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13729Re: recovering from accident, seeking advice

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  • Rich W
    Oct 15, 2011
      The Kona Ute has a considerably shorter wheelbase than the Big Dummy or a Xtracycle conversion bike. This will likely decrease loaded stability in my experience. However the OPs motor and battery could decrease the BD stability too depending on location and weight.

      As much as possible keep the weight ahead of the rear wheel axle for best stability.

      Rich Wood

      --- In rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com, "Matthew Brealey" <thelawnet@...> wrote:
      > I weigh about 40% more than you, but I have my daughters bike seat right at
      > the back of my Kona Ute, behind the rear wheel. It will topple over
      > backwards if I'm not holding it down, but when I'm on it I don't find
      > there's a problem, although there's really no substitute for caution and
      > experience - once you know that your rear wheel can swing out under you, you
      > take more care on corners, etc.
      > I wouldn't worry about the kids though, my experience is that low down
      > (pannier) weights of say 130 pounds severely destabilise the bike whereas
      > I've had wife + 2 kids on the back (250 pounds), and while the handling is
      > not great, it's a lot better than the much lower pannier weight.
      > I don't think the weights in the pannier are really representative, not sure
      > what those batteries are doing for the stability though.
      > From: rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com [mailto:rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com]
      > On Behalf Of nancyh434
      > Sent: 13 October 2011 17:46
      > To: rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [rootsradicals] recovering from accident, seeking advice
      > Hello everyone,
      > My name is Nancy, and I live in central Virginia. I got my Big Dummy about a
      > month ago (with a Bionx assist on it -- I live in a hilly town and want to
      > transport my kids on the bike). I've been training by riding around town
      > with 80 lbs in the panniers. Almost two weeks ago, I was practicing on a
      > pair of hills near my kids' school -- a steep down followed by a steep up,
      > went too fast, and the front wheel just lifted off the ground (the battery
      > adds another 25 lbs, with all of the weight in the back). I was lucky in
      > many ways and am recovering okay.
      > But... I'm concerned that I may not be strong enough to handle the bike
      > safely with my kids on it (collectively 85 lbs). The electric can help me
      > get them up hills, but starting on a hill (as is often necessary where I
      > live) is not easy with weight on the bike. I am 5'4" and 140 lbs, in fairly
      > good shape (run, bike, swim, lift weights), but I'm worried that I'm simply
      > not heavy/strong enough to keep the bike balanced with kids on the rack in a
      > variety of situations. (I did order some wide loaders to slow things down,
      > in the event of a fall; and obviously I won't by going so fast again.)
      > I would love to hear from women or small men who ride with 2 kids on the
      > back. My current plan is one big stoker bar they both hold onto with them
      > sitting close to each other, a crazy creek seat under both/behind the second
      > child (they're both 4.5 y.o.). How did you go about learning to ride safely
      > with your kids on there?
      > Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
      > happy riding,
      > Nancy
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