10138Re: [rootsradicals] Lighting: in praise of the Down Low Glow!
- Nov 9 7:51 PMTone,Thanks for the story, I too had a minor issue with my Green DLG. Called Rock the Bike and he took care of me. No BS just straight talk and deeds. I am a loyal customer now. I have two batteries and on a heavy week 3-4 days commuting 30 miles each way. I need to get the fast smart re-charger 4hrs or less. Because it is dark going in and coming home now in california. Some day light savings? W/o my DLG in the mostly city traffic I am in I would be in a very unsafe commute. But with the DLG I am in a protective glow! That's how I think of it anyway. Oh yes I am hyper vigilant and do not trust drivers at all regardless of lighting. The combination is just awesome!CarlOn Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:27 AM, Tone <tone@...> wrote:
I have a blue dual-tube Down Low Glow (DLG) on my Big Dummy as well. I
have had the DLG for a number of years, even back when I was still
working as a messenger in NYC with my Xtracycle. Though I must admit I
disconnected it from my bike not long after installing it due to paranoia
from both theft and wet weather. I of course took water-proofing
precautions, but when your DLG is out in the rain over eight hours in any
given day you have to worry a little about whether the vinyl cloak you
made for it is enough.
Fortunately for me it was, but I still removed the DLG from my bike for
my daily working routine and reserved the DLG for special occasions.
Eventually I stopped messengering and moved to York, PA where I
encountered the same issues of commuting to work in the early morning
darkness as you did. That is when I reinstalled my DLG as a permanent
fixture on my bike, but set up better than it ever was before.
I ordered a plastic water bottle cage storage capsule/container from
Nashbar for about $3-4, cut a small rectangle out of the bottom, which
was just big enough to slide in the controller box for the DLG system,
then I adhered another strip of Velcro on the inside of the capsule to
keep the controller box from rattling around inside. At that point all I
have to do is pop open the container lid, insert the DLG battery into the
bottle-capsule along side the controller and connect the two via their
plugs. When I want to turn the system on or off all I have to do is open
the bottle-capsule and flip the DLG power switch. When I want to recharge
the battery I once again open the capsule, unplug the battery and go.
There is no more need to repeatedly disengage the various Velcro straps
and no worries about hitting a bump hard enough, which might rattle the
Velcro straps loose, especially after they wear out over time from being
open and closed so much.
Obviously having the guts of the DLG system all inside one enclosure
keeps it fairly protected from the weather as well as a little more
out-of-sight-out-of-mind from potential thieves of opportunity. I believe
Rock the Bike has actually made some improvements with additional
water-proofing features to their DLG since the version I first bought.
Therefore there should not be as many worries about exposing the system
to rain, but regardless the capsule just makes disconnecting the battery
way easier, makes the system look even slicker, and provides just a
little bit more stow-away capacity for that extra patch kit, energy bar,
1) Photo of lit up DLG on my Big Dummy while locked up on my porch with
2) Photo of primarily DLG system set up:
3) Photo of close up of capsule with open lid and interior:
4) Photo of close up of bottom of capsule with cut out hole:
One note I should point out to anyone else thinking about rigging up a
DLG set up like mine is to make sure you first insert both the controller
AND battery into the capsule to determine interior fit/sizing issues
BEFORE sticking the strip of Velcro onto an interior wall of the capsule.
I realize the description of my set up did not answer your direct
questions, but I thought you and others might appreciate it. Now to
actually get to your inquiries…
I am no battery expert either. In fact I admittedly get mixed up about
all the different rechargeable battery types, the way they perform, and
the best way to maintain them that way. My approach is basically to
disconnect and recharge the DLG battery over night after a ride when I
have noticed it fading down enough. In the past my commute was roughly
20-30 minutes one-way, and I only had to use the DLG in the dark early
mornings. That meant I could charge the DLG on Sunday night and get
enough charge for an entire work-week. Usually by Wednesday or Thursday I
would notice some fade, so I would just take it in then for recharge.
Recharging it over Thursday night would also mean it would be pretty well
charged for any extended-run Friday or Saturday night excursions.
I can not say I have really noticed the cold having any extremely harsh
effect on the DLG, and I definitely ride in sub-zero temperatures as well
as keep my bike locked out on the porch. I generally keep my ride as
maintenance free as possible, so I tend to allow myself to forget about
doing any kind of maintenance on a regular basis unless it is
specifically a daily routine. Therefore the DLG battery is usually just
sitting in the capsule day in and day out, even if it is not used during
those day-light seasonal periods. When it is not being regularly used
during those winter months, which do provide enough light, I do try to
remember to simply keep the battery inside or at least carry the
relatively charged up battery in my bag, which comes inside with me
wherever I go.
About a year ago my DLG stopped working. At that point I had not used it
for a long time because one of those seasonally-lit periods had passed. I
figured I must have allowed the battery enough time to fade out
completely. I contacted Rock the Bike and ended up mailing it all to then
with the understanding that it might cost me something like $14 for labor
and return delivery on-top of the possible battery replacement, which I
forgot the additional price of. I did not mind the price because I had
owned the DLG for over three years by then and really enjoyed/appreciated
When they got it and looked it over, they e-mailed me to tell me my
battery still had something like 70% of its original charge capacity,
which they thought was extremely good considering how long I had owned it
for. They also located the actual problem with the wiring connection
inside the controller box and recommended I just stick with my original
battery. I agreed because I did not see why I should waste a decent
battery (or shell out so much additional money for no real benefit).
After maybe another week had gone by I received a package from Rock the
Bike with my repaired DLG system. From its appearance it looks like Rock
the Bike also reinforced the seams and wire entry point of the controller
box with epoxy or sealant.
I was actually surprised when I got back the working DLG system because I
thought I was waiting to hear back from Rock the Bike about the status of
my repair being complete, exactly how much the repair would cost, and
what way I should pay for it. Instead, all I ended up paying for was the
one-way shipping of the DLG to them. I presume once they actually got
inside and saw the problem they figured the repair was covered in their
warrantee or something.
I hope this helps answer some of your questions.
“A plant, which is a living and breathing entity, has the ability to understand and work in synchrony with the body’s internal needs, in harmony with the vital force within us, to heal and give life”
-Donald R. Yance
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