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Where can I learn Vulgar Latin?

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  • thomasruhm
    I am looking for a book or a web site or people who teach me Vulgar Latin. I got some experiances with normal Latin and medieval Latin. I reconstructed a big
    Message 1 of 34 , May 24, 2009
      I am looking for a book or a web site or people who teach me Vulgar Latin. I got some experiances with normal Latin and medieval Latin. I reconstructed a big deal of Raetic Latin pronunciation what was fun. I would like to create a Raetic Vulgar Latin dialect by using that pronunciation on standart Vulgar Latin.

      Thank you
    • Pituxalina
      ... If you are talking about the Langobardic germanic language that left it s many traces in Italian, here is a Langobardic translation of the Hildebrandslied.
      Message 34 of 34 , Mar 22, 2010
        --- In romconlang@yahoogroups.com, "thomasruhm" <thomas@...> wrote:
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        > You learn Old German too? I understand quite a bit of it. Where do you have that Langobardic text? I read many texts in Langobardic Latin. I wonder if I will recognize typical Langobardic word forms. I wanted to read a whole Langobardic text for many years.
        >
        > I will try to write my version of the Rhaeto Romance text I sent you. But don't see that as a correction. I am not such a professional.

        If you are talking about the Langobardic germanic language that left it's many traces in Italian, here is a Langobardic translation of the Hildebrandslied. I and many others worked on it in the Theudiskon forum. Some author made his own reconstruction of the Hildebrandslied in Langobardic, but I never could find it; that is why I started the independent translation

        It appears that the Langobardic language was the most conservative of the High German Continuum. Langobardic was a West-German language
        and not East-Germanic despite the many apparent similarities with Gothic.

        Pituxalina Airl*

        *Earl/Jarl in Langobardic.

        Hiltiprandes léot

        Ih kihaurta thaz sakkan
        thaz sih orhaizzun ainun môztîn
        Hiltiprand anti Haðuprand untar harium zwaim.
        sunufatarunca iro saro rihtun.
        karutun sie iro kunt-hamun, kurtun sih iro swairt ana,
        halita, upar hrincas, thô sie zô thara hiltiu ritun,
        Hiltiprand kimahalta Hariprantes sunu; er was hairôro man,
        ferahes frôtôro; er frakkan kistônt
        fauhêm wortum, hwer sîn fatar wâri
        firahia in folche,..."aiththau hwelîhhes knôsles thû sîs
        ipu thû mir ainan sakês, ih mir thaz antara waiz,
        chint in cunincrîhhie: chunt ist mir all airmintheot."
        Haðuprant kimahalta, Hiltiprantes sunu:
        15 "thaz sakkêtun mi unsêre liuti,
        alte anti fraute, thêa airhina wârûn,
        thaz Hiltiprand haizzi min fatar: ih haizzu Haðuprand.
        forn her austar kiwait, floh her Autachres nit,
        hina miti Theotarihha anti sinero thekano filu.
        20 her furlaz in lante luzzila sizzan
        prut in pure, parn unwahsan,
        arpaio lausa: her rat austar hina.
        thes sitta Theotarihha tarpa kistôntun
        fatares mines: thaz was sô friontlaus man.
        25 her was Autachre ummat tirri,
        thekano thaihhisto miti Theotarihha.
        her was aio folches at ante: imo was aio faihta zi leopf:
        chunt was her..... hhonnem mannum.
        ni waniu ih iu lip happe".....
        30 "waittu airmingôt [quad Hiltiprant] opana af hepane,
        thaz thû neo thana halt mith sus sippan man
        thinc ni kilaitôs".....
        want her thô ar arme wuntane pauca,
        chaisurincum kitan, sô imo se thar cuninc gapf,
        Hunaio trohtin: "thaz ih thir it nu pi hulti kipu".
        Haðuprant kimahalta, Hiltiprantes sunu:
        "mith gairu scal man kipa infahhan,
        aurt withar aurte. ...............
        thû pist thir altar Hun, ummat spahhar,
        40 spfenis mih mith thînem wortum, wili mih thînu spairu wairpfan.
        pist also kialtet man, so thû aiwin inwit fortôs.
        thaz sakêtun mi saiolitante
        wêstar upar waintilsaio, thaz inan wihh furnam:
        tot ist Hiltiprant, Hariprantes sunu".
        45 Hiltiprant kimahalta, Hariprantes sunu:
        "waila kisihu ih in thînem hrustim,
        thaz thû hapes haime hairron gôtan,
        thaz thû noh pi taisaimo rîhhe rîhhia ni wurti".
        "wailaka nu, waltant Gott [quad Hiltiprant], waiwurt skihit.
        50 ih wallota sumaro anti wintro saihstih ur lante,
        thar man mih aio scairita in folch scaiotantairo:
        so man mir at purc ainikairu panun ni kifasta,
        nu scal mih suasat chint suairtu hauwan,
        praiton mith sinu pilliu, aiththau ih imo zi panin wairtan.
        55 thôh mahht thû nu autlîhho, ipu thir thîn aillan taoh,
        in sus hairêmo man hrusti kiwinnan,
        raupa pirahanen, ipu thû thar ainih rehht hapes".
        "thar si thoh nu arcausto [quad Hiltiprant] austarliuto,
        thar thir nu wikes warne, nu thih ais so waila lustit,
        60 gutea kimainun: niuse de môzti,
        hwairtar sih hiutu thairo hraikilo ruman môzti,
        aiththau thesêro prunnono paitêro waltan".
        thô lettun se airist aschim scritan,
        scarpfen scurim: thaz in them schiltim stônt.
        65 tho stopftun zo samane staim port hhlutun,
        heuwun harmlîhho hwizze scilti,
        unzi imo iro lintun luzzilo wurtun,
        kiwikan miti wapfnum ...............
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