Re: [romconlang] estar vs. ser
- --- Mark J. Reed skrzypszy:
> In French, the descendant of stare seems to have disappearedNot entirely. The verb "être" incorporates several forms of STARE as
> entirely, and some of its semantic space is indeed now occupied by
> the descendant of essere, [...]
well: the imperfect tense "j'étais, tu étais ..." and the perfect
participle "été" (from STATUS).
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- Padraic Brown skrev:
> --- Julía <descubralia@...> wrote:Actually both _fieri_ and _fuit_ come from the
>>hmm, where does "fieri" come from?
> It's Latin. Fieri: become, be made.
>>It reminds me of the preterit in
>>Spanish of ser (and ir) [fui, fuiste, fue,
>>fuimos, fuisteis(?), fueron] are they related?
> Fu- is the regular perfect stem of Latin esse. I
> gather from Sihler that they aren't related, but
> he does admit that the etymology of fieri isn't
> so well known.
Indo-European root *bheu-, or rather from
its zero grade *bhu: (< *bhuH) "to be,
to become". _Fieri_ is a causative *bhu:-yo-
so it is not strange that they have similar
forms and meanings.
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