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RE: [rocketry-austin] Re: L1 Certification and LEUP

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  • Stu Barrett
    Good advise. Dave, keep us in the loop on your progress. Good luck! Stu ... From: rocketry-austin@yahoogroups.com [mailto:rocketry-austin@yahoogroups.com] On
    Message 1 of 37 , Aug 15, 2006
      Good advise.

      Dave, keep us in the loop on your progress. Good luck!

      Stu

      -----Original Message-----
      From: rocketry-austin@yahoogroups.com
      [mailto:rocketry-austin@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Mericas
      Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 1:48 PM
      To: rocketry-austin@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [rocketry-austin] Re: L1 Certification and LEUP

      For day trips you do not need a magazine to transport the motors. Only for
      storage.

      If you go with an attached garage variance you will need a separate magazine
      for igniters. If the ATF deems your garage secure, an Army ammo box can be
      converted to a Type-4 indoor magazine with a little work. I went with two
      locks, although one would be enough. I lined mine with 1/8" pressboard. If
      this is ever challenged I can swap out the wood for aluminum and I have a
      Type-2 detonator box.

      Hybrids do have a learning curve. But, for me, the learning was fun. I
      was already experienced with electronics so that was pretty easy. The GSE
      is the hardest part. The DARS folks are making an effort to support hybrids
      at their launches and I bring my GSE to most AARG launches I attend. My
      system is good enough for my use but would have to be upgraded (at least
      with bigger tanks) for club use.

      If you have the ability to pass the storage requirements for a LEUP, get
      one. Even though I fly hybrids a lot, knowing I can fly anything I want
      any time without relying on someone else's magazine is very liberating.

      Get your L1. Get some experience with electronics. If/when you're still
      interested come talk to me about hybrids.

      Dave Hein wrote:
      > Thanks for all the responses on LEUP. For me, it seems like the way
      > to go is to purchase a type 4 storage magazine and store the motors
      > myself. I also launch at McGregor and Meek Ranch, so it would be
      > inconvenient to rely on someone else to store and transport my motors.
      > Would I also need a type 3 magazine for transportation to launches,
      > or is the type 4 magazine OK for this as well? I am assuming (hoping)
      > that the type 4 magazine can be used for both purposes.
      >
      > I have already purchased an Aerotech G-Force that I will use for my L1
      > attempt. This costs about $100 from HobbyLinc. I expect that an H
      > motor will cost around $30. The LEUP and storage magazine will add a
      > significant upfront cost to my L1 attempt, but the cost is easier to
      > accept if I look at it as a long term investment.
      >
      > The LEUP will cost $100, and a Type 4 Storage Magazine from Magnum
      > Rockets is about $225 with shipping. Does anybody know of a cheaper
      > storage magazine?
      >
      > BTW, I am also interested in hybrids, but it seems like there is a
      > learning curve involved with it. For one thing, hybrids require an
      > electronic recovery system. Electronic recovery and hybrids are on my
      > list of thing to do, but it doesn't sound like the best approach for
      > an L1 attempt.

      --
      Alex Mericas




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    • Stu Barrett
      That type of question is what keeps lawyers in business. Stu _____ From: rocketry-austin@yahoogroups.com [mailto:rocketry-austin@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
      Message 37 of 37 , Aug 20, 2006
        That type of question is what keeps lawyers in business.
         
        Stu


        From: rocketry-austin@yahoogroups.com [mailto:rocketry-austin@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim McGaughy
        Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 4:50 AM
        To: rocketry-austin@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [rocketry-austin] Re: L1 Certification and LEUP


        On Aug 17, 2006, at 9:17 PM, Stu Barrett wrote:

        > I believe that anyone can be included on your LEUP's Responsible
        > Persons list.  As long as they are "legal' (i.e. not a felon, etc).

        Does that have any legal ramifications for those people?

        If something goes wrong, are Responsible Persons, umm..., held
        responsible?

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