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  • Joseph Bohan
    I agree with Alan about the quick a/b testing. We saw how difficult that was at the cable shootout. The professional reviewers for the major audio publications
    Message 1 of 24 , May 1, 2012
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      I agree with Alan about the quick a/b testing. We saw how difficult that was at the cable shootout. The professional reviewers for the major audio publications take in a product and live with it awhile to get the full gestalt of what it sounds like.                                                                                                                                                           I also have a nice pair of set amps and modified Klipsch RF-5's , but no car. I would be willing to bring them with help. Also the gold speaker cables as I use them to greater advantage than was heard at the shootout.

      From: Alan Hendler <alanhendler@...>
      To: rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 3:54 PM
      Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Website & Meeting Schedule

       
      Don,
      That would be good
      Actually I have a couple of low powered set tube amps
      The Klipsch speakers I have are side speakers in a surround
      sound system so I will have to try them with my set amp.
      Actually I have not used the Klipsch with any of the amps I have mentioned
      but mentioned bringing the klipsch because I certainly can't bring My Maggies
      I am somewhat against quick ab blind tests and would rather play several selections with each amp so that members can get a feel
      for the basic sound of these different topologies. We are not trying to say which is better but
      what do they sound like in the context of a particular system
      Alan

      From: david weil <dpgdave@...>
      To: rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Mon, April 30, 2012 3:30:47 PM
      Subject: RE: [rivercityaudiosociety] Website & Meeting Schedule

       
      Alan and Don, both ideas sound great. I missed cables meeting, but I saw pictures of the rig Luther built to hide the various components from view and it would be great if we can use that setup in these future meetings to blindly compare the components.
      Alan, I know the KSB3.1 speakers are quite efficient, perfect for little SET tube amps which should sound wonderful. It maybe a little harder to come up with smaller solid state amps but I have a 10 wpc solid state amp that I can bring along. Don, for the powered monitor meeting, I could bring a set of Dynaudio bm5a active monitors. I could do a meeting on digital computer/laptop based front end setup.
      Best,
      David W


      To: rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com
      CC: godzilla56@...
      From: ddisbennett@...
      Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:14:11 +0000
      Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Website & Meeting Schedule

       
      Bob:

      I would be willing to do a future meeting at Bjorn's on Powered Speakers. I have two such sets myself, one inexpensive and one modestly priced set, but I would like to have several other sets from other members if they are willing to bring them.
      Let me know and I will start working on it!

      Don
      ---- Robert Guerin <godzilla56@...> wrote:
      > Don has nailed it here. John and I changed to this format last year inasmuch as
      > it was a lot of work for the two of of us every month. However, if members would
      > identify topics, put together equipment and such there is no reason why we cant
      > go to more general meetings. . Bjorns will allow us there once a month if I ask
      > in advance. However, in the past when John & I have asked for topics
      we have
      > very little or no input. So, if the members want more meetings I think that is
      > great, but people need to step up for it to happen. Lets pick some months,
      > identify who will moderate the meeting, coordinate the equipment and so on. John
      > and I will be happy to continue the quarterly format as we are doing now and the
      > mini meetings. So, lets hear from others on this subject...what do you want?
      > As far as a separate website, that is more in Luthers domain. He set this up
      > for us and it seems to be working very well. If it costs money then that raises
      > another issue regarding club dues and such. John is already winded chasing
      > certain people to pay dues. I think I can speak for him when we say we dont need
      > to go out of pocket any more for expenses.
      > Anyway, these are good ideas and I like to hear members want more not less. It
      > is our club and should
      serve all of our needs. Lets here from others on these
      > subjects.
      > Bob
      >
      >
      >
      > ________________________________
      > From: "ddisbennett@..." <ddisbennett@...>
      > To: rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com
      > Cc: Alan Hendler <alanhendler@...>
      > Sent: Mon, April 30, 2012 11:42:47 AM
      > Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Website
      >
      >
      > I agree with Alan on both
      counts: I am not opposed at all to our having our own
      > website if it can be done well and at a reasonable and sustainable cost, but I
      > believe the full meetings are very important to retaining our members interest
      > in the club. We can usually only accommodate 4 or 5 members at a mini-meeting
      > and we have 20 or more members at the full meetings. As Alan stated, they are a
      > lot of work(ask Bob and John about that!), but I believe there are plenty of
      > members who would be more than willing to help with meetings as Luther and I and
      > others have done in the past. Perhaps we need to get a list of topics for
      > future meetings and then have members sign up to take charge of those meetings
      > or help out in various ways to put that meeting on.
      >
      > As for Facebook, I am just not interested in it and have no desire to
      > participate in that media. I was on Facebook briefly and
      cancelled my
      > enrollment afterwards; not my thing, but I can see the appeal for younger
      > members perhaps.
      >
      > Don
      > ---- Alan Hendler <alanhendler@...> wrote:
      > > Hey guys,
      > > Regarding the question of should we have our own web site, I would rather see
      > >us
      > >
      > > make a greater effort to have
      > > more full meetings for the general membership then we are now having. The mini
      >
      > > meetings are nice but a lot of our members
      > > are not attending these and will eventually drop out, It is the full meetings
      > > that will sustain our club. Trust me
      > > I speak from experience. I know that the full meetings are a lot of work but we
      > >
      > > have plenty of people
      > > here
      willing to help out.
      > > Also I do not want any involvement with Facebook
      > > Alan
      >
      >
      >




    • Joseph Bohan
      My thought is we should keep our audio society as low cost as possible,both to aid in attracting more members and to help introduce high end audio to younger
      Message 2 of 24 , May 1, 2012
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        My thought is we should keep our audio society as low cost as possible,both to aid in attracting more members and to help introduce high end audio to younger people who are new to this hobby/obsession. As home theater blossomed, it seems to have left quality audio in it's wake, although home theater audio is getting better as customers learn the value of better sound.  

        From: Robert Guerin <godzilla56@...>
        To: rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 1:02 PM
        Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Website & Meeting Schedule

         
        Don has nailed it here. John and I changed to this format last year inasmuch as it was a lot of work for the two of of us every month. However, if members would identify topics, put together equipment and such there is no reason why we cant go to more general meetings. . Bjorns will allow us there once a month if I ask in advance. However, in the past when John & I have asked for topics we have very little or no input. So, if the members want more meetings I think that is great, but people need to step up for it to happen. Lets pick some months, identify who will moderate the meeting, coordinate the equipment and so on. John and I will be happy to continue the quarterly format as we are doing now and the mini meetings.  So, lets hear from others on this subject...what do you want?  As far as a separate website, that is more in Luthers domain. He set this up for us and it seems to be working very well. If it costs money then that raises another issue regarding club dues and such. John is already winded chasing certain people to pay dues. I think I can speak for him when we say we dont need to go out of pocket any more for expenses.
        Anyway, these are good ideas and I like to hear members want more not less. It is our club and should serve all of our needs.   Lets here from others on these subjects.
        Bob

        From: "ddisbennett@..." <ddisbennett@...>
        To: rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com
        Cc: Alan Hendler <alanhendler@...>
        Sent: Mon, April 30, 2012 11:42:47 AM
        Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Website

         
        I agree with Alan on both counts: I am not opposed at all to our having our own website if it can be done well and at a reasonable and sustainable cost, but I believe the full meetings are very important to retaining our members interest in the club. We can usually only accommodate 4 or 5 members at a mini-meeting and we have 20 or more members at the full meetings. As Alan stated, they are a lot of work(ask Bob and John about that!), but I believe there are plenty of members who would be more than willing to help with meetings as Luther and I and others have done in the past. Perhaps we need to get a list of topics for future meetings and then have members sign up to take charge of those meetings or help out in various ways to put that meeting on.
        As for Facebook, I am just not interested in it and have no desire to participate in that media. I was on Facebook briefly and cancelled my enrollment afterwards; not my thing, but I can see the appeal for younger members perhaps.

        Don
        ---- Alan Hendler <alanhendler@...> wrote:
        > Hey guys,
        > Regarding the question of should we have our own web site, I would rather see us
        > make a greater effort to have
        > more full meetings for the general membership then we are now having. The mini
        > meetings are nice but a lot of our members
        > are not attending these and will eventually drop out, It is the full meetings
        > that will sustain our club. Trust me
        > I speak from experience. I know that the full meetings are a lot of work but we
        > have plenty of people
        > here willing to help out.
        > Also I do not want any involvement with Facebook
        > Alan



      • Erick Matta
        david, a meeting on digital computer/laptop based front end setups would be very welcomed by me personally. i recently did a 24/96 recording of a gig i played
        Message 3 of 24 , May 1, 2012
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          david, 
          a meeting on digital computer/laptop based front end setups would be very welcomed by me personally. i recently did a 24/96 recording of a gig i played on with orch/choir/organ at zion lutheran. this could also be another potential meeting topic at some point in the near future, as i know john is intereted.
          those dynaudio's would be great for on location recording sessions! would love to hear them!
          erick


          On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:30 PM, david weil wrote:

           

          Alan and Don, both ideas sound great. I missed cables meeting, but I saw pictures of the rig Luther built to hide the various components from view and it would be great if we can use that setup in these future meetings to blindly compare the components.
          Alan, I know the KSB3.1 speakers are quite efficient, perfect for little SET tube amps which should sound wonderful. It maybe a little harder to come up with smaller solid state amps but I have a 10 wpc solid state amp that I can bring along. Don, for the powered monitor meeting, I could bring a set of Dynaudio bm5a active monitors. I could do a meeting on digital computer/laptop based front end setup.
          Best,
          David W



          To: rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com
          CC: godzilla56@...
          From: ddisbennett@...
          Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:14:11 +0000
          Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Website & Meeting Schedule

           
          Bob:

          I would be willing to do a future meeting at Bjorn's on Powered Speakers. I have two such sets myself, one inexpensive and one modestly priced set, but I would like to have several other sets from other members if they are willing to bring them.
          Let me know and I will start working on it!

          Don
          ---- Robert Guerin <godzilla56@...> wrote:
          > Don has nailed it here. John and I changed to this format last year inasmuch as
          > it was a lot of work for the two of of us every month. However, if members would
          > identify topics, put together equipment and such there is no reason why we cant
          > go to more general meetings. . Bjorns will allow us there once a month if I ask
          > in advance. However, in the past when John & I have asked for topics we have
          > very little or no input. So, if the members want more meetings I think that is
          > great, but people need to step up for it to happen. Lets pick some months,
          > identify who will moderate the meeting, coordinate the equipment and so on. John
          > and I will be happy to continue the quarterly format as we are doing now and the
          > mini meetings. So, lets hear from others on this subject...what do you want?
          > As far as a separate website, that is more in Luthers domain. He set this up
          > for us and it seems to be working very well. If it costs money then that raises
          > another issue regarding club dues and such. John is already winded chasing
          > certain people to pay dues. I think I can speak for him when we say we dont need
          > to go out of pocket any more for expenses.
          > Anyway, these are good ideas and I like to hear members want more not less. It
          > is our club and should serve all of our needs. Lets here from others on these
          > subjects.
          > Bob
          >
          >
          >
          > ________________________________
          > From: "ddisbennett@..." <ddisbennett@...>
          > To: rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com
          > Cc: Alan Hendler <alanhendler@...>
          > Sent: Mon, April 30, 2012 11:42:47 AM
          > Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Website
          >
          >
          > I agree with Alan on both counts: I am not opposed at all to our having our own
          > website if it can be done well and at a reasonable and sustainable cost, but I
          > believe the full meetings are very important to retaining our members interest
          > in the club. We can usually only accommodate 4 or 5 members at a mini-meeting
          > and we have 20 or more members at the full meetings. As Alan stated, they are a
          > lot of work(ask Bob and John about that!), but I believe there are plenty of
          > members who would be more than willing to help with meetings as Luther and I and
          > others have done in the past. Perhaps we need to get a list of topics for
          > future meetings and then have members sign up to take charge of those meetings
          > or help out in various ways to put that meeting on.
          >
          > As for Facebook, I am just not interested in it and have no desire to
          > participate in that media. I was on Facebook briefly and cancelled my
          > enrollment afterwards; not my thing, but I can see the appeal for younger
          > members perhaps.
          >
          > Don
          > ---- Alan Hendler <alanhendler@...> wrote:
          > > Hey guys,
          > > Regarding the question of should we have our own web site, I would rather see
          > >us
          > >
          > > make a greater effort to have
          > > more full meetings for the general membership then we are now having. The mini
          >
          > > meetings are nice but a lot of our members
          > > are not attending these and will eventually drop out, It is the full meetings
          > > that will sustain our club. Trust me
          > > I speak from experience. I know that the full meetings are a lot of work but we
          > >
          > > have plenty of people
          > > here willing to help out.
          > > Also I do not want any involvement with Facebook
          > > Alan
          >
          >
          >




        • david weil
          Joe, I find the A/B testing conversation interesting. I hear the differences between gear better when hearing them blind because I can concentrate on the sound
          Message 4 of 24 , May 1, 2012
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            Joe,
            I find the A/B testing conversation interesting. I hear the differences between gear better when hearing them blind because I can concentrate on the sound I'm hearing and not all of the other information-->the designs of the gear and the way it "should" sound.  Sometimes I'll close my eyes and it seems my brain can absorb more music info, as if it's over compensating for loss of the visual sense with a boost to the audible sense.
            The group's long time audiophiles are probably better equipped in the critical listening department. Take Alan, a veteran in the recording industry who knows correct sound - pitch, tone etc... We have orchestral musicians as well--they know pitch and tone. I'm trying to get a better grasp for these characteristics of sound and I find this group very valuable in that department.
            Maybe we can have a group meeting to demonstrate tone of real instruments for a better idea of the differences between our own systems and the real deal?
            Best,
            David
             


            To: rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com
            From: bohan.joseph@...
            Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 05:33:16 -0700
            Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Website & Meeting Schedule

             

            I agree with Alan about the quick a/b testing. We saw how difficult that was at the cable shootout. The professional reviewers for the major audio publications take in a product and live with it awhile to get the full gestalt of what it sounds like.                                                                                                                                                           I also have a nice pair of set amps and modified Klipsch RF-5's , but no car. I would be willing to bring them with help. Also the gold speaker cables as I use them to greater advantage than was heard at the shootout.

            From: Alan Hendler <alanhendler@...>
            To: rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 3:54 PM
            Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Website & Meeting Schedule

             
            Don,
            That would be good
            Actually I have a couple of low powered set tube amps
            The Klipsch speakers I have are side speakers in a surround
            sound system so I will have to try them with my set amp.
            Actually I have not used the Klipsch with any of the amps I have mentioned
            but mentioned bringing the klipsch because I certainly can't bring My Maggies
            I am somewhat against quick ab blind tests and would rather play several selections with each amp so that members can get a feel
            for the basic sound of these different topologies. We are not trying to say which is better but
            what do they sound like in the context of a particular system
            Alan

            From: david weil <dpgdave@...>
            To: rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Mon, April 30, 2012 3:30:47 PM
            Subject: RE: [rivercityaudiosociety] Website & Meeting Schedule

             
            Alan and Don, both ideas sound great. I missed cables meeting, but I saw pictures of the rig Luther built to hide the various components from view and it would be great if we can use that setup in these future meetings to blindly compare the components.
            Alan, I know the KSB3.1 speakers are quite efficient, perfect for little SET tube amps which should sound wonderful. It maybe a little harder to come up with smaller solid state amps but I have a 10 wpc solid state amp that I can bring along. Don, for the powered monitor meeting, I could bring a set of Dynaudio bm5a active monitors. I could do a meeting on digital computer/laptop based front end setup.
            Best,
            David W


            To: rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com
            CC: godzilla56@...
            From: ddisbennett@...
            Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:14:11 +0000
            Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Website & Meeting Schedule

             
            Bob:

            I would be willing to do a future meeting at Bjorn's on Powered Speakers. I have two such sets myself, one inexpensive and one modestly priced set, but I would like to have several other sets from other members if they are willing to bring them.
            Let me know and I will start working on it!

            Don
            ---- Robert Guerin <godzilla56@...> wrote:
            > Don has nailed it here. John and I changed to this format last year inasmuch as
            > it was a lot of work for the two of of us every month. However, if members would
            > identify topics, put together equipment and such there is no reason why we cant
            > go to more general meetings. . Bjorns will allow us there once a month if I ask
            > in advance. However, in the past when John & I have asked for topics
            we have
            > very little or no input. So, if the members want more meetings I think that is
            > great, but people need to step up for it to happen. Lets pick some months,
            > identify who will moderate the meeting, coordinate the equipment and so on. John
            > and I will be happy to continue the quarterly format as we are doing now and the
            > mini meetings. So, lets hear from others on this subject...what do you want?
            > As far as a separate website, that is more in Luthers domain. He set this up
            > for us and it seems to be working very well. If it costs money then that raises
            > another issue regarding club dues and such. John is already winded chasing
            > certain people to pay dues. I think I can speak for him when we say we dont need
            > to go out of pocket any more for expenses.
            > Anyway, these are good ideas and I like to hear members want more not less. It
            > is our club and should
            serve all of our needs. Lets here from others on these
            > subjects.
            > Bob
            >
            >
            >
            > ________________________________
            > From: "ddisbennett@..." <ddisbennett@...>
            > To: rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com
            > Cc: Alan Hendler <alanhendler@...>
            > Sent: Mon, April 30, 2012 11:42:47 AM
            > Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Website
            >
            >
            > I agree with Alan on both
            counts: I am not opposed at all to our having our own
            > website if it can be done well and at a reasonable and sustainable cost, but I
            > believe the full meetings are very important to retaining our members interest
            > in the club. We can usually only accommodate 4 or 5 members at a mini-meeting
            > and we have 20 or more members at the full meetings. As Alan stated, they are a
            > lot of work(ask Bob and John about that!), but I believe there are plenty of
            > members who would be more than willing to help with meetings as Luther and I and
            > others have done in the past. Perhaps we need to get a list of topics for
            > future meetings and then have members sign up to take charge of those meetings
            > or help out in various ways to put that meeting on.
            >
            > As for Facebook, I am just not interested in it and have no desire to
            > participate in that media. I was on Facebook briefly and
            cancelled my
            > enrollment afterwards; not my thing, but I can see the appeal for younger
            > members perhaps.
            >
            > Don
            > ---- Alan Hendler <alanhendler@...> wrote:
            > > Hey guys,
            > > Regarding the question of should we have our own web site, I would rather see
            > >us
            > >
            > > make a greater effort to have
            > > more full meetings for the general membership then we are now having. The mini
            >
            > > meetings are nice but a lot of our members
            > > are not attending these and will eventually drop out, It is the full meetings
            > > that will sustain our club. Trust me
            > > I speak from experience. I know that the full meetings are a lot of work but we
            > >
            > > have plenty of people
            > > here
            willing to help out.
            > > Also I do not want any involvement with Facebook
            > > Alan
            >
            >
            >





          • vintagehifisteve
            David, good post. I agree. A meeting on how to understand correct tonal differences and pitch would be awesome. As well as listening to a recording of a
            Message 5 of 24 , May 1, 2012
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              David, good post. I agree. A meeting on how to understand correct tonal differences and pitch would be awesome. As well as listening to a recording of a solo instrument and then a/b with one of the guys here that plays the said instrument. I think this is worth pursuing.

              -Steven

              --- In rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com, david weil <dpgdave@...> wrote:
              >
              >
              > Joe,
              > I find the A/B testing conversation interesting. I hear the differences between gear better when hearing them blind because I can concentrate on the sound I'm hearing and not all of the other information-->the designs of the gear and the way it "should" sound. Sometimes I'll close my eyes and it seems my brain can absorb more music info, as if it's over compensating for loss of the visual sense with a boost to the audible sense.
              > The group's long time audiophiles are probably better equipped in the critical listening department. Take Alan, a veteran in the recording industry who knows correct sound - pitch, tone etc... We have orchestral musicians as well--they know pitch and tone. I'm trying to get a better grasp for these characteristics of sound and I find this group very valuable in that department.
              > Maybe we can have a group meeting to demonstrate tone of real instruments for a better idea of the differences between our own systems and the real deal?
              > Best,
              > David
              >
              >
              > To: rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com
              > From: bohan.joseph@...
              > Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 05:33:16 -0700
              > Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Website & Meeting Schedule
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > I agree with Alan about the quick a/b testing. We saw how difficult that was at the cable shootout. The professional reviewers for the major audio publications take in a product and live with it awhile to get the full gestalt of what it sounds
              > like. I also have a nice pair of set amps
              > and modified Klipsch RF-5's , but no car. I would be willing to bring them with help. Also the gold speaker cables as I use them to greater advantage than was heard at the shootout.
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > From: Alan Hendler <alanhendler@...>
              > To: rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com
              > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 3:54 PM
              > Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Website & Meeting Schedule
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > Don,
              > That would be good
              > Actually I have a couple of low powered set tube amps
              > The Klipsch speakers I have are side speakers in a surround
              > sound system so I will have to try them with my set amp.
              > Actually I have not used the Klipsch with any of the amps I have mentioned
              > but mentioned bringing the klipsch because I certainly can't bring My Maggies
              > I am somewhat against quick ab blind tests and would rather play several selections with each amp so that members can get a feel
              > for the basic sound of these different topologies. We are not trying to say which is better but
              > what do they sound like in the context of a particular system
              > Alan
              >
              >
              >
              > From: david weil <dpgdave@...>
              > To: rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com
              > Sent: Mon, April 30, 2012 3:30:47 PM
              > Subject: RE: [rivercityaudiosociety] Website & Meeting Schedule
              >
              >
              >
              > Alan and Don, both ideas sound great. I missed cables meeting, but I saw pictures of the rig Luther built to hide the various components from view and it would be great if we can use that setup in these future meetings to blindly compare the components.
              > Alan, I know the KSB3.1 speakers are quite efficient, perfect for little SET tube amps which should sound wonderful. It maybe a little harder to come up with smaller solid state amps but I have a 10 wpc solid state amp that I can bring along. Don, for the powered monitor meeting, I could bring a set of Dynaudio bm5a active monitors. I could do a meeting on digital computer/laptop based front end setup.
              > Best,
              > David W
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > To: rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com
              > CC: godzilla56@...
              > From: ddisbennett@...
              > Date: Mon, 30
              > Apr 2012 19:14:11 +0000
              > Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Website & Meeting Schedule
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > Bob:
              >
              > I would be willing to do a future meeting at Bjorn's on Powered Speakers. I have two such sets myself, one inexpensive and one modestly priced set, but I would like to have several other sets from other members if they are willing to bring them.
              > Let me know and I will start working on it!
              >
              > Don
              > ---- Robert Guerin <godzilla56@...> wrote:
              > > Don has nailed it here. John and I changed to this format last year inasmuch as
              > > it was a lot of work for the two of of us every month. However, if members would
              > > identify topics, put together equipment and such there is no reason why we cant
              > > go to more general meetings. . Bjorns will allow us there once a month if I ask
              > > in advance. However, in the past when John & I have asked for topics
              > we have
              > > very little or no input. So, if the members want more meetings I think that is
              > > great, but people need to step up for it to happen. Lets pick some months,
              > > identify who will moderate the meeting, coordinate the equipment and so on. John
              > > and I will be happy to continue the quarterly format as we are doing now and the
              > > mini meetings. So, lets hear from others on this subject...what do you want?
              > > As far as a separate website, that is more in Luthers domain. He set this up
              > > for us and it seems to be working very well. If it costs money then that raises
              > > another issue regarding club dues and such. John is already winded chasing
              > > certain people to pay dues. I think I can speak for him when we say we dont need
              > > to go out of pocket any more for expenses.
              > > Anyway, these are good ideas and I like to hear members want more not less. It
              > > is our club and should
              > serve all of our needs. Lets here from others on these
              > > subjects.
              > > Bob
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > ________________________________
              > > From: "ddisbennett@..." <ddisbennett@...>
              > > To: rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com
              > > Cc: Alan Hendler <alanhendler@...>
              > > Sent: Mon, April 30, 2012 11:42:47 AM
              > > Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Website
              > >
              > >
              > > I agree with Alan on both
              > counts: I am not opposed at all to our having our own
              > > website if it can be done well and at a reasonable and sustainable cost, but I
              > > believe the full meetings are very important to retaining our members interest
              > > in the club. We can usually only accommodate 4 or 5 members at a mini-meeting
              > > and we have 20 or more members at the full meetings. As Alan stated, they are a
              > > lot of work(ask Bob and John about that!), but I believe there are plenty of
              > > members who would be more than willing to help with meetings as Luther and I and
              > > others have done in the past. Perhaps we need to get a list of topics for
              > > future meetings and then have members sign up to take charge of those meetings
              > > or help out in various ways to put that meeting on.
              > >
              > > As for Facebook, I am just not interested in it and have no desire to
              > > participate in that media. I was on Facebook briefly and
              > cancelled my
              > > enrollment afterwards; not my thing, but I can see the appeal for younger
              > > members perhaps.
              > >
              > > Don
              > > ---- Alan Hendler <alanhendler@...> wrote:
              > > > Hey guys,
              > > > Regarding the question of should we have our own web site, I would rather see
              > > >us
              > > >
              > > > make a greater effort to have
              > > > more full meetings for the general membership then we are now having. The mini
              > >
              > > > meetings are nice but a lot of our members
              > > > are not attending these and will eventually drop out, It is the full meetings
              > > > that will sustain our club. Trust me
              > > > I speak from experience. I know that the full meetings are a lot of work but we
              > > >
              > > > have plenty of people
              > > > here
              > willing to help out.
              > > > Also I do not want any involvement with Facebook
              > > > Alan
              > >
              > >
              > >
              >
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