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  • Joseph Bohan
    One thing I wonder about is how much compression was used for the LP mastering of Adele s first two albums . I have 21, but it s still sealed waiting for me to
    Message 1 of 12 , Dec 31, 2012
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      One thing I wonder about is how much compression was used for the LP mastering of Adele's first two albums . I have 21, but it's still sealed waiting for me to get a replacement phono preamp . 


      From: Matt <thudeets@...>
      To: "rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com" <rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 5:03 PM
      Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Fw: Adele Live

       
      Joe, Don, Alan, agreed. The Blue Ray of A @ PAH sounds spectacular. Literally the day after hearing it at Joe's I snatched up a personal copy.
      In addition, I guess I am used to all the compression they are using in pop music now days, and had not consciously thought about the impact it has had on Adele's CDs. However, now that you mention it I am realizing they rarely get spin time in my system. Compression may be a contributing subliminal influence on not playing the CDs as often as one might expect for an artist of her excellence. In contrast I play the Blu-Ray frequently.
      From: Joseph Bohan <bohan.joseph@...>
      To: "rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com" <rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 8:00 AM
      Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Fw: Adele Live
       
      Thanks,Don . I have the blu ray and have played excerpts of it for both Steven Z and Matt S and they both enjoyed it,too.Stereo only in my system .

      From: Don Disbennett <ddisbennett@...>
      To: rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 11:44 AM
      Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Fw: Adele Live
       
      Hi, Joe:
       
      Thanks for sending the mini-concert of Adele.  I have both her albums, but they have lots of compression on them and aren’t really great audio quality.  The performance itself, is, of course, wonderful.
      However, it you really want to hear how Adele sounds, pick up the Blu-Ray disc of her live concert at Prince Albert Hall.  It is recorded in uncompressed, mulit-channel audio and really sounds spectacular.  I think you would enjoy it.
      Take care.
       
      Don
       
      Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 9:56 AM
      Subject: [rivercityaudiosociety] Fw: Adele Live
       
       
      This is from BBC tele and may not be here long !!! I wish there were a way to record youtube videos off a computer . My brother Dave sent this link . Thanks to him !    Joe Bohan
       
      ----- Forwarded Message -----
      From: David Bohan <davidbohan57@...>
      To: Joe Bohan <bohan.joseph@...>
      Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 10:44 PM
      Subject: Adele Live
       
      watch before it gets removed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-wv8rrzZro
       


    • ddisbennett@satx.rr.com
      Joe: Yes, that would be interesting to know; I have both her albums, but they are both CD s. I assume they made a different master for the LP s. One thing
      Message 2 of 12 , Dec 31, 2012
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        Joe:

        Yes, that would be interesting to know; I have both her albums, but they are both CD's. I assume they made a different master for the LP's. One thing about LP's nowadays; if someone buys the LP version they are not likely buying to their Ipod, which is not necessarily the case with the CD. By the way, the LP of Linda Ronstadt I won at the Christmas party has terrible surface noise and reminded me why I stopped buying LP's many many years ago. I wonder how much of that noise might be removed by a good record cleaning machine (like Bob's) and how much is actually part of the LP surface itself. Of course, that LP is not one of the new 180 gm. audiophile discs. I used my Discwasher (original) on it before I played it.

        Don
        ---- Joseph Bohan <bohan.joseph@...> wrote:
        > One thing I wonder about is how much compression was used for the LP mastering of Adele's first two albums . I have 21, but it's still sealed waiting for me to get a replacement phono preamp . 
        >
        >
        > ________________________________
        > From: Matt <thudeets@...>
        > To: "rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com" <rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com>
        > Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 5:03 PM
        > Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Fw: Adele Live
        >
        >
        >  
        > Joe, Don, Alan, agreed. The Blue Ray of A @ PAH
        > sounds spectacular. Literally the day after hearing it at Joe's I snatched up a
        > personal copy.
        > In addition, I guess I am
        > used to all the compression they are using in pop music now days, and had not consciously
        > thought about the impact it has had on Adele's CDs. However, now that you
        > mention it I am realizing they rarely get spin time in my system. Compression
        > may be a contributing subliminal influence on not playing the CDs as often as one might expect for an artist of her excellence. In
        > contrast I play the Blu-Ray frequently.
        > From: Joseph Bohan <bohan.joseph@...>
        > To: "rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com" <rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com>
        > Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 8:00 AM
        > Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Fw: Adele Live
        >
        >  
        > Thanks,Don . I have the blu ray and have played excerpts of it for both Steven Z and Matt S and they both enjoyed it,too.Stereo only in my system .
        >
        > From: Don Disbennett <ddisbennett@...>
        > To: rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com
        > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 11:44 AM
        > Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Fw: Adele Live
        >
        >  
        > Hi, Joe:
        >  
        > Thanks for sending the mini-concert of Adele.  I have both her albums,
        > but they have lots of compression on them and aren’t really great audio
        > quality.  The performance itself, is, of course, wonderful.
        > However, it you really want to hear how Adele sounds, pick up the Blu-Ray
        > disc of her live concert at Prince Albert Hall.  It is recorded in
        > uncompressed, mulit-channel audio and really sounds spectacular.  I think
        > you would enjoy it.
        > Take care.
        >  
        > Don
        >  
        > From: Joseph Bohan
        > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 9:56 AM
        > To: Chris Nolen ; Randy Young ; velezamerico@... ; chris.bohan@... ; Michele
        > Jones ; Robert Ethridge ; John Halstead ; Trey Murphy ; Ann Graefing ; John Jones ; Mike
        > Beach ; Mikey Miller ; rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com
        > Subject: [rivercityaudiosociety] Fw: Adele Live
        >  
        >  
        > This is from BBC tele and may not be here long !!! I wish there were
        > a way to record youtube videos off a computer . My brother Dave sent this link .
        > Thanks to him !    Joe Bohan
        >  
        > ----- Forwarded Message -----
        > From: David Bohan
        > <davidbohan57@...>
        > To: Joe Bohan
        > <bohan.joseph@...>
        > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 10:44
        > PM
        > Subject: Adele
        > Live
        >
        >  
        > watch before it gets removed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-wv8rrzZro
        >  
        >
      • ddisbennett@satx.rr.com
        Joe: Yes, that would be interesting to know; I have both her albums, but they are both CD s. I assume they made a different master for the LP s. One thing
        Message 3 of 12 , Dec 31, 2012
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          Joe:

          Yes, that would be interesting to know; I have both her albums, but they are both CD's. I assume they made a different master for the LP's. One thing about LP's nowadays; if someone buys the LP version they are not likely buying to their Ipod, which is not necessarily the case with the CD. By the way, the LP of Linda Ronstadt I won at the Christmas party has terrible surface noise and reminded me why I stopped buying LP's many many years ago. I wonder how much of that noise might be removed by a good record cleaning machine (like Bob's) and how much is actually part of the LP surface itself. Of course, that LP is not one of the new 180 gm. audiophile discs. I used my Discwasher (original) on it before I played it.

          Don
          ---- Joseph Bohan <bohan.joseph@...> wrote:
          > One thing I wonder about is how much compression was used for the LP mastering of Adele's first two albums . I have 21, but it's still sealed waiting for me to get a replacement phono preamp . 
          >
          >
          > ________________________________
          > From: Matt <thudeets@...>
          > To: "rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com" <rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com>
          > Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 5:03 PM
          > Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Fw: Adele Live
          >
          >
          >  
          > Joe, Don, Alan, agreed. The Blue Ray of A @ PAH
          > sounds spectacular. Literally the day after hearing it at Joe's I snatched up a
          > personal copy.
          > In addition, I guess I am
          > used to all the compression they are using in pop music now days, and had not consciously
          > thought about the impact it has had on Adele's CDs. However, now that you
          > mention it I am realizing they rarely get spin time in my system. Compression
          > may be a contributing subliminal influence on not playing the CDs as often as one might expect for an artist of her excellence. In
          > contrast I play the Blu-Ray frequently.
          > From: Joseph Bohan <bohan.joseph@...>
          > To: "rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com" <rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com>
          > Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 8:00 AM
          > Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Fw: Adele Live
          >
          >  
          > Thanks,Don . I have the blu ray and have played excerpts of it for both Steven Z and Matt S and they both enjoyed it,too.Stereo only in my system .
          >
          > From: Don Disbennett <ddisbennett@...>
          > To: rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com
          > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 11:44 AM
          > Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Fw: Adele Live
          >
          >  
          > Hi, Joe:
          >  
          > Thanks for sending the mini-concert of Adele.  I have both her albums,
          > but they have lots of compression on them and aren’t really great audio
          > quality.  The performance itself, is, of course, wonderful.
          > However, it you really want to hear how Adele sounds, pick up the Blu-Ray
          > disc of her live concert at Prince Albert Hall.  It is recorded in
          > uncompressed, mulit-channel audio and really sounds spectacular.  I think
          > you would enjoy it.
          > Take care.
          >  
          > Don
          >  
          > From: Joseph Bohan
          > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 9:56 AM
          > To: Chris Nolen ; Randy Young ; velezamerico@... ; chris.bohan@... ; Michele
          > Jones ; Robert Ethridge ; John Halstead ; Trey Murphy ; Ann Graefing ; John Jones ; Mike
          > Beach ; Mikey Miller ; rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com
          > Subject: [rivercityaudiosociety] Fw: Adele Live
          >  
          >  
          > This is from BBC tele and may not be here long !!! I wish there were
          > a way to record youtube videos off a computer . My brother Dave sent this link .
          > Thanks to him !    Joe Bohan
          >  
          > ----- Forwarded Message -----
          > From: David Bohan
          > <davidbohan57@...>
          > To: Joe Bohan
          > <bohan.joseph@...>
          > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 10:44
          > PM
          > Subject: Adele
          > Live
          >
          >  
          > watch before it gets removed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-wv8rrzZro
          >  
          >
        • Matt
          Joe, the stuff I have seen would indicate that the album should have noticeably less compression than the CD and should sound better than the CD. There may
          Message 4 of 12 , Jan 1, 2013
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            Joe, the stuff I have seen would indicate that the album should have noticeably less compression than the CD and should sound better than the CD. There may also be a discrepancy in production quality between the US pressing and the European pressing. The US having more pops, clicks and surface noise. However, there is some difference of opinion on that.
            That said, my experience with new vinyl (re-issues or recent artists' first pressings) is that I just have to listen to my specific copy. Some are excellent, while others are not worthy, and as far as I can determine there is no ryme or reason involved. Maybe production quality has always been up and down the scale, and I just never cared back when vinyl was king. Don't get me started though.
            So, if you just can't wait to get the phono preamp come over and give your specific copy a spin on the system over here. I'm free again most weekends now that the holiday hubbub is over. Most weekends are good.
            From: Joseph Bohan <bohan.joseph@...>
            To: "rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com" <rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com>
            Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 1:01 PM
            Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Fw: Adele Live
             
            One thing I wonder about is how much compression was used for the LP mastering of Adele's first two albums . I have 21, but it's still sealed waiting for me to get a replacement phono preamp . 

            From: Matt <thudeets@...>
            To: "rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com" <rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com>
            Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 5:03 PM
            Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Fw: Adele Live
             
            Joe, Don, Alan, agreed. The Blue Ray of A @ PAH sounds spectacular. Literally the day after hearing it at Joe's I snatched up a personal copy.
            In addition, I guess I am used to all the compression they are using in pop music now days, and had not consciously thought about the impact it has had on Adele's CDs. However, now that you mention it I am realizing they rarely get spin time in my system. Compression may be a contributing subliminal influence on not playing the CDs as often as one might expect for an artist of her excellence. In contrast I play the Blu-Ray frequently.
            From: Joseph Bohan <bohan.joseph@...>
            To: "rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com" <rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com>
            Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 8:00 AM
            Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Fw: Adele Live
             
            Thanks,Don . I have the blu ray and have played excerpts of it for both Steven Z and Matt S and they both enjoyed it,too.Stereo only in my system .

            From: Don Disbennett <ddisbennett@...>
            To: rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 11:44 AM
            Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Fw: Adele Live
             
            Hi, Joe:
             
            Thanks for sending the mini-concert of Adele.  I have both her albums, but they have lots of compression on them and aren’t really great audio quality.  The performance itself, is, of course, wonderful.
            However, it you really want to hear how Adele sounds, pick up the Blu-Ray disc of her live concert at Prince Albert Hall.  It is recorded in uncompressed, mulit-channel audio and really sounds spectacular.  I think you would enjoy it.
            Take care.
             
            Don
             
            Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 9:56 AM
            Subject: [rivercityaudiosociety] Fw: Adele Live
             
             
            This is from BBC tele and may not be here long !!! I wish there were a way to record youtube videos off a computer . My brother Dave sent this link . Thanks to him !    Joe Bohan
             
            ----- Forwarded Message -----
            From: David Bohan <davidbohan57@...>
            To: Joe Bohan <bohan.joseph@...>
            Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 10:44 PM
            Subject: Adele Live
             
            watch before it gets removed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-wv8rrzZro
             
          • Joseph Bohan
            Thanks for the offer,Matt. I might take you up on that after I get over the Flu . And you re exactly correct-record quality has ALWAYS been all over the map .
            Message 5 of 12 , Jan 1, 2013
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              Thanks for the offer,Matt. I might take you up on that after I get over the Flu . And you're exactly correct-record quality has ALWAYS been all over the map . No logic to it ,except classical usually is better than the rest.I once read an industry insider that quality of product is not even in the top 5 considerations of the music Business.    Happy New Year !  Joe


              From: Matt <thudeets@...>
              To: "rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com" <rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2013 8:18 AM
              Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Fw: Adele Live

               
              Joe, the stuff I have seen would indicate that the album should have noticeably less compression than the CD and should sound better than the CD. There may also be a discrepancy in production quality between the US pressing and the European pressing. The US having more pops, clicks and surface noise. However, there is some difference of opinion on that.
              That said, my experience with new vinyl (re-issues or recent artists' first pressings) is that I just have to listen to my specific copy. Some are excellent, while others are not worthy, and as far as I can determine there is no ryme or reason involved. Maybe production quality has always been up and down the scale, and I just never cared back when vinyl was king. Don't get me started though.
              So, if you just can't wait to get the phono preamp come over and give your specific copy a spin on the system over here. I'm free again most weekends now that the holiday hubbub is over. Most weekends are good.
              From: Joseph Bohan <bohan.joseph@...>
              To: "rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com" <rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 1:01 PM
              Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Fw: Adele Live
               
              One thing I wonder about is how much compression was used for the LP mastering of Adele's first two albums . I have 21, but it's still sealed waiting for me to get a replacement phono preamp . 

              From: Matt <thudeets@...>
              To: "rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com" <rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 5:03 PM
              Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Fw: Adele Live
               
              Joe, Don, Alan, agreed. The Blue Ray of A @ PAH sounds spectacular. Literally the day after hearing it at Joe's I snatched up a personal copy.
              In addition, I guess I am used to all the compression they are using in pop music now days, and had not consciously thought about the impact it has had on Adele's CDs. However, now that you mention it I am realizing they rarely get spin time in my system. Compression may be a contributing subliminal influence on not playing the CDs as often as one might expect for an artist of her excellence. In contrast I play the Blu-Ray frequently.
              From: Joseph Bohan <bohan.joseph@...>
              To: "rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com" <rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 8:00 AM
              Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Fw: Adele Live
               
              Thanks,Don . I have the blu ray and have played excerpts of it for both Steven Z and Matt S and they both enjoyed it,too.Stereo only in my system .

              From: Don Disbennett <ddisbennett@...>
              To: rivercityaudiosociety@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 11:44 AM
              Subject: Re: [rivercityaudiosociety] Fw: Adele Live
               
              Hi, Joe:
               
              Thanks for sending the mini-concert of Adele.  I have both her albums, but they have lots of compression on them and aren’t really great audio quality.  The performance itself, is, of course, wonderful.
              However, it you really want to hear how Adele sounds, pick up the Blu-Ray disc of her live concert at Prince Albert Hall.  It is recorded in uncompressed, mulit-channel audio and really sounds spectacular.  I think you would enjoy it.
              Take care.
               
              Don
               
              Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 9:56 AM
              Subject: [rivercityaudiosociety] Fw: Adele Live
               
               
              This is from BBC tele and may not be here long !!! I wish there were a way to record youtube videos off a computer . My brother Dave sent this link . Thanks to him !    Joe Bohan
               
              ----- Forwarded Message -----
              From: David Bohan <davidbohan57@...>
              To: Joe Bohan <bohan.joseph@...>
              Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 10:44 PM
              Subject: Adele Live
               
              watch before it gets removed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-wv8rrzZro
               


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