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Georgia Times claim Mikhail Gorbachev & Condolezza Rice to visit Georgia Sep 6th

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  • Peter Dow
    Georgia Times Saakashvili keeps place of meeting with Gorbachuov, Rice and perrry secret http://www.georgiatimes.info/en/news/41688.html In the course of the
    Message 1 of 1 , Sep 2, 2010

      Georgia Times
      Saakashvili keeps place of meeting with Gorbachuov, Rice and perrry secret

      In the course of the international symposium Georgia will be visited by ex - U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice; ex-President of the USSR Mikhail Gorbachyov; ex - U.S. Secretary of Defense William J. Perry - Novosti-Gruzia.


      They will arrive on September 6th. The Foreign Ministry of Georgia and the U.S. embassy to Georgia so far have no information on the planned symposium.

      Nothing is said about the place of the meeting.


      Then world leaders will continue symposiums in Azerbaijan, Russia, and Ukraine.

      The event is devoted to global challenges in post-Soviet space.


      According to World Leaders Travel, in the course of the tour ex-leaders will participate in discussions of political and cultural complications in the region, Russia's influence, non-proliferation of nuclear weapons. The existing conflicts will also be discussed. 

      Peter Dow comments.
      OK I am just quoting what the Georgia Times website has published. You need to make allowances that English is not the Georgian headline writer's first language - hence why he/she has misspelled "Perry", and "Gorbachev" you can spell anyway you like I guess since it is a Russian name. (The Germans spell Gorbachev as "Gorbatschow").
      The day before Georgia Times claimed the meeting was to be on the 7th, rather than the 6th. http://www.georgiatimes.info/en/news/41573.html
      OK so what is really going to happen? What has been said already? What rings true about this report?
      I don't know if the two great world leaders Gorbachev and Rice will meet. I certainly hope that they do meet and just as important the media will be there to record the event and what is said for history.
      It looked like the two would meet when the World Leaders Symposium, "Global Challenges in a Post Perestroika World" was announced but then the small print in this official brochure
      "Condoleezza rice will join the symposium on September 3–6 aboard
      the Silver Wind. William Perry will be on the symposium in its entirety.
      Mikhail gorbachev will join the symposium for a day on September 1"
      Which strongly implied that Gorbachev would not be leaving Moscow and coming on board the "Silver Wind" cruise with Rice and the two would not meet after all, which would be a shame and a missed opportunity.
      Note however that Rice can arrive in Georgia by the Silver Wind and Gorbachev even if he is not on board could perhaps fly in separately for the meeting in Georgia.
      What rings true is if there is a meeting planned, the details of where and would not be announced far in advance for security reasons.
      However, at some point, if the media is to be allowed to be there to record and to report the meeting, they will have to announce where it is to be, exactly.
      At which point PLEASE would professional journalists and Georgian bloggers get down there to the venue and take some video and photographs for the rest of us who can't be there for this historical reunion but who would love to be there if we could.
      I do hope plenty of video and photographs and recordings are made at the time and later uploaded onto the internet.
      Plus if anyone is lucky enough to be on board the Silver Wind, please take photographs and video of Condoleezza Rice (and Gorbachev if he is there) and send them to me Peter Dow - peterdow@... for upload to the web and so that all Rice for President Yahoo Group members can see them. Thanks!
      OK well watch this space for more developments.
      - Peter Dow

      --- On Sat, 28/8/10, Peter Dow <peterdow@...> wrote:

      From: Peter Dow <peterdow@...>
      Subject: [rice-for-president] Dear Condi. Let's have our honeymoon on your Black Sea cruise from 3rd-6th September!
      To: "Rice for President" <rice-for-president@yahoogroups.com>,
      Date: Saturday, 28 August, 2010, 4:46

      To Condoleezza Rice,
      Dear Condi,
      You know how you are going on a Black Sea cruise on the Silver Wind cruise vessel departing this next Friday, 3rd September from Istanbul, Turkey, arriving Monday, 6th September Batumi, Georgia?
      No, not that cruise - that was September 5, 2007 in Sydney, Australia, with President Bush and Australian Prime Minister John Howard. That was then but this is now.
      THIS cruise - the World Leaders Symposium, "Global Challenges in a Post Perestroika World" - you know the one.
      Yes, the one where you are not attending the initial part of the package tour for the Gala dinner with Gorbachev in Moscow and the one where Gorbachev is not coming on the later Black Sea cruise with you even though all your fans want to see you two most impressive world leaders photographed and videoed together and saying nice things about each other.
      After all you did both end the cold war, re-unite Germany, free Europe, bring down the iron curtain, prevent nuclear war between the two super-powers and generally save civilisation for all humanity.
      You are right Condi, it doesn't get any better than that. Thank you very much. 
      Condoleezza Rice at the Malta Summit with USA. President George H. W. Bush and USSR General Secretary Mikhail S. Gorbachev in December 1989, on board the Soviet cruise ship Maxim Gorky, Marsaxlokk Harbour, Malta
      so it would be a nice footnote in history to see you two re-united again after all this time. Maybe some other time then?
      Well I was thinking there is still just time for the two of us to strike up a relationship, have a whirl-wind romance,  get married and we could have our honeymoon on the cruise next long weekend,  providing of course that you buy my ticket, at those prices!
      No?  Oh well, that won't be the first time you have declined my marriage proposal by default by ignoring me completely.  Some other time for that one as well then?
       has had 1,595 views now. Haven't you heard how keen I am on wooing my dearest Condi by now?
      Anyway, have a nice cruise on the Black Sea this coming long weekend and I sincerely hope that you go with or meet a suitable travelling companion who gives you all the love and kisses which you do deserve.
      Lots of love,
      Peter Dow
      PS Any more thoughts on that whole "running for president" thing?
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      --- On Thu, 4/2/10, Peter Dow <peterdow@...> wrote:

      From: Peter Dow <peterdow@...>
      Subject: [rice-for-president] Condi and Gorby to launch world leaders' cruise. Russia - Georgia - Azerbaijan - Ukraine - Turkey.
      To: "Rice for President" <rice-for-president@yahoogroups.com>, Condalisa_Rice_fan_club@yahoogroups.com, Condi_For_Office_2008@yahoogroups.com, Condi_for_President@yahoogroups.com, condi_rice@yahoogroups.com, condoleezza_rice@yahoogroups.com, Condoleezza-Rice-for-President@yahoogroups.com, condoleezzaricefanclub@yahoogroups.com, Rice2008@yahoogroups.com, VoteRice@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Thursday, 4 February, 2010, 19:02

      Could anyone give me 24,000 dollars please because the San Francisco Citizens says world leaders can go on a world leaders' cruise with Condi and Gorby, around the Black Sea in a luxury cruise ship this August/September?  No?   Thought not.


      • Days 1-4
        U.S. / Moscow, Russia
      • Day 5
        Moscow / Istanbul, Turkey / Embark the Silver Wind
      • Days 6-7
        At Sea
      • Day 8
        Batumi & Tbilisi, Georgia
      • Day 9
        At Sea
      • Day 10
        Sochi, Russia / Baku, Azerbaijan
      • Day 11
        At Sea
      • Day 12
      • Day 13
        Odessa & Pervomaysk, Ukraine
      • Day 14
        At Sea
      • Days 15-17
        Disembark / Istanbul / U.S.
      Actually, WORLD LEADERS Travel don't claim that Condi and Gorby will actually be on aboard the Silver Wind for the cruise part of the event and my impression from the schedule is that Condoleezza Rice and Michael Gorbachev will be only be participating in the Moscow events from August 30th.
      Oh well Condi and I will have to make other honeymoon plans.
      - Peter Dow, Group Owner,
      Rice for President Yahoo Group

      Condoleezza Rice to Headline Black Sea Cruise Aboard the Silver Wind

      Exclusive educational travel event from Moscow to Istanbul also features William J. Perry, Mikhail Gorbachev, luxurious accommodations, and customized excursions

      , Feb. 3 /PRNewswire/ -- San Francisco-based educational tour operator World Leaders Travel today announced its 2010 World Leaders Symposium featuring former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, former Secretary of Defense William Perry, former Soviet president Mikhail Gorbachev, and a team of leading figures in fields ranging from technology and the U.S.-Russian space race to cultural history and global affairs.
      This one-of-a-kind travel event from August 30 to September 15, 2010, features a 10-night cruise aboard the privately chartered Silver Wind, with specially arranged shore excursions in Russia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Ukraine, and Turkey.
      Focusing on the cultural, historical, and political highlights of the Black Sea region, the Symposium begins in Moscow with three nights at The Ritz-Carlton.
      Travelers will experience a Moscow rarely seen by visitors and attend a gala dinner with Gorbachev. Participants then fly by chartered jet to Istanbul, Turkey, to board the luxurious Silver Wind, which serves as the primary venue for presentations by Rice and others. The ship, among the highest-rated small cruise vessels afloat, will circumnavigate the Black Sea with visits to Batumi, Georgia; Sochi, Russia; Baku, Azerbaijan; and Yalta, Sevastopol, and Odessa in Ukraine before returning to Istanbul.
      After disembarking the Silver Wind, guests will move in to the elegant Ciragan Palace Kempinski Hotel for two nights, and enjoy private special events and lectures during the trip's final days. Optional extensions to Kiev, Chernobyl, and Moscow, and to Istanbul and Ephesus, are also available.
      An unparalleled educational program includes off-the-record discussions with globally significant leaders and valuable context and insight provided by a team of scholars from sponsoring organizations. Featured speakers include Librarian of Congress James Billington; Google's Vinton G. Cerf, widely regarded as one of the "fathers of the Internet"; former diplomatic correspondent Marvin Kalb; EastWest Institute president John Mroz; and astrophysicist Michael Shara, among others.
      Symposium sponsors include American Museum of Natural History Expeditions, Chautauqua Institution, Foreign Affairs magazine, Harvard Alumni Association Travels, Princeton Journeys, Alumnae Association of Smith College, Smithsonian Journeys, and Yale Educational Travel.
      For pricing information, a detailed brochure, or to book today, please contact one of the Symposium sponsors, your professional travel advisor, call World Leaders Travel at (800) 395-3288, or visit WorldLeadersTravel. com.
      SOURCE World Leaders Travel


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      Billington, James

      James Billington

      James Hadley Billington has been The Librarian of Congress since September 1987. Educated at Princeton University (1950) and Oxford (1953), he was a professor of history at Princeton from 1964 to 1973. Billington is the author the classic cultural history, The Icon and the Axe (1966); The Face of Russia (1998), a companion book to his PBS series of the same name; and many other books. In 1988 he accompanied President Ronald Reagan to the Soviet Summit in Moscow. He is the founder and chairman of the Open World Leadership Center, which has brought 15,000 young political leaders from Russia, Ukraine, and other successor states to the U.S., and has been chairman of the board that administers the Fulbright Exchange Program worldwide. The recipient of 40 honorary doctorates and 11 foreign state decorations, Billington is currently consultant to President Medvedev of Russia on a new Russian library system. He is the founder of the World Digital Library program, which has put online cultural treasures from all 192 countries in UNESCO.

      Cerf, Vinton G.

      Vinton G. Cerf

      Vinton G. Cerf has served as vice president and chief Internet evangelist for Google since October 2005. In this role, he is responsible for identifying new enabling technologies to support the development of advanced, Internet-based products and services from Google. Widely known as one of the “Fathers of the Internet,” Cerf is the co-designer of the TCP/IP protocols and the architecture of the Internet. Cerf and his colleague, Robert E. Kahn, received the U.S. National Medal of Technology in 1997 for founding and developing the Internet; the 2004 ACM Alan M. Turing award (sometimes called the “Nobel Prize of Computer Science”) for their work on the Internet protocols; the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2005; and the prestigious Japan Prize in 2008. Former senior vice president of technology strategy for MCI, Cerf was responsible for helping to guide corporate strategy development from the technical perspective. Previously, Cerf served as MCI’s senior vice president of Architecture and Technology. Cerf is an expert on the global future of the Internet and will discuss the use of modern social networking technologies areas visited in this program.

      Gorbachev, Mikhail

      Mikhail Gorbachev

      Mikhail Gorbachev was president of the former Soviet Union (1985–1991) and is best known for his role in ending the Cold War. Attaining the Communist Party’s highest spot in March 1985, he pushed for significant reforms and an end to the arms race with the West. In 1992, following a coup that stripped him of political initiative, Gorbachev resigned. A recipient of the 1990 Nobel Peace Prize, the Orders of Lenin, the Red Banner of Labour, and the Badge of Honour, Gorbachev has emerged as a leading spokesperson for the environmental movement, most notably as founding president of Green Cross International. He is also president of The Gorbachev Foundation.

      Kalb, Marvin

      Marvin Kalb

      Marvin Kalb, Edward R. Murrow Professor of Practice, Emeritus, and senior fellow at the Joan Shorenstein Center on the Press, Politics and Public Policy at Harvard, was the Shorenstein Center’s founding director and Edward R. Murrow Professor of Press and Public Policy. His distinguished journalism career encompasses 30 years of award-winning reporting for CBS and NBC News as chief diplomatic correspondent, Moscow bureau chief, and host of Meet the Press. His most recent book, The Media and the War on Terrorism (co-edited with Stephen Hess), explores the interaction between the government and the media during times of war and national emergency. He hosts the Kalb Report, a discussion of media ethics and responsibility at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C.; is a regular contributor to Fox television and National Public Radio; and was the recipient of the 2006 National Press Club Fourth Estate Award.

      Mroz, John Edwin

      John Edwin Mroz

      John Edwin Mroz is president and chief executive officer of the EastWest Institute. From its roots as a European-American initiative to bridge the divisions between Europe and Eurasia, John built EWI into one of the world’s pre-eminent non-governmental change-agent institutions. He has served as an advisor to more than 20 governments including the United States, Germany, Poland, and the Russian Federation, as well as the Commission of the European Union, NATO, the Council of Europe, and the G-8. Among his numerous international accolades is Germany’s highest award to a non-citizen in recognition of the role he and EWI played in facilitating German reunification. Mroz completed his graduate studies at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy after earning an MA from Northeastern University and a BA from the University of Notre Dame. He is the author of a landmark book on the Arab-Israeli conflict, Beyond Security: Private Perceptions among Arabs and Israelis. He writes regularly in the international press on global change and international security affairs and is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

      Perry, William J.

      William J. Perry

      William J. Perry, U.S. Secretary of Defense from 1994 to 1997, is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and the Michael and Barbara Berberian Professor at Stanford University, with a joint appointment in the School of Engineering and the Institute for International Studies, where he is co-director of the Preventive Defense Project, a research collaboration of Stanford and Harvard Universities. From 1988 to 1993 he was the co-director of Stanford’s Center for International Security and Arms Control. Dr. Perry, a graduate of Stanford (BS 1949, MS 1950), was the nineteenth United States secretary of defense and also served as deputy secretary of defense (1993–94) and undersecretary of defense for research and engineering (1977–81). He is a member of the National Academy of Engineering and fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. Among Dr. Perry’s numerous awards are the Presidential Medal of Freedom (1997) and the Department of Defense Distinguished Service Medal (1980 and 1981). He has also received decorations from the governments of Germany, England, France, Korea, Albania, Poland, Ukraine, Bahrain, Slovenia, Hungary, and Japan.

      Rice, Condoleezza

      Condoleezza Rice

      Condoleezza Rice is the Thomas and Barbara Stephenson Senior Fellow on Public Policy at the Hoover Institution and professor of political science at Stanford University. From January 2005 to 2009, she served as the 66th Secretary of State of the United States. Prior to that, from January 2001 to 2005, she was the national security advisor to President George W. Bush. Rice joined the Stanford University faculty as a professor of political science in 1981 and served as Stanford’s provost from 1993 to 1999. She was a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution before and after her term as provost. Rice won two of Stanford’s highest teaching honors: the 1984 Walter J. Gores Award for Excellence in Teaching and the 1993 School of Humanities and Sciences Dean’s Award for Distinguished Teaching. She has authored and coauthored several books, including Germany Unified and Europe Transformed: A Study in Statecraft (1995), with Philip Zelikow; The Gorbachev Era (1986), with Alexander Dallin; and Uncertain Allegiance: The Soviet Union and the Czechoslovak Army (1984). Rice currently serves on the board of trustees of the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts and is a fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. She earned her bachelor’s degree in political science from the University of Denver in 1974, her master’s from the University of Notre Dame in 1975, and her PhD from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981.

      Shara, Michael

      Michael Shara

      Michael Shara is curator of astrophysics at the American Museum of Natural History and curator of the critically acclaimed Einstein exhibition. His research interests include the evolution and explosions of novae and supernovae; hunting for planets orbiting other stars; and the populations of stars inhabiting dense clusters and galaxies. He and his research group are conducting an exhaustive survey of more than one billion stars to inventory the 100,000 stars nearest to Earth. He frequently observes with the Hubble Space Telescope and other large ground-based telescopes. Dr. Shara has been both a visiting and an adjunct professor at Columbia University and an astronomer at the Space Telescope Science Institute. He has served on the National Science Foundation Compact Stars Review Panel and the NASA/IPAC Extragalactic Database Project Advisory Committee, among others. He will discuss the U.S.-Russian space race, explain how astrophysics relates to nuclear weapons technology, and lead the group through Moscow’s Star City.


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      Harvard Alumni Association
      Princeton Journeys
      Association of Smith Alumnae
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      Yale Educational Travel
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