Condi from the G8 in St Petersburg - CBS Face the Nation & Fox News Sunday
- Interestingly, Condi attended this year's G8 in St Petersburg, Russia - whereas at last year's G8, in Gleneagles, Scotland, she wasn't there - nor, I don't think, were any of the Foreign Secretaries/Ministers of G8 countries.There follows a couple of transcripts of Condi interviews and then some more photographs from G8.- Peter Dow,Owner, Rice for President Yahoo GroupCBS Face the NationFace the Nation (CBS News) - Sunday, July 16, 20063BURRELLE'S INFORMATION SERVICES / (202)419-1859 / (800)456-2877The president, as we mentioned, is in St. Petersburg this morning for the so-called G8 economic summit, butthe Middle East is also topic A there, and that's where Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is as well.Madam Secretary, this appears to be worse than ever this morning. What is your assessment from there?Dr. CONDOLEEZZA RICE (Secretary of State): Well, clearly we're concerned about the growing civiliancasualties. We're concerned about the general instability in the area. Bob, I think we have to be committedto dealing not just with the immediate crisis but to laying a foundation so that, when we are out of this set ofcircumstances, we don't have repeated violence again. We all want a cessation of the violence, but we alsowant a return to the international framework--Resolution 1559 in the case of Lebanon; the road map in thecase of the Palestinian territories--that will give us a permanent and firm foundation rather than one--acessation of violence that would be held hostage to the next time that Hezbollah or Hamas decide that theywant to attack Israeli territory.SCHIEFFER: Well, Madam Secretary, what exactly is the United States doing here? The Lebanese leaderyesterday called on the United States to call for a cease-fire. The president says he is not going to do that.What exactly are we doing here?Dr. RICE: We are working with all of our allies in the region, including Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan. Weare working with members of the G8 here. We're working with the secretary-general, and, of course, we'retalking constantly to the Israelis to the Lebanese and to the Palestinians. And what we're trying to do, Bob,is, obviously, to have a cessation of violence. That's going to be important. But I want to repeat, you have tohave a cessation of violence that moves this process forward. If you simply say, `OK, let's cease theviolence,' and it leaves the conditions in place that allow these extremists to launch these attacks in the firstplace, then I can assure you we will be back here three weeks from now or three months from now talkingabout another need for a cessation of violence. This time we need to make sure that Resolution 1559 is--isenforced for Lebanon. That resolution says that unauthorized groups should not be allowed to operate onLebanese territory in precisely the way that Hezbollah did. What Hezbollah did was to use Lebaneseterritory to launch an attack against Israel without the knowledge of the Lebanese government. That showsthe importance of 1559. We have to have a circumstance in which the Palestinian security forces are able toprevent attacks from Gaza into Israeli territory. We've got to get at the underlying circumstance here, whichis that these extremist forces have shown their hand. They're determined not to let progress be made towarda two-state solution. They're determined not to have the Lebanese people have sovereignty and democracy.And we are equally determined to isolate the extremist elements and disable them.SCHIEFFER: Do you believe that Syria and Iran are playing a part in this, Madam Secretary?Dr. RICE: I absolutely see that Syria and Iran are playing a part in this. They're not even trying to hide theirhand. Syria has held press conferences with radical elements of Hamas. They've held press conferences forHezbollah. The radical elements of Hamas sit in Syria and find harbor there. And Iran is the major financierof these efforts. And Iran and Syria, like these extremist elements, Hezbollah and Hamas, don't really have afuture in the different kind of Middle East that the president and his allies are building. Of course, through...SCHIEFFER: Are we saying anything to either of them?Dr. RICE: Well, many states are speaking with one voice to Syria and to Iran, most especially the regionalstates are talking about the importance of Syria, helping to get that--those Israel soldiers returned safely toIsrael, of playing their role in stopping the attacks. Absolutely, there are efforts with Syria and with Tehranthrough states that have relations with them, of course.Face the Nation (CBS News) - Sunday, July 16, 20064BURRELLE'S INFORMATION SERVICES / (202)419-1859 / (800)456-2877SCHIEFFER: Madam Secretary, there are a lot of Americans in Beirut. How are you going to get them outof there?Dr. RICE: Well, Bob, this is something I'm following really hour to hour. The ambassador there has fullauthority to recommend what needs to be done. We're going to protect Americans. We have contingencyplans for evacuation of Americans should that become necessary, and we've already authorized some of thedeparture of embassy personnel, and we're helping Americans in any way that we can. That is anoverwhelming preoccupation right now of our--of our embassy and of our consulate forces.SCHIEFFER: What impact is this having on Iraq?Dr. RICE: Well, Iraq is a piece of the puzzle of this different kind of Middle East. Nobody can imagine adifferent kind of Middle East with Saddam Hussein in the middle of it. You can certainly imagine adifferent kind of Middle East with a moderate Shia-led but multiethnic, multireligious Iraq. And so Iraq is apiece of this. But, of course, many of the forces that would like to destabilize the rest of the region wouldlike to destabilize the young Iraqi government. We have to recognize what is going on here. This is nowbecoming very clear. The extremists are showing their hands, and we have to be equally determined thatthey're not going to succeed in Iraq, in Lebanon and in the Palestinian territories.SCHIEFFER: And what is the president doing? Has he made any calls in connection with this thismorning? How much of his time is he spending on this?Dr. RICE: Well, the president was just this morning with Prime Minister Blair, where they spent the bulk oftheir time on this issue with President Chirac, where they talked in substantial agreement about theunderlying problem here and the need to address the underlying problems. I would remind everyone thatGreat Britain, France and the United States were the co-sponsors of Resolution 1559 that relates tosovereignty for Lebanon. And so he is working very actively with his colleagues here, but he's also hadphone calls with the Prime Minister Siniora and King Abdullah of Jordan and will talk to others as well.SCHIEFFER: All right. Well, thank you very much, Madam Secretary.Fox News SundayTranscript: Secretary Rice on 'FOX News Sunday'Sunday , July 16, 2006The following is a partial transcript of the July 16, 2006, edition of "FOX News Sunday With Chris Wallace":"FOX NEWS SUNDAY" HOST CHRIS WALLACE: And we're joined now by the Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who's attending the G8 summit in St. Petersburg, Russia.Secretary Rice, thanks for taking time out to talk with us. How do you view the current situation in the Middle East, as the kind of cross-border conflict that we have seen over the years or as something more dangerous that has the potential to create a regional conflict?SECRETARY OF STATE CONDOLEEZZA RICE: Well, we certainly view the situation with great concern, and the president is having discussions with his counterparts here about that. We're concerned about the rising civilian casualties. We're concerned about the general atmosphere in the region.But I would say that what is really happening here is that extremists have revealed their hand. They are demonstrating that they cannot tolerate the forward march of democratic moderate forces in the Middle East.They are trying to destabilize the young government of Lebanon by, in the case of Hezbollah, using Lebanon's territory to attack Israel without the knowledge of the Lebanese government.In the case of radical elements of Hamas, as President Abbas was making some progress toward getting Palestinian leaders to move toward quartet conditions and to engage Prime Minister Olmert, radical elements have acted out. And of course, they're doing this in conjunction with sponsors in Damascus and in Tehran.So what we really have here is extremist forces making very clear what the situation is, and we therefore have to work hard to stabilize and to promote a set of platforms on which moderate forces can stand.WALLACE: Well, let's talk about precisely that, because some of the allies that you're meeting with at the summit in St. Petersburg are talking about an immediate ceasefire, but the Israelis are talking about a bombing campaign that could take weeks to basically rewrite the facts on the ground and put Hezbollah out of business in southern Lebanon.Does the U.S. want to see, in effect, a solution to the problem so it doesn't just paper it over and six months, a year, down the line we're in exactly the same situation?RICE: Well, that's a very important point, Chris. First of all, Israel has a right to defend itself. No country would sit and continue to receive rocket fire against civilian populations and not try to do something about it.What we have asked of the Israelis is that they act in a way to avoid innocent civilian casualties, to avoid the destruction of civilian infrastructure, because there does need to be another day. Israel will need to have those moderate allies in Lebanon and in the Palestinian territories in order to create a stable peace.But what we don't want to do is to have a cessation of violence that is not going to last for more than the next time that Hezbollah or Hamas decides that they're going to launch a rocket into Israel or abduct an Israeli citizen.We need to deal with the fundamental underlying conditions here, and that means to isolate the extremists. That means to get back to the framework in Lebanon of Resolution 1559 which was aimed at protecting the sovereignty of Lebanon and disarming unauthorized armed groups, and, in the case of the Palestinian territories, to get back on the road to a two-state solution with President Abbas and the Israelis.WALLACE: Secretary Rice, you talk about obviously the danger of civilian and collateral damage. At least one American reportedly has been injured. What is our government doing to get those 25,000 Americans who are in Lebanon out of harm's way?RICE: Chris, we are following this hour to hour. The ambassador is fully empowered to make recommendations to us about what needs to be done to protect American life. We have contingency plans should we need them for evacuation.We've already allowed authorized departures of some of our personnel in the embassy. We're watching this hour by hour. I'm getting reports every few hours about the situation there. We're going to do what we need to do to protect Americans.WALLACE: Secretary Rice, you talked about the fact that it is not just Hezbollah and Hamas, but also their sponsor states of Syria and Iran.I've talked with top Israeli officials over the last few days who absolutely believe that Iran is behind all of this and that it is no coincidence that within 24 hours after the west put new pressure on them to stop their nuclear program that their proxy, Hezbollah, attacked in Israel.Do you believe, as the Israelis do, that, in fact, Iran is orchestrating all of this to send a message that if we make trouble for them, they can make trouble for us?RICE: Well, I don't know what message Iran intends to send. I do know that it is very clear that there is an Iranian hand behind indeed, Iranian financing behind Hezbollah and perhaps some of the radical elements of Hamas, that they've made common cause with Syria in which the radical elements of Hamas reside and in which Hezbollah also has offices and infrastructure, and that they're all Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, Hamas trying to destabilize democratic and moderate forces, trying to throw the region into chaos, and they can't be allowed to do that.I would just note that the Saudi statement in this regard pointed the finger just a couple of days ago directly at these extremist elements, who, when progress was being made in the Palestinian territories, when progress was being made in Lebanon, decided that they had to disrupt that process.And so as we look at today's current events, as we are concerned about the growing civilian casualties, we also have to look at these underlying circumstances and say to extremist elements you are not going to succeed in destabilizing this region and you're not going to succeed in taking away the chance for a moderate and democratic future for the Middle East.WALLACE: Secretary Rice, as you well know, secretaries of state over the years, going back to Henry Kissinger, have in this kind of a situation gone to the region themselves, engaged in personal shuttle diplomacy to try to work out some kind of deal.Any thoughts on your part about going directly personally to the region and, if not, why not?RICE: Well, I'm thinking about it, as you might imagine, and assessing it every day, Chris. And I certainly stand ready to do so when I believe that I can make a difference.But it's also important to recognize that others have a role to play here. We have a U.N. mission that is in the region on behalf of Secretary General Kofi Annan. That was an idea that came out of conversations that we had with the secretary general.We have also the regional states that are playing a very important role. The G8 here is discussing ways ahead. We first need a way ahead. Let's recognize that simply going in and shuttling back and forth, if you don't know where you're trying to go, is not going to help.And we are working and discussing with others what kind of framework would really allow us not just to get out of the immediate crisis, as important as that is, but also to lay a foundation so that we don't have continual further crises, because I just want to repeat a cessation of violence is crucial, but if that cessation of violence is hostage to Hezbollah's next decision to launch missiles into Israel or Hamas' next decision to abduct an Israeli citizen, then we will have gotten nowhere.WALLACE: Secretary Rice, I want to read you what our very own Bill Kristol has written in the latest issue of The Weekly Standard about the way that the U.S. has handled Syria and Iran. And let's put it up on the screen, if we can."We have done a poor job of standing up to them," meaning Iran and Syria, "and weakening them. They are now testing us more boldly than one would have thought possible a few years ago. Weakness is provocative." In fact, Secretary Rice, have our threats but lack of action emboldened Iran and Syria?RICE: I don't believe by any stretch of the imagination that Iran and Syria misunderstand that the United States and its allies have a different vision for the Middle East than they do. And that's what has them alarmed.That is why they are striking out, because when we succeed in a different kind of Middle East, a Middle East in which you have a stable Iraq that is democratic and multi-religious and pluralistic, when you have a different kind of Middle East in which you have a Lebanon, as it is now, devoid of Syrian forces but, in fact, stable and democratic, it's going to be a different kind of Middle East.When you have a two-state solution with Palestinians and Israelis living side by side, it's going to be a different kind of Middle East, and it's going to be a Middle East, by the way, in which there is no room for the kind of extremism that Syria and Iran represent.That's why they're striking out. It's not a matter of weakness. It's a matter that they believe we're going to succeed and they're determined to stop it. We're determined that they won't.WALLACE: Secretary rice, I certainly agree that no one in that area doubts our vision. The question is whether or not they doubt our will and our resolve to enforce, if you will, that vision. You were on our show, on this show, on June 4th...RICE: Well, Chris, let me just yes. But, Chris, I have to answer that point because, of course, if we do not have the will, then they will succeed.But the president of the United States has made very clear that this is the work of a generation. What happened to us on September 11th showed the American people that we have to have a different kind of Middle East, and we're determined to have a different kind of Middle East.And it's hard work, and sometimes it's violent, and sometimes it is difficult. And unfortunately, we lose American life in bringing about that different kind of Middle East.WALLACE: You were on the show back on June 4th, and I asked you at that time how long Iran had to respond to the offer that had been made to the west, both carrots and sticks, for them to stop their nuclear program.Let's listen to what you had to say at that time. Here it is.(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)RICE: I think it's fair to say that we really do have to have this settled over a matter of weeks, not months.(END VIDEO CLIP)WALLACE: Secretary Rice, that was six weeks ago. Iran still says that it won't meet any deadline, and we are now going to the U.N. Security Council to ask them once again to stop their nuclear program. Is that, in fact, a show of strength?RICE: Chris, I believe I said weeks, not months, and we would make a decision as to whether or not we were on the negotiating track or whether or not we were going to the Security Council. We made that decision in Paris and, in fact, we're on our way back to the Security Council.I think you will see a resolution that makes mandatory the Iranian suspension, and we will see whether or not the Iranians, indeed, recognize how isolated they are. They are completely isolated now. The Security Council is going back to work, and that happened in a matter of weeks, not months.WALLACE: One final question. We have a couple of minutes left, Secretary Rice. The U.N. Security Council yesterday passed a resolution condemning North Korea's launch of those seven missiles on the 4th of July, but the U.S. had to back down on its call for any reference to Chapter 7, which would make any kind of resolution of that sort enforceable by military action.And in fact, North Korea now has rejected the measure and they say that they are going to boost their, quote, deterrent. In fact, do you see any chance that this resolution is going to change North Korea's behavior?RICE: Well, first of all, this is the first resolution, Chris, since 1993 on North Korea, and the Chinese voted affirmatively for a resolution that demands that North Korea stop its activities that are jeopardizing international peace and security.The Chinese voted affirmatively with the rest of the Security Council to require member states to take steps to prevent North Korea from obtaining dangerous materials. This is a very strong resolution. It is binding on member states.And it says to the North Koreans you're isolated, come back to the six-party talks. Now, I'm not surprised that the first reaction of the North Koreans is to reject it. That's the way that the North Koreans are.But they've got to be a little surprised at the strength of the resolution. They've got to be a little surprised that the unity of the community was maintained.And by the way, we are, of course, engaged in other activities outside the Security Council, including checking illicit activities of North Korea through financial measures, through a proliferation security initiative denying North Korea certain kinds of materials, and we're going to continue to do those, too.And North Korea, of course, is not confused about the security balance on the Korean peninsula. We have a strong deterrent force there. We have strong alliances with South Korea and with Japan, and we'll continue to pursue those as well.WALLACE: Secretary rice, we want to thank you so much for joining us in the middle of the G-8 summit. We're going to let you go back to work. Have a successful summit and safe travels.U.S. President George W. Bush, far left, sits a chair during his bilateral meeting with Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, unseen, at the G8 summit in St. Petersburg, Russia, Monday, July 17, 2006. Sitting with Bush are members of his staff from right to left, White House Spokesman Tony Snow, White House Counselor Dan Bartlett, U.S. National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley, U.S. Trade Representative Sue Schwab, White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolton, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and an unidentified interpreter. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)U.S. President George W. Bush, center right, and Chinese President Hu Jintao, center left, during their bilateral meeting at the G8 summit in St. Petersburg, Russia, Sunday, July 16, 2006. Seated around them from left to right, Li Zhaoxing, Chinese Foreign Minister, Tang Jiaxuan, Chinese State Counselor, and Fei Shengchao, interperter for the meeting, and U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.(AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice listens as US President George W. Bush speaks during a bilateral meeting with British Prime Minister Tony Blair at the G8 Summit in St.Petersburg, Russia, Sunday July 16, 2006.(AP Photo/Kirsty Wigglesworth)Russian President Vladimir Putin, right, U.S. President George W. Bush, left, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, right background, and Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov, left background, ride in an electric motor car at the G8 summit site in St.Petersburg, Russia, Saturday, July 15, 2006. (AP Photo/ITAR-TASS, Dmitry Astakhov, Presidential Press Service)US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice (L) and Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov listen as Presidents George W. Bush and Vladimir Putin conduct a joint press conference in Saint Petersburg. Ivanov has warned of a "real threat" that the Middle East crisis could drag other countries in the region into the conflict.(AFP/Paul J. Richards)U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice (L) looks over a document with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov following a joint news conference by U.S. President George W. Bush and Russian President Vladimir Putin in St Petersburg, Russia, July 15, 2006. REUTERS/Jason Reed (RUSSIA)U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, right, reads over a note after taking her seat before the start of the joint news conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin and U.S. President George W. Bush at the G8 Summit in St. Petersburg, Russia, Saturday, July 15, 2006. Seated next to Rice are from left to right, Russian National Security Advisor Igor Ivanov, U.S. National Security Advisor Steve Hadley, and behind her are White House Counselor Dan Barlett, left, and White House Chief of Staff, Joshua Bolton. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, front, walks into a media conference of U.S. President George W. Bush at the G8 summit site in St.Petersburg, Russia, Saturday, July 15, 2006. World leaders tore up a carefully prepared summit agenda Saturday to turn their attention to a growing crisis in the Middle East. Standing rear left is Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov. (AP Photo/Alexander Zemlianichenko)
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- It sure does look like the Bush administration is grooming Condi as
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On 7/17/06, Peter Dow <peterdow@...> wrote:
> Interestingly, Condi attended this year's G8 in St Petersburg, Russia - whereas at last year's G8, in Gleneagles, Scotland, she wasn't there - nor, I don't think, were any of the Foreign Secretaries/Ministers of G8 countries.