Re: [revelation-list] The Cross and the end of the world
- I think Revelation 5 contains another element that enters directly into the
equation, yet is generally ignored. That is the fact that John alludes to
Jesus "the lion of the tribe of Judah" thus, bringing to mind Genesis 49:10.
It seems to me that in good midrashic form, John is calling his reader's
attention to the fact that the time has come for the scepter to depart from
Judah, because the Lion of Judah is about to take the scepter to himself by
entering into his kingdom (Revelation 11:16f).
This is more than a bit evocative and helpful, since 11:8f depicts the
judgment of the city "where the Lord was slain" i.e. the center of Judah's
sovereignty. There is a changing of world's about to take place. Judah was
about to lose her scepter while the Lion of Judah assumed His.
It was indeed the "end of the world," but it was not cosmological in the
modern sense. It was the soteriological and eschatological climax of
Israel's Old Covenant World.
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From: "Greg Clarke" <gjclarke@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 6:55 PM
Subject: [revelation-list] The Cross and the end of the world
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> > 1. The Revelation may represent several things, but one thing it
> > surely describes is the end of the world....
> My friend and colleague, Peter Bolt, has just delivered the Moore College
> Annual Lectures. He addressed the Gospel of Mark. In one lecture, he spoke
> of the cross as the end of the world--the apocalyptic event which
> reinterprets apocalyptic. This makes a lot of sense of Mark 13, and makes
> integral to the Gospel rather than some sort of interpolation.
> It also fits well with Rev 5 and the slain lamb on the throne. The
> 'slain-ness' of the Lamb has always bothered me--why not a 'risen Lamb' of
> some kind? Peter Bolt's focus on the cross as the apocalyptic event, the
> means by which the king was crowned, seems to help here.
> Thoughts from others?
> Greg Clarke
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- Certainly true, Georg. The lamb isn't seated on the throne, although he is
as near as possible to it--even "in the midst" of it in Rev 7:15. But the
link between the appearance of being slain (ESPHAGMENON) and worthiness to
open the seals is clear (5: 9, 12; ; 13:8). The Lamb's 'slain-ness' seems to
be the key to its power--not its current life. It is this connection between
the death of Jesus (represented metaphorically) and his power to usher in
the Judgement that interests me. His death, rather than his resurrection,
seems to give him worth and power.
Dr G.J. Clarke
Director, Centre for Apologetic Scholarship and Education (CASE)
University of New South Wales
Sydney NSW 2052
Ph. (61 2) 9381 1730
Fax. (61 2) 9381 1909
> From: "Georg S. Adamsen" <georg@...>
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> I think you misunderstand Revelation 5. John sees the lamb hESTHKOS.
> hESTHKOS means that it is standing, which a dead lamb does not do. Moreover,
> it moved or went (or 'came') (v. 7), which a dead lamb does not.
> Dr. Georg S. Adamsen