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the difficulty with Rev. 18:6

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  • Dustin Smith
    On the surface, it seems that Rev. 18:6 is commanding John s audience to (violently) repay Babylon/Rome twofold for her sins. This verse seems to be at odds
    Message 1 of 3 , Sep 10, 2013
      On the surface, it seems that Rev. 18:6 is commanding John's audience to (violently) repay Babylon/Rome twofold for her sins. This verse seems to be at odds with the other commands in the Apocalypse to endure with nonviolent perseverance. 

      Anyone have any insights into Rev. 18:6?

      --
      Dustin Smith
    • George F Somsel
      The first thing to understand is that she does not represent Rome—at least not exclusively.  Babylon represents all earthly realms which oppose God.  Also,
      Message 2 of 3 , Sep 10, 2013
        The first thing to understand is that she does not represent Rome—at least not exclusively.  Babylon represents all earthly realms which oppose God.  Also, I don't think it is urging a violent repayment of Babylon's sins.  Remember that the two-edged sword proceeds from the mouth thus representing the word of God which punishes man's evil deeds.
         
        george
         
        gfsomsel
         
          search for truth, hear truth, learn truth,
         love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
          defend the truth till death.
         
        - Jan Hus
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        From: Dustin Smith <kggospel@...>
        To: revelation-list@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 1:26 PM
        Subject: [revelation-list] the difficulty with Rev. 18:6
         
        On the surface, it seems that Rev. 18:6 is commanding John's audience to (violently) repay Babylon/Rome twofold for her sins. This verse seems to be at odds with the other commands in the Apocalypse to endure with nonviolent perseverance. 

        Anyone have any insights into Rev. 18:6?

        -- Dustin Smith
      • Steve Thompson
        Rev 18:6 has clear verbal allusions to Jeremiah s extended fall-of-Babylon oracles. In Jeremiah, these make repeated use of second-person imperatives as a
        Message 3 of 3 , Sep 10, 2013
          Rev 18:6 has clear verbal allusions to Jeremiah's extended fall-of-Babylon oracles. In Jeremiah, these make repeated use of second-person imperatives as a rhetorical device to heighten the sense of immediacy of Yahweh's impending destruction of Babylon in the following passages: 50:15, 29; 51:10, 12, 27. In some cases the subjects of these imperatives are named; in others, they are indefinite. The overall message of this section of Jeremiah, however, is that Yahweh himself is about to deal with Babylon. 

          Readers of Apoc. 18:6 with an awareness of this Hebrew Bible background would probably understand its two imperatives as serving a similar, rhetorical function. To remove any uncertainty about the identity of the destroyer of Babylon, the Seer names him in 18:20b, 19:2.

          Best wishes,
          Steven Thompson

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