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Re: [revelation-list] Temple measuring

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  • George F Somsel
    With regard to structures in the biblical accounts, when they are spoken of as being measured, it always occurs prior to their construction. This is true of
    Message 1 of 2 , Dec 18, 2007
      With regard to structures in the biblical accounts, when they are spoken of as being measured, it always occurs prior to their construction. This is true of the Tabernacle in the Wilderness, the rebuilding of the Temple following the Exile depicted in Ezekiel. This is even true of the construction of the earth which is set forth in the confrontation between God and Job in Job 38 since the earth is depicted as a building. The measuring of the heavenly prototype preceeds the construction of the earthly antitype. If memory serves, this is also true in other ancient near eastern literature. I don't have the book handy but I seem to recall something either regarding the measuring of the house or its foundation on gem stones in the story of the building of the house by Dumuzi in Thorkild Jacobson The Harps that Once.



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      From: "KennethGentry@..." <KennethGentry@...>
      To: revelation-list@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 4:20:32 PM
      Subject: [revelation-list] Temple measuring

      In a message dated 12/18/2007 8:03:54 AM Eastern Standard Time,
      gfsomsel@yahoo. com writes:

      > My view, however, would differ dramatically from that in that I would take
      > the measuring in Re 11.1-2 to indicate that as far as the narrative is
      > concerned the Temple had not yet been established since measuring is always used to
      > depict the coming construction.

      I don't see how this is necessarily the case for the following reasons:

      (1) This scene appears to function like that in Rev 7 and the marking of the
      144,000. They already exist, but they are being marked for protection (from
      the howling four winds of the earth).

      (2) John is commanded to not measure the outer court because it is for
      destruction. This seems clearly intended to contrast with the positive measuring in
      11:1, thereby indicating measuring is for preservation purposes.

      (3) The leaving out of the outer court for trampling surely implies it
      exists. How else could it be trampled? The whole temple complex is in view: the
      inner naos and the outer courts.

      (4) The measuring in Rev 21:15ff is not for purposes of construction, for the
      the city comes down from heaven fully formed (Rev 21:1) -- as the text
      indicates in stating "the city is laid out" (Rev 21:16).

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