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1255Re: [revelation-list] Rev 20:4 = 1 group or 2 groups?

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  • George F Somsel
    Sep 3, 2013
      I don't think those "beheaded for their testimony to Jesus" reflect John the Baptist but rather St Paul.  Under any dating you wish to choose, Paul would have been martyred by the time the Apocalypse was written.  The OT martyrs are reflected in 13.1-14.5.



       search for truth, hear truth, learn truth,
       love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
       defend the truth till death.

      - Jan Hus

      > From: Moriah Plastics - Jason Coates <jasonnola@...>
      >To: revelation-list@yahoogroups.com
      >Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 7:41 AM
      >Subject: RE: [revelation-list] Rev 20:4 = 1 group or 2 groups?

      >I do remember the idea that there are two sets of martyrs or some ambiguity
      >or extra value inherent here. Perhaps the Greek scholars could explain the
      >word "beheaded" And the use of the word in the NT? Specifically Matt 14 and
      >Mark 6. If St. John the Baptist is alluded to - being the last martyr of the
      >Old Covenant and forerunner of the Chrisy- his beheading most significantly
      >emphasised that perhaps St John is revealing Old Covenant martyrs and their
      >inclusion in the fullness of Covenant.
      >1. The Testimony of Jesus
      >2. The Word of God.
      >- the OT prophets pointing the way - the law and the prophets up to John the
      >Baptiser - the forerunner
      >Are they the same martyrs as under the altar or can they be different or
      >even both?
      >Jason Coates
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