4651Re: [rest-discuss] new REST article
- Nov 5, 2004The more articles explaining REST the better! Thanks for taking the time to
"Overview - The main ideas behind REST are [...]"
The Overview only mentions retrieval of representations.
"REST Characteristics - Clients "pull" resource representations from
There is more to state transfer than retrieval. Clients can 'push' content
to any reachable endpoint.
"No server-side state is used to process the request."
I know what you mean, but this might be a bit confusing for a newcomer.
"Responses can be labeled as "cacheable" so clients know if it is safe to
cache responses for performance reasons. "
Excellent. I always forget to mention this.
"PUT - creates a new resource or modifies an existing resource and typically
returns the resource URL"
I'm not sure the resouce URI is actually returned, since PUT requires the
URI in the incoming request. POST sometimes returns the ID of a newly
The CRUD discussion is a little unclear. PUT is used to set the state of an
identified resource regardless of whether it existed before - sort of like
an UPSERT in the SQL world. And POST is used for both create and update
operations, but the distinction isn't visible in the HTTP. A little more
discussion & comparison/contrast in this area may help some of the audience.
I like the idea of providing a set of Java classes for application
developers - that's an under-served audience in this area.
If you are extremely bored, you might want to look at
http://xml.apache.org/projects/xang/ for an older Java servlet-based
framework for REST based applications (you have to get past some of the
blather and look at the code, I really should dust off that code and
simplify the docs...). But really, for this stuff, once a developer
understands the ideas, the 'framework' is only a very small amount of code.
Also, for a good Java HTTP client library, take a look at Apache's Commons
"REST is not appropriate for stateful applications"
You should also mention that stateful applications are not appropriate for
the Web (or scalability, etc.).
"REST isn't currently preferred over SOAP by major players"
Hmm, I work at a little bookstore in Seattle & we use REST style software
all the time.
Perhaps you meant by major vendors?
----- Original Message -----
From: "R. Mark Volkmann" <mark@...>
To: "Rest List" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 5:19 AM
Subject: [rest-discuss] new REST article
> I wrote an article on REST that includes details on a Java implementation.
> focuses primarily on using REST to build distributed applications that are
> necessarily web apps. I'd be interested in any feedback on it. You can
> it at http://www.ociweb.com/jnb/jnbNov2004.html.
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