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  • Mira Shiva
    Dear Subhash & Abhijit , I am convinced that one of the significant reasons for detiorating Child nutrition ,is the spiralling food prices , Atta , chawal
    Message 1 of 21 , Feb 11, 2007
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        Dear Subhash & Abhijit ,
       I am convinced that one of the significant reasons for detiorating Child nutrition ,is the spiralling food prices , Atta , chawal ,Dals , vegetables besides decreasing purchasing power of many .is it possible to also attempt to assess the number of children born with cleft lipd & spina bifida ,as both have close relationship with FOLIC ACID DEFICIENCy ( besides chemicals in food includingpesticides ,\.
      Regards
      Mira Shiva


      Subhash Mendhapurkar <sutrahp@...> wrote:
      I have just downloaded data for Bihar from NHFS-# and it looks so horrible that the policy makers should have started loosing their sleep.
      Yes, the TFR has gone up from 3.7 to 4 but why?
      Look at the anaemic condition of children - 89% children are anaemic (age 6 -35 months) and the immunization rate in rural Bihar is only 31.1.
      Yes, it also seems that IMR has been lowered from 78 to 62 but is allowing more anaemic chikldren to survive - one wonders.When every alternate woman's body mass Index is beklow normal and every alternate child has stunted growth what is the future? If the future is dark, then why shouldn't people go in for more children with a hope, someone shall last till their death.
      Please do further analysis before we make the presentation in Bihar
      Love
      Subhash mendhapurkar


       
      On 2/10/07, Subhash Mendhapurkar <sutrahp@...> wrote:
      That is good, let us look at NFHS results of Bihar - whter the TFR lowered without the Norm or not?
      Love
      Subhash mendhapurkar

       
      On 10 Feb 2007 06:07:07 -0000, Narendra < narendra531@...> wrote:
      Dear colleagues:

      One of the most commonly cited reasons for which two child norm is imposed is to arrest the growth of population. However, the experience is that it never influences demography. Glaring example is Rajasthan, where this Act. is in force since 1994. The growth rate of Rajasthan was 28.44 during the period 1981-91 and it was 28.33 from 1991 to 2001. So we should build our campaign around this argument besides that the two child norm is anti women and anti poor.

      Best regards.

      Narendra


      On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 Mira Shiva wrote :
      >Dear Abhijit ,
      >    1  Please check out the authenticity of the newspaper report .
      >  If it is true Health Watch UP Bihar , Center for Justice , JSA Bihar , BVHA  jointly must seek an appointment with Bihar Health Minister Bihar . Many politicians act on the advice of the Beaurocats & need to be given other data & informationwhich is usually not available .
      >  If ever I am needed I will be there for solidarity .
      >    2  What could be the implications for the MNGO's be if ever such policies  are put in place . Since PFI or CINI are the RRC they should also  be approached .
      >    3  Ms    Jalaja also needs to be approached ,having worked in NHRC ,she needs no convicing
      >    4In NHA 2 Population issue must be revisited ,along with others .
      >  With regards
      >  mira shiva
      >  Abhijit Das <abhijit@sahayogindia.org> wrote:
      >          Dear Friends,
      >  The Bihar Government is on the verge of announcing a two child norm for PRIs. A newspaper article dated 30.1.2006 is pasted below. Apparently a cabinet decision has also been taken to this effect. We need to stall this before the laws are amended in the Assembly. All suggestions and actions are welcome.
      >  Optimistically,
      >  Abhijit
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >---------------------------------
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    • Abhijit Das
      Dear Subhas Thanks for the lead. Abhijit ... From: Subhash Mendhapurkar To: reprohealth_india@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 1:14 PM
      Message 2 of 21 , Feb 11, 2007
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        Dear Subhas
        Thanks for the lead.
        Abhijit
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 1:14 PM
        Subject: Re: Re: [reprohealth_india] Urgent - Two child norm in Bihar

        I have just downloaded data for Bihar from NHFS-# and it looks so horrible that the policy makers should have started loosing their sleep.
        Yes, the TFR has gone up from 3.7 to 4 but why?
        Look at the anaemic condition of children - 89% children are anaemic (age 6 -35 months) and the immunization rate in rural Bihar is only 31.1.
        Yes, it also seems that IMR has been lowered from 78 to 62 but is allowing more anaemic chikldren to survive - one wonders.When every alternate woman's body mass Index is beklow normal and every alternate child has stunted growth what is the future? If the future is dark, then why shouldn't people go in for more children with a hope, someone shall last till their death.
        Please do further analysis before we make the presentation in Bihar
        Love
        Subhash mendhapurkar


         
        On 2/10/07, Subhash Mendhapurkar <sutrahp@gmail. com> wrote:
        That is good, let us look at NFHS results of Bihar - whter the TFR lowered without the Norm or not?
        Love
        Subhash mendhapurkar

         
        On 10 Feb 2007 06:07:07 -0000, Narendra < narendra531@ rediffmail. com> wrote:

        Dear colleagues:

        One of the most commonly cited reasons for which two child norm is imposed is to arrest the growth of population. However, the experience is that it never influences demography. Glaring example is Rajasthan, where this Act. is in force since 1994. The growth rate of Rajasthan was 28.44 during the period 1981-91 and it was 28.33 from 1991 to 2001. So we should build our campaign around this argument besides that the two child norm is anti women and anti poor.

        Best regards.

        Narendra


        On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 Mira Shiva wrote :
        >Dear Abhijit ,
        >    1  Please check out the authenticity of the newspaper report .
        >  If it is true Health Watch UP Bihar , Center for Justice , JSA Bihar , BVHA  jointly must seek an appointment with Bihar Health Minister Bihar . Many politicians act on the advice of the Beaurocats & need to be given other data & informationwhich is usually not available .
        >  If ever I am needed I will be there for solidarity .
        >    2  What could be the implications for the MNGO's be if ever such policies  are put in place . Since PFI or CINI are the RRC they should also  be approached .
        >    3  Ms    Jalaja also needs to be approached ,having worked in NHRC ,she needs no convicing
        >    4In NHA 2 Population issue must be revisited ,along with others .
        >  With regards
        >  mira shiva
        >  Abhijit Das <abhijit@sahayogindia.org> wrote:
        >          Dear Friends,
        >  The Bihar Government is on the verge of announcing a two child norm for PRIs. A newspaper article dated 30.1.2006 is pasted below. Apparently a cabinet decision has also been taken to this effect. We need to stall this before the laws are amended in the Assembly. All suggestions and actions are welcome.
        >  Optimistically,
        >  Abhijit
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >------------ --------- --------- ---
        >Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.

        Prayas,
        B -8, Bapu Nagar, Senthi,
        Chittorgarh  312 025
        India
        Tel : +91.1472.243788
        Fax : +91.1472.250044
        URL:www.prayaschittor.org





        --
        Subhash Mendhapurkar
        SUTRA Jagjit nagar 173225H.P.



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        Subhash Mendhapurkar
        SUTRA Jagjit nagar 173225H.P.

      • Subhash Mendhapurkar
        Dear Mira, You are more knowledgable than me on this, from where to get the raw data for analysis, guide us. Subhash Mendhapurkar ... -- Subhash Mendhapurkar
        Message 3 of 21 , Feb 12, 2007
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          Dear Mira,
          You are more knowledgable than me on this, from where to get the raw data for analysis, guide us.
          Subhash Mendhapurkar

           
          On 2/11/07, Mira Shiva <mirashiva@...> wrote:

            Dear Subhash & Abhijit ,
           I am convinced that one of the significant reasons for detiorating Child nutrition ,is the spiralling food prices , Atta , chawal ,Dals , vegetables besides decreasing purchasing power of many .is it possible to also attempt to assess the number of children born with cleft lipd & spina bifida ,as both have close relationship with FOLIC ACID DEFICIENCy ( besides chemicals in food includingpesticides ,\.
          Regards
          Mira Shiva


          Subhash Mendhapurkar <sutrahp@...> wrote:
          I have just downloaded data for Bihar from NHFS-# and it looks so horrible that the policy makers should have started loosing their sleep.
          Yes, the TFR has gone up from 3.7 to 4 but why?
          Look at the anaemic condition of children - 89% children are anaemic (age 6 -35 months) and the immunization rate in rural Bihar is only 31.1.
          Yes, it also seems that IMR has been lowered from 78 to 62 but is allowing more anaemic chikldren to survive - one wonders.When every alternate woman's body mass Index is beklow normal and every alternate child has stunted growth what is the future? If the future is dark, then why shouldn't people go in for more children with a hope, someone shall last till their death.
          Please do further analysis before we make the presentation in Bihar
          Love
          Subhash mendhapurkar


           
          On 2/10/07, Subhash Mendhapurkar < sutrahp@...> wrote:
          That is good, let us look at NFHS results of Bihar - whter the TFR lowered without the Norm or not?
          Love
          Subhash mendhapurkar

           
          On 10 Feb 2007 06:07:07 -0000, Narendra < narendra531@...> wrote:
          Dear colleagues:

          One of the most commonly cited reasons for which two child norm is imposed is to arrest the growth of population. However, the experience is that it never influences demography. Glaring example is Rajasthan, where this Act. is in force since 1994. The growth rate of Rajasthan was 28.44 during the period 1981-91 and it was 28.33 from 1991 to 2001. So we should build our campaign around this argument besides that the two child norm is anti women and anti poor.

          Best regards.

          Narendra


          On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 Mira Shiva wrote :
          >Dear Abhijit ,
          >    1  Please check out the authenticity of the newspaper report .
          >  If it is true Health Watch UP Bihar , Center for Justice , JSA Bihar , BVHA  jointly must seek an appointment with Bihar Health Minister Bihar . Many politicians act on the advice of the Beaurocats & need to be given other data & informationwhich is usually not available .
          >  If ever I am needed I will be there for solidarity .
          >    2  What could be the implications for the MNGO's be if ever such policies  are put in place . Since PFI or CINI are the RRC they should also  be approached .
          >    3  Ms    Jalaja also needs to be approached ,having worked in NHRC ,she needs no convicing
          >    4In NHA 2 Population issue must be revisited ,along with others .
          >  With regards
          >  mira shiva
          >  Abhijit Das <abhijit@sahayogindia.org> wrote:
          >          Dear Friends,
          >  The Bihar Government is on the verge of announcing a two child norm for PRIs. A newspaper article dated 30.1.2006 is pasted below. Apparently a cabinet decision has also been taken to this effect. We need to stall this before the laws are amended in the Assembly. All suggestions and actions are welcome.
          >  Optimistically,
          >  Abhijit
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >---------------------------------
          >Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.
          Prayas,
          B -8, Bapu Nagar, Senthi,
          Chittorgarh  312 025
          India
          Tel : +91.1472.243788
          Fax : +91.1472.250044
          URL:www.prayaschittor.org





          --
          Subhash Mendhapurkar
          SUTRA Jagjit nagar 173225H.P.



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        • Dr. Geeta Sodhi
          Abhijit: Can MOHFW not be urged to respond to this? I mean getting key Govt officials to express their views on ? this ? And then the response be made
          Message 4 of 21 , Feb 12, 2007
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            Abhijit: Can MOHFW not be urged to respond to this? I mean getting key Govt officials to express their views on ? this ? And then the response be made available at this forum? ? How about taking this to the media? Someone like Barkha?
             
            Geeta Sodhi
             
            ----- Original Message -----
            Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:28 PM
            Subject: Re: [reprohealth_india] Urgent - Two child norm in Bihar

            needs to be taken up at nha2 abhijit.
            more on this front later.
            in full solidarity on this
            vandana

            --- Abhijit Das <abhijit@sahayogindi a.org> wrote:

            > Dear Mira,
            > That is what we are trying to get done. Healthwatch
            > Forum Bihar is organising a workshop on this issue
            > on 14th and a press conference on the 15th in Patna.
            > Colleagues from UP and I will be going to Patna for
            > this and we hope to draw up a plan of action
            > immediately.
            > Thanks for you support and solidarity. Other ideas
            > are also welcome.
            > Regards,
            > Abhijit
            >
            > ----- Original Message -----
            > From: Mira Shiva
            > To: reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com ; Ena Singh
            > ; Manju Sharma ; Dhanashri Brahme ; sanjay Pandey ;
            > Lester Coutinho
            > Cc: reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com
            > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:42 PM
            > Subject: Re: [reprohealth_ india] Urgent - Two
            > child norm in Bihar
            >
            >
            >
            > Dear Abhijit ,
            > 1 Please check out the authenticity of the
            > newspaper report .
            > If it is true Health Watch UP Bihar , Center for
            > Justice , JSA Bihar , BVHA jointly must seek an
            > appointment with Bihar Health Minister Bihar . Many
            > politicians act on the advice of the Beaurocats &
            > need to be given other data & informationwhich is
            > usually not available .
            > If ever I am needed I will be there for solidarity
            > .
            > 2 What could be the implications for the
            > MNGO's be if ever such policies are put in place .
            > Since PFI or CINI are the RRC they should also be
            > approached .
            > 3 Ms Jalaja also needs to be approached
            > ,having worked in NHRC ,she needs no convicing
            > 4In NHA 2 Population issue must be revisited
            > ,along with others .
            > With regards
            > mira shiva
            > Abhijit Das <abhijit@sahayogindi a.org> wrote:
            > Dear Friends,
            > The Bihar Government is on the verge of
            > announcing a two child norm for PRIs. A newspaper
            > article dated 30.1.2006 is pasted below. Apparently
            > a cabinet decision has also been taken to this
            > effect. We need to stall this before the laws are
            > amended in the Assembly. All suggestions and actions
            > are welcome.
            > Optimistically,
            > Abhijit
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
            > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail
            > beta.
            >
            >

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          • Sindhu Nambiath
              I completely agree with Mr. Narendra...... Rajasthan experience also shows that this also results in increasing number of people resorting to, unsafe
            Message 5 of 21 , Feb 14, 2007
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              I completely agree with Mr. Narendra......

              Rajasthan experience also shows that this also results in increasing number of people resorting to, unsafe abortions as well as pre-birth elimination of girl child in want of a baby boy.

              In solidarity with all the efforts.......

              best wishes

              Sindhu Nambiath
              Associate Fellow
              CSD

              On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 Narendra  wrote :

              >Dear colleagues:
              >
              >One of the most commonly cited reasons for which two child norm is imposed is to arrest the growth of population. However, the experience is that it never influences demography. Glaring example is Rajasthan, where this Act. is in force since 1994. The growth rate of Rajasthan was 28.44 during the period 1981-91 and it was 28.33 from 1991 to 2001. So we should build our campaign around this argument besides that the two child norm is anti women and anti poor.
              >
              >Best regards.
              >
              >Narendra
              >
              >
              >On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 Mira Shiva wrote :
              > >Dear Abhijit ,
              > >    1  Please check out the authenticity of the newspaper report .
              > >  If it is true Health Watch UP Bihar , Center for Justice , JSA Bihar , BVHA  jointly must seek an appointment with Bihar Health Minister Bihar . Many politicians act on the advice of the Beaurocats & need to be given other data & informationwhich is usually not available .
              > >  If ever I am needed I will be there for solidarity .
              > >    2  What could be the implications for the MNGO's be if ever such policies  are put in place . Since PFI or CINI are the RRC they should also  be approached .
              > >    3  Ms    Jalaja also needs to be approached ,having worked in NHRC ,she needs no convicing
              > >    4In NHA 2 Population issue must be revisited ,along with others .
              > >  With regards
              > >  mira shiva
              > >  Abhijit Das <abhijit@...> wrote:
              > >          Dear Friends,
              > >  The Bihar Government is on the verge of announcing a two child norm for PRIs. A newspaper article dated 30.1.2006 is pasted below. Apparently a cabinet decision has also been taken to this effect. We need to stall this before the laws are amended in the Assembly. All suggestions and actions are welcome.
              > >  Optimistically,
              > >  Abhijit
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >---------------------------------
              > >Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.
              >
              >
              >Prayas,
              >B -8, Bapu Nagar, Senthi,
              >Chittorgarh  312 025
              >India
              >Tel : +91.1472.243788
              >Fax : +91.1472.250044
              >URL:www.prayaschittor.org



            • Abhijit Das
              UPDATE FROM PATNA: I was in Patna on the 14th and 15th of February. Health Watch Forum Bihar had a meeting on the 2 child norm and its consequences and decided
              Message 6 of 21 , Feb 16, 2007
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                UPDATE FROM PATNA:
                 
                I was in Patna on the 14th and 15th of February.  
                Health Watch Forum Bihar had a meeting on the 2 child norm and its consequences and decided to take immediate action to get the ordinance repealed. (At present the norm has been introduced through the Model Municipal Ordinance and it will be later extended to the Panchayati Raj Act).
                A delegation of the Health Watch Forum Bihar met the Health Minister and appraised him of the adverse consequences. The Health Minister seemed to grasp the negative impacts, and promised to raise the issue with the Chief Minister. We also met with the Speaker of the Assembly. He was initially of the opinion that the norm was necessary in a poor state like Bihar, but after we made our point that it was not necessarily in the interest of the poor and dalits, he agreed to  participate in a larger public debate on the issue. We also met with the director of ADRI a development research and think tank and shared the adverse impact across the states. He promised to take up the issue once some immediate work he was engaged in was over.
                We also organised a media conference but it was not very well attended.
                A tentative plan of action has been drawn up and a larger meeting with other civil society actors and networks has been planned for the 22nd February
                 
                Abhijit
                 
                 
                ----- Original Message -----
                Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:34 AM
                Subject: Re: [reprohealth_india] Urgent - Two child norm in Bihar

                Abhijit: Can MOHFW not be urged to respond to this? I mean getting key Govt officials to express their views on ? this ? And then the response be made available at this forum? ? How about taking this to the media? Someone like Barkha?
                 
                Geeta Sodhi
                 
                ----- Original Message -----
                Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:28 PM
                Subject: Re: [reprohealth_ india] Urgent - Two child norm in Bihar

                needs to be taken up at nha2 abhijit.
                more on this front later.
                in full solidarity on this
                vandana

                --- Abhijit Das <abhijit@sahayogindi a.org> wrote:

                > Dear Mira,
                > That is what we are trying to get done. Healthwatch
                > Forum Bihar is organising a workshop on this issue
                > on 14th and a press conference on the 15th in Patna.
                > Colleagues from UP and I will be going to Patna for
                > this and we hope to draw up a plan of action
                > immediately.
                > Thanks for you support and solidarity. Other ideas
                > are also welcome.
                > Regards,
                > Abhijit
                >
                > ----- Original Message -----
                > From: Mira Shiva
                > To: reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com ; Ena Singh
                > ; Manju Sharma ; Dhanashri Brahme ; sanjay Pandey ;
                > Lester Coutinho
                > Cc: reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com
                > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:42 PM
                > Subject: Re: [reprohealth_ india] Urgent - Two
                > child norm in Bihar
                >
                >
                >
                > Dear Abhijit ,
                > 1 Please check out the authenticity of the
                > newspaper report .
                > If it is true Health Watch UP Bihar , Center for
                > Justice , JSA Bihar , BVHA jointly must seek an
                > appointment with Bihar Health Minister Bihar . Many
                > politicians act on the advice of the Beaurocats &
                > need to be given other data & informationwhich is
                > usually not available .
                > If ever I am needed I will be there for solidarity
                > .
                > 2 What could be the implications for the
                > MNGO's be if ever such policies are put in place .
                > Since PFI or CINI are the RRC they should also be
                > approached .
                > 3 Ms Jalaja also needs to be approached
                > ,having worked in NHRC ,she needs no convicing
                > 4In NHA 2 Population issue must be revisited
                > ,along with others .
                > With regards
                > mira shiva
                > Abhijit Das <abhijit@sahayogindi a.org> wrote:
                > Dear Friends,
                > The Bihar Government is on the verge of
                > announcing a two child norm for PRIs. A newspaper
                > article dated 30.1.2006 is pasted below. Apparently
                > a cabinet decision has also been taken to this
                > effect. We need to stall this before the laws are
                > amended in the Assembly. All suggestions and actions
                > are welcome.
                > Optimistically,
                > Abhijit
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
                > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail
                > beta.
                >
                >

                ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
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                See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
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              • Jashodhara
                Congratulations to Abhijit and the colleagues in Bihar who responded promptly to the issue. Did anyone volunteer to collect the newspapers on the 16th to scan
                Message 7 of 21 , Feb 16, 2007
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                  Congratulations to Abhijit and the colleagues in Bihar who responded promptly to the issue.

                  Did anyone volunteer to collect the newspapers on the 16th to scan what coverage it received?

                  It would be useful to analyze the media response.

                  Now we all need to mobilize people we know to attend the 22 Feb. meeting.

                  Please inform others where it is being held and what time.

                  Jashodhara


                  From: reprohealth_india@yahoogroups.com [mailto:reprohealth_india@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Abhijit Das
                  Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 10:22 PM
                  To: reprohealth_india@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: Re: [reprohealth_india] Urgent - Two child norm in Bihar

                   

                  UPDATE FROM PATNA :

                   

                  I was in Patna on the 14th and 15th of February.  

                  Health Watch Forum Bihar had a meeting on the 2 child norm and its consequences and decided to take immediate action to get the ordinance repealed. (At present the norm has been introduced through the Model Municipal Ordinance and it will be later extended to the Panchayati Raj Act).

                  A delegation of the Health Watch Forum Bihar met the Health Minister and appraised him of the adverse consequences. The Health Minister seemed to grasp the negative impacts, and promised to raise the issue with the Chief Minister. We also met with the Speaker of the Assembly. He was initially of the opinion that the norm was necessary in a poor state like Bihar , but after we made our point that it was not necessarily in the interest of the poor and dalits, he agreed to  participate in a larger public debate on the issue. We also met with the director of ADRI a development research and think tank and shared the adverse impact across the states. He promised to take up the issue once some immediate work he was engaged in was over.

                  We also organised a media conference but it was not very well attended.

                  A tentative plan of action has been drawn up and a larger meeting with other civil society actors and networks has been planned for the 22nd February

                   

                  Abhijit

                   

                   

                  ----- Original Message -----

                  Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:34 AM

                  Subject: Re: [reprohealth_ india] Urgent - Two child norm in Bihar

                   

                  Abhijit: Can MOHFW not be urged to respond to this? I mean getting key Govt officials to express their views on ? this ? And then the response be made available at this forum? ? How about taking this to the media? Someone like Barkha?

                   

                  Geeta Sodhi

                   

                  ----- Original Message -----

                  Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:28 PM

                  Subject: Re: [reprohealth_ india] Urgent - Two child norm in Bihar

                   

                  needs to be taken up at nha2 abhijit.
                  more on this front later.
                  in full solidarity on this
                  vandana

                  --- Abhijit Das <abhijit@sahayogindi a.org> wrote:

                  > Dear Mira,
                  > That is what we are trying to get done. Healthwatch
                  > Forum Bihar is organising a workshop on this issue
                  > on 14th and a press conference on the 15th in Patna .
                  > Colleagues from UP and I will be going to Patna for
                  > this and we hope to draw up a plan of action
                  > immediately.
                  > Thanks for you support and solidarity. Other ideas
                  > are also welcome.
                  > Regards,
                  > Abhijit
                  >
                  > ----- Original Message -----
                  > From: Mira Shiva
                  > To: reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com ; Ena Singh
                  > ; Manju Sharma ; Dhanashri Brahme ; sanjay Pandey ;
                  > Lester Coutinho
                  > Cc: reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com
                  > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:42 PM
                  > Subject: Re: [reprohealth_ india] Urgent - Two
                  > child norm in Bihar
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > Dear Abhijit ,
                  > 1 Please check out the authenticity of the
                  > newspaper report .
                  > If it is true Health Watch UP Bihar , Center for
                  > Justice , JSA Bihar , BVHA jointly must seek an
                  > appointment with Bihar Health Minister Bihar . Many
                  > politicians act on the advice of the Beaurocats &
                  > need to be given other data & informationwhich is
                  > usually not available .
                  > If ever I am needed I will be there for solidarity
                  > .
                  > 2 What could be the implications for the
                  > MNGO's be if ever such policies are put in place .
                  > Since PFI or CINI are the RRC they should also be
                  > approached .
                  > 3 Ms Jalaja also needs to be approached
                  > ,having worked in NHRC ,she needs no convicing
                  > 4In NHA 2 Population issue must be revisited
                  > ,along with others .
                  > With regards
                  > mira shiva
                  > Abhijit Das <abhijit@sahayogindi a.org> wrote:
                  > Dear Friends,
                  > The Bihar Government is on the verge of
                  > announcing a two child norm for PRIs. A newspaper
                  > article dated 30.1.2006 is pasted below. Apparently
                  > a cabinet decision has also been taken to this
                  > effect. We need to stall this before the laws are
                  > amended in the Assembly. All suggestions and actions
                  > are welcome.
                  > Optimistically,
                  > Abhijit
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
                  > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail
                  > beta.
                  >
                  >

                  ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
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                  See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
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                • R K Rai
                  Hello, Did some one collect any document i.e. proposed bill or document from government regarding this new norm. Shall be grateful to get the details Rama Kant
                  Message 8 of 21 , Feb 17, 2007
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                    Hello,
                    Did some one collect any document i.e. proposed bill or document from government regarding this new norm. Shall be grateful to get the details
                     
                    Rama Kant Rai
                    ----- Original Message -----
                    Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 10:00 PM
                    Subject: [reprohealth_india] Urgent - Two child norm in Bihar

                    Congratulations to Abhijit and the colleagues in Bihar who responded promptly to the issue.

                    Did anyone volunteer to collect the newspapers on the 16th to scan what coverage it received?

                    It would be useful to analyze the media response.

                    Now we all need to mobilize people we know to attend the 22 Feb. meeting.

                    Please inform others where it is being held and what time.

                    Jashodhara


                    From: reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:reprohealth _india@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Abhijit Das
                    Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 10:22 PM
                    To: reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com
                    Subject: Re: [reprohealth_ india] Urgent - Two child norm in Bihar

                    UPDATE FROM PATNA :

                    I was in Patna on the 14th and 15th of February.  

                    Health Watch Forum Bihar had a meeting on the 2 child norm and its consequences and decided to take immediate action to get the ordinance repealed. (At present the norm has been introduced through the Model Municipal Ordinance and it will be later extended to the Panchayati Raj Act).

                    A delegation of the Health Watch Forum Bihar met the Health Minister and appraised him of the adverse consequences. The Health Minister seemed to grasp the negative impacts, and promised to raise the issue with the Chief Minister. We also met with the Speaker of the Assembly. He was initially of the opinion that the norm was necessary in a poor state like Bihar , but after we made our point that it was not necessarily in the interest of the poor and dalits, he agreed to  participate in a larger public debate on the issue. We also met with the director of ADRI a development research and think tank and shared the adverse impact across the states. He promised to take up the issue once some immediate work he was engaged in was over.

                    We also organised a media conference but it was not very well attended.

                    A tentative plan of action has been drawn up and a larger meeting with other civil society actors and networks has been planned for the 22nd February

                    Abhijit

                    ----- Original Message -----

                    Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:34 AM

                    Subject: Re: [reprohealth_ india] Urgent - Two child norm in Bihar

                    Abhijit: Can MOHFW not be urged to respond to this? I mean getting key Govt officials to express their views on ? this ? And then the response be made available at this forum? ? How about taking this to the media? Someone like Barkha?

                    Geeta Sodhi

                    ----- Original Message -----

                    Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:28 PM

                    Subject: Re: [reprohealth_ india] Urgent - Two child norm in Bihar

                    needs to be taken up at nha2 abhijit.
                    more on this front later.
                    in full solidarity on this
                    vandana

                    --- Abhijit Das <abhijit@sahayogindi a.org> wrote:

                    > Dear Mira,
                    > That is what we are trying to get done. Healthwatch
                    > Forum Bihar is organising a workshop on this issue
                    > on 14th and a press conference on the 15th in Patna .
                    > Colleagues from UP and I will be going to Patna for
                    > this and we hope to draw up a plan of action
                    > immediately.
                    > Thanks for you support and solidarity. Other ideas
                    > are also welcome.
                    > Regards,
                    > Abhijit
                    >
                    > ----- Original Message -----
                    > From: Mira Shiva
                    > To: reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com ; Ena Singh
                    > ; Manju Sharma ; Dhanashri Brahme ; sanjay Pandey ;
                    > Lester Coutinho
                    > Cc: reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com
                    > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:42 PM
                    > Subject: Re: [reprohealth_ india] Urgent - Two
                    > child norm in Bihar
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Dear Abhijit ,
                    > 1 Please check out the authenticity of the
                    > newspaper report .
                    > If it is true Health Watch UP Bihar , Center for
                    > Justice , JSA Bihar , BVHA jointly must seek an
                    > appointment with Bihar Health Minister Bihar . Many
                    > politicians act on the advice of the Beaurocats &
                    > need to be given other data & informationwhich is
                    > usually not available .
                    > If ever I am needed I will be there for solidarity
                    > .
                    > 2 What could be the implications for the
                    > MNGO's be if ever such policies are put in place .
                    > Since PFI or CINI are the RRC they should also be
                    > approached .
                    > 3 Ms Jalaja also needs to be approached
                    > ,having worked in NHRC ,she needs no convicing
                    > 4In NHA 2 Population issue must be revisited
                    > ,along with others .
                    > With regards
                    > mira shiva
                    > Abhijit Das <abhijit@sahayogindi a.org> wrote:
                    > Dear Friends,
                    > The Bihar Government is on the verge of
                    > announcing a two child norm for PRIs. A newspaper
                    > article dated 30.1.2006 is pasted below. Apparently
                    > a cabinet decision has also been taken to this
                    > effect. We need to stall this before the laws are
                    > amended in the Assembly. All suggestions and actions
                    > are welcome.
                    > Optimistically,
                    > Abhijit
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
                    > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail
                    > beta.
                    >
                    >

                    ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
                    Don't pick lemons.
                    See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
                    http://autos. yahoo.com/ new_cars. html

                  • Narendra
                    Great Abhijit. Keep it on. Do let me know if we can do anything from this end like writing letters etc.Best.NarendraOn Fri, 16 Feb 2007 Abhijit Das
                    Message 9 of 21 , Feb 18, 2007
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                      Great Abhijit. Keep it on. Do let me know if we can do anything from this end like writing letters etc.

                      Best.

                      Narendra


                      On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 Abhijit Das wrote :

                      >UPDATE FROM PATNA:
                      >
                      >I was in Patna on the 14th and 15th of February.
                      >Health Watch Forum Bihar had a meeting on the 2 child norm and its consequences and decided to take immediate action to get the ordinance repealed. (At present the norm has been introduced through the Model Municipal Ordinance and it will be later extended to the Panchayati Raj Act).
                      >A delegation of the Health Watch Forum Bihar met the Health Minister and appraised him of the adverse consequences. The Health Minister seemed to grasp the negative impacts, and promised to raise the issue with the Chief Minister. We also met with the Speaker of the Assembly. He was initially of the opinion that the norm was necessary in a poor state like Bihar, but after we made our point that it was not necessarily in the interest of the poor and dalits, he agreed to  participate in a larger public debate on the issue. We also met with the director of ADRI a development research and think tank and shared the adverse impact across the states. He promised to take up the issue once some immediate work he was engaged in was over.
                      >We also organised a media conference but it was not very well attended.
                      >A tentative plan of action has been drawn up and a larger meeting with other civil society actors and networks has been planned for the 22nd February
                      >
                      >Abhijit
                      >
                      >
                      >  ----- Original Message -----
                      >  From: Dr. Geeta Sodhi
                      >  To: reprohealth_india@yahoogroups.com
                      >  Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:34 AM
                      >  Subject: Re: [reprohealth_india] Urgent - Two child norm in Bihar
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >  Abhijit: Can MOHFW not be urged to respond to this? I mean getting key Govt officials to express their views on ? this ? And then the response be made available at this forum? ? How about taking this to the media? Someone like Barkha?
                      >
                      >  Geeta Sodhi
                      >
                      >    ----- Original Message -----
                      >    From: Vandana Prasad
                      >    To: reprohealth_india@yahoogroups.com
                      >    Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:28 PM
                      >    Subject: Re: [reprohealth_india] Urgent - Two child norm in Bihar
                      >
                      >
                      >    needs to be taken up at nha2 abhijit.
                      >    more on this front later.
                      >    in full solidarity on this
                      >    vandana
                      >
                      >    --- Abhijit Das <abhijit@...> wrote:
                      >
                      >    > Dear Mira,
                      >    > That is what we are trying to get done. Healthwatch
                      >    > Forum Bihar is organising a workshop on this issue
                      >    > on 14th and a press conference on the 15th in Patna.
                      >    > Colleagues from UP and I will be going to Patna for
                      >    > this and we hope to draw up a plan of action
                      >    > immediately.
                      >    > Thanks for you support and solidarity. Other ideas
                      >    > are also welcome.
                      >    > Regards,
                      >    > Abhijit
                      >    >
                      >    > ----- Original Message -----
                      >    > From: Mira Shiva
                      >    > To: reprohealth_india@yahoogroups.com ; Ena Singh
                      >    > ; Manju Sharma ; Dhanashri Brahme ; sanjay Pandey ;
                      >    > Lester Coutinho
                      >    > Cc: reprohealth_india@yahoogroups.com
                      >    > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:42 PM
                      >    > Subject: Re: [reprohealth_india] Urgent - Two
                      >    > child norm in Bihar
                      >    >
                      >    >
                      >    >
                      >    > Dear Abhijit ,
                      >    > 1 Please check out the authenticity of the
                      >    > newspaper report .
                      >    > If it is true Health Watch UP Bihar , Center for
                      >    > Justice , JSA Bihar , BVHA jointly must seek an
                      >    > appointment with Bihar Health Minister Bihar . Many
                      >    > politicians act on the advice of the Beaurocats &
                      >    > need to be given other data & informationwhich is
                      >    > usually not available .
                      >    > If ever I am needed I will be there for solidarity
                      >    > .
                      >    > 2 What could be the implications for the
                      >    > MNGO's be if ever such policies are put in place .
                      >    > Since PFI or CINI are the RRC they should also be
                      >    > approached .
                      >    > 3 Ms Jalaja also needs to be approached
                      >    > ,having worked in NHRC ,she needs no convicing
                      >    > 4In NHA 2 Population issue must be revisited
                      >    > ,along with others .
                      >    > With regards
                      >    > mira shiva
                      >    > Abhijit Das <abhijit@...> wrote:
                      >    > Dear Friends,
                      >    > The Bihar Government is on the verge of
                      >    > announcing a two child norm for PRIs. A newspaper
                      >    > article dated 30.1.2006 is pasted below. Apparently
                      >    > a cabinet decision has also been taken to this
                      >    > effect. We need to stall this before the laws are
                      >    > amended in the Assembly. All suggestions and actions
                      >    > are welcome.
                      >    > Optimistically,
                      >    > Abhijit
                      >    >
                      >    >
                      >    >
                      >    >
                      >    >
                      >    >
                      >    >
                      >    ----------------------------------------------------------
                      >    > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail
                      >    > beta.
                      >    >
                      >    >
                      >
                      >    __________________________________________________________
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                      >    See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
                      >    http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html
                      >
                      >
                      >

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                    • Sreela Das Gupta
                      Abhijit ~ this is wonderful news. I am sure you have all fronts covered but if you need some of our networks/partners/friends in Bihar to be contacted for the
                      Message 10 of 21 , Feb 18, 2007
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                        Abhijit ~ this is wonderful news. I am sure you have all fronts covered but if you need some of our networks/partners/friends in Bihar to be contacted for the 22nd and beyond, please do let me know.
                        Good luck!
                        Sreela

                        ________________________________

                        From: reprohealth_india@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Abhijit Das
                        Sent: Fri 2/16/2007 11:51 AM
                        To: reprohealth_india@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: Re: [reprohealth_india] Urgent - Two child norm in Bihar



                        UPDATE FROM PATNA:

                        I was in Patna on the 14th and 15th of February.
                        Health Watch Forum Bihar had a meeting on the 2 child norm and its consequences and decided to take immediate action to get the ordinance repealed. (At present the norm has been introduced through the Model Municipal Ordinance and it will be later extended to the Panchayati Raj Act).
                        A delegation of the Health Watch Forum Bihar met the Health Minister and appraised him of the adverse consequences. The Health Minister seemed to grasp the negative impacts, and promised to raise the issue with the Chief Minister. We also met with the Speaker of the Assembly. He was initially of the opinion that the norm was necessary in a poor state like Bihar, but after we made our point that it was not necessarily in the interest of the poor and dalits, he agreed to participate in a larger public debate on the issue. We also met with the director of ADRI a development research and think tank and shared the adverse impact across the states. He promised to take up the issue once some immediate work he was engaged in was over.
                        We also organised a media conference but it was not very well attended.
                        A tentative plan of action has been drawn up and a larger meeting with other civil society actors and networks has been planned for the 22nd February

                        Abhijit



                        ----- Original Message -----
                        From: Dr. Geeta Sodhi <mailto:gsodhi@...>
                        To: reprohealth_india@yahoogroups.com <mailto:reprohealth_india@yahoogroups.com>
                        Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:34 AM
                        Subject: Re: [reprohealth_india] Urgent - Two child norm in Bihar



                        Abhijit: Can MOHFW not be urged to respond to this? I mean getting key Govt officials to express their views on ? this ? And then the response be made available at this forum? ? How about taking this to the media? Someone like Barkha?

                        Geeta Sodhi


                        ----- Original Message -----
                        From: Vandana Prasad <mailto:chaukhat@...>
                        To: reprohealth_india@yahoogroups.com <mailto:reprohealth_india@yahoogroups.com>
                        Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:28 PM
                        Subject: Re: [reprohealth_india] Urgent - Two child norm in Bihar


                        needs to be taken up at nha2 abhijit.
                        more on this front later.
                        in full solidarity on this
                        vandana

                        --- Abhijit Das <abhijit@... <mailto:abhijit@...> > wrote:

                        > Dear Mira,
                        > That is what we are trying to get done. Healthwatch
                        > Forum Bihar is organising a workshop on this issue
                        > on 14th and a press conference on the 15th in Patna.
                        > Colleagues from UP and I will be going to Patna for
                        > this and we hope to draw up a plan of action
                        > immediately.
                        > Thanks for you support and solidarity. Other ideas
                        > are also welcome.
                        > Regards,
                        > Abhijit
                        >
                        > ----- Original Message -----
                        > From: Mira Shiva
                        > To: reprohealth_india@yahoogroups.com <mailto:reprohealth_india%40yahoogroups.com> ; Ena Singh
                        > ; Manju Sharma ; Dhanashri Brahme ; sanjay Pandey ;
                        > Lester Coutinho
                        > Cc: reprohealth_india@yahoogroups.com <mailto:reprohealth_india%40yahoogroups.com>
                        > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:42 PM
                        > Subject: Re: [reprohealth_india] Urgent - Two
                        > child norm in Bihar
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > Dear Abhijit ,
                        > 1 Please check out the authenticity of the
                        > newspaper report .
                        > If it is true Health Watch UP Bihar , Center for
                        > Justice , JSA Bihar , BVHA jointly must seek an
                        > appointment with Bihar Health Minister Bihar . Many
                        > politicians act on the advice of the Beaurocats &
                        > need to be given other data & informationwhich is
                        > usually not available .
                        > If ever I am needed I will be there for solidarity
                        > .
                        > 2 What could be the implications for the
                        > MNGO's be if ever such policies are put in place .
                        > Since PFI or CINI are the RRC they should also be
                        > approached .
                        > 3 Ms Jalaja also needs to be approached
                        > ,having worked in NHRC ,she needs no convicing
                        > 4In NHA 2 Population issue must be revisited
                        > ,along with others .
                        > With regards
                        > mira shiva
                        > Abhijit Das <abhijit@... <mailto:abhijit%40sahayogindia.org> > wrote:
                        > Dear Friends,
                        > The Bihar Government is on the verge of
                        > announcing a two child norm for PRIs. A newspaper
                        > article dated 30.1.2006 is pasted below. Apparently
                        > a cabinet decision has also been taken to this
                        > effect. We need to stall this before the laws are
                        > amended in the Assembly. All suggestions and actions
                        > are welcome.
                        > Optimistically,
                        > Abhijit
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
                        > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail
                        > beta.
                        >
                        >

                        __________________________________________________________
                        Don't pick lemons.
                        See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
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                      • Abhijit Das
                        Dear Sreela, That will be great. We are meeting most probably at the BVHA premises at 2.30, please send the word around. Thanks, Abhijit ... From: Sreela Das
                        Message 11 of 21 , Feb 18, 2007
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                          Dear Sreela,
                          That will be great. We are meeting most probably at the BVHA premises at 2.30, please send the word around.
                          Thanks,
                          Abhijit
                          ----- Original Message -----
                          Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:11 AM
                          Subject: RE: [reprohealth_india] Urgent - Two child norm in Bihar

                          Abhijit ~ this is wonderful news. I am sure you have all fronts covered but if you need some of our networks/partners/ friends in Bihar to be contacted for the 22nd and beyond, please do let me know.
                          Good luck!
                          Sreela

                          ____________ _________ _________ __

                          From: reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com on behalf of Abhijit Das
                          Sent: Fri 2/16/2007 11:51 AM
                          To: reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com
                          Subject: Re: [reprohealth_ india] Urgent - Two child norm in Bihar

                          UPDATE FROM PATNA:

                          I was in Patna on the 14th and 15th of February.
                          Health Watch Forum Bihar had a meeting on the 2 child norm and its consequences and decided to take immediate action to get the ordinance repealed. (At present the norm has been introduced through the Model Municipal Ordinance and it will be later extended to the Panchayati Raj Act).
                          A delegation of the Health Watch Forum Bihar met the Health Minister and appraised him of the adverse consequences. The Health Minister seemed to grasp the negative impacts, and promised to raise the issue with the Chief Minister. We also met with the Speaker of the Assembly. He was initially of the opinion that the norm was necessary in a poor state like Bihar, but after we made our point that it was not necessarily in the interest of the poor and dalits, he agreed to participate in a larger public debate on the issue. We also met with the director of ADRI a development research and think tank and shared the adverse impact across the states. He promised to take up the issue once some immediate work he was engaged in was over.
                          We also organised a media conference but it was not very well attended.
                          A tentative plan of action has been drawn up and a larger meeting with other civil society actors and networks has been planned for the 22nd February

                          Abhijit



                          ----- Original Message -----
                          From: Dr. Geeta Sodhi <mailto:gsodhi@vsnl. com>
                          To: reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com <mailto:reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com>
                          Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:34 AM
                          Subject: Re: [reprohealth_ india] Urgent - Two child norm in Bihar


                          Abhijit: Can MOHFW not be urged to respond to this? I mean getting key Govt officials to express their views on ? this ? And then the response be made available at this forum? ? How about taking this to the media? Someone like Barkha?

                          Geeta Sodhi


                          ----- Original Message -----
                          From: Vandana Prasad <mailto:chaukhat@yahoo. com>
                          To: reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com <mailto:reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com>
                          Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:28 PM
                          Subject: Re: [reprohealth_ india] Urgent - Two child norm in Bihar

                          needs to be taken up at nha2 abhijit.
                          more on this front later.
                          in full solidarity on this
                          vandana

                          --- Abhijit Das <abhijit@sahayogindi a.org <mailto:abhijit@sahayogindi a.org> > wrote:

                          > Dear Mira,
                          > That is what we are trying to get done. Healthwatch
                          > Forum Bihar is organising a workshop on this issue
                          > on 14th and a press conference on the 15th in Patna.
                          > Colleagues from UP and I will be going to Patna for
                          > this and we hope to draw up a plan of action
                          > immediately.
                          > Thanks for you support and solidarity. Other ideas
                          > are also welcome.
                          > Regards,
                          > Abhijit
                          >
                          > ----- Original Message -----
                          > From: Mira Shiva
                          > To: reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com <mailto:reprohealth _india%40yahoogr oups.com> ; Ena Singh
                          > ; Manju Sharma ; Dhanashri Brahme ; sanjay Pandey ;
                          > Lester Coutinho
                          > Cc: reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com <mailto:reprohealth _india%40yahoogr oups.com>
                          > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:42 PM
                          > Subject: Re: [reprohealth_ india] Urgent - Two
                          > child norm in Bihar
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > Dear Abhijit ,
                          > 1 Please check out the authenticity of the
                          > newspaper report .
                          > If it is true Health Watch UP Bihar , Center for
                          > Justice , JSA Bihar , BVHA jointly must seek an
                          > appointment with Bihar Health Minister Bihar . Many
                          > politicians act on the advice of the Beaurocats &
                          > need to be given other data & informationwhich is
                          > usually not available .
                          > If ever I am needed I will be there for solidarity
                          > .
                          > 2 What could be the implications for the
                          > MNGO's be if ever such policies are put in place .
                          > Since PFI or CINI are the RRC they should also be
                          > approached .
                          > 3 Ms Jalaja also needs to be approached
                          > ,having worked in NHRC ,she needs no convicing
                          > 4In NHA 2 Population issue must be revisited
                          > ,along with others .
                          > With regards
                          > mira shiva
                          > Abhijit Das <abhijit@sahayogindi a.org <mailto:abhijit% 40sahayogindia. org> > wrote:
                          > Dear Friends,
                          > The Bihar Government is on the verge of
                          > announcing a two child norm for PRIs. A newspaper
                          > article dated 30.1.2006 is pasted below. Apparently
                          > a cabinet decision has also been taken to this
                          > effect. We need to stall this before the laws are
                          > amended in the Assembly. All suggestions and actions
                          > are welcome.
                          > Optimistically,
                          > Abhijit
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
                          > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail
                          > beta.
                          >
                          >

                          ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
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                          See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
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                        • Mira Shiva
                          Dear Abhijit, I wish you meeting goes well . Convey my warm regards to Devika Swapan , Rai Bhai & others .If there is anything I can do do let me know . The
                          Message 12 of 21 , Feb 18, 2007
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                             Dear Abhijit,
                            I wish you meeting goes well . Convey my warm regards to Devika Swapan , Rai Bhai & others .If there is anything I can do do let me know . The State Commission of Women person was a very nice person some years ago , check out .
                            Warm Regards
                            Mira Shiva


                            Abhijit Das <abhijit@...> wrote:
                            Dear Sreela,
                            That will be great. We are meeting most probably at the BVHA premises at 2.30, please send the word around.
                            Thanks,
                            Abhijit
                            ----- Original Message -----
                            Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:11 AM
                            Subject: RE: [reprohealth_india] Urgent - Two child norm in Bihar

                            Abhijit ~ this is wonderful news. I am sure you have all fronts covered but if you need some of our networks/partners/ friends in Bihar to be contacted for the 22nd and beyond, please do let me know.
                            Good luck!
                            Sreela

                            ____________ _________ _________ __

                            From: reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com on behalf of Abhijit Das
                            Sent: Fri 2/16/2007 11:51 AM
                            To: reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com
                            Subject: Re: [reprohealth_ india] Urgent - Two child norm in Bihar

                            UPDATE FROM PATNA:

                            I was in Patna on the 14th and 15th of February.
                            Health Watch Forum Bihar had a meeting on the 2 child norm and its consequences and decided to take immediate action to get the ordinance repealed. (At present the norm has been introduced through the Model Municipal Ordinance and it will be later extended to the Panchayati Raj Act).
                            A delegation of the Health Watch Forum Bihar met the Health Minister and appraised him of the adverse consequences. The Health Minister seemed to grasp the negative impacts, and promised to raise the issue with the Chief Minister. We also met with the Speaker of the Assembly. He was initially of the opinion that the norm was necessary in a poor state like Bihar, but after we made our point that it was not necessarily in the interest of the poor and dalits, he agreed to participate in a larger public debate on the issue. We also met with the director of ADRI a development research and think tank and shared the adverse impact across the states. He promised to take up the issue once some immediate work he was engaged in was over.
                            We also organised a media conference but it was not very well attended.
                            A tentative plan of action has been drawn up and a larger meeting with other civil society actors and networks has been planned for the 22nd February

                            Abhijit



                            ----- Original Message -----
                            From: Dr. Geeta Sodhi <mailto:gsodhi@vsnl. com>
                            To: reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com <mailto:reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com>
                            Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:34 AM
                            Subject: Re: [reprohealth_ india] Urgent - Two child norm in Bihar


                            Abhijit: Can MOHFW not be urged to respond to this? I mean getting key Govt officials to express their views on ? this ? And then the response be made available at this forum? ? How about taking this to the media? Someone like Barkha?

                            Geeta Sodhi


                            ----- Original Message -----
                            From: Vandana Prasad <mailto:chaukhat@yahoo. com>
                            To: reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com <mailto:reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com>
                            Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:28 PM
                            Subject: Re: [reprohealth_ india] Urgent - Two child norm in Bihar

                            needs to be taken up at nha2 abhijit.
                            more on this front later.
                            in full solidarity on this
                            vandana

                            --- Abhijit Das <abhijit@sahayogindi a.org <mailto:abhijit@sahayogindi a.org> > wrote:

                            > Dear Mira,
                            > That is what we are trying to get done. Healthwatch
                            > Forum Bihar is organising a workshop on this issue
                            > on 14th and a press conference on the 15th in Patna.
                            > Colleagues from UP and I will be going to Patna for
                            > this and we hope to draw up a plan of action
                            > immediately.
                            > Thanks for you support and solidarity. Other ideas
                            > are also welcome.
                            > Regards,
                            > Abhijit
                            >
                            > ----- Original Message -----
                            > From: Mira Shiva
                            > To: reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com <mailto:reprohealth _india%40yahoogr oups.com> ; Ena Singh
                            > ; Manju Sharma ; Dhanashri Brahme ; sanjay Pandey ;
                            > Lester Coutinho
                            > Cc: reprohealth_ india@yahoogroup s.com <mailto:reprohealth _india%40yahoogr oups.com>
                            > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:42 PM
                            > Subject: Re: [reprohealth_ india] Urgent - Two
                            > child norm in Bihar
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > Dear Abhijit ,
                            > 1 Please check out the authenticity of the
                            > newspaper report .
                            > If it is true Health Watch UP Bihar , Center for
                            > Justice , JSA Bihar , BVHA jointly must seek an
                            > appointment with Bihar Health Minister Bihar . Many
                            > politicians act on the advice of the Beaurocats &
                            > need to be given other data & informationwhich is
                            > usually not available .
                            > If ever I am needed I will be there for solidarity
                            > .
                            > 2 What could be the implications for the
                            > MNGO's be if ever such policies are put in place .
                            > Since PFI or CINI are the RRC they should also be
                            > approached .
                            > 3 Ms Jalaja also needs to be approached
                            > ,having worked in NHRC ,she needs no convicing
                            > 4In NHA 2 Population issue must be revisited
                            > ,along with others .
                            > With regards
                            > mira shiva
                            > Abhijit Das <abhijit@sahayogindi a.org <mailto:abhijit% 40sahayogindia. org> > wrote:
                            > Dear Friends,
                            > The Bihar Government is on the verge of
                            > announcing a two child norm for PRIs. A newspaper
                            > article dated 30.1.2006 is pasted below. Apparently
                            > a cabinet decision has also been taken to this
                            > effect. We need to stall this before the laws are
                            > amended in the Assembly. All suggestions and actions
                            > are welcome.
                            > Optimistically,
                            > Abhijit
                            >
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