Approaching God (Mormonism - D&C 121:34-46 & King Follett Discourse)
- Subject: Re: [shulemna] Priesthood & stuff (was: Mom Eve-Ross LeBaron
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 21:49:46 PST
>From: (Randall D Shortridge)as
>I have been asking for a long time what priesthood is. Some say that
>We have it naturally, others that it has to be bestowed. I thought
>that it goes much beyond "the authority to act in the name of God"
>the LDS position. As Eve points out, there are those who claim theI suspect that PH is a LOT like spirit, truth, light, intelligence,
>proper line of authority, but the fruits aren't there.
>It made more sense that priesthood is more that something that is
etc... They ALL are descriptions of the same EXACT thing. We've been
given the 'complex set of attributes' in the separate, singular forms
so we might understand the detailed nature of Godliness. If we say
light, then we are also speaking of truth. If we say truth, then we
are also speaking of spirit, etc.... D&C 84:45.
The pure love of Christ and Charity are the same thing; The nature
(mysteries) of Godliness contains the EXACT same attributes as
Charity; Priesthood has the EXACT same attributes as Charity; The
Powers of Heaven are inseparably connected to the rights of the PH.
Why ? Because they are ALL describing the SAME EXACT thing.
We are taught the individual attribute in hopes we will become
congruent to ALL of them. If we can accomplish this, then we BEcome
even as God is for we are like Him. We see Him as He really is, and
KNOW even as we are known.
If one wants PH, they can have it. They will lose it as soon as they
behave incongruently; not because Father takes it away, but because
FALL away from it.
Family requires no 'Priesthood' because it is the epitome of service
unto others. In family this goes on automatically, but outside the
family, it is necessary to be 'elected/called/chosen' as a
representative of the entire family; for those who have no Family
needs be served that they might come to an understanding they once
were part of the Family, and choose to come home in glory.
The title, 'God', is only a title of those who are a part of the
'Priesthood' is only the title of POWER inherent in ALL of us as part
of the family, but is USED outside the family in order to cause the
family to BEcome whole again-- conversion to the gospel to enter back
into the Royal Family-- hence, the 'new and everlasting covenant' IS
the EXACT same thing as entering into Father's 'REST'; The 'WORK' of
the Son is the WORK of My Father: To bring to pass the immortality of
Father's children so that they may procreate AS Gods, and ALL may
eternal life, for IN THEE (that is, in thy PH) and IN THY SEED (that
is, the literal seed of the body) is THE WORK/REST of the Father
advanced so ALL His children may advance unto Godhood, as well as
escape the Fall from the Family.
I'm still working at becoming eloquent at speaking these
understandings without convoluting them, but sufficeth it to say I
have managed to sprawl it out on the floor to see.
Blayne once said (more than once) that we couldn't build Zion because
we don't comprehend what Zion was REALLY like-- that Zion was a NEW
and glorious thing. I told him we DO understand what Zion was like,
just had to look in the right spots for we had been commanded to
into it, therefore there MUST be a way prepared. Then, I saw Zion
EVERYWHERE in the sticks, but it wasn't clear until I was ready to
Loriann has said we don't know what the work of the Father is, but we
anxiously await such a NEW and glorious thing. Father's work is no
less than the work of the Son, for He told us plainly that He was
doing the work of His Father-- Hence, the NEW and everlasting
In all cases, the NEW thing looked forward too has already been
"Moses plainly taught it to the children of Israel while in the
wilderness." though it has existed even since Adam until now. It has
not been piecemealed to us by degrees. Indeed the fullness of the
Gospel exists even if we are just awakening to its presence before
It has never gone away, we have just rejected it even as ancient
The PH and the nature of Godliness is treated EXACTLY the same. We
look past the mark thinking it is something WE have never considered.
We have considered it; we've gathered here FOR it; we comprehend it
some degree that we can espouse it; we are capable of accomplishing
it; we have the KNOWLEDGE of the commandments to fulfill it both
temporally as well as spiritually.
Yes, PH is a many facetted thing, but since we understand all the
other attributes by other names (that ARE the same as PH), then we
need only to realize (and believe) that these 'other things' are
indeed a separate description the EXACT SAME thing be it called PH,
Godliness, Charity, the Pure Love of Christ, etc....
"By their fruits ye shall know them."
"The fruits of the spirit are (insert attributes of charity)"
"The powers of Heaven are INSEPARABLY CONNECTED with the rights of
"The Kingdom of HEAVEN is within."
"Those who receive this PH were fore-ordained unto it."
"Whoever enter into the first PH, MUST enter into the High PH
"Chose this day whom ye shall serve..."
"Ye can not serve two masters...."
The 'fruits' ARE the attributes.....not the ones we show the world,
but the deep dark secret attributes we are married to. They are what
we are, and shall ever remain, unless we change (repent). Divorce
Babylon within, and escape to Zion.
Out of the complex set of attributes of Charity did Christ operate;
by the power of the PH did Christ operate. The PH is even CALLED
'the Holy Order after the Son of God'; and He said Charity NEVER
faileth. WHY ? (D&C 121:41-end) Because Charity is EXACTLY AS THE PH;
"It had no beginning of days, nor end of years. It had no mother nor
father for it is endless."
WE ARE ENDLESS; WE ARE ETERNAL; WE ARE LIT WITH THE LIGHT
"TRUTH ABOUNDS IN YOU, FOR YE ARE THE TRUTH."
"LIGHT CLEAVETH TO LIGHT...."
FOR YOUR OWN SAKES PEOPLE-- YE ARE GODS. You just need to incarnate
all the attributes (the ones deep inside) to be at a level where your
will and Father's will are ONE so you can CLAIM your rightful
inheritance as part of the Family as a God. This MUST be done
spiritually as well as temporally for one without the other is
incongruence, and fails to fulfill all righteousness.
What we develop here, now, IS what we shall remain. Becoming Gods NOW
is how we fulfill the measure of our creation that we shall carry it
into the eternities "...never more to go out." IOW, doing it 'later'
is a Luciferian lie meant to slack up on being diligent in seeking
after the Kingdom of Heaven while we have been given the chance.
You want to understand the translation/DNA/Adamic coding answer ????
Fine. Ask Absalom, he knows. He will tell you-- "Just BE the God you
already are, and the 'how tos' will FLOW to your understanding
BE a God, and the body WILL follow, and the knowledge about 'how to
it' will be at your feet.
Where did this come from ?? Father. How can I say Father ? Because I
can TASTE it; I can FEEL it; I can apprehend it in my mind; my heart
is being testified to of its place in my life. Yes. I see it. I
If it makes no sense to anyone, I pray it might be shed forth to you
as it is to me now. How wonderful and glorious it is to feast once
again. I miss Father so much, I miss the peace & joy so much. It has
seemed like so long ago, but it was just a moment ago we all came
together to help each other come home.
I could never doubt the sending of one ministering angel, who's name
here is known as Mohonri, who was sent to teach me one single thing
about WHAT the PH is. I hope I just returned the promise.
You are ALL my ministering angels. I love you for all the growth you
allow me, and the liberalness of your paradigms to include things I
myself am sometimes stubborn to acknowledge. Forgive me for my
hardheadedness. I hope Laneshine reads this.
Eleazar ? Are you still awake ? I know I lost Ballater a long time
ago, but to sum it up-- the PH is the exact same thing as ANYTHING
else that contains the same attributes. I hope I've pointed out
of the things with the same attributes to get you feeling/thinking
hard. ; ]
Peace & Love,
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"Gather to Zion and care for one another, or DIE."
-- Jahnihah paraphrasing about 4 bazillion verses in Holy Writ.
- Revelation 1:6 To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by
his blood, and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his
God and Father--to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.
Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first
resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will
be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a