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Re: [regsaudioforum] Re: Dallas Mahler 2

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  • Peter
    As I ve always said, I ve never met a critic (audio, music, film, or litarature) who agrees with me. ________________________________ From: Robert
    Message 1 of 56 , Jan 12, 2013
      As I've always said, "I've never met a critic (audio, music, film, or litarature) who agrees with me.

      From: Robert <regtas43@...>
      To: regsaudioforum@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 12:05 PM
      Subject: [regsaudioforum] Re: Dallas Mahler 2
       
      This is the case: As I have said many times,
      Harry was an excellent editor and allowed
      a lot of freedom of opinion in TAS. I mentioned
      this yet one more time upon his leaving TAS.

      It seems to me important to understand that
      gurus and leaders are not at existing in a vacuum.
      They exist because people follow them.
      It is easy to blame the leaders, but no
      armed force is applied to anyone about
      their audio beliefs. People freely choose
      their viewpoints and the gurus they believe in.

      But YMM is in a sense right. Many people
      in the world are waiting for a guru or a leader
      or a mob to follow. Independent thought is
      a rarity. In audio, no one dies for the errors
      made. In this sense the comparison to political
      figures is misplaced. But the mob psychology is
      I agree somewhat similar.

      As a matter of audio history, YMM has had a long
      good time arguing with HP. YMM was a famous
      figure around TAS in the old days for his
      letters to the editor. It is like Jean Valjean
      and Javert--except that who is who is unclear.
      But long opposition surely exists. It is a TAS
      tradition. I would miss it if it were gone.
      REG

      --- In mailto:regsaudioforum%40yahoogroups.com, "k3ox" wrote:
      >
      > --- In mailto:regsaudioforum%40yahoogroups.com, yipmangmeng@ wrote:
      > >
      > > And like  Mao and the little Red Book or Hitler or any other charismatic speaker, writer, and leader.
      > >
      >
      > And so Godwin's Law kicks in... (wikipedia is your friend).
      >
      > It's a shame when personal bitterness (for whatever the reason) would seem to creep in. But I will point out that the "dogmatic" HP opened up his magazines pages to contrary views as a matter of course. REG, PS, AHC, JV and even YMM himself (as letters to the Editor/comic relief, LOL) among many others were given forum there despite not always toeing the company line, this is not Mao/Hitleresque behavior, in my view.
      >
      > I know this is unsolicited advise, but I would seriously encourage YMM to start his own blog (easy and cheap to do these days) and express his audio philosophy in a positive way rather than just take cheap shots at those who have actually spent the time and effort to express their opinion and put their butts on the line.
      >
      > BTW, this is why I admire REG so much. He invests his time and effort in his TAS writing and here on Yahoo Groups to express his audio philosophy and does not expect fealty in return, allowing a certainly lively exchange of views.
      >
      > Kevin
      >
      > --- In mailto:regsaudioforum%40yahoogroups.com, yipmangmeng@ wrote:
      > >
      > > And like  Mao and the little Red Book or Hitler or any other charismatic speaker, writer, and leader.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > >________________________________
      > > > From: "yipmangmeng@"
      > > >To: "mailto:regsaudioforum%40yahoogroups.com"
      > > >Sent: Friday, 11 January 2013, 19:14
      > > >Subject: Re: [regsaudioforum] Dallas Mahler 2
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > 
      > > >HP and Sid Marks.
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >Yip
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >>________________________________
      > > >> From: Robert
      > > >>To: mailto:regsaudioforum%40yahoogroups.com
      > > >>Sent: Friday, 11 January 2013, 11:41
      > > >>Subject: [regsaudioforum] Dallas Mahler 2
      > > >>
      > > >>
      > > >> 
      > > >>At the risk of belaboring the obvious,
      > > >>this recording really sounds far far
      > > >>more like a real orchestra than the
      > > >>famous Mercury recordings. One really
      > > >>finds it hard to understand how the
      > > >>entire field of High End audio could
      > > >>have been led into admiring those truly
      > > >>awful recordings when beauties such
      > > >>as this one were around and ignored.
      > > >>People are strange.
      > > >>REG
      > > >>
      > > >>
      > > >>
      > > >>
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > >
      >

    • Bomwell, Alan
      Many thanks for this, Jeff! Very helpful indeed! Al From: jeff [mailto:jeffstakehifi@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 02:04 AM To:
      Message 56 of 56 , Jan 17, 2013
        Many thanks for this, Jeff! Very helpful indeed!

        Al

         
        From: jeff [mailto:jeffstakehifi@...]
        Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 02:04 AM
        To: regsaudioforum@yahoogroups.com <regsaudioforum@yahoogroups.com>
        Subject: [regsaudioforum] Re: Dallas Mahler 2
         
         

        Hi Al.

        Looking again at your full spectrum graph, it seems that your system might benefit from increasing the upper limit of Dual Core Correction to 450 Hz.

        In selecting the upper limit of Dual Core Correction is important to choose a frequency which is NOT at a DIP as Dual Core will stitch the corrected level to the uncorrected level at the upper frequency limit of the correction.

        After running the correction to 450 Hz, you could use the Room Analysis feature to produce an on-screen display of both the Before and After Full Range response overlaid on each other.

        Here is the procedure given to me by Tim Ryan of SIMPLFI Audio to get such a measurement. It can be viewed on the Built-in screen OR exported to FREE Room Equalization Wizard (REW) software for analysis on a bigger screen.

        1) Capture the un-corrected FULL Range Response

        a) Press the Orange Bypass button on the remote and ensure the Red ' Bypass Bars ' appear on the screen.

        b) Navigate to the Room Analysis Main menu and press ' OK '.

        c) Select ' Make NEW ' > OK.

        d) Select Channel ( Left, Right or Both ) ... choose ' BOTH ' and press ' OK '.

        e) Select Frequency Range ( 200, 500 Hz or FULL ) ... choose ' FULL ' and press OK.

        f) DC will emit pink noise.... jog the volume until the screen says ' Volume OK ' and press OK.

        g) Dual Core will now sweep the room from 20 Khz down to 15 Hz .... the room should be completely quiet while making this sweep.

        h) When the measurement is done, press OK to Close / Store.

        2) Capture the corrected FULL Range Response

        a) Exit the Room Analysis mode by pressing 'Back' three times until the screen shows the top level INPUT/OUTPUT screen.

        b) Engage the Correction (the two red bars should disappear).

        c) Navigate to the Room Analysis Main menu and press ' OK '.

        d) Select ' SECONDARY ' and press OK.

        e) Dual Core will now sweep the room from 20 Khz down to 15 Hz .... the room should be completely quiet while making this sweep.

        f) When the measurement is done, press OK to Close / Store.

        3) View the FULL RANGE Before / After measurement on the Built-in Screen

        a) Go to Room Analysis.

        b) View USER press OK.

        The Uncorrected response should appear in orange and the Corrected response in black.

        best,
        jeff

        --- In regsaudioforum@yahoogroups.com, "jeff" wrote:
        >
        > Hi Al.
        >
        > Thanks very much for posting that pic! It confirms that you are getting serious correction of peaks, and that the Dual Core is not trying to fill gaps, at least not much. I can see why you said that the bass was tighter.
        >
        > best,
        > jeff
        >
        > --- In regsaudioforum@yahoogroups.com, "Bomwell, Alan" wrote:
        > >
        > > Hi Jeff,
        > >
        > > Here is the before and after photo you requested. It is a screen shot of the both the Sterling plus sub corrected to 220Hz.
        > >
        > > Regards,
        > >
        > > Al
        > >
        >

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