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  • Wilindyo
    ... Ai, merin teke: Atto, manen care i coimas? , maquente i seldo W.
    Message 1 of 12 , Nov 29, 1999
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      Inye, Wilindyo, eteekie:
      >
      > "Atto, manen care i coimas", maquente i seldo."
      >

      Ai, merin teke:

      "Atto, manen care i coimas?", maquente i seldo

      W.
    • Helge K. Fauskanger
      ... Yee! ... [...var Manen naa coimas carna? ...var manen queen care coimas? Subjects are always nice...] Minyave haryalye maure i aira porisalqueva
      Message 2 of 12 , Nov 30, 1999
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        > Ma merilye tyale?

        Yee!

        > "Atto, manen care i coimas", maquente i seldo."

        [...var "Manen naa coimas carna?"...var "manen queen care coimas?" Subjects
        are always nice...]

        "Minyave haryalye maure i aira porisalqueva Valinoorello ya naa varyaina
        muine tarwassen," i atar quente yondoryanna.

        (*Porisalque "flour-grass" - as close as I can come to "corn"...Sindarin
        _iau_ has this meaning, but this is the cognate of Q _yaave_ "fruit".)

        > Man mere teke apa inya?

        Mernelye tece "inye"...

        - Ainon
      • Ales Bican
        ... ** A atarinya, nan masse Valinoore? maquente i titta morifinda wende. Alda
        Message 3 of 12 , Dec 2, 1999
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          "Helge K. Fauskanger" wrote:

          > > "Atto, manen care i coimas", maquente i seldo."
          >
          >
          > "Minyave haryalye maure i aira porisalqueva Valinoorello ya naa varyaina
          > muine tarwassen," i atar quente yondoryanna.
          >
          >

          **"A atarinya, nan masse Valinoore?" maquente i titta morifinda wende.


          Alda
        • Helge K. Fauskanger
          ... varyaina muine tarwassen, i atar quente yondoryanna. ... Alataire pella, i anhaira Nuumesse, quente i atar i wendenna, nan laa haryalme maure lelya
          Message 4 of 12 , Dec 4, 1999
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            > > > "Atto, manen care i coimas", maquente i seldo."
            > >
            > > "Minyave haryalye maure i aira porisalqueva Valinoorello ya naa
            varyaina muine tarwassen," i atar quente yondoryanna.
            > >
            > **"A atarinya, nan masse Valinoore?" maquente i titta morifinda wende.

            "Alataire pella, i anhaira Nuumesse," quente i atar i wendenna, "nan laa
            haryalme maure lelya tanna netien i porisalque, an Noldor mamper erdi yo te
            iire tullente Endoorenna andave yaa, ar sii varyante i porisalque muine
            tarwassen, ve quenten."

            (_Net-_ "get", from the QL.)

            - Ainon
          • Ales Bican
            ... ** Aa Noldor, tane annoole Quendi! quente i titta wende, nan, attonya, mana tyaave harya i coimas, laa amaatienyes tenna sii, ma naas lisse? Alda
            Message 5 of 12 , Dec 4, 1999
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              "Helge K. Fauskanger" wrote:

              > > > > "Atto, manen care i coimas", maquente i seldo."
              > > >
              > > > "Minyave haryalye maure i aira porisalqueva Valinoorello ya naa
              > varyaina muine tarwassen," i atar quente yondoryanna.
              > > >
              > > **"A atarinya, nan masse Valinoore?" maquente i titta morifinda wende.
              >
              > "Alataire pella, i anhaira Nuumesse," quente i atar i wendenna, "nan laa
              > haryalme maure lelya tanna netien i porisalque, an Noldor mamper erdi yo te
              > iire tullente Endoorenna andave yaa, ar sii varyante i porisalque muine
              > tarwassen, ve quenten."
              >

              **"Aa Noldor, tane annoole Quendi!" quente i titta wende, "nan, attonya,
              mana tyaave harya i coimas, laa amaatienyes tenna sii, ma naas lisse?"


              Alda
            • Greg Dyke
              Meeran tertecie (translate) sine quettar. ... Ma naa varya *grow*? ... Mana muine? tarwassen, i atar quente yondoryanna. mana/masse tarwa? ... mana Alataire
              Message 6 of 12 , Dec 6, 1999
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                Meeran tertecie (translate) sine quettar.

                Alda tence:
                >
                > > > > > "Atto, manen care i coimas", maquente i seldo."
                > > > >
                > > > > "Minyave haryalye maure i aira porisalqueva Valinoorello ya naa
                > > varyaina

                Ma naa "varya" *grow*?

                >muine

                Mana muine?

                tarwassen," i atar quente yondoryanna.

                mana/masse tarwa?

                > > > >
                > > > **"A atarinya, nan masse Valinoore?" maquente i titta morifinda wende.
                > >
                > > "Alataire pella, i anhaira Nuumesse," quente i atar i wendenna, "nan laa

                mana Alataire ar anhaira

                > > haryalme maure lelya tanna netien i porisalque, an Noldor mamper erdi yo
                >te

                net-?
                map-? (mamper)

                > > iire tullente Endoorenna andave yaa, ar sii varyante i porisalque muine
                > > tarwassen, ve quenten."
                > >
                >
                >**"Aa Noldor, tane annoole Quendi!"

                ??

                quente i titta wende, "nan, attonya,
                >mana tyaave harya i coimas, laa amaatienyes tenna sii, ma naas lisse?"

                **"Naa, lisse ar maara" quente i atar

                Hantale !
                Tirno

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              • Greg Dyke
                (Ignore my previous message as far as the game is concerned) ... °° Naa! Lisse ar maara quendin. Nan atanin ve emmen, ahlaarien, Coimas naa saara. I vesse
                Message 7 of 12 , Dec 7, 1999
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                  (Ignore my previous message as far as the game is concerned)

                  Alda tence:
                  >
                  > > > > > "Atto, manen care i coimas", maquente i seldo."
                  > > > >
                  > > > > "Minyave haryalye maure i aira porisalqueva Valinoorello ya naa
                  > > varyaina muine tarwassen," i atar quente yondoryanna.
                  > > > >
                  > > > **"A atarinya, nan masse Valinoore?" maquente i titta morifinda wende.
                  > >
                  > > "Alataire pella, i anhaira Nuumesse," quente i atar i wendenna, "nan laa
                  > > haryalme maure lelya tanna netien i porisalque, an Noldor mamper erdi yo
                  >te
                  > > iire tullente Endoorenna andave yaa, ar sii varyante i porisalque muine
                  > > tarwassen, ve quenten."
                  > >
                  >
                  >**"Aa Noldor, tane annoole Quendi!" quente i titta wende, "nan, attonya,
                  >mana tyaave harya i coimas, laa amaatienyes tenna sii, ma naas lisse?"

                  ��"Naa! Lisse ar maara quendin. Nan atanin ve emmen, ahlaarien, Coimas naa
                  saara."

                  I vesse tulle sambenna ar quente:
                  "Coimas! Laa! Inye amaaties vanwiesse ar naas lisse ve liis ar culuma. Laa
                  queta raica coimaso ar quendion ; an naas uumea. Verno, hlara ninna.
                  Quetuvanye i luuo manten Coimas.


                  Tirno

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                • Greg Dyke
                  oops! ... Nan atanin ve emme ... Nautanye quenteere Veon laa Verno : Veon nee esserya Tirno ______________________________________________________ Get Your
                  Message 8 of 12 , Dec 7, 1999
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                    oops!

                    >��"Naa! Lisse ar maara quendin. Nan atanin ve emmen, ahlaarien,

                    Nan atanin ve emme

                    >Coimas naa
                    >saara."
                    >
                    >I vesse tulle sambenna ar quente:
                    >"Coimas! Laa! Inye amaaties vanwiesse ar naas lisse ve liis ar culuma. Laa
                    >queta raica coimaso ar quendion ; an naas uumea. Verno, hlara ninna.

                    Nautanye quenteere "Veon" laa "Verno": Veon nee esserya

                    Tirno


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                  • Ales Bican
                    ... **No, it s protect (Etym BAR). ... **Pl. of _muina_ hidden, secret (Etym MUY). ... **It s garden from QL. ... **_Alataire_ - _Alat-aire_ Great-sea ,
                    Message 9 of 12 , Dec 7, 1999
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                      Greg Dyke wrote:

                      > Meeran tertecie (translate) sine quettar.
                      >
                      > Alda tence:
                      > >
                      > > > > > > "Atto, manen care i coimas", maquente i seldo."
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > "Minyave haryalye maure i aira porisalqueva Valinoorello ya naa
                      > > > varyaina
                      >
                      > Ma naa "varya" *grow*?

                      **No, it's "protect" (Etym BAR).

                      >
                      >
                      > >muine
                      >
                      > Mana muine?

                      **Pl. of _muina_ "hidden, secret" (Etym MUY).

                      >
                      >
                      > tarwassen," i atar quente yondoryanna.
                      >
                      > mana/masse tarwa?

                      **It's "garden" from QL.

                      >
                      >
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > **"A atarinya, nan masse Valinoore?" maquente i titta morifinda wende.
                      > > >
                      > > > "Alataire pella, i anhaira Nuumesse," quente i atar i wendenna, "nan laa
                      >
                      > mana Alataire ar anhaira

                      **_Alataire_ - _Alat-aire_ "Great-sea", Quenya name of _Belegaer_.
                      _Anhaira_ - _An-haira_, _an_ is superlative prefix (cf. e.g.
                      _Ancalime_), _haira_ "remote, far" (Etym KHAYA).

                      >
                      >
                      > > > haryalme maure lelya tanna netien i porisalque, an Noldor mamper erdi yo
                      > >te
                      >
                      > net-?

                      **"Get" from QL, pa.t. _nente_.

                      >
                      > map-? (mamper)

                      **"grasp, seize" (Etym MAP-) usually used as "take".

                      >
                      >
                      > > > iire tullente Endoorenna andave yaa, ar sii varyante i porisalque muine
                      > > > tarwassen, ve quenten."
                      > > >
                      > >
                      > >**"Aa Noldor, tane annoole Quendi!"
                      >
                      > ??

                      **_Tane_ pl. of _tana_ "that".
                      _Annoole_ pl. of _annoola_ - _an-noola_, _noola_ "wise, learned" (Etym
                      ~NGOL).
                      It all means "Ah Noldor, those wisest Elves!"

                      >
                      >
                      > quente i titta wende, "nan, attonya,
                      > >mana tyaave harya i coimas, laa amaatienyes tenna sii, ma naas lisse?"
                      >
                      > **"Naa, lisse ar maara" quente i atar

                      **"Ar san apa i porisalque mana haryalme maure carien alya atsa?" merne
                      ista i wende.



                      Since not everyone here is able to understand what we write, I think
                      we'd always add the translation of the elvish text we wrote.

                      So here is the whole game-text with the translation.

                      *"Atto, manen care i coimas", maquente i seldo."*
                      "Dad, how make the coimas", asked the boy"

                      *"Minyave haryalye maure i aira porisalqueva Valinoorello ya naa
                      varyaina muine tarwassen," i atar quente yondoryanna.*
                      "First you have a need of holy flour-grass [=corn] from Valinor which
                      is protected/saved in secret gardens," the father said to son.

                      *"A atarinya, nan masse Valinoore?" maquente i titta morifinda wende.*
                      "O my father, but where [is] Valinor?" ask the little blackhaired girl.

                      *"Alataire pella, i anhaira Nuumesse," quente i atar i wendenna, "nan
                      laa haryalme maure lelya tanna netien i porisalque, an Noldor mamper
                      erdi yo te iire tullente Endoorenna andave yaa, ar sii varyante
                      i porisalque muine tarwassen, ve quenten."*
                      "Beyond the Great Sea, on the furthest West," said the father to
                      the girl, "but we have not need to go to it to get the flour-grass,
                      for Noldor grasped seeds with them when they went to Middle-Earth
                      long ago, and now they protect the flour-grass in the secret garden,
                      as I said."

                      *"Aa Noldor, tane annoole Quendi!" quente i titta wende, "nan,
                      attonya, mana tyaave harya i coimas, laa amaatienyes tenna sii, ma
                      naas lisse?"*
                      "Ah Noldor, those wisest Elves!" said the little girl, "but, my dad,
                      what taste does the coimas have, I have not eaten is until now, is
                      it sweet?"

                      *"Naa, lisse ar maara" quente i atar.*
                      "It is, sweet and good," said the father.

                      *"Ar san apa i porisalque mana maure haryalme carien i alya atsa?"
                      merne ista i wende.*
                      "And then after the flour-grass what need do we have to make
                      the blessed food?" wanted to know the girl.


                      Alda
                    • Greg Dyke
                      ... Laa ... merne istie i wende ? Tirno ______________________________________________________
                      Message 10 of 12 , Dec 8, 1999
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                        Alda tence:

                        >*"Ar san apa i porisalque mana maure haryalme carien i alya atsa?"
                        >merne ista i wende.*
                        >"And then after the flour-grass what need do we have to make
                        >the blessed food?" wanted to know the girl.
                        >

                        Laa "... merne istie i wende"?

                        Tirno

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                      • Greg Dyke
                        Erunya! Tencen rimbe nati raica: Ilquen eteecie: Atto, manen care i coimas , maquente i seldo. Minyave haryalye maure i aira porisalqueva Valinoorello ya
                        Message 11 of 12 , Dec 17, 1999
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                          Erunya! Tencen rimbe nati raica:

                          Ilquen eteecie:

                          "Atto, manen care i coimas", maquente i seldo."

                          "Minyave haryalye maure i aira porisalqueva Valinoorello ya
                          naa
                          varyaina muine tarwassen," i atar quente yondoryanna.

                          **"A atarinya, nan masse Valinoore?" maquente i titta
                          morifinda wende.

                          "Alataire pella, i anhaira Nuumesse," quente i atar i wendenna,
                          "nan laa haryalme maure lelya tanna netien i porisalque, an Noldor mamper
                          erdi yo te iire tullente Endoorenna andave yaa, ar sii varyante i porisalque
                          muine tarwassen, ve quenten."

                          **"Aa Noldor, tane annoole Quendi!" quente i titta wende, "nan,
                          attonya, mana tyaave harya i coimas, laa amaatienyes tenna sii, ma naas
                          lisse?"

                          ��"Naa! Lisse ar maara quendin. Nan atanin ve emme, ahlaarien,
                          Coimas naa saara."

                          I vesse tulle i sambenna ar quente:
                          "Coimas! Laa! Ni amaaties vanwiesse ar naas lisse ve liis ar
                          culuma. Laa queta raica coimaso ar quendion ; an naas uumea. Veon, hlara
                          ninna. Quetuvanye i luuo manten Coimas.


                          Tirno


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