1839Re: a couple of questions
- Feb 1 5:05 AM--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Isaac Penzev" <isaacp@u...> wrote:
> 1) Is there any way to count numbers beyond 12? E.g. tosay "thirteen"?
In the new issue of Vinyar Tengwar there is actually an answer to
your question. The last two issues of Vinyar Tengwar has dealt
extensively with Quenya numerals, so you would propably be
interested in obtaining these. From issue No. 48 we get the numerals
13 Q. _quainel_, 14 Q. _quaican_, 15 Q. _quailepen_, 16 Q.
_quainque_, 17 Q. _otoque_, 18 Q. _toloque_, 19 Q. _neterque_. There
are several differemt forms of these numerals and several different
modes of forming them. I suggest you read the issue (and the former
one) to learn the context these forms come from, as they are not
some finalized table but different ideas that can be read in
> 2) I know there are no attested words for "where" and "there" in
> available corpus. Some people reconstruct "where" as *massë. Ihave not yet
> found any reference to "there". We have the word "here" (="in thisplace") -
> sinomë. Would the words coined according to this pattern, *manomëand
> *tanomë, plausible, or at least understandable?In _Námarie_ "wherein (pl.)" is _yassen_ so maybe you can use _*ya_
as a demonstrative pronoun meaning "where". But maybe it is the
interrogative you want? I believe that that is what people have
reconstructed as Q. _*masse_.
There are a lot of different forms in the (posthumously) published
corpus meaning "there" and "where". I cannot list them all here,
since it would take a long study to present them in a proper manner.
Most of the demonstrative pronouns meaning "there" circle around the
word _en_ f. ex. in _en i úmavaisor_ "*there on the throne of hate"
from _Sí Qente Fëanor_ in Parma Eldalamberon No. 15. This is an
early source, but _en_ keeps popping up as the demonstrative "there"
taking different shades of meaning.
All the best,
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