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  • moecurlythanu
    ... The best blogs, those that specialise in certain genres and are ripping out of print vinyl, are getting huge hit rates and that tells you that the
    Message 1 of 53 , Jan 31, 2008
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      --- In psychedelica@yahoogroups.com, "Simon Ward" <sedward@...> wrote:
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      > I'm in the UK,..
      <snip> The best blogs, those that specialise in certain genres and are
      ripping out of print vinyl, are getting huge hit rates and that tells
      you that the end customer wants something different from the music
      business.
      >
      > Like it or not, you people are part of that business and it's out of
      date.
      >
      > Simon
      >

      As some of you folks in the UK would say, "whoaraloadarubbish!"...The
      blogs are popular for 2 reasons (well 3, maybe.)

      #1 - They offer FREE MUSIC. When giving most people a choice of paying
      for something or getting it free, they'll opt for getting it free. It
      leaves more money to be spent on other things, and comes down to naked
      financial self-interest. Attempts to dress it in more respectable
      clothes just create an atmosphere of entitlement, selfishness and
      cheapness that many of us find pathetic.
      #2 - The blogs offer a way for obscure music fans without deep pockets
      or the will to spend time crate digging to enjoy music that they would
      otherwise have to open their wallets for, either in big ticket ebay
      purchases, or in large quantity reissue purchases. That or much time
      spent crate digging to find those rare nuggets on the cheap (usually.)
      In other words, they allow the broke & the lazy an opportunity to hear
      the same music as the serious collector, without any of the cost or work.
      And I'll add a #3 - They allow the serious collector the opportunity
      to preview an obscure LP and decide if they really want to lay out the
      cash for an original or reissue. I don't have a problem with that. I
      find it alot more respectable than reasons 1 & 2.

      But for you to suggest that this is a reflection of some new business
      model, that times are changing and the "new" collector (downloader)
      frequents the blogs because they prefer the mp3 medium is disingenuous
      at best. I don't believe that you really believe that. Number one, the
      vast majority of young music fans (the ipod generation) don't give a
      rat's ass about this kind of music. Number two, they don't value music
      in monetary terms, not because it has no value in their lives, but
      because they don't HAVE to. They choose to get it for free because
      they CAN get it for free. Anyone can convert a CD into mp3 files, and
      many can convert vinyl to mp3 if they so choose. It's not about the
      medium, it's about the cost. It's about people who won't spend money
      wanting to live like those who do, and it's about selfishness. Any
      other spin is bullshit.

      Mark
    • Karl Ikola
      ... Yes, it s because Abraxas distributed Akarma product outside of Italy, though didn t manufacture it or produce it. They were/are two separate companies,
      Message 53 of 53 , Feb 5, 2008
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        On Feb 5, 2008, at 5:23 PM, john kioussis wrote:

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        > Wow ! I hope the word Hyperbolic wasn't intended at me as you know
        > what you know about Runt and the Italians and I know what I know ( I
        > know this sounds like an Abbott & Costello routine ) about them , ever
        > think that the 2 guys suing each other had business dealings with each
        > other and now have problems with their split up.

        Yes, it's because Abraxas distributed Akarma product outside of Italy,
        though didn't manufacture it or produce it. They were/are two separate
        companies, but did do business together at one time. That's the point I
        was making.


        > Interesting how Runt never carried much other product but the Italian
        > imports except towards the last year before the City Hall purchase.
        > Runt also had very poor customer service skills as I recall getting
        > much defective product from them and having spend more time and effort
        > than i've ever had to with other distributers in my 19 years of
        > retail. Everybody has a different view of things and this has been
        > mine.
        >

        Good enough. I bought from them in person here in the Bay Area so was
        able to maximize my service in a self-motivated way. It was a good deal
        for me for awhile, but it's over. I of course buy from City Hall but
        their prices are ever rising. best, Karl
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