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  • Devesh Padmanabhan
    How? I don t want to kill the app-server processes. The management at my workplace wanted to know if there is a way to lock people out during payroll run or
    Message 1 of 27 , Jul 6, 2011
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      How? I don't want to kill the app-server processes.

      The management at my workplace wanted to know if there is a way to lock people out during payroll run or change to read only.
      We can change their page access but it wont take effect until they log out.

      On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 5:14 PM, the dragon <ceprn@...> wrote:
       

      You can kill their sessions in the app server.
       
      I guess I am wondering under what conditions you'd like to force them out of the system.
       
      peace,
      clark 'the dragon' willis



       

      To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
      From: devesh.padmanabhan@...
      Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 14:32:55 -0400
      Subject: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Force Log-out a user in PeopleSoft

       
      Is there a way to force log-out users from PeopleSoft without bringing the Web-Server/App-server down?


    • Josh Whitlock
      Look at implementing signon times. You can then lock out groups of users if there are others you do want in (like yourself or admins). Have at least 2
      Message 2 of 27 , Jul 7, 2011
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        Look at implementing signon times. You can then lock out groups of users if there are others you do want in (like yourself or admins). Have at least 2 permission lists. Attach each to a role that the groups have. Delete all entries from PSAUTHSIGNON except for those two classids. Then manage your groups that way. After the signon end time passes, the next request to the appserver the user will get an error that they don't have a valid signon time. In 8.2 tools and previous, it would cause an error has occurred and then give invalid signon time when they go to sign in again.

        Josh
         
        Josh Whitlock
        bwaydba@...
        Madison, WI

        From: the dragon <ceprn@...>
        To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 4:14 PM
        Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Force Log-out a user in PeopleSoft

         
        You can kill their sessions in the app server.
         
        I guess I am wondering under what conditions you'd like to force them out of the system.
         
        peace,
        clark 'the dragon' willis



         

        To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
        From: devesh.padmanabhan@...
        Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 14:32:55 -0400
        Subject: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Force Log-out a user in PeopleSoft

         
        Is there a way to force log-out users from PeopleSoft without bringing the Web-Server/App-server down?



      • Devesh Padmanabhan
        Josh, Implementing Signon Times would only restrict users from accessing the system at predefined times.If a user is already logged in it wont log him/her out.
        Message 3 of 27 , Jul 7, 2011
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          Josh,

          Implementing Signon Times would only restrict users from accessing the system at predefined times.If a user is already logged in it wont log him/her out. Just that future logon would be denied. What I wanted to check was if there was a way to forcefully logout a user. Like the way we can do it in Oracle. Something on the webserver may be?

          Devesh

          On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Josh Whitlock <bwaydba@...> wrote:
           

          Look at implementing signon times. You can then lock out groups of users if there are others you do want in (like yourself or admins). Have at least 2 permission lists. Attach each to a role that the groups have. Delete all entries from PSAUTHSIGNON except for those two classids. Then manage your groups that way. After the signon end time passes, the next request to the appserver the user will get an error that they don't have a valid signon time. In 8.2 tools and previous, it would cause an error has occurred and then give invalid signon time when they go to sign in again.

          Josh
           
          Josh Whitlock
          bwaydba@...
          Madison, WI

          From: the dragon <ceprn@...>
          To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 4:14 PM
          Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Force Log-out a user in PeopleSoft

           
          You can kill their sessions in the app server.
           
          I guess I am wondering under what conditions you'd like to force them out of the system.
           
          peace,
          clark 'the dragon' willis



           

          To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
          From: devesh.padmanabhan@...
          Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 14:32:55 -0400
          Subject: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Force Log-out a user in PeopleSoft

           
          Is there a way to force log-out users from PeopleSoft without bringing the Web-Server/App-server down?




        • Josh Whitlock
          No, it doesn t restrict logins. It restricts access to the system. Even users that are logged in will be forcibly removed from the system when they make
          Message 4 of 27 , Jul 11, 2011
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            No, it doesn't restrict logins. It restricts access to the system. Even users that are logged in will be forcibly removed from the system when they make another request after their signon end time has been exceeeded. If I'm a user who's signon end time is 17:00, if I log in at 16:50, make a request, then make another at 17:01, my 17:01 request is met with an error and I'm logged out because my signon end time as been exceeded.
             
            Josh Whitlock
            bwaydba@...
            Madison, WI

            From: Devesh Padmanabhan <devesh.padmanabhan@...>
            To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 11:56 AM
            Subject: Re: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Force Log-out a user in PeopleSoft

             
            Josh,

            Implementing Signon Times would only restrict users from accessing the system at predefined times.If a user is already logged in it wont log him/her out. Just that future logon would be denied. What I wanted to check was if there was a way to forcefully logout a user. Like the way we can do it in Oracle. Something on the webserver may be?

            Devesh

            On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Josh Whitlock <bwaydba@...> wrote:
             
            Look at implementing signon times. You can then lock out groups of users if there are others you do want in (like yourself or admins). Have at least 2 permission lists. Attach each to a role that the groups have. Delete all entries from PSAUTHSIGNON except for those two classids. Then manage your groups that way. After the signon end time passes, the next request to the appserver the user will get an error that they don't have a valid signon time. In 8.2 tools and previous, it would cause an error has occurred and then give invalid signon time when they go to sign in again.

            Josh
             
            Josh Whitlock
            bwaydba@...
            Madison, WI

            From: the dragon <ceprn@...>
            To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 4:14 PM
            Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Force Log-out a user in PeopleSoft

             
            You can kill their sessions in the app server.
             
            I guess I am wondering under what conditions you'd like to force them out of the system.
             
            peace,
            clark 'the dragon' willis



             

            To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
            From: devesh.padmanabhan@...
            Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 14:32:55 -0400
            Subject: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Force Log-out a user in PeopleSoft

             
            Is there a way to force log-out users from PeopleSoft without bringing the Web-Server/App-server down?






          • the dragon
            OK, I know PeopleSoft allows the creation of services on Windoze servers, and I have seen this in action - it s usually pretty rock solid. The client I am at
            Message 5 of 27 , Jul 19, 2011
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              OK, I know PeopleSoft allows the creation of services on Windoze servers, and I have seen this in action - it's usually pretty rock solid.  The client I am at now chooses not to use services, but instead uses scheduled tasks - more because it's "what we have always done".  So, this is a new thing to me.  Does anyone have a better reason than "what we have always done" to use scheduled tasks vs service?  Or has anyone ever used them for PS?  Is there any pros/cons of one vs the other?  I know I can think of a couple, but I'm asking this of the throbbing brain.
               
              peace,
              clark 'the dragon' willis
               
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              "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and
              by the rulers as useful." -- Seneca


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              I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony

               
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              rules, then new and sometimes drastic rules must be forged to maintain
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            • the dragon
              Has anyone started the process of converting from PeopleSoft to Fusion?? Or are there plans to convert? I would be interested in hearing about your
              Message 6 of 27 , Jul 19, 2011
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                Has anyone started the process of converting from PeopleSoft to Fusion??  Or are there plans to convert?  I would be interested in hearing about your experience.
                 
                I was wondering about the changes in architecture, as well as the process.  I assume it's like converting from a legacy system to a new ERP system, with all the challenges that go along with that, and the same associated time lines...
                 
                peace,
                clark 'the dragon' willis
                 
                 

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                PSA: Salary <> Slavery. If you earn a salary, your employer is renting your
                services for 40 hours a week, not purchasing your soul. Your time is finite

                and the only real asset that you have, and once used it can never be
                recovered, so don't waste it by giving it away.


                I work to live; I don't live to work.
                 
                If a story is worth telling, it's worth embellishing.
                 
                It's not Rocket Surgery!

                "Time is the coin of your life. It is the only coin you have, and only
                you can determine how it will be spent. Be careful lest you let other
                people spend it for you." -- Carl Sandburg (1878 - 1967)


                "It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument." -- William G. McAdoo
                "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and
                by the rulers as useful." -- Seneca


                "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because
                I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony

                 
                "Does religion calm your fears of death?" "No, but death will calm my fear
                of religions."

                SIGNATURE :
                Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good
                with ketchup.
                You've got to be a Spirit; don't need no Ghosts.
                Do or Do Not; There is NO Try.
                Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art !
                A conclusion is simply the place where someone got tired of thinking.
                When a continuing state of defiance and disorder can not be checked by the
                rules, then new and sometimes drastic rules must be forged to maintain
                order; the alternative is anarchy.
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              • the dragon
                Wow! Three questions from me in one day! Does it get any better? In any case... I know you can use change assistant to create templates,and then jobs from
                Message 7 of 27 , Jul 19, 2011
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                  Wow!  Three questions from me in one day!  Does it get any better?
                   
                  In any case...
                   
                  I know you can use change assistant to create templates,and then jobs from scratch.  I know I can modify templates and jobs using CA.  However, is there anyway to create a change assistant package, like PS does for delivering bundles?  I have 2 bundles, 2 tax updates, 3 patches and a custom projects.  I'd like to be able to create one super package that contains everything described above, and run it in one swell foop.  Alas, I'm having some difficulties - getting java errors, and that's if I just change the name of the package and all it's parts - I think it especially doesn't like changes in the reformattedproject.xml and the project prjnnnnnn.xml, where I didn't pay attention to the "<!--Warning : Don't edit this file -->" warnings.
                   
                  So, any thoughts on how I can accomplish this?  How the heck does PS create upgrade packages?
                   
                  peace,
                  clark ' the dragon' willis
                   

                   
                  ----- long sig file; read at your own risk, for your own edification -----

                  PSA: Salary <> Slavery. If you earn a salary, your employer is renting your
                  services for 40 hours a week, not purchasing your soul. Your time is finite

                  and the only real asset that you have, and once used it can never be
                  recovered, so don't waste it by giving it away.


                  I work to live; I don't live to work.
                   
                  If a story is worth telling, it's worth embellishing.
                   
                  It's not Rocket Surgery!

                  "Time is the coin of your life. It is the only coin you have, and only
                  you can determine how it will be spent. Be careful lest you let other
                  people spend it for you." -- Carl Sandburg (1878 - 1967)


                  "It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument." -- William G. McAdoo
                  "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and
                  by the rulers as useful." -- Seneca


                  "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because
                  I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony

                   
                  "Does religion calm your fears of death?" "No, but death will calm my fear
                  of religions."

                  SIGNATURE :
                  Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good
                  with ketchup.
                  You've got to be a Spirit; don't need no Ghosts.
                  Do or Do Not; There is NO Try.
                  Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art !
                  A conclusion is simply the place where someone got tired of thinking.
                  When a continuing state of defiance and disorder can not be checked by the
                  rules, then new and sometimes drastic rules must be forged to maintain
                  order; the alternative is anarchy.
                  M. Clark Willis III - Sr Systems Analyst, Sr Consultant, PeopleSoft Admin and

                  Security expert, Tech Architect and team lead. ceprn@...
                  aolim:ceprn YIM:ceprn


                  Help stamp out SPAM!! http://www.cauce.org
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                • Duncan Davies
                  Clark, I think it s as simple as checking the change project checkbox on the project properties. Then you ll be able to create and finalise your change
                  Message 8 of 27 , Jul 19, 2011
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                    Clark,

                     

                    I think it’s as simple as checking the ‘change project’ checkbox on the project properties.  Then you’ll be able to create and finalise your change package from the Tools menu.

                     

                    Duncan

                     

                    PS. I like the sound of doing everything in a swell foop.

                     

                    From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                    Sent: 19 July 2011 21:21
                    To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                     

                     

                    Wow!  Three questions from me in one day!  Does it get any better?
                     
                    In any case...
                     
                    I know you can use change assistant to create templates,and then jobs from scratch.  I know I can modify templates and jobs using CA.  However, is there anyway to create a change assistant package, like PS does for delivering bundles?  I have 2 bundles, 2 tax updates, 3 patches and a custom projects.  I'd like to be able to create one super package that contains everything described above, and run it in one swell foop.  Alas, I'm having some difficulties - getting java errors, and that's if I just change the name of the package and all it's parts - I think it especially doesn't like changes in the reformattedproject.xml and the project prjnnnnnn.xml, where I didn't pay attention to the "<!--Warning : Don't edit this file -->" warnings.
                     
                    So, any thoughts on how I can accomplish this?  How the heck does PS create upgrade packages?
                     
                    peace,
                    clark ' the dragon' willis
                     

                     
                    ----- long sig file; read at your own risk, for your own edification -----

                    PSA: Salary <> Slavery. If you earn a salary, your employer is renting your
                    services for 40 hours a week, not purchasing your soul. Your time is finite

                    and the only real asset that you have, and once used it can never be
                    recovered, so don't waste it by giving it away.


                    I work to live; I don't live to work.
                     
                    If a story is worth telling, it's worth embellishing.
                     
                    It's not Rocket Surgery!

                    "Time is the coin of your life. It is the only coin you have, and only
                    you can determine how it will be spent. Be careful lest you let other
                    people spend it for you." -- Carl Sandburg (1878 - 1967)


                    "It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument." -- William G. McAdoo
                    "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and
                    by the rulers as useful." -- Seneca


                    "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because
                    I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony

                     
                    "Does religion calm your fears of death?" "No, but death will calm my fear
                    of religions."

                    SIGNATURE :
                    Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good
                    with ketchup.
                    You've got to be a Spirit; don't need no Ghosts.
                    Do or Do Not; There is NO Try.
                    Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art !
                    A conclusion is simply the place where someone got tired of thinking.
                    When a continuing state of defiance and disorder can not be checked by the
                    rules, then new and sometimes drastic rules must be forged to maintain
                    order; the alternative is anarchy.
                    M. Clark Willis III - Sr Systems Analyst, Sr Consultant, PeopleSoft Admin and

                    Security expert, Tech Architect and team lead. ceprn@...
                    aolim:ceprn YIM:ceprn


                    Help stamp out SPAM!! http://www.cauce.org
                    The senders of unsolicited commercial e-mail to me at any site are liable
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                  • the dragon
                    Duncan, Thanks for the reply. Alas, pardon my ignorance, but I don t see a change project checkbox anywhere in the change assistant - are you talking about
                    Message 9 of 27 , Jul 19, 2011
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                      Duncan,
                       
                      Thanks for the reply.  Alas, pardon my ignorance, but I don't see a "change project" checkbox anywhere in the change assistant - are you talking about inside the application designer?  And if in AD, I am not certain how that helps in CA.
                       
                      peace,
                      clark 'the dragon' willis
                       

                      To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                      From: duncan.davies@...
                      Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:39:14 +0100
                      Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                       

                      Clark,

                       

                      I think it’s as simple as checking the ‘change project’ checkbox on the project properties.  Then you’ll be able to create and finalise your change package from the Tools menu.

                       

                      Duncan

                       

                      PS. I like the sound of doing everything in a swell foop.

                       

                      From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                      Sent: 19 July 2011 21:21
                      To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                       

                       

                      Wow!  Three questions from me in one day!  Does it get any better?
                       
                      In any case...
                       
                      I know you can use change assistant to create templates,and then jobs from scratch.  I know I can modify templates and jobs using CA.  However, is there anyway to create a change assistant package, like PS does for delivering bundles?  I have 2 bundles, 2 tax updates, 3 patches and a custom projects.  I'd like to be able to create one super package that contains everything described above, and run it in one swell foop.  Alas, I'm having some difficulties - getting java errors, and that's if I just change the name of the package and all it's parts - I think it especially doesn't like changes in the reformattedproject.xml and the project prjnnnnnn.xml, where I didn't pay attention to the "<!--Warning : Don't edit this file -->" warnings.
                       
                      So, any thoughts on how I can accomplish this?  How the heck does PS create upgrade packages?
                       
                      peace,
                      clark ' the dragon' willis
                       

                       
                      ----- long sig file; read at your own risk, for your own edification -----

                      PSA: Salary <> Slavery. If you earn a salary, your employer is renting your
                      services for 40 hours a week, not purchasing your soul. Your time is finite

                      and the only real asset that you have, and once used it can never be
                      recovered, so don't waste it by giving it away.


                      I work to live; I don't live to work.
                       
                      If a story is worth telling, it's worth embellishing.
                       
                      It's not Rocket Surgery!

                      "Time is the coin of your life. It is the only coin you have, and only
                      you can determine how it will be spent. Be careful lest you let other
                      people spend it for you." -- Carl Sandburg (1878 - 1967)


                      "It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument." -- William G. McAdoo
                      "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and
                      by the rulers as useful." -- Seneca


                      "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because
                      I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony

                       
                      "Does religion calm your fears of death?" "No, but death will calm my fear
                      of religions."

                      SIGNATURE :
                      Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good
                      with ketchup.
                      You've got to be a Spirit; don't need no Ghosts.
                      Do or Do Not; There is NO Try.
                      Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art !
                      A conclusion is simply the place where someone got tired of thinking.
                      When a continuing state of defiance and disorder can not be checked by the
                      rules, then new and sometimes drastic rules must be forged to maintain
                      order; the alternative is anarchy.
                      M. Clark Willis III - Sr Systems Analyst, Sr Consultant, PeopleSoft Admin and

                      Security expert, Tech Architect and team lead. ceprn@...
                      aolim:ceprn YIM:ceprn


                      Help stamp out SPAM!! http://www.cauce.org
                      The senders of unsolicited commercial e-mail to me at any site are liable
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                    • Duncan Davies
                      Ah, I see what you re asking for now. I assumed that you had a list of projects in App Designer that you wanted bundled into a big Change Package (in which
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                        Ah, I see what you’re asking for now. 

                         

                        I assumed that you had a list of projects in App Designer that you wanted bundled into a big Change Package (in which case you’d do that in App Designer using the ‘change project’).  However, it sounds as though you have a series of bundles in Change Assistant that you want merging. 

                         

                        I don’t know a quick way of doing that, sorry!

                         

                        Unless you have a LOT of environments, I’d probably make do with having all the bundles/tax updates in the CA download directory and apply them in one go (albeit serially)?

                         

                        Duncan

                         

                        From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                        Sent: 19 July 2011 21:51
                        To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                         

                         

                        Duncan,
                         
                        Thanks for the reply.  Alas, pardon my ignorance, but I don't see a "change project" checkbox anywhere in the change assistant - are you talking about inside the application designer?  And if in AD, I am not certain how that helps in CA.
                         
                        peace,
                        clark 'the dragon' willis
                         


                        To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                        From: duncan.davies@...
                        Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:39:14 +0100
                        Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                         

                        Clark,

                         

                        I think it’s as simple as checking the ‘change project’ checkbox on the project properties.  Then you’ll be able to create and finalise your change package from the Tools menu.

                         

                        Duncan

                         

                        PS. I like the sound of doing everything in a swell foop.

                         

                        From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                        Sent: 19 July 2011 21:21
                        To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                         

                         

                        Wow!  Three questions from me in one day!  Does it get any better?
                         
                        In any case...
                         
                        I know you can use change assistant to create templates,and then jobs from scratch.  I know I can modify templates and jobs using CA.  However, is there anyway to create a change assistant package, like PS does for delivering bundles?  I have 2 bundles, 2 tax updates, 3 patches and a custom projects.  I'd like to be able to create one super package that contains everything described above, and run it in one swell foop.  Alas, I'm having some difficulties - getting java errors, and that's if I just change the name of the package and all it's parts - I think it especially doesn't like changes in the reformattedproject.xml and the project prjnnnnnn.xml, where I didn't pay attention to the "<!--Warning : Don't edit this file -->" warnings.
                         
                        So, any thoughts on how I can accomplish this?  How the heck does PS create upgrade packages?
                         
                        peace,
                        clark ' the dragon' willis
                         

                         
                        ----- long sig file; read at your own risk, for your own edification -----

                        PSA: Salary <> Slavery. If you earn a salary, your employer is renting your
                        services for 40 hours a week, not purchasing your soul. Your time is finite

                        and the only real asset that you have, and once used it can never be
                        recovered, so don't waste it by giving it away.


                        I work to live; I don't live to work.
                         
                        If a story is worth telling, it's worth embellishing.
                         
                        It's not Rocket Surgery!

                        "Time is the coin of your life. It is the only coin you have, and only
                        you can determine how it will be spent. Be careful lest you let other
                        people spend it for you." -- Carl Sandburg (1878 - 1967)


                        "It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument." -- William G. McAdoo
                        "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and
                        by the rulers as useful." -- Seneca


                        "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because
                        I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony

                         
                        "Does religion calm your fears of death?" "No, but death will calm my fear
                        of religions."

                        SIGNATURE :
                        Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good
                        with ketchup.
                        You've got to be a Spirit; don't need no Ghosts.
                        Do or Do Not; There is NO Try.
                        Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art !
                        A conclusion is simply the place where someone got tired of thinking.
                        When a continuing state of defiance and disorder can not be checked by the
                        rules, then new and sometimes drastic rules must be forged to maintain
                        order; the alternative is anarchy.
                        M. Clark Willis III - Sr Systems Analyst, Sr Consultant, PeopleSoft Admin and

                        Security expert, Tech Architect and team lead. ceprn@...
                        aolim:ceprn YIM:ceprn


                        Help stamp out SPAM!! http://www.cauce.org
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                      • the dragon
                        Duncan, I has thought of that - to apply them serially; unfortunately, the files are not in numerical order. PRJ843101 (1) PRJ860365 (2) PRJ852830 (3)
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                          Duncan,
                           
                          I has thought of that - to apply them serially; unfortunately, the files are not in numerical order.
                           
                          PRJ843101 (1)
                          PRJ860365 (2)
                          PRJ852830 (3)
                          PRJ866773 (4)
                          PRJ860805 (5)
                          PRJ867993 (6)
                          custom project (7)
                           
                          Above is the order they need to go in; unfortunately, CA will run thin in this order:
                           
                          PRJ843101 (1)
                          PRJ852830 (3)
                          PRJ860365 (2)
                          PRJ860805 (5)
                          PRJ866773 (4)
                          PRJ867993 (6)
                           
                          and I don't know where the below will go
                          custom project

                          peace,
                          clark 'the dragon' willis
                           

                          To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                          From: duncan.davies@...
                          Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:58:26 +0100
                          Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                           

                          Ah, I see what you’re asking for now. 

                           

                          I assumed that you had a list of projects in App Designer that you wanted bundled into a big Change Package (in which case you’d do that in App Designer using the ‘change project’).  However, it sounds as though you have a series of bundles in Change Assistant that you want merging. 

                           

                          I don’t know a quick way of doing that, sorry!

                           

                          Unless you have a LOT of environments, I’d probably make do with having all the bundles/tax updates in the CA download directory and apply them in one go (albeit serially)?

                           

                          Duncan

                           

                          From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                          Sent: 19 July 2011 21:51
                          To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                          Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                           

                           

                          Duncan,
                           
                          Thanks for the reply.  Alas, pardon my ignorance, but I don't see a "change project" checkbox anywhere in the change assistant - are you talking about inside the application designer?  And if in AD, I am not certain how that helps in CA.
                           
                          peace,
                          clark 'the dragon' willis
                           


                          To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                          From: duncan.davies@...
                          Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:39:14 +0100
                          Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                           

                          Clark,

                           

                          I think it’s as simple as checking the ‘change project’ checkbox on the project properties.  Then you’ll be able to create and finalise your change package from the Tools menu.

                           

                          Duncan

                           

                          PS. I like the sound of doing everything in a swell foop.

                           

                          From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                          Sent: 19 July 2011 21:21
                          To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                          Subject: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                           

                           

                          Wow!  Three questions from me in one day!  Does it get any better?
                           
                          In any case...
                           
                          I know you can use change assistant to create templates,and then jobs from scratch.  I know I can modify templates and jobs using CA.  However, is there anyway to create a change assistant package, like PS does for delivering bundles?  I have 2 bundles, 2 tax updates, 3 patches and a custom projects.  I'd like to be able to create one super package that contains everything described above, and run it in one swell foop.  Alas, I'm having some difficulties - getting java errors, and that's if I just change the name of the package and all it's parts - I think it especially doesn't like changes in the reformattedproject.xml and the project prjnnnnnn.xml, where I didn't pay attention to the "<!--Warning : Don't edit this file -->" warnings.
                           
                          So, any thoughts on how I can accomplish this?  How the heck does PS create upgrade packages?
                           
                          peace,
                          clark ' the dragon' willis
                           

                           
                          ----- long sig file; read at your own risk, for your own edification -----

                          PSA: Salary <> Slavery. If you earn a salary, your employer is renting your
                          services for 40 hours a week, not purchasing your soul. Your time is finite

                          and the only real asset that you have, and once used it can never be
                          recovered, so don't waste it by giving it away.


                          I work to live; I don't live to work.
                           
                          If a story is worth telling, it's worth embellishing.
                           
                          It's not Rocket Surgery!

                          "Time is the coin of your life. It is the only coin you have, and only
                          you can determine how it will be spent. Be careful lest you let other
                          people spend it for you." -- Carl Sandburg (1878 - 1967)


                          "It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument." -- William G. McAdoo
                          "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and
                          by the rulers as useful." -- Seneca


                          "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because
                          I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony

                           
                          "Does religion calm your fears of death?" "No, but death will calm my fear
                          of religions."

                          SIGNATURE :
                          Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good
                          with ketchup.
                          You've got to be a Spirit; don't need no Ghosts.
                          Do or Do Not; There is NO Try.
                          Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art !
                          A conclusion is simply the place where someone got tired of thinking.
                          When a continuing state of defiance and disorder can not be checked by the
                          rules, then new and sometimes drastic rules must be forged to maintain
                          order; the alternative is anarchy.
                          M. Clark Willis III - Sr Systems Analyst, Sr Consultant, PeopleSoft Admin and

                          Security expert, Tech Architect and team lead. ceprn@...
                          aolim:ceprn YIM:ceprn


                          Help stamp out SPAM!! http://www.cauce.org
                          The senders of unsolicited commercial e-mail to me at any site are liable
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                        • Duncan Davies
                          Can you tweak the project pre-requisites to trick CA into doing it in the right order? (grasping at straws now, I have never tried this) From:
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                            Can you ‘tweak’ the project pre-requisites to trick CA into doing it in the right order? (grasping at straws now, I have never tried this)

                             

                            From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                            Sent: 19 July 2011 22:12
                            To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                            Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                             

                             

                            Duncan,
                             
                            I has thought of that - to apply them serially; unfortunately, the files are not in numerical order.
                             
                            PRJ843101 (1)
                            PRJ860365 (2)
                            PRJ852830 (3)
                            PRJ866773 (4)
                            PRJ860805 (5)
                            PRJ867993 (6)
                            custom project (7)
                             
                            Above is the order they need to go in; unfortunately, CA will run thin in this order:
                             
                            PRJ843101 (1)
                            PRJ852830 (3)
                            PRJ860365 (2)
                            PRJ860805 (5)
                            PRJ866773 (4)
                            PRJ867993 (6)
                             
                            and I don't know where the below will go
                            custom project

                            peace,
                            clark 'the dragon' willis
                             


                            To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                            From: duncan.davies@...
                            Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:58:26 +0100
                            Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                             

                            Ah, I see what you’re asking for now. 

                             

                            I assumed that you had a list of projects in App Designer that you wanted bundled into a big Change Package (in which case you’d do that in App Designer using the ‘change project’).  However, it sounds as though you have a series of bundles in Change Assistant that you want merging. 

                             

                            I don’t know a quick way of doing that, sorry!

                             

                            Unless you have a LOT of environments, I’d probably make do with having all the bundles/tax updates in the CA download directory and apply them in one go (albeit serially)?

                             

                            Duncan

                             

                            From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                            Sent: 19 July 2011 21:51
                            To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                            Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                             

                             

                            Duncan,
                             
                            Thanks for the reply.  Alas, pardon my ignorance, but I don't see a "change project" checkbox anywhere in the change assistant - are you talking about inside the application designer?  And if in AD, I am not certain how that helps in CA.
                             
                            peace,
                            clark 'the dragon' willis
                             


                            To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                            From: duncan.davies@...
                            Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:39:14 +0100
                            Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                             

                            Clark,

                             

                            I think it’s as simple as checking the ‘change project’ checkbox on the project properties.  Then you’ll be able to create and finalise your change package from the Tools menu.

                             

                            Duncan

                             

                            PS. I like the sound of doing everything in a swell foop.

                             

                            From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                            Sent: 19 July 2011 21:21
                            To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                            Subject: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                             

                             

                            Wow!  Three questions from me in one day!  Does it get any better?
                             
                            In any case...
                             
                            I know you can use change assistant to create templates,and then jobs from scratch.  I know I can modify templates and jobs using CA.  However, is there anyway to create a change assistant package, like PS does for delivering bundles?  I have 2 bundles, 2 tax updates, 3 patches and a custom projects.  I'd like to be able to create one super package that contains everything described above, and run it in one swell foop.  Alas, I'm having some difficulties - getting java errors, and that's if I just change the name of the package and all it's parts - I think it especially doesn't like changes in the reformattedproject.xml and the project prjnnnnnn.xml, where I didn't pay attention to the "<!--Warning : Don't edit this file -->" warnings.
                             
                            So, any thoughts on how I can accomplish this?  How the heck does PS create upgrade packages?
                             
                            peace,
                            clark ' the dragon' willis
                             

                             
                            ----- long sig file; read at your own risk, for your own edification -----

                            PSA: Salary <> Slavery. If you earn a salary, your employer is renting your
                            services for 40 hours a week, not purchasing your soul. Your time is finite

                            and the only real asset that you have, and once used it can never be
                            recovered, so don't waste it by giving it away.


                            I work to live; I don't live to work.
                             
                            If a story is worth telling, it's worth embellishing.
                             
                            It's not Rocket Surgery!

                            "Time is the coin of your life. It is the only coin you have, and only
                            you can determine how it will be spent. Be careful lest you let other
                            people spend it for you." -- Carl Sandburg (1878 - 1967)


                            "It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument." -- William G. McAdoo
                            "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and
                            by the rulers as useful." -- Seneca


                            "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because
                            I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony

                             
                            "Does religion calm your fears of death?" "No, but death will calm my fear
                            of religions."

                            SIGNATURE :
                            Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good
                            with ketchup.
                            You've got to be a Spirit; don't need no Ghosts.
                            Do or Do Not; There is NO Try.
                            Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art !
                            A conclusion is simply the place where someone got tired of thinking.
                            When a continuing state of defiance and disorder can not be checked by the
                            rules, then new and sometimes drastic rules must be forged to maintain
                            order; the alternative is anarchy.
                            M. Clark Willis III - Sr Systems Analyst, Sr Consultant, PeopleSoft Admin and

                            Security expert, Tech Architect and team lead. ceprn@...
                            aolim:ceprn YIM:ceprn


                            Help stamp out SPAM!! http://www.cauce.org
                            The senders of unsolicited commercial e-mail to me at any site are liable
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                          • the dragon
                            That s an idea I had not considered - I guess I could play with it and see what happens - My fear would be that it would not be start enough to run the
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                              That's an idea I had not considered - I guess I could play with it and see what happens - My fear would be that it would not be start enough to run the pre-reqs first, but just stop because they hadn't been run.  If I try this, I'll let you know how it turns,out.
                               
                              peace,
                              clark 'the dragon' willis


                              To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                              From: duncan.davies@...
                              Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:17:49 +0100
                              Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                               

                              Can you ‘tweak’ the project pre-requisites to trick CA into doing it in the right order? (grasping at straws now, I have never tried this)

                               

                              From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                              Sent: 19 July 2011 22:12
                              To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                              Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                               

                               

                              Duncan,
                               
                              I has thought of that - to apply them serially; unfortunately, the files are not in numerical order.
                               
                              PRJ843101 (1)
                              PRJ860365 (2)
                              PRJ852830 (3)
                              PRJ866773 (4)
                              PRJ860805 (5)
                              PRJ867993 (6)
                              custom project (7)
                               
                              Above is the order they need to go in; unfortunately, CA will run thin in this order:
                               
                              PRJ843101 (1)
                              PRJ852830 (3)
                              PRJ860365 (2)
                              PRJ860805 (5)
                              PRJ866773 (4)
                              PRJ867993 (6)
                               
                              and I don't know where the below will go
                              custom project

                              peace,
                              clark 'the dragon' willis
                               


                              To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                              From: duncan.davies@...
                              Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:58:26 +0100
                              Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                               

                              Ah, I see what you’re asking for now. 

                               

                              I assumed that you had a list of projects in App Designer that you wanted bundled into a big Change Package (in which case you’d do that in App Designer using the ‘change project’).  However, it sounds as though you have a series of bundles in Change Assistant that you want merging. 

                               

                              I don’t know a quick way of doing that, sorry!

                               

                              Unless you have a LOT of environments, I’d probably make do with having all the bundles/tax updates in the CA download directory and apply them in one go (albeit serially)?

                               

                              Duncan

                               

                              From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                              Sent: 19 July 2011 21:51
                              To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                              Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                               

                               

                              Duncan,
                               
                              Thanks for the reply.  Alas, pardon my ignorance, but I don't see a "change project" checkbox anywhere in the change assistant - are you talking about inside the application designer?  And if in AD, I am not certain how that helps in CA.
                               
                              peace,
                              clark 'the dragon' willis
                               


                              To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                              From: duncan.davies@...
                              Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:39:14 +0100
                              Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                               

                              Clark,

                               

                              I think it’s as simple as checking the ‘change project’ checkbox on the project properties.  Then you’ll be able to create and finalise your change package from the Tools menu.

                               

                              Duncan

                               

                              PS. I like the sound of doing everything in a swell foop.

                               

                              From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                              Sent: 19 July 2011 21:21
                              To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                              Subject: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                               

                               

                              Wow!  Three questions from me in one day!  Does it get any better?
                               
                              In any case...
                               
                              I know you can use change assistant to create templates,and then jobs from scratch.  I know I can modify templates and jobs using CA.  However, is there anyway to create a change assistant package, like PS does for delivering bundles?  I have 2 bundles, 2 tax updates, 3 patches and a custom projects.  I'd like to be able to create one super package that contains everything described above, and run it in one swell foop.  Alas, I'm having some difficulties - getting java errors, and that's if I just change the name of the package and all it's parts - I think it especially doesn't like changes in the reformattedproject.xml and the project prjnnnnnn.xml, where I didn't pay attention to the "<!--Warning : Don't edit this file -->" warnings.
                               
                              So, any thoughts on how I can accomplish this?  How the heck does PS create upgrade packages?
                               
                              peace,
                              clark ' the dragon' willis
                               

                               
                              ----- long sig file; read at your own risk, for your own edification -----

                              PSA: Salary <> Slavery. If you earn a salary, your employer is renting your
                              services for 40 hours a week, not purchasing your soul. Your time is finite

                              and the only real asset that you have, and once used it can never be
                              recovered, so don't waste it by giving it away.


                              I work to live; I don't live to work.
                               
                              If a story is worth telling, it's worth embellishing.
                               
                              It's not Rocket Surgery!

                              "Time is the coin of your life. It is the only coin you have, and only
                              you can determine how it will be spent. Be careful lest you let other
                              people spend it for you." -- Carl Sandburg (1878 - 1967)


                              "It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument." -- William G. McAdoo
                              "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and
                              by the rulers as useful." -- Seneca


                              "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because
                              I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony

                               
                              "Does religion calm your fears of death?" "No, but death will calm my fear
                              of religions."

                              SIGNATURE :
                              Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good
                              with ketchup.
                              You've got to be a Spirit; don't need no Ghosts.
                              Do or Do Not; There is NO Try.
                              Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art !
                              A conclusion is simply the place where someone got tired of thinking.
                              When a continuing state of defiance and disorder can not be checked by the
                              rules, then new and sometimes drastic rules must be forged to maintain
                              order; the alternative is anarchy.
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                              Security expert, Tech Architect and team lead. ceprn@...
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                            • BANKS, Richard
                              You re probably better off learning more about CA outside of a patching window - there s a lot to get your head around, and a lot of overhead. If you really
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                                You’re probably better off learning more about CA outside of a patching window – there’s a lot to get your head around, and a lot of overhead.

                                 

                                If you really want to save time, manually create your own merged project and deployment documentation and do it manually.  This is pretty much the pre req to PSCA anyway.

                                 

                                But these are your basic steps (In App Designer)

                                 

                                Create/Update Project - Confirm project update flags are OK then

                                File > Project Properties > Change Project

                                Add Update IDs

                                Add pre reqs (but be careful - this will rarely be worth it)

                                Create Package - Tools > Create Change Package

                                Edit Package - update documentation (via PSCA) as required

                                Finalize Package - Tools > Finalize Package

                                 

                                 

                                From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                                Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2011 07:12
                                To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                 

                                 

                                Duncan,
                                 
                                I has thought of that - to apply them serially; unfortunately, the files are not in numerical order.
                                 
                                PRJ843101 (1)
                                PRJ860365 (2)
                                PRJ852830 (3)
                                PRJ866773 (4)
                                PRJ860805 (5)
                                PRJ867993 (6)
                                custom project (7)
                                 
                                Above is the order they need to go in; unfortunately, CA will run thin in this order:
                                 
                                PRJ843101 (1)
                                PRJ852830 (3)
                                PRJ860365 (2)
                                PRJ860805 (5)
                                PRJ866773 (4)
                                PRJ867993 (6)
                                 
                                and I don't know where the below will go
                                custom project

                                peace,
                                clark 'the dragon' willis
                                 


                                To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                From: duncan.davies@...
                                Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:58:26 +0100
                                Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                 

                                Ah, I see what you’re asking for now. 

                                 

                                I assumed that you had a list of projects in App Designer that you wanted bundled into a big Change Package (in which case you’d do that in App Designer using the ‘change project’).  However, it sounds as though you have a series of bundles in Change Assistant that you want merging. 

                                 

                                I don’t know a quick way of doing that, sorry!

                                 

                                Unless you have a LOT of environments, I’d probably make do with having all the bundles/tax updates in the CA download directory and apply them in one go (albeit serially)?

                                 

                                Duncan

                                 

                                From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                                Sent: 19 July 2011 21:51
                                To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                 

                                 

                                Duncan,
                                 
                                Thanks for the reply.  Alas, pardon my ignorance, but I don't see a "change project" checkbox anywhere in the change assistant - are you talking about inside the application designer?  And if in AD, I am not certain how that helps in CA.
                                 
                                peace,
                                clark 'the dragon' willis
                                 


                                To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                From: duncan.davies@...
                                Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:39:14 +0100
                                Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                 

                                Clark,

                                 

                                I think it’s as simple as checking the ‘change project’ checkbox on the project properties.  Then you’ll be able to create and finalise your change package from the Tools menu.

                                 

                                Duncan

                                 

                                PS. I like the sound of doing everything in a swell foop.

                                 

                                From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                                Sent: 19 July 2011 21:21
                                To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                Subject: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                 

                                 

                                Wow!  Three questions from me in one day!  Does it get any better?
                                 
                                In any case...
                                 
                                I know you can use change assistant to create templates,and then jobs from scratch.  I know I can modify templates and jobs using CA.  However, is there anyway to create a change assistant package, like PS does for delivering bundles?  I have 2 bundles, 2 tax updates, 3 patches and a custom projects.  I'd like to be able to create one super package that contains everything described above, and run it in one swell foop.  Alas, I'm having some difficulties - getting java errors, and that's if I just change the name of the package and all it's parts - I think it especially doesn't like changes in the reformattedproject.xml and the project prjnnnnnn.xml, where I didn't pay attention to the "<!--Warning : Don't edit this file -->" warnings.
                                 
                                So, any thoughts on how I can accomplish this?  How the heck does PS create upgrade packages?
                                 
                                peace,
                                clark ' the dragon' willis
                                 

                                 
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                                order; the alternative is anarchy.
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                              • deepanshu sharma
                                Hi Clark I am not sure you still need that information but anyways I share my experience while running PS App/Web/Process Scheduler services with windows
                                Message 15 of 27 , Jul 21, 2011
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                                  Hi Clark
                                   
                                  I am not sure you still need that information but anyways I share my experience while running PS App/Web/Process Scheduler services with windows scheduled tasks.
                                   
                                  You gone need to create batch files to start and stop ur App / Web and Process scheduler servers and then you need to create tasks in windows task manager for them. The important point here to set the time of these tasks say in our case for weekly full backup we had scheduled tasks for stopping and starting of Application so that extra headche you need to take with windows tasks.
                                   
                                  The user with which task is running also comes in to picture it should have proper access to the PS_HOME apart from that we never had much big issue while using windows tasks (My Luck).
                                   
                                  Deepanshu

                                  From: the dragon <ceprn@...>
                                  To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                  Sent: Tue, July 19, 2011 7:45:36 PM
                                  Subject: PeopleSoft DBA Forum MS services vs scheduled tasks

                                   

                                  OK, I know PeopleSoft allows the creation of services on Windoze servers, and I have seen this in action - it's usually pretty rock solid.  The client I am at now chooses not to use services, but instead uses scheduled tasks - more because it's "what we have always done".  So, this is a new thing to me.  Does anyone have a better reason than "what we have always done" to use scheduled tasks vs service?  Or has anyone ever used them for PS?  Is there any pros/cons of one vs the other?  I know I can think of a couple, but I'm asking this of the throbbing brain.
                                   
                                  peace,
                                  clark 'the dragon' willis
                                   
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                                  recovered, so don't waste it by giving it away.


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                                  If a story is worth telling, it's worth embellishing.
                                   
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                                  you can determine how it will be spent. Be careful lest you let other
                                  people spend it for you." -- Carl Sandburg (1878 - 1967)


                                  "It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument." -- William G. McAdoo
                                  "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and
                                  by the rulers as useful." -- Seneca


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                                  I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony

                                   
                                  "Does religion calm your fears of death?" "No, but death will calm my fear
                                  of religions."

                                  SIGNATURE :
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                                  with ketchup.
                                  You've got to be a Spirit; don't need no Ghosts.
                                  Do or Do Not; There is NO Try.
                                  Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art !
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                                  When a continuing state of defiance and disorder can not be checked by the
                                  rules, then new and sometimes drastic rules must be forged to maintain
                                  order; the alternative is anarchy.
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                                • David Kurtz
                                  I believe that Oracle no longer provides a template for the Oracle Database Creation Assistant for PeopleSoft. Does anyone out there know better? regards
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                                    I believe that Oracle no longer provides a template for the Oracle Database Creation Assistant for PeopleSoft. 
                                    Does anyone out there know better?
                                     

                                    regards
                                    _________________________
                                    David Kurtz
                                    Go-Faster Consultancy Ltd.
                                    tel: +44 (0)7771 760660
                                    fax: +44 (0)7092 348865
                                    mailto:david.kurtz@...
                                    web: www.go-faster.co.uk
                                    Book: PeopleSoft for the Oracle DBA: http://www.psftdba.com
                                    DBA Blogs: PeopleSoft: http://blog.psftdba.com, Oracle: http://blog.go-faster.co.uk
                                    PeopleSoft DBA Forum: http://groups.y

                                  • the dragon
                                    I can not say one way or the other, but I know everything you need to create a PeopleSoft instance of Oracle is included in the install media. peace, clark
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                                      I can not say one way or the other, but I know everything you need to create a PeopleSoft instance of Oracle is included in the install media.
                                       
                                      peace,
                                      clark 'the dragon' willis


                                       

                                      To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                      From: david.kurtz@...
                                      Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:31:16 +0100
                                      Subject: PeopleSoft DBA Forum PeopleSoft Template for Oracle Database Creation Assistant

                                       
                                      I believe that Oracle no longer provides a template for the Oracle Database Creation Assistant for PeopleSoft. 
                                      Does anyone out there know better?
                                       

                                      regards
                                      _________________________
                                      David Kurtz
                                      Go-Faster Consultancy Ltd.
                                      tel: +44 (0)7771 760660
                                      fax: +44 (0)7092 348865
                                      mailto:david.kurtz@...
                                      web: www.go-faster.co.uk
                                      Book: PeopleSoft for the Oracle DBA: http://www.psftdba.com
                                      DBA Blogs: PeopleSoft: http://blog.psftdba.com, Oracle: http://blog.go-faster.co.uk
                                      PeopleSoft DBA Forum: http://groups.y


                                    • David Kurtz
                                      True. In fact they give you rather too much because they still ship rollback.sql in the PT8.51 distribution. I always considered the assistant to be more
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                                        True.  In fact they give you rather too much because they still ship rollback.sql in the PT8.51 distribution.
                                         
                                        I always considered the assistant to be more trouble that it was worth.  I always perfer to use scripts.
                                        It used to be that the template could be downloaded from Customer Connection.  I can't find anything on MOS.
                                        I am writing something at the moment, and I wanted to check the fact.
                                         

                                        regards
                                        _________________________
                                        David Kurtz
                                        Go-Faster Consultancy Ltd.
                                        tel: +44 (0)7771 760660
                                        fax: +44 (0)7092 348865
                                        mailto:david.kurtz@...
                                        web: www.go-faster.co.uk
                                        Book: PeopleSoft for the Oracle DBA: http://www.psftdba.com
                                        DBA Blogs: PeopleSoft: http://blog.psftdba.com, Oracle: http://blog.go-faster.co.uk
                                        PeopleSoft DBA Forum: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psftdba

                                         


                                        From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                                        Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:40 PM
                                        To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                        Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum PeopleSoft Template for Oracle Database Creation Assistant

                                        I can not say one way or the other, but I know everything you need to create a PeopleSoft instance of Oracle is included in the install media.
                                         
                                        peace,
                                        clark 'the dragon' willis


                                         

                                        To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                        From: david.kurtz@...
                                        Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:31:16 +0100
                                        Subject: PeopleSoft DBA Forum PeopleSoft Template for Oracle Database Creation Assistant

                                         
                                        I believe that Oracle no longer provides a template for the Oracle Database Creation Assistant for PeopleSoft. 
                                        Does anyone out there know better?
                                         

                                        regards
                                        _________________________
                                        David Kurtz
                                        Go-Faster Consultancy Ltd.
                                        tel: +44 (0)7771 760660
                                        fax: +44 (0)7092 348865
                                        mailto:david.kurtz@...
                                        web: www.go-faster.co.uk
                                        Book: PeopleSoft for the Oracle DBA: http://www.psftdba.com
                                        DBA Blogs: PeopleSoft: http://blog.psftdba.com, Oracle: http://blog.go-faster.co.uk
                                        PeopleSoft DBA Forum: http://groups.y

                                      • jason
                                        you have to create the service to create a scheduled task. The reason to create services is if you server reboots unexpectedly the the services will start you
                                        Message 19 of 27 , Jul 22, 2011
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                                          you have to create the service to create a scheduled task. The reason to create services is if you server reboots unexpectedly the the services will start you service automatically where the schedule task doesnt.

                                          however every sunday we through a scheduled task shut down our app batch server, clear the cache and restart the app / bat servers.

                                          After creating the service lets say the service name was "peoplesoft d:\h90prd"

                                          you can accomplish this task with a scheduled task by
                                          create a bat file call it stop_psoft_services.bat(whatever)
                                          inside the file on one line use the bat command net start and net stop
                                          net start "PeopleSoft D:\H90prd" <== to start the service
                                          net stop "PeopleSoft D:\H90prd" <== to stop the service

                                          Hope that helps if not feel free to email me:
                                          jhunter@...



                                          --- In psftdba@yahoogroups.com, deepanshu sharma <deepanshu_elc12@...> wrote:
                                          >
                                          > Hi Clark
                                          >
                                          > I am not sure you still need that information but anyways I share my experience
                                          > while running PS App/Web/Process Scheduler services with windows scheduled
                                          > tasks.
                                          >
                                          > You gone need to create batch files to start and stop ur App / Web and Process
                                          > scheduler servers and then you need to create tasks in windows task manager for
                                          > them. The important point here to set the time of these tasks say in our case
                                          > for weekly full backup we had scheduled tasks for stopping and starting of
                                          > Application so that extra headche you need to take with windows tasks.
                                          >
                                          > The user with which task is running also comes in to picture it should have
                                          > proper access to the PS_HOME apart from that we never had much big issue while
                                          > using windows tasks (My Luck).
                                          >
                                          > Deepanshu
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > ________________________________
                                          > From: the dragon <ceprn@...>
                                          > To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                          > Sent: Tue, July 19, 2011 7:45:36 PM
                                          > Subject: PeopleSoft DBA Forum MS services vs scheduled tasks
                                          >
                                          >  
                                          > OK, I know PeopleSoft allows the creation of services on Windoze servers, and I
                                          > have seen this in action - it's usually pretty rock solid.  The client I am at
                                          > now chooses not to use services, but instead uses scheduled tasks - more because
                                          > it's "what we have always done".  So, this is a new thing to me.  Does anyone
                                          > have a better reason than "what we have always done" to use scheduled tasks vs
                                          > service?  Or has anyone ever used them for PS?  Is there any pros/cons of one vs
                                          > the other?  I know I can think of a couple, but I'm asking this of the throbbing
                                          > brain.
                                          >  
                                          > peace,
                                          > clark 'the dragon' willis
                                          >  
                                          > ----- large sig file follows - read at your own risk for enlightenment.-----
                                          >
                                          > PSA: Salary <> Slavery. If you earn a salary, your employer is renting your
                                          > services for 40 hours a week, not purchasing your soul. Your time is finite
                                          > and the only real asset that you have, and once used it can never be
                                          > recovered, so don't waste it by giving it away.
                                          >
                                          > I work to live; I don't live to work.
                                          >  
                                          > If a story is worth telling, it's worth embellishing.
                                          >  
                                          > It's not Rocket Surgery!
                                          >
                                          > "Time is the coin of your life. It is the only coin you have, and only
                                          > you can determine how it will be spent. Be careful lest you let other
                                          > people spend it for you." -- Carl Sandburg (1878 - 1967)
                                          >
                                          > "It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument." -- William G. McAdoo
                                          > "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and
                                          > by the rulers as useful." -- Seneca
                                          >
                                          > "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because
                                          > I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony
                                          >  
                                          > "Does religion calm your fears of death?" "No, but death will calm my fear
                                          > of religions."
                                          >
                                          > SIGNATURE :
                                          > Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good
                                          > with ketchup.
                                          > You've got to be a Spirit; don't need no Ghosts.
                                          > Do or Do Not; There is NO Try.
                                          > Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art !
                                          > A conclusion is simply the place where someone got tired of thinking.
                                          > When a continuing state of defiance and disorder can not be checked by the
                                          > rules, then new and sometimes drastic rules must be forged to maintain
                                          > order; the alternative is anarchy.
                                          > M. Clark Willis III - Sr Systems Analyst, Sr Consultant, PeopleSoft Admin and
                                          > Security expert, Tech Architect and team lead. ceprn@...
                                          > aolim:ceprn YIM:ceprn
                                          >
                                          > Help stamp out SPAM!! http://www.cauce.org/
                                          > The senders of unsolicited commercial e-mail to me at any site are liable
                                          > for a $500 per message cost under USC 47, which may be found at
                                          > http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47
                                          >
                                          > NOTICE:  The information contained in this message is protected under United
                                          > States and international copyright laws and is intended for the personal and
                                          > confidential use of the addressee.  If you are not the addressee or an agent
                                          > of the addressee, you are hereby notified that you have received this
                                          > message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, taking of
                                          > any action in reliance upon or copying of this message without the express
                                          > written permission of the sender or his agent is strictly prohibited and in
                                          > violation of referenced statutes.  If you have received this message in
                                          > error, please notify me (the sender) immediately and you are instructed to
                                          > delete this message from any computer it resides on, including mail servers.
                                          >
                                          > Contents of this message, in it's entirety, (c) 2000 - 2010
                                          > M. Clark Willis III / Dragon Enterprises inc.  All rights reserved.
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > Hi
                                          >
                                        • jason
                                          best thing is to create an additional web app server for your payroll department and let them run payroll of that log in. other wise not really cause even
                                          Message 20 of 27 , Jul 22, 2011
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                                            best thing is to create an additional web app server for your payroll department and let them run payroll of that log in. other wise not really cause even though you have users they all use sysadm to actually access the application.

                                            --- In psftdba@yahoogroups.com, Devesh Padmanabhan <devesh.padmanabhan@...> wrote:
                                            >
                                            > How? I don't want to kill the app-server processes.
                                            >
                                            > The management at my workplace wanted to know if there is a way to lock
                                            > people out during payroll run or change to read only.
                                            > We can change their page access but it wont take effect until they log out.
                                            >
                                            > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 5:14 PM, the dragon <ceprn@...> wrote:
                                            >
                                            > > **
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > You can kill their sessions in the app server.
                                            > >
                                            > > I guess I am wondering under what conditions you'd like to force them out
                                            > > of the system.
                                            > >
                                            > > peace,
                                            > > clark 'the dragon' willis
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > ------------------------------
                                            > > To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                            > > From: devesh.padmanabhan@...
                                            > > Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 14:32:55 -0400
                                            > > Subject: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Force Log-out a user in PeopleSoft
                                            > >
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                                          • the dragon
                                            Richard, and others who contributed, thank you - it was a great help. I actually created a change assistant package, and as soon as I put some bows on it , we
                                            Message 21 of 27 , Jul 22, 2011
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                                              Richard, and others who contributed, thank you - it was a great help.  I actually created a change assistant package, and as soon as I put some bows on it , we are going to test it.  I learned some valuable lessaons, but none of them put me in the ICU.
                                               
                                              One thing is bugging me though...  I named the project PRJ987654321, and used 987654321 as the update ID when I created the change package, but it created the change package as upd826737, and inside created a upd826737_batch and upd826737_install directory, although it created the project in PRJ987654321.  The number 826737 is the first number in the Update_ID s in the project (from all the projects I merged together).  Is there any way to make the upd number the same as the PRJ number?  And will this cause CA any confuson if the numbers are not the same?

                                              peace,
                                              clark 'the dragon' willis


                                              To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                              From: BanksR@...
                                              Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:30:27 +0000
                                              Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

                                               

                                              You’re probably better off learning more about CA outside of a patching window – there’s a lot to get your head around, and a lot of overhead.

                                               

                                              If you really want to save time, manually create your own merged project and deployment documentation and do it manually.  This is pretty much the pre req to PSCA anyway.

                                               

                                              But these are your basic steps (In App Designer)

                                               

                                              Create/Update Project - Confirm project update flags are OK then

                                              File > Project Properties > Change Project

                                              Add Update IDs

                                              Add pre reqs (but be careful - this will rarely be worth it)

                                              Create Package - Tools > Create Change Package

                                              Edit Package - update documentation (via PSCA) as required

                                              Finalize Package - Tools > Finalize Package

                                               

                                               

                                              From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                                              Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2011 07:12
                                              To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                              Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                               

                                               

                                              Duncan,
                                               
                                              I has thought of that - to apply them serially; unfortunately, the files are not in numerical order.
                                               
                                              PRJ843101 (1)
                                              PRJ860365 (2)
                                              PRJ852830 (3)
                                              PRJ866773 (4)
                                              PRJ860805 (5)
                                              PRJ867993 (6)
                                              custom project (7)
                                               
                                              Above is the order they need to go in; unfortunately, CA will run thin in this order:
                                               
                                              PRJ843101 (1)
                                              PRJ852830 (3)
                                              PRJ860365 (2)
                                              PRJ860805 (5)
                                              PRJ866773 (4)
                                              PRJ867993 (6)
                                               
                                              and I don't know where the below will go
                                              custom project

                                              peace,
                                              clark 'the dragon' willis
                                               


                                              To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                              From: duncan.davies@...
                                              Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:58:26 +0100
                                              Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                               

                                              Ah, I see what you’re asking for now. 

                                               

                                              I assumed that you had a list of projects in App Designer that you wanted bundled into a big Change Package (in which case you’d do that in App Designer using the ‘change project’).  However, it sounds as though you have a series of bundles in Change Assistant that you want merging. 

                                               

                                              I don’t know a quick way of doing that, sorry!

                                               

                                              Unless you have a LOT of environments, I’d probably make do with having all the bundles/tax updates in the CA download directory and apply them in one go (albeit serially)?

                                               

                                              Duncan

                                               

                                              From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                                              Sent: 19 July 2011 21:51
                                              To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                              Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                               

                                               

                                              Duncan,
                                               
                                              Thanks for the reply.  Alas, pardon my ignorance, but I don't see a "change project" checkbox anywhere in the change assistant - are you talking about inside the application designer?  And if in AD, I am not certain how that helps in CA.
                                               
                                              peace,
                                              clark 'the dragon' willis
                                               


                                              To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                              From: duncan.davies@...
                                              Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:39:14 +0100
                                              Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                               

                                              Clark,

                                               

                                              I think it’s as simple as checking the ‘change project’ checkbox on the project properties.  Then you’ll be able to create and finalise your change package from the Tools menu.

                                               

                                              Duncan

                                               

                                              PS. I like the sound of doing everything in a swell foop.

                                               

                                              From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                                              Sent: 19 July 2011 21:21
                                              To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                              Subject: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                               

                                               

                                              Wow!  Three questions from me in one day!  Does it get any better?
                                               
                                              In any case...
                                               
                                              I know you can use change assistant to create templates,and then jobs from scratch.  I know I can modify templates and jobs using CA.  However, is there anyway to create a change assistant package, like PS does for delivering bundles?  I have 2 bundles, 2 tax updates, 3 patches and a custom projects.  I'd like to be able to create one super package that contains everything described above, and run it in one swell foop.  Alas, I'm having some difficulties - getting java errors, and that's if I just change the name of the package and all it's parts - I think it especially doesn't like changes in the reformattedproject.xml and the project prjnnnnnn.xml, where I didn't pay attention to the "<!--Warning : Don't edit this file -->" warnings.
                                               
                                              So, any thoughts on how I can accomplish this?  How the heck does PS create upgrade packages?
                                               
                                              peace,
                                              clark ' the dragon' willis
                                               

                                               
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                                              Also, when I open my change package in CA, it appears to be mostly empty - certainly it does not contain what I expect it to - such as all the external objects
                                              Message 22 of 27 , Jul 22, 2011
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                                                Also, when I open my change package in CA, it appears to be mostly empty - certainly it does not contain what I expect it to - such as all the external objects for moving, as I dentified in the projects.  I know I need to add the data movers manually, but I expected more "stuff" in the CA template.
                                                 
                                                Am I dong something wrong, or are my expectations too high?
                                                 
                                                peace,
                                                clark 'the dragon' willis


                                                To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                From: ceprn@...
                                                Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 13:41:24 -0500
                                                Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

                                                 
                                                Richard, and others who contributed, thank you - it was a great help.  I actually created a change assistant package, and as soon as I put some bows on it , we are going to test it.  I learned some valuable lessaons, but none of them put me in the ICU.
                                                 
                                                One thing is bugging me though...  I named the project PRJ987654321, and used 987654321 as the update ID when I created the change package, but it created the change package as upd826737, and inside created a upd826737_batch and upd826737_install directory, although it created the project in PRJ987654321.  The number 826737 is the first number in the Update_ID s in the project (from all the projects I merged together).  Is there any way to make the upd number the same as the PRJ number?  And will this cause CA any confuson if the numbers are not the same?

                                                peace,
                                                clark 'the dragon' willis


                                                To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                From: BanksR@...
                                                Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:30:27 +0000
                                                Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

                                                 

                                                You’re probably better off learning more about CA outside of a patching window – there’s a lot to get your head around, and a lot of overhead.

                                                 

                                                If you really want to save time, manually create your own merged project and deployment documentation and do it manually.  This is pretty much the pre req to PSCA anyway.

                                                 

                                                But these are your basic steps (In App Designer)

                                                 

                                                Create/Update Project - Confirm project update flags are OK then

                                                File > Project Properties > Change Project

                                                Add Update IDs

                                                Add pre reqs (but be careful - this will rarely be worth it)

                                                Create Package - Tools > Create Change Package

                                                Edit Package - update documentation (via PSCA) as required

                                                Finalize Package - Tools > Finalize Package

                                                 

                                                 

                                                From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                                                Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2011 07:12
                                                To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                                 

                                                 

                                                Duncan,
                                                 
                                                I has thought of that - to apply them serially; unfortunately, the files are not in numerical order.
                                                 
                                                PRJ843101 (1)
                                                PRJ860365 (2)
                                                PRJ852830 (3)
                                                PRJ866773 (4)
                                                PRJ860805 (5)
                                                PRJ867993 (6)
                                                custom project (7)
                                                 
                                                Above is the order they need to go in; unfortunately, CA will run thin in this order:
                                                 
                                                PRJ843101 (1)
                                                PRJ852830 (3)
                                                PRJ860365 (2)
                                                PRJ860805 (5)
                                                PRJ866773 (4)
                                                PRJ867993 (6)
                                                 
                                                and I don't know where the below will go
                                                custom project

                                                peace,
                                                clark 'the dragon' willis
                                                 


                                                To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                From: duncan.davies@...
                                                Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:58:26 +0100
                                                Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                                 

                                                Ah, I see what you’re asking for now. 

                                                 

                                                I assumed that you had a list of projects in App Designer that you wanted bundled into a big Change Package (in which case you’d do that in App Designer using the ‘change project’).  However, it sounds as though you have a series of bundles in Change Assistant that you want merging. 

                                                 

                                                I don’t know a quick way of doing that, sorry!

                                                 

                                                Unless you have a LOT of environments, I’d probably make do with having all the bundles/tax updates in the CA download directory and apply them in one go (albeit serially)?

                                                 

                                                Duncan

                                                 

                                                From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                                                Sent: 19 July 2011 21:51
                                                To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                                 

                                                 

                                                Duncan,
                                                 
                                                Thanks for the reply.  Alas, pardon my ignorance, but I don't see a "change project" checkbox anywhere in the change assistant - are you talking about inside the application designer?  And if in AD, I am not certain how that helps in CA.
                                                 
                                                peace,
                                                clark 'the dragon' willis
                                                 


                                                To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                From: duncan.davies@...
                                                Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:39:14 +0100
                                                Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                                 

                                                Clark,

                                                 

                                                I think it’s as simple as checking the ‘change project’ checkbox on the project properties.  Then you’ll be able to create and finalise your change package from the Tools menu.

                                                 

                                                Duncan

                                                 

                                                PS. I like the sound of doing everything in a swell foop.

                                                 

                                                From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                                                Sent: 19 July 2011 21:21
                                                To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                Subject: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                                 

                                                 

                                                Wow!  Three questions from me in one day!  Does it get any better?
                                                 
                                                In any case...
                                                 
                                                I know you can use change assistant to create templates,and then jobs from scratch.  I know I can modify templates and jobs using CA.  However, is there anyway to create a change assistant package, like PS does for delivering bundles?  I have 2 bundles, 2 tax updates, 3 patches and a custom projects.  I'd like to be able to create one super package that contains everything described above, and run it in one swell foop.  Alas, I'm having some difficulties - getting java errors, and that's if I just change the name of the package and all it's parts - I think it especially doesn't like changes in the reformattedproject.xml and the project prjnnnnnn.xml, where I didn't pay attention to the "<!--Warning : Don't edit this file -->" warnings.
                                                 
                                                So, any thoughts on how I can accomplish this?  How the heck does PS create upgrade packages?
                                                 
                                                peace,
                                                clark ' the dragon' willis
                                                 

                                                 
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                                                PSA: Salary <> Slavery. If you earn a salary, your employer is renting your
                                                services for 40 hours a week, not purchasing your soul. Your time is finite

                                                and the only real asset that you have, and once used it can never be
                                                recovered, so don't waste it by giving it away.


                                                I work to live; I don't live to work.
                                                 
                                                If a story is worth telling, it's worth embellishing.
                                                 
                                                It's not Rocket Surgery!

                                                "Time is the coin of your life. It is the only coin you have, and only
                                                you can determine how it will be spent. Be careful lest you let other
                                                people spend it for you." -- Carl Sandburg (1878 - 1967)


                                                "It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument." -- William G. McAdoo
                                                "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and
                                                by the rulers as useful." -- Seneca


                                                "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because
                                                I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony

                                                 
                                                "Does religion calm your fears of death?" "No, but death will calm my fear
                                                of religions."

                                                SIGNATURE :
                                                Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good
                                                with ketchup.
                                                You've got to be a Spirit; don't need no Ghosts.
                                                Do or Do Not; There is NO Try.
                                                Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art !
                                                A conclusion is simply the place where someone got tired of thinking.
                                                When a continuing state of defiance and disorder can not be checked by the
                                                rules, then new and sometimes drastic rules must be forged to maintain
                                                order; the alternative is anarchy.
                                                M. Clark Willis III - Sr Systems Analyst, Sr Consultant, PeopleSoft Admin and

                                                Security expert, Tech Architect and team lead. ceprn@...
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                                                I tried something else, and created a directory with the external files, and created the CA package - it still doesn t have the files added; I also created the
                                                Message 23 of 27 , Jul 22, 2011
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                                                  I tried something else, and created a directory with the external files, and created the CA package - it still doesn't have the files added; I also created the file reference directory with the appropriate subdirectories with the files in them - still no dice - the only files I end up with are a data and scripts directory, with msg and role dms and dat files.
                                                   
                                                  What am I missing here?
                                                   
                                                  peace,
                                                  clark 'the dragon' willis


                                                  To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                  From: ceprn@...
                                                  Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:35:10 -0500
                                                  Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

                                                   
                                                  Also, when I open my change package in CA, it appears to be mostly empty - certainly it does not contain what I expect it to - such as all the external objects for moving, as I dentified in the projects.  I know I need to add the data movers manually, but I expected more "stuff" in the CA template.
                                                   
                                                  Am I dong something wrong, or are my expectations too high?
                                                   
                                                  peace,
                                                  clark 'the dragon' willis


                                                  To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                  From: ceprn@...
                                                  Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 13:41:24 -0500
                                                  Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

                                                   
                                                  Richard, and others who contributed, thank you - it was a great help.  I actually created a change assistant package, and as soon as I put some bows on it , we are going to test it.  I learned some valuable lessaons, but none of them put me in the ICU.
                                                   
                                                  One thing is bugging me though...  I named the project PRJ987654321, and used 987654321 as the update ID when I created the change package, but it created the change package as upd826737, and inside created a upd826737_batch and upd826737_install directory, although it created the project in PRJ987654321.  The number 826737 is the first number in the Update_ID s in the project (from all the projects I merged together).  Is there any way to make the upd number the same as the PRJ number?  And will this cause CA any confuson if the numbers are not the same?

                                                  peace,
                                                  clark 'the dragon' willis


                                                  To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                  From: BanksR@...
                                                  Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:30:27 +0000
                                                  Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

                                                   

                                                  You’re probably better off learning more about CA outside of a patching window – there’s a lot to get your head around, and a lot of overhead.

                                                   

                                                  If you really want to save time, manually create your own merged project and deployment documentation and do it manually.  This is pretty much the pre req to PSCA anyway.

                                                   

                                                  But these are your basic steps (In App Designer)

                                                   

                                                  Create/Update Project - Confirm project update flags are OK then

                                                  File > Project Properties > Change Project

                                                  Add Update IDs

                                                  Add pre reqs (but be careful - this will rarely be worth it)

                                                  Create Package - Tools > Create Change Package

                                                  Edit Package - update documentation (via PSCA) as required

                                                  Finalize Package - Tools > Finalize Package

                                                   

                                                   

                                                  From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                                                  Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2011 07:12
                                                  To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                  Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                                   

                                                   

                                                  Duncan,
                                                   
                                                  I has thought of that - to apply them serially; unfortunately, the files are not in numerical order.
                                                   
                                                  PRJ843101 (1)
                                                  PRJ860365 (2)
                                                  PRJ852830 (3)
                                                  PRJ866773 (4)
                                                  PRJ860805 (5)
                                                  PRJ867993 (6)
                                                  custom project (7)
                                                   
                                                  Above is the order they need to go in; unfortunately, CA will run thin in this order:
                                                   
                                                  PRJ843101 (1)
                                                  PRJ852830 (3)
                                                  PRJ860365 (2)
                                                  PRJ860805 (5)
                                                  PRJ866773 (4)
                                                  PRJ867993 (6)
                                                   
                                                  and I don't know where the below will go
                                                  custom project

                                                  peace,
                                                  clark 'the dragon' willis
                                                   


                                                  To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                  From: duncan.davies@...
                                                  Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:58:26 +0100
                                                  Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                                   

                                                  Ah, I see what you’re asking for now. 

                                                   

                                                  I assumed that you had a list of projects in App Designer that you wanted bundled into a big Change Package (in which case you’d do that in App Designer using the ‘change project’).  However, it sounds as though you have a series of bundles in Change Assistant that you want merging. 

                                                   

                                                  I don’t know a quick way of doing that, sorry!

                                                   

                                                  Unless you have a LOT of environments, I’d probably make do with having all the bundles/tax updates in the CA download directory and apply them in one go (albeit serially)?

                                                   

                                                  Duncan

                                                   

                                                  From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                                                  Sent: 19 July 2011 21:51
                                                  To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                  Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                                   

                                                   

                                                  Duncan,
                                                   
                                                  Thanks for the reply.  Alas, pardon my ignorance, but I don't see a "change project" checkbox anywhere in the change assistant - are you talking about inside the application designer?  And if in AD, I am not certain how that helps in CA.
                                                   
                                                  peace,
                                                  clark 'the dragon' willis
                                                   


                                                  To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                  From: duncan.davies@...
                                                  Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:39:14 +0100
                                                  Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                                   

                                                  Clark,

                                                   

                                                  I think it’s as simple as checking the ‘change project’ checkbox on the project properties.  Then you’ll be able to create and finalise your change package from the Tools menu.

                                                   

                                                  Duncan

                                                   

                                                  PS. I like the sound of doing everything in a swell foop.

                                                   

                                                  From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                                                  Sent: 19 July 2011 21:21
                                                  To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                  Subject: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                                   

                                                   

                                                  Wow!  Three questions from me in one day!  Does it get any better?
                                                   
                                                  In any case...
                                                   
                                                  I know you can use change assistant to create templates,and then jobs from scratch.  I know I can modify templates and jobs using CA.  However, is there anyway to create a change assistant package, like PS does for delivering bundles?  I have 2 bundles, 2 tax updates, 3 patches and a custom projects.  I'd like to be able to create one super package that contains everything described above, and run it in one swell foop.  Alas, I'm having some difficulties - getting java errors, and that's if I just change the name of the package and all it's parts - I think it especially doesn't like changes in the reformattedproject.xml and the project prjnnnnnn.xml, where I didn't pay attention to the "<!--Warning : Don't edit this file -->" warnings.
                                                   
                                                  So, any thoughts on how I can accomplish this?  How the heck does PS create upgrade packages?
                                                   
                                                  peace,
                                                  clark ' the dragon' willis
                                                   

                                                   
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                                                • BANKS, Richard
                                                  Have you read up on how file references work (these are added to the project) and file types (PSIDE Tools Misc File Type Codes) FYI - at our site, the
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                                                    Have you read up on how file references work (these are added to the project) and file types (PSIDE>  Tools > Misc > File Type Codes)

                                                     

                                                    FYI - at our site, the best way to save time with CA is to manually migrate all files (sqr, crw, cobol, etc) before applying the package– it was taking forever on PT8.49.07 using CA to deploy files.  We just mark those steps as complete when using the delivered packages.

                                                     

                                                    Now you know enough to be dangerous, you should re read the CA peoplebook:

                                                    http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E18083_01/pt851pbr0/eng/psbooks/tswu/book.htm

                                                     

                                                    From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                                                    Sent: Saturday, 23 July 2011 07:06
                                                    To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                    Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

                                                     

                                                     

                                                    I tried something else, and created a directory with the external files, and created the CA package - it still doesn't have the files added; I also created the file reference directory with the appropriate subdirectories with the files in them - still no dice - the only files I end up with are a data and scripts directory, with msg and role dms and dat files.
                                                     
                                                    What am I missing here?
                                                     
                                                    peace,
                                                    clark 'the dragon' willis


                                                    To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                    From: ceprn@...
                                                    Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:35:10 -0500
                                                    Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

                                                     

                                                    Also, when I open my change package in CA, it appears to be mostly empty - certainly it does not contain what I expect it to - such as all the external objects for moving, as I dentified in the projects.  I know I need to add the data movers manually, but I expected more "stuff" in the CA template.
                                                     
                                                    Am I dong something wrong, or are my expectations too high?
                                                     
                                                    peace,
                                                    clark 'the dragon' willis


                                                    To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                    From: ceprn@...
                                                    Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 13:41:24 -0500
                                                    Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

                                                     

                                                    Richard, and others who contributed, thank you - it was a great help.  I actually created a change assistant package, and as soon as I put some bows on it , we are going to test it.  I learned some valuable lessaons, but none of them put me in the ICU.
                                                     
                                                    One thing is bugging me though...  I named the project PRJ987654321, and used 987654321 as the update ID when I created the change package, but it created the change package as upd826737, and inside created a upd826737_batch and upd826737_install directory, although it created the project in PRJ987654321.  The number 826737 is the first number in the Update_ID s in the project (from all the projects I merged together).  Is there any way to make the upd number the same as the PRJ number?  And will this cause CA any confuson if the numbers are not the same?

                                                    peace,
                                                    clark 'the dragon' willis


                                                    To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                    From: BanksR@...
                                                    Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:30:27 +0000
                                                    Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

                                                     

                                                    You’re probably better off learning more about CA outside of a patching window – there’s a lot to get your head around, and a lot of overhead.

                                                     

                                                    If you really want to save time, manually create your own merged project and deployment documentation and do it manually.  This is pretty much the pre req to PSCA anyway.

                                                     

                                                    But these are your basic steps (In App Designer)

                                                     

                                                    Create/Update Project - Confirm project update flags are OK then

                                                    File > Project Properties > Change Project

                                                    Add Update IDs

                                                    Add pre reqs (but be careful - this will rarely be worth it)

                                                    Create Package - Tools > Create Change Package

                                                    Edit Package - update documentation (via PSCA) as required

                                                    Finalize Package - Tools > Finalize Package

                                                     

                                                     

                                                    From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                                                    Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2011 07:12
                                                    To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                    Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                                     

                                                     

                                                    Duncan,
                                                     
                                                    I has thought of that - to apply them serially; unfortunately, the files are not in numerical order.
                                                     
                                                    PRJ843101 (1)
                                                    PRJ860365 (2)
                                                    PRJ852830 (3)
                                                    PRJ866773 (4)
                                                    PRJ860805 (5)
                                                    PRJ867993 (6)
                                                    custom project (7)
                                                     
                                                    Above is the order they need to go in; unfortunately, CA will run thin in this order:
                                                     
                                                    PRJ843101 (1)
                                                    PRJ852830 (3)
                                                    PRJ860365 (2)
                                                    PRJ860805 (5)
                                                    PRJ866773 (4)
                                                    PRJ867993 (6)
                                                     
                                                    and I don't know where the below will go
                                                    custom project

                                                    peace,
                                                    clark 'the dragon' willis
                                                     


                                                    To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                    From: duncan.davies@...
                                                    Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:58:26 +0100
                                                    Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                                     

                                                    Ah, I see what you’re asking for now. 

                                                     

                                                    I assumed that you had a list of projects in App Designer that you wanted bundled into a big Change Package (in which case you’d do that in App Designer using the ‘change project’).  However, it sounds as though you have a series of bundles in Change Assistant that you want merging. 

                                                     

                                                    I don’t know a quick way of doing that, sorry!

                                                     

                                                    Unless you have a LOT of environments, I’d probably make do with having all the bundles/tax updates in the CA download directory and apply them in one go (albeit serially)?

                                                     

                                                    Duncan

                                                     

                                                    From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                                                    Sent: 19 July 2011 21:51
                                                    To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                    Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                                     

                                                     

                                                    Duncan,
                                                     
                                                    Thanks for the reply.  Alas, pardon my ignorance, but I don't see a "change project" checkbox anywhere in the change assistant - are you talking about inside the application designer?  And if in AD, I am not certain how that helps in CA.
                                                     
                                                    peace,
                                                    clark 'the dragon' willis
                                                     


                                                    To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                    From: duncan.davies@...
                                                    Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:39:14 +0100
                                                    Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                                     

                                                    Clark,

                                                     

                                                    I think it’s as simple as checking the ‘change project’ checkbox on the project properties.  Then you’ll be able to create and finalise your change package from the Tools menu.

                                                     

                                                    Duncan

                                                     

                                                    PS. I like the sound of doing everything in a swell foop.

                                                     

                                                    From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                                                    Sent: 19 July 2011 21:21
                                                    To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                    Subject: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                                     

                                                     

                                                    Wow!  Three questions from me in one day!  Does it get any better?
                                                     
                                                    In any case...
                                                     
                                                    I know you can use change assistant to create templates,and then jobs from scratch.  I know I can modify templates and jobs using CA.  However, is there anyway to create a change assistant package, like PS does for delivering bundles?  I have 2 bundles, 2 tax updates, 3 patches and a custom projects.  I'd like to be able to create one super package that contains everything described above, and run it in one swell foop.  Alas, I'm having some difficulties - getting java errors, and that's if I just change the name of the package and all it's parts - I think it especially doesn't like changes in the reformattedproject.xml and the project prjnnnnnn.xml, where I didn't pay attention to the "<!--Warning : Don't edit this file -->" warnings.
                                                     
                                                    So, any thoughts on how I can accomplish this?  How the heck does PS create upgrade packages?
                                                     
                                                    peace,
                                                    clark ' the dragon' willis
                                                     

                                                     
                                                    ----- long sig file; read at your own risk, for your own edification -----

                                                    PSA: Salary <> Slavery. If you earn a salary, your employer is renting your
                                                    services for 40 hours a week, not purchasing your soul. Your time is finite

                                                    and the only real asset that you have, and once used it can never be
                                                    recovered, so don't waste it by giving it away.


                                                    I work to live; I don't live to work.
                                                     
                                                    If a story is worth telling, it's worth embellishing.
                                                     
                                                    It's not Rocket Surgery!

                                                    "Time is the coin of your life. It is the only coin you have, and only
                                                    you can determine how it will be spent. Be careful lest you let other
                                                    people spend it for you." -- Carl Sandburg (1878 - 1967)


                                                    "It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument." -- William G. McAdoo
                                                    "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and
                                                    by the rulers as useful." -- Seneca


                                                    "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because
                                                    I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony

                                                     
                                                    "Does religion calm your fears of death?" "No, but death will calm my fear
                                                    of religions."

                                                    SIGNATURE :
                                                    Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good
                                                    with ketchup.
                                                    You've got to be a Spirit; don't need no Ghosts.
                                                    Do or Do Not; There is NO Try.
                                                    Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art !
                                                    A conclusion is simply the place where someone got tired of thinking.
                                                    When a continuing state of defiance and disorder can not be checked by the
                                                    rules, then new and sometimes drastic rules must be forged to maintain
                                                    order; the alternative is anarchy.
                                                    M. Clark Willis III - Sr Systems Analyst, Sr Consultant, PeopleSoft Admin and

                                                    Security expert, Tech Architect and team lead. ceprn@...
                                                    aolim:ceprn YIM:ceprn


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                                                  • BANKS, Richard
                                                    Not sure what s going on here. I am pretty sure the first Update ID in the package is special , according to PSCA. This may explain your problem. I
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                                                      Not sure what’s going on here.  I am pretty sure the first Update ID in the package is ‘special’, according to PSCA.  This may explain your problem.  I encourage you to log these questions as SRs with Oracle – the Tools support teams are pretty responsive (unlike Apps!) and have helped us at least explain what it’s doing.  Don’t be afraid to hack the project tables via SQL and just see what it does.

                                                       

                                                      Note also there is an implicit step added at the end of a package, that will insert into PS_MAINTENANCE_LOG, using the update IDs specified in the project.  It also checks this table for pre reqs prior to application.  There is a ‘feature’ in that it expects all changes to be applied by PPLSOFT user, so if you start using PSCA using your own site specific user profiles (as you would), this can confuse PSCA – it will say pre req not installed.  As such you may need old school DMS or SQL to prep the maintenance log table prior to using PSCA.

                                                       

                                                       

                                                      From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                                                      Sent: Saturday, 23 July 2011 04:41
                                                      To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                      Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

                                                       

                                                       

                                                      Richard, and others who contributed, thank you - it was a great help.  I actually created a change assistant package, and as soon as I put some bows on it , we are going to test it.  I learned some valuable lessaons, but none of them put me in the ICU.
                                                       
                                                      One thing is bugging me though...  I named the project PRJ987654321, and used 987654321 as the update ID when I created the change package, but it created the change package as upd826737, and inside created a upd826737_batch and upd826737_install directory, although it created the project in PRJ987654321.  The number 826737 is the first number in the Update_ID s in the project (from all the projects I merged together).  Is there any way to make the upd number the same as the PRJ number?  And will this cause CA any confuson if the numbers are not the same?

                                                      peace,
                                                      clark 'the dragon' willis


                                                      To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                      From: BanksR@...
                                                      Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:30:27 +0000
                                                      Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

                                                       

                                                      You’re probably better off learning more about CA outside of a patching window – there’s a lot to get your head around, and a lot of overhead.

                                                       

                                                      If you really want to save time, manually create your own merged project and deployment documentation and do it manually.  This is pretty much the pre req to PSCA anyway.

                                                       

                                                      But these are your basic steps (In App Designer)

                                                       

                                                      Create/Update Project - Confirm project update flags are OK then

                                                      File > Project Properties > Change Project

                                                      Add Update IDs

                                                      Add pre reqs (but be careful - this will rarely be worth it)

                                                      Create Package - Tools > Create Change Package

                                                      Edit Package - update documentation (via PSCA) as required

                                                      Finalize Package - Tools > Finalize Package

                                                       

                                                       

                                                      From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                                                      Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2011 07:12
                                                      To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                      Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                                       

                                                       

                                                      Duncan,
                                                       
                                                      I has thought of that - to apply them serially; unfortunately, the files are not in numerical order.
                                                       
                                                      PRJ843101 (1)
                                                      PRJ860365 (2)
                                                      PRJ852830 (3)
                                                      PRJ866773 (4)
                                                      PRJ860805 (5)
                                                      PRJ867993 (6)
                                                      custom project (7)
                                                       
                                                      Above is the order they need to go in; unfortunately, CA will run thin in this order:
                                                       
                                                      PRJ843101 (1)
                                                      PRJ852830 (3)
                                                      PRJ860365 (2)
                                                      PRJ860805 (5)
                                                      PRJ866773 (4)
                                                      PRJ867993 (6)
                                                       
                                                      and I don't know where the below will go
                                                      custom project

                                                      peace,
                                                      clark 'the dragon' willis
                                                       


                                                      To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                      From: duncan.davies@...
                                                      Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:58:26 +0100
                                                      Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                                       

                                                      Ah, I see what you’re asking for now. 

                                                       

                                                      I assumed that you had a list of projects in App Designer that you wanted bundled into a big Change Package (in which case you’d do that in App Designer using the ‘change project’).  However, it sounds as though you have a series of bundles in Change Assistant that you want merging. 

                                                       

                                                      I don’t know a quick way of doing that, sorry!

                                                       

                                                      Unless you have a LOT of environments, I’d probably make do with having all the bundles/tax updates in the CA download directory and apply them in one go (albeit serially)?

                                                       

                                                      Duncan

                                                       

                                                      From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                                                      Sent: 19 July 2011 21:51
                                                      To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                      Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                                       

                                                       

                                                      Duncan,
                                                       
                                                      Thanks for the reply.  Alas, pardon my ignorance, but I don't see a "change project" checkbox anywhere in the change assistant - are you talking about inside the application designer?  And if in AD, I am not certain how that helps in CA.
                                                       
                                                      peace,
                                                      clark 'the dragon' willis
                                                       


                                                      To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                      From: duncan.davies@...
                                                      Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:39:14 +0100
                                                      Subject: RE: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                                       

                                                      Clark,

                                                       

                                                      I think it’s as simple as checking the ‘change project’ checkbox on the project properties.  Then you’ll be able to create and finalise your change package from the Tools menu.

                                                       

                                                      Duncan

                                                       

                                                      PS. I like the sound of doing everything in a swell foop.

                                                       

                                                      From: psftdba@yahoogroups.com [mailto:psftdba@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of the dragon
                                                      Sent: 19 July 2011 21:21
                                                      To: psftdba@yahoogroups.com
                                                      Subject: PeopleSoft DBA Forum Creating change assistant package

                                                       

                                                       

                                                      Wow!  Three questions from me in one day!  Does it get any better?
                                                       
                                                      In any case...
                                                       
                                                      I know you can use change assistant to create templates,and then jobs from scratch.  I know I can modify templates and jobs using CA.  However, is there anyway to create a change assistant package, like PS does for delivering bundles?  I have 2 bundles, 2 tax updates, 3 patches and a custom projects.  I'd like to be able to create one super package that contains everything described above, and run it in one swell foop.  Alas, I'm having some difficulties - getting java errors, and that's if I just change the name of the package and all it's parts - I think it especially doesn't like changes in the reformattedproject.xml and the project prjnnnnnn.xml, where I didn't pay attention to the "<!--Warning : Don't edit this file -->" warnings.
                                                       
                                                      So, any thoughts on how I can accomplish this?  How the heck does PS create upgrade packages?
                                                       
                                                      peace,
                                                      clark ' the dragon' willis
                                                       

                                                       
                                                      ----- long sig file; read at your own risk, for your own edification -----

                                                      PSA: Salary <> Slavery. If you earn a salary, your employer is renting your
                                                      services for 40 hours a week, not purchasing your soul. Your time is finite

                                                      and the only real asset that you have, and once used it can never be
                                                      recovered, so don't waste it by giving it away.


                                                      I work to live; I don't live to work.
                                                       
                                                      If a story is worth telling, it's worth embellishing.
                                                       
                                                      It's not Rocket Surgery!

                                                      "Time is the coin of your life. It is the only coin you have, and only
                                                      you can determine how it will be spent. Be careful lest you let other
                                                      people spend it for you." -- Carl Sandburg (1878 - 1967)


                                                      "It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument." -- William G. McAdoo
                                                      "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and
                                                      by the rulers as useful." -- Seneca


                                                      "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because
                                                      I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony

                                                       
                                                      "Does religion calm your fears of death?" "No, but death will calm my fear
                                                      of religions."

                                                      SIGNATURE :
                                                      Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good
                                                      with ketchup.
                                                      You've got to be a Spirit; don't need no Ghosts.
                                                      Do or Do Not; There is NO Try.
                                                      Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art !
                                                      A conclusion is simply the place where someone got tired of thinking.
                                                      When a continuing state of defiance and disorder can not be checked by the
                                                      rules, then new and sometimes drastic rules must be forged to maintain
                                                      order; the alternative is anarchy.
                                                      M. Clark Willis III - Sr Systems Analyst, Sr Consultant, PeopleSoft Admin and

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