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Annual cost of treating PCa

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  • David Emerson
    I posted this last year and it generated quite a bit of disuccion. Here is the annual report from my insurance compant (United HealthCare) Billed Amount:
    Message 1 of 8 , Jan 17, 2012
      I posted this last year and it generated quite a bit of disuccion.
      Here is the annual report from my insurance compant (United HealthCare)
       
      Billed Amount:  $144,338.80
      Paid by Plan:    $  67,646.60
      Patient Paid:     $  3,000.00

      This spans Jan 1, 2011 to Dec 21, 2011
      From Jan to June I saw a local oncologist for Lupron and Zometa and June to December the same Onc administered Firmagon and Xgeva.

      Late Jan to June I went to Atlanta aprox 10 times as part of the Zytiga open access trial.

      From August to December I have been traveling to Boston

      (7 times) to participate in the Cabozantinib (XL-184 trial).
       
      The totals above do not include cost of the trial drugs (Zytiga
      or XL-184).
                     
      --
      David Emerson
      www.flhw.org
      Every 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.
      Every 16.5 minutes a man dies from the disease.
    • Barry Rosenfeld
      I guess it really is all about the MONEY! It s a good thing you have it! BR
      Message 2 of 8 , Jan 17, 2012
        I guess it really is all about the MONEY! It's a good thing you have it!
        BR


        On Jan 17, 2012, at 12:07 PM, David Emerson wrote:

         

        I posted this last year and it generated quite a bit of disuccion.
        Here is the annual report from my insurance compant (United HealthCare)
         
        Billed Amount:  $144,338.80
        Paid by Plan:    $  67,646.60
        Patient Paid:     $  3,000.00

        This spans Jan 1, 2011 to Dec 21, 2011
        From Jan to June I saw a local oncologist for Lupron and Zometa and June to December the same Onc administered Firmagon and Xgeva.

        Late Jan to June I went to Atlanta aprox 10 times as part of the Zytiga open access trial.

        From August to December I have been traveling to Boston

        (7 times) to participate in the Cabozantinib (XL-184 trial).
         
        The totals above do not include cost of the trial drugs (Zytiga
        or XL-184).
                       
        --
        David Emerson
        www.flhw.org
        Every 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.
        Every 16.5 minutes a man dies from the disease.


      • David Emerson
        In this case I would argue it s about the insurance, not the money. I was only out 2% ($3,000) of the Billed Amount or a little more than 4% of the amount paid
        Message 3 of 8 , Jan 17, 2012
          In this case I would argue it's about the insurance, not the money. 
          I was only out 2% ($3,000) of the Billed Amount or a little more than 4% of 
          the amount paid by the plan.

          On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Barry Rosenfeld <BarryRosenfeld@...> wrote:
           

          I guess it really is all about the MONEY! It's a good thing you have it!

          BR


          On Jan 17, 2012, at 12:07 PM, David Emerson wrote:

           

          I posted this last year and it generated quite a bit of disuccion.
          Here is the annual report from my insurance compant (United HealthCare)
           
          Billed Amount:  $144,338.80
          Paid by Plan:    $  67,646.60
          Patient Paid:     $  3,000.00

          This spans Jan 1, 2011 to Dec 21, 2011
          From Jan to June I saw a local oncologist for Lupron and Zometa and June to December the same Onc administered Firmagon and Xgeva.

          Late Jan to June I went to Atlanta aprox 10 times as part of the Zytiga open access trial.

          From August to December I have been traveling to Boston

          (7 times) to participate in the Cabozantinib (XL-184 trial).
           
          The totals above do not include cost of the trial drugs (Zytiga
          or XL-184).
                         
          --
          David Emerson
          www.flhw.org
          Every 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.
          Every 16.5 minutes a man dies from the disease.





          --
          David Emerson
          www.flhw.org
          Every 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.
          Every 16.5 minutes a man dies from the disease.
        • Barry Rosenfeld
          Many people don t have the 3K, be grateful that you do!
          Message 4 of 8 , Jan 17, 2012
            Many people don't have the 3K, be grateful that you do!

            On Jan 17, 2012, at 3:48 PM, David Emerson wrote:

             

            In this case I would argue it's about the insurance, not the money. 

            I was only out 2% ($3,000) of the Billed Amount or a little more than 4% of 
            the amount paid by the plan.

            On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Barry Rosenfeld <BarryRosenfeld@...> wrote:
             

            I guess it really is all about the MONEY! It's a good thing you have it!

            BR


            On Jan 17, 2012, at 12:07 PM, David Emerson wrote:

             

            I posted this last year and it generated quite a bit of disuccion.
            Here is the annual report from my insurance compant (United HealthCare)
             
            Billed Amount:  $144,338.80
            Paid by Plan:    $  67,646.60
            Patient Paid:     $  3,000.00

            This spans Jan 1, 2011 to Dec 21, 2011
            From Jan to June I saw a local oncologist for Lupron and Zometa and June to December the same Onc administered Firmagon and Xgeva.

            Late Jan to June I went to Atlanta aprox 10 times as part of the Zytiga open access trial.

            From August to December I have been traveling to Boston

            (7 times) to participate in the Cabozantinib (XL-184 trial).
             
            The totals above do not include cost of the trial drugs (Zytiga
            or XL-184).
                           
            --
            David Emerson
            www.flhw.org
            Every 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.
            Every 16.5 minutes a man dies from the disease.






            --
            David Emerson
            www.flhw.org
            Every 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.
            Every 16.5 minutes a man dies from the disease.


          • James Bober
            And you could have saved  a little more if your employer offers a health care savings account (HSA) most do, and you have your $3,000 deductible taken out
            Message 5 of 8 , Jan 18, 2012
              And you could have saved  a little more if your employer offers a health care savings account (HSA) most do, and you have your $3,000 deductible taken out before taxes and spread across your pay periods.  This way you would have paid taxes on the $3,000 -every little bit helps.
               
              More importantly, after all these leading treatments...Zytiga, XL-184, what's the prognosis?
               
              Jim Bober

              --- On Tue, 1/17/12, David Emerson <davidemerson@...> wrote:

              From: David Emerson <davidemerson@...>
              Subject: Re: ProstateCancerUnder50 Malecare Group Annual cost of treating PCa
              To: prostatecancerunder50@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Tuesday, January 17, 2012, 3:48 PM

               
              In this case I would argue it's about the insurance, not the money. 
              I was only out 2% ($3,000) of the Billed Amount or a little more than 4% of 
              the amount paid by the plan.

              On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Barry Rosenfeld <BarryRosenfeld@...> wrote:
               
              I guess it really is all about the MONEY! It's a good thing you have it!
              BR


              On Jan 17, 2012, at 12:07 PM, David Emerson wrote:

               

              I posted this last year and it generated quite a bit of disuccion.
              Here is the annual report from my insurance compant (United HealthCare)
               
              Billed Amount:  $144,338.80
              Paid by Plan:    $  67,646.60
              Patient Paid:     $  3,000.00
              This spans Jan 1, 2011 to Dec 21, 2011
              From Jan to June I saw a local oncologist for Lupron and Zometa and June to December the same Onc administered Firmagon and Xgeva.
              Late Jan to June I went to Atlanta aprox 10 times as part of the Zytiga open access trial.
              From August to December I have been traveling to Boston
              (7 times) to participate in the Cabozantinib (XL-184 trial).
               
              The totals above do not include cost of the trial drugs (Zytiga
              or XL-184).
                             
              --
              David Emerson
              www.flhw.org
              Every 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.
              Every 16.5 minutes a man dies from the disease.





              --
              David Emerson
              www.flhw.org
              Every 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.
              Every 16.5 minutes a man dies from the disease.
            • David Emerson
              ZYtiga did very little except may slow down the rate of PSA progression. The XL-184 only uses bone scans to determine regression/progression. My last scan on
              Message 6 of 8 , Jan 18, 2012
                ZYtiga did very little except may slow down the rate of PSA progression. The XL-184 only uses
                bone scans to determine regression/progression. My last scan on 11-22-11 showed significant reduction
                in the number of areas and overall size of the mets.
                 
                As I wrote in another post, the main side effects are fatigue, loss of appetite and diarrhea.

                On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 5:28 AM, James Bober <james_bober@...> wrote:
                 

                And you could have saved  a little more if your employer offers a health care savings account (HSA) most do, and you have your $3,000 deductible taken out before taxes and spread across your pay periods.  This way you would have paid taxes on the $3,000 -every little bit helps.
                 
                More importantly, after all these leading treatments...Zytiga, XL-184, what's the prognosis?
                 
                Jim Bober

                --- On Tue, 1/17/12, David Emerson <davidemerson@...> wrote:

                From: David Emerson <davidemerson@...>
                Subject: Re: ProstateCancerUnder50 Malecare Group Annual cost of treating PCa
                To: prostatecancerunder50@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Tuesday, January 17, 2012, 3:48 PM

                 
                In this case I would argue it's about the insurance, not the money. 
                I was only out 2% ($3,000) of the Billed Amount or a little more than 4% of 
                the amount paid by the plan.

                On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Barry Rosenfeld <BarryRosenfeld@...> wrote:
                 
                I guess it really is all about the MONEY! It's a good thing you have it!
                BR


                On Jan 17, 2012, at 12:07 PM, David Emerson wrote:

                 

                I posted this last year and it generated quite a bit of disuccion.
                Here is the annual report from my insurance compant (United HealthCare)
                 
                Billed Amount:  $144,338.80
                Paid by Plan:    $  67,646.60
                Patient Paid:     $  3,000.00
                This spans Jan 1, 2011 to Dec 21, 2011
                From Jan to June I saw a local oncologist for Lupron and Zometa and June to December the same Onc administered Firmagon and Xgeva.
                Late Jan to June I went to Atlanta aprox 10 times as part of the Zytiga open access trial.
                From August to December I have been traveling to Boston
                (7 times) to participate in the Cabozantinib (XL-184 trial).
                 
                The totals above do not include cost of the trial drugs (Zytiga
                or XL-184).
                               
                --
                David Emerson
                www.flhw.org
                Every 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.
                Every 16.5 minutes a man dies from the disease.





                --
                David Emerson
                www.flhw.org
                Every 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.
                Every 16.5 minutes a man dies from the disease.




                --
                David Emerson
                www.flhw.org
                Every 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.
                Every 16.5 minutes a man dies from the disease.
              • James Bober
                Thanks David.   Seems like I m one step behind you.  Zytiga did do nothing for me.  I m currently going through Jevtana chemo and after that going into an
                Message 7 of 8 , Jan 18, 2012
                  Thanks David.
                   
                  Seems like I'm one step behind you.  Zytiga did do nothing for me.  I'm currently going through Jevtana chemo and after that going into an XL-184 trial at the Duke Prostate Clinic mid-year.
                   
                  Fight the good fight.
                   
                  Jim Bober

                  --- On Wed, 1/18/12, David Emerson <davidemerson@...> wrote:

                  From: David Emerson <davidemerson@...>
                  Subject: Re: ProstateCancerUnder50 Malecare Group Annual cost of treating PCa
                  To: prostatecancerunder50@yahoogroups.com
                  Date: Wednesday, January 18, 2012, 10:11 AM

                   
                  ZYtiga did very little except may slow down the rate of PSA progression. The XL-184 only uses
                  bone scans to determine regression/progression. My last scan on 11-22-11 showed significant reduction
                  in the number of areas and overall size of the mets.
                   
                  As I wrote in another post, the main side effects are fatigue, loss of appetite and diarrhea.

                  On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 5:28 AM, James Bober <james_bober@...> wrote:
                   
                  And you could have saved  a little more if your employer offers a health care savings account (HSA) most do, and you have your $3,000 deductible taken out before taxes and spread across your pay periods.  This way you would have paid taxes on the $3,000 -every little bit helps.
                   
                  More importantly, after all these leading treatments...Zytiga, XL-184, what's the prognosis?
                   
                  Jim Bober

                  --- On Tue, 1/17/12, David Emerson <davidemerson@...> wrote:

                  From: David Emerson <davidemerson@...>
                  Subject: Re: ProstateCancerUnder50 Malecare Group Annual cost of treating PCa
                  To: prostatecancerunder50@yahoogroups.com
                  Date: Tuesday, January 17, 2012, 3:48 PM

                   
                  In this case I would argue it's about the insurance, not the money. 
                  I was only out 2% ($3,000) of the Billed Amount or a little more than 4% of 
                  the amount paid by the plan.

                  On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Barry Rosenfeld <BarryRosenfeld@...> wrote:
                   
                  I guess it really is all about the MONEY! It's a good thing you have it!
                  BR


                  On Jan 17, 2012, at 12:07 PM, David Emerson wrote:

                   

                  I posted this last year and it generated quite a bit of disuccion.
                  Here is the annual report from my insurance compant (United HealthCare)
                   
                  Billed Amount:  $144,338.80
                  Paid by Plan:    $  67,646.60
                  Patient Paid:     $  3,000.00
                  This spans Jan 1, 2011 to Dec 21, 2011
                  From Jan to June I saw a local oncologist for Lupron and Zometa and June to December the same Onc administered Firmagon and Xgeva.
                  Late Jan to June I went to Atlanta aprox 10 times as part of the Zytiga open access trial.
                  From August to December I have been traveling to Boston
                  (7 times) to participate in the Cabozantinib (XL-184 trial).
                   
                  The totals above do not include cost of the trial drugs (Zytiga
                  or XL-184).
                                 
                  --
                  David Emerson
                  www.flhw.org
                  Every 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.
                  Every 16.5 minutes a man dies from the disease.





                  --
                  David Emerson
                  www.flhw.org
                  Every 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.
                  Every 16.5 minutes a man dies from the disease.



                  --
                  David Emerson
                  www.flhw.org
                  Every 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.
                  Every 16.5 minutes a man dies from the disease.
                • David Emerson
                  As you get closer to entering the trial at Duke, feel free to reach out with questions. ... -- *David Emerson* *www.flhw.org* Every 2.25 minutes a man is
                  Message 8 of 8 , Jan 19, 2012
                    As you get closer to entering the trial at Duke, feel free to reach out with questions.

                    On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:57 PM, James Bober <james_bober@...> wrote:
                     

                    Thanks David.
                     
                    Seems like I'm one step behind you.  Zytiga did do nothing for me.  I'm currently going through Jevtana chemo and after that going into an XL-184 trial at the Duke Prostate Clinic mid-year.
                     
                    Fight the good fight.
                     
                    Jim Bober

                    --- On Wed, 1/18/12, David Emerson <davidemerson@...> wrote:

                    From: David Emerson <davidemerson@...>
                    Subject: Re: ProstateCancerUnder50 Malecare Group Annual cost of treating PCa
                    To: prostatecancerunder50@yahoogroups.com
                    Date: Wednesday, January 18, 2012, 10:11 AM

                     
                    ZYtiga did very little except may slow down the rate of PSA progression. The XL-184 only uses
                    bone scans to determine regression/progression. My last scan on 11-22-11 showed significant reduction
                    in the number of areas and overall size of the mets.
                     
                    As I wrote in another post, the main side effects are fatigue, loss of appetite and diarrhea.

                    On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 5:28 AM, James Bober <james_bober@...> wrote:
                     
                    And you could have saved  a little more if your employer offers a health care savings account (HSA) most do, and you have your $3,000 deductible taken out before taxes and spread across your pay periods.  This way you would have paid taxes on the $3,000 -every little bit helps.
                     
                    More importantly, after all these leading treatments...Zytiga, XL-184, what's the prognosis?
                     
                    Jim Bober

                    --- On Tue, 1/17/12, David Emerson <davidemerson@...> wrote:

                    From: David Emerson <davidemerson@...>
                    Subject: Re: ProstateCancerUnder50 Malecare Group Annual cost of treating PCa
                    To: prostatecancerunder50@yahoogroups.com
                    Date: Tuesday, January 17, 2012, 3:48 PM

                     
                    In this case I would argue it's about the insurance, not the money. 
                    I was only out 2% ($3,000) of the Billed Amount or a little more than 4% of 
                    the amount paid by the plan.

                    On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Barry Rosenfeld <BarryRosenfeld@...> wrote:
                     
                    I guess it really is all about the MONEY! It's a good thing you have it!
                    BR


                    On Jan 17, 2012, at 12:07 PM, David Emerson wrote:

                     

                    I posted this last year and it generated quite a bit of disuccion.
                    Here is the annual report from my insurance compant (United HealthCare)
                     
                    Billed Amount:  $144,338.80
                    Paid by Plan:    $  67,646.60
                    Patient Paid:     $  3,000.00
                    This spans Jan 1, 2011 to Dec 21, 2011
                    From Jan to June I saw a local oncologist for Lupron and Zometa and June to December the same Onc administered Firmagon and Xgeva.
                    Late Jan to June I went to Atlanta aprox 10 times as part of the Zytiga open access trial.
                    From August to December I have been traveling to Boston
                    (7 times) to participate in the Cabozantinib (XL-184 trial).
                     
                    The totals above do not include cost of the trial drugs (Zytiga
                    or XL-184).
                                   
                    --
                    David Emerson
                    www.flhw.org
                    Every 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.
                    Every 16.5 minutes a man dies from the disease.





                    --
                    David Emerson
                    www.flhw.org
                    Every 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.
                    Every 16.5 minutes a man dies from the disease.



                    --
                    David Emerson
                    www.flhw.org
                    Every 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.
                    Every 16.5 minutes a man dies from the disease.




                    --
                    David Emerson
                    www.flhw.org
                    Every 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.
                    Every 16.5 minutes a man dies from the disease.
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