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  • martin@mmsi.com
    Spent a good bit of time in map library last weekend. Tried to compute Ayers Rock prominence with 1 = 4 miles scale map that had no contours. Ayers probably
    Message 1 of 3 , Nov 4, 2002
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      Spent a good bit of time in map library last weekend.
      Tried to compute Ayers Rock prominence with 1" = 4 miles scale
      map that had no contours. Ayers probably has about 1,000'
      prominence, with key saddle between it and higher Olga range
      just to west.

      The entire west half of Australia has few peaks with 2,000' prominence.
      The whole country has perhaps less than 50 of these peaks, thus
      making it likely the largest "island" mass that one could tackle
      with the goal of hiking every 2000P summit. Hopefully the maps
      exist that would allow creation of a fairly reliable Australian
      prominence listing.

      Also spent some time working out about 30 CA peaks that fall below
      the top 50 list. Edward Earl has done a lot of work here, so
      after working up each peak independently I would check against
      his listings. Notes on my work are attached. Of particular interest
      is #7, where two tough peaks are hotly contesting for
      a 2,500' prominence.



      Notes on CA peaks with over 2,000' prominence

      1. Mount Baden Powell 2,799P looks like a good hike in the LA area.

      2. HP Tiefort Mountains 2,523P may be on military reservation.

      3. Rainbow Ridge, 2,600P has 2 areas some distance apart.

      4. Bear Mountain, SE of Bakersfield, 2,600P, has 4 areas 6,920+ (40).
      The air map incorrectly gives 6,913' elevation.

      5. Mount Morgan, 2,628P is in the high sierras.

      6. Mount Tom, 1,972P is nearby.

      7. Mount Gabb and Bear Creek Spire make a very interesting tie
      in the high sierras. Winner gets 2,560+p. Bear Creek was 2'
      higher on old 15' maps. Current elevations Mt. Gabb 13,741,
      Bear Creek Spire 13,720+ (40).

      8. Mount Darwin of high sierras has 1,871+(40) P.

      9. Mount Humphreys, 2,563P, high sierras, gets unfairly burried with only
      1798 prominence in computer listing. A 765' downgrade due to steep summit
      and stolen prominence. This peak is only 14 feet shy of being a 14'er,
      perhaps the most overlooked peak in CA ?

      10. Black Mountain is a 5,118 foot volcanic (?) cone near OR.
      It was incorrectly given 5249' elevation in earlier prominence listing.

      11. HP Cottonwood Mountains, Panamint Butte quad, has two areas
      contending for 2,327' prominence.
    • Mark Adrian
      Andy, thanks for the update. I have done many/all of the peaks below. However, I do not want to admit ANYTHING about Tiefort although it is most definitely on
      Message 2 of 3 , Nov 4, 2002
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        Andy, thanks for the update. I have done many/all of the peaks below. However, I do not want to admit ANYTHING about Tiefort although it is most definitely on Fort Irwin, in fact, pretty much in the middle of the reservation there. It could be (wink) a scarey climb :>

        Also, it is the Sierra (singular) not Sierras (plural).
        Most of the peaks you mention below are on the LA Chapter (Sierra
        Club) HPS or SPS list.

        M

        ---------- martin@... writes:

        From: martin@...
        To: prominence@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [prominence] CA and Australia notes
        Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:23:49 -0700 (MST)

        Spent a good bit of time in map library last weekend.
        Tried to compute Ayers Rock prominence with 1" = 4 miles scale
        map that had no contours. Ayers probably has about 1,000'
        prominence, with key saddle between it and higher Olga range
        just to west.

        The entire west half of Australia has few peaks with 2,000' prominence.
        The whole country has perhaps less than 50 of these peaks, thus
        making it likely the largest "island" mass that one could tackle
        with the goal of hiking every 2000P summit. Hopefully the maps
        exist that would allow creation of a fairly reliable Australian
        prominence listing.

        Also spent some time working out about 30 CA peaks that fall below
        the top 50 list. Edward Earl has done a lot of work here, so
        after working up each peak independently I would check against
        his listings. Notes on my work are attached. Of particular interest
        is #7, where two tough peaks are hotly contesting for
        a 2,500' prominence.



        Notes on CA peaks with over 2,000' prominence

        1. Mount Baden Powell 2,799P looks like a good hike in the LA area.

        2. HP Tiefort Mountains 2,523P may be on military reservation.

        3. Rainbow Ridge, 2,600P has 2 areas some distance apart.

        4. Bear Mountain, SE of Bakersfield, 2,600P, has 4 areas 6,920+ (40).
        The air map incorrectly gives 6,913' elevation.

        5. Mount Morgan, 2,628P is in the high sierras.

        6. Mount Tom, 1,972P is nearby.

        7. Mount Gabb and Bear Creek Spire make a very interesting tie
        in the high sierras. Winner gets 2,560+p. Bear Creek was 2'
        higher on old 15' maps. Current elevations Mt. Gabb 13,741,
        Bear Creek Spire 13,720+ (40).

        8. Mount Darwin of high sierras has 1,871+(40) P.

        9. Mount Humphreys, 2,563P, high sierras, gets unfairly burried with only
        1798 prominence in computer listing. A 765' downgrade due to steep summit
        and stolen prominence. This peak is only 14 feet shy of being a 14'er,
        perhaps the most overlooked peak in CA ?

        10. Black Mountain is a 5,118 foot volcanic (?) cone near OR.
        It was incorrectly given 5249' elevation in earlier prominence listing.

        11. HP Cottonwood Mountains, Panamint Butte quad, has two areas
        contending for 2,327' prominence.




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      • Aaron Maizlish
        Andy et al. Last week I worked up a rough draft list for Utah down to P2000 which is attached. The total number of prominence = 2000 peaks on the list is 81
        Message 3 of 3 , Nov 4, 2002
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          Andy et al.

          Last week I worked up a rough draft list for Utah down to P2000 which is
          attached. The total number of prominence = 2000' peaks on the list is 81 plus 3
          in the error range (although two of those are just barely 'squeakers'.

          The list would probably bear some further proofreading (as would my Oregon list)
          although I did identify all saddles and peaks on topozone for mountains numbers
          51-84.
          That only leaves Idaho without a draft list of all P2000s.

          Andy et al I have a cleaned up version of California which I did last year, with
          several dozen saddle elevation corrections. If Andy or anyone is doing research
          in California it would be save a lot of time to compare notes. Ditto Nevada.

          Following is the Utah list as well as the running summary total number of peaks.
          E-mail me for an excel version. Enjoy.

          Aaron Maizlish

          Name Elev. Prom Saddle

          1 Kings Peak 13,528 6,348 7,180 20
          2 Mt Peale 12,721 6,161 6,560 40
          3 Mt Ellen 11,522 5,842 5,680 40
          4 Deseret Peak 11,031 5,811 5,220 20
          5 Mt Nebo 11,928 5,488 6,440 40
          6 Flat Top Mtn 10,620 5,370 5,250 25
          7 Mt Timpanogos 11,750 5,270 6,480 20
          8 Ibapah Peak 12,109 5,269 6,840 40
          9 Delano Peak 12,169 4,689 7,480 40
          10 Abajo Peak 11,360 4,550 6,810 10
          11 Swasey Peak 9,669 4,509 5,160 40
          12 Signal Peak 10,365 4,485 5,880 40
          13 Navajo Mtn 10,346 4,226 6,120 20
          14 Fish Lake Hightop Plateau 11,633 4,153 7,480 40
          15 Monroe Peak (or Signal Peak) 11,227 4,107 7,120 20
          16 Frisco Peak 9,660 4,020 5,640 40
          17 Mt Ogden 9,570 3,810 5,760 40
          18 Brian Head Peak 11,307 3,747 7,560 40
          19 Raft River Mtns 9,920 3,720 6,200 40
          20 Fool Creek Peak 9,712 3,712 6,000 40
          21 San Pitch Mtns HP 9,997 3,677 6,320 40
          22 Indian Peak 9,790 3,650 6,140 20
          23 Twin Peaks 11,489 3,649 7,840 40
          24 West Mtn. Peak 7,680 3,640 4,040 40
          25 George H Hansen Peak 8,523 3,603 4,920 20
          26 Mt Pennell 11,400 3,560 7,840 40
          27 Box Elder Peak 9,372 3,452 5,920 40
          28 Provo Peak 11,068 3,428 7,640 40
          29 Notch Peak 9,654 3,414 6,240 40
          30 Mt Dutton 11,041 3,401 7,640 20
          31 South Tent Mtn HP 11,285 3,365 7,920 40
          32 Mt Hillers 10,737 3,337 7,400 40
          33 Willard Peak 9,764 3,244 6,520 40
          34 Naomi Peak 9,979 3,159 6,820 20
          35 Wah Wah Mtns 9,393 3,084 6,309
          36 Black Crook Peak 9,274 3,074 6,200 40
          37 Graham Peak 7,563 3,043 4,520 5
          38 Mine Camp Peak (or White Pine Peak) 10,222 3,001 7,221
          39 Logan Peak 9,710 2,995 6,715
          40 N of Granite Peak 9,582 2,982 6,600 40
          41 Spanish Fork Peak 10,192 2,952 7,240 40
          42 Mt Ellsworth 8,235 2,915 5,320 40
          43 Bluebell Knoll 11,320 2,900 8,420 20
          44 Loafer Mtn 10,687 2,887 7,800 40
          45 Cedar Mtns 7,712 2,847 4,865 5
          46 Desert Peak 7,005 2,785 4,220 5
          47 Lewis Peak 9,304 2,784 6,520 40
          48 Granite Peak 7,082 2,767 4,315 5
          49 Lake Mtns 7,690 2,710 4,980 5
          50 Bruin Pt 10,184 2,704 7,480 40
          51 Francis BM, nr. Francis Peak 9,706 2,690 7,016 16
          52 Stookey BM, Onaqui Mtns HP 9,020 2,500 6,520 40
          53 2 mi N of Wah Wah Summit 8,980 2,500 6,480 40
          54 Messix Peak 7,372 2,452 4,920 20
          55 Tunnel Spring Mtns 8,440 2,430 6,010
          56 Castle Rock (Stansbury Is.) 6,620 2,400 4,220 20
          57 Needle BM, Mtn Home Range 9,480 2,400 7,080 40
          58 Frary Peak (Antelope Is.) 6,596 2,396 4,200 -
          59 Gunsight Peak 8,244 2,364 5,880 40
          60 King Top 8,350 2,350 6,000 40
          61 Thousand Lake Mtn, Flat Top 11,306 2,346 8,960 40
          62 Strawberry Peak 10,335 2,338 7,997
          63 Tangent Peak 7,047 2,307 4,740 20
          64 Mt Holmes 7,998 2,278 5,720 40
          65 James Peak 9,422 2,262 7,160 40
          66 Mount Elliott 7,142 2,262 4,880 40
          67 Champlin Peak 7,504 2,254 5,250 10
          68 Keg Mtn. 7,305 2,205 5,100 20
          69 Boulter Peak 8,308 2,188 6,120 40
          70 Lady Laird Peak 7,298 2,178 5,120 20
          71 Stevens BM, Valley Mtns. 8,436 2,156 6,280 40
          72 Indian Peaks 8,406 2,148 6,258 18
          73 Black Mtns HP 8,674 2,134 6,540 20
          74 West Mtn 6,904 2,104 4,800 40
          75 Hilgard Mtn 11,533 2,093 9,440 20
          76 Cricket Mtns HP 7,231 2,071 5,160 40
          77 Beaver Dam Mtns HP 6,786 2,065 4,721
          78 Durst Mtn 9,284 2,064 7,220 20
          79 4 mi N of Roan Peaks 9,503 2,031 7,472 12
          80 Orange Cliffs 7,151 2,031 5,120 20
          81 5 mi. E of Twin Peaks 8,684 2,004 6,680 40

          82 Craner Peak 6,625 1,966 4,659 66
          83 San Rafael Knob 7,921 1,961 5,960 40
          84 Grassy Mtns 6,596 1,937 4,659 66



          --

          STATE 10000+ 9000 8000 7000 6000 5000 4000 3000 2000 ERROR TOTAL

          ARIZONA 0 0 0 0 2 3 6 13 48 2 74
          ARKANSAS 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1
          CALIFORNIA 1 1 2 1 2 2 7 30 117 8 171
          COLORADO 0 1 0 0 0 2 6 11 61 2 83
          GEORGIA 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1
          IDAHO 0 0 0 0 0 3 7 19 58 0 87
          MAINE 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 13 0 15
          MASSACHUSETTS 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1
          MONTANA 0 0 0 0 0 4 10 37 91 6 148
          NEVADA 0 0 1 1 1 6 16 40 104 8 177
          NEW HAMPSHIRE 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 10 0 12
          NEW MEXICO 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 13 29 1 47
          NEW YORK 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 10 0 13
          NORTH CAROLINA 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 3 6 0 10
          OREGON 0 0 0 1 1 2 4 14 51 3 76
          SOUTH DAKOTA 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1
          TENNESSEE 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 3 0 4
          TEXAS 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 8 0 12
          UTAH 0 0 0 0 2 6 9 23 41 3 84
          VERMONT 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 10 0 13
          VIRGINIA 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 8 1 9
          WASHINGTON 1 0 2 2 0 2 11 34 92 0 144
          WEST VIRGINIA 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1
          WYOMING 0 0 0 2 1 0 1 6 25 0 35

          TOTAL LOWER 48 2 2 5 7 11 31 85 253 789 34 1219

          (Idaho is only an estimate)



          --- In prominence@y..., martin@m... wrote:
          > Spent a good bit of time in map library last weekend.
          > Tried to compute Ayers Rock prominence with 1" = 4 miles scale
          > map that had no contours. Ayers probably has about 1,000'
          > prominence, with key saddle between it and higher Olga range
          > just to west.
          >
          > The entire west half of Australia has few peaks with 2,000' prominence.
          > The whole country has perhaps less than 50 of these peaks, thus
          > making it likely the largest "island" mass that one could tackle
          > with the goal of hiking every 2000P summit. Hopefully the maps
          > exist that would allow creation of a fairly reliable Australian
          > prominence listing.
          >
          > Also spent some time working out about 30 CA peaks that fall below
          > the top 50 list. Edward Earl has done a lot of work here, so
          > after working up each peak independently I would check against
          > his listings. Notes on my work are attached. Of particular interest
          > is #7, where two tough peaks are hotly contesting for
          > a 2,500' prominence.
          >
          >
          >
          > Notes on CA peaks with over 2,000' prominence
          >
          > 1. Mount Baden Powell 2,799P looks like a good hike in the LA area.
          >
          > 2. HP Tiefort Mountains 2,523P may be on military reservation.
          >
          > 3. Rainbow Ridge, 2,600P has 2 areas some distance apart.
          >
          > 4. Bear Mountain, SE of Bakersfield, 2,600P, has 4 areas 6,920+ (40).
          > The air map incorrectly gives 6,913' elevation.
          >
          > 5. Mount Morgan, 2,628P is in the high sierras.
          >
          > 6. Mount Tom, 1,972P is nearby.
          >
          > 7. Mount Gabb and Bear Creek Spire make a very interesting tie
          > in the high sierras. Winner gets 2,560+p. Bear Creek was 2'
          > higher on old 15' maps. Current elevations Mt. Gabb 13,741,
          > Bear Creek Spire 13,720+ (40).
          >
          > 8. Mount Darwin of high sierras has 1,871+(40) P.
          >
          > 9. Mount Humphreys, 2,563P, high sierras, gets unfairly burried with only
          > 1798 prominence in computer listing. A 765' downgrade due to steep summit
          > and stolen prominence. This peak is only 14 feet shy of being a 14'er,
          > perhaps the most overlooked peak in CA ?
          >
          > 10. Black Mountain is a 5,118 foot volcanic (?) cone near OR.
          > It was incorrectly given 5249' elevation in earlier prominence listing.
          >
          > 11. HP Cottonwood Mountains, Panamint Butte quad, has two areas
          > contending for 2,327' prominence.
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