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  • searchfan72
    You re right, not very savvy at all.
    Message 1 of 18 , Dec 10, 2011
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      You're right, not very savvy at all.

      --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, David Marks <worldsecanalyst@...> wrote:
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      > I believe part of NBC's logic came in two parts.  First,
      > compete against "Cannon."  Second, ride on "The
      > Mystery Movie" coattail.  Not very savvy.
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      > PS There weren't any SF series during the 1972-73
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      > "The Six Million Dollar Man," "A Cold Night's Death,"
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      > --- On Sat, 12/10/11, searchfan72 <bryanpaul10@...> wrote:
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      > From: searchfan72 <bryanpaul10@...>
      > Subject: [probe_control] Re: Update From WAC
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      > I do remember NBC making changes, to make the show more like every other detective show and Search was never the same after that. I have heard that NBC and Leslie Stevens were not getting along and this may shorted the show run. My feeling is NBC was thinking you take a Scifi show and you set in today world and it will not seem so alien to the viewers. As recall there wasn't alot of scifi on the air on the air in 1972 and I think when it went over alot viewers heads, NBC lost faith. NBC should have try to move the show to a new time slot and gave it time to build a bigger fan base, instead they made changes to the format and destroyed SEARCH.
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      > > This is just a wild guess, but I think if NBC hadn't changed the show's format so dramatically and suddenly for the last 8 episodes (complete redesign of PROBE Control, without ANY explanation; making the storylines follow more like the "mainstream" detective shows; possibly the absence of Hugh O'Brian in all but 1 of the last 8 eps, etc.) 'Search' may have been picked up for at least one more season. The elements that were prevalent in the first 15 episodes (and the pilot) are what made the show unique and intriguing to watch.
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      > > So, what NBC did was, for reasons known only to themselves (possibly their conflict with Leslie Stevens over his other projects?) take a format that was working, and "fix" it so it didn't work anymore. (I think someone followed what would eventually become one of Red Green's mantras: "If it isn't broke, you're not trying." - The Red Green Show.)
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      > > To: probe_control <probe_control@yahoogroups.com>
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      > > Subject: [probe_control] Re: Update From WAC
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      > > I notices even when you goole SEARCH created by Leslie Stevens, you get results for The Outer Limits. I've always wonder if Stevens would have come up with a more meaningful title, besides Probe/SEARCH, if the show would have done better. Great show anyway, I would have like it to have lasted a few more years.
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    • searchfan72
      You re right but maybe they should have.
      Message 2 of 18 , Dec 10, 2011
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        You're right but maybe they should have.

        --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, Geoff Willmetts <gfwillmetts@...> wrote:
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        > I suspect the people at NBC didn't think `Search'
        > as remotely SF and just saw it as a detective show with a difference.
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        > Geoff
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        > To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com
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        > Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 10:29:38 +0000
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        > > -----Original Message-----
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        > > From: searchfan72 <bryanpaul10@>
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        > > To: probe_control <probe_control@yahoogroups.com>
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