--- In probe_control@y..., "dghprobe3" <dghprobe3@a...> wrote:
> Thanks for your post, and good points. Who knows where
> fellow was coming from? He insinuates an inside connection to the
> show, but gets more facts wrong than right. It
> reminds me of the quote "a little knowledge is dangerous." Or as
> Barry Morse likes to say, "Hollywood is full of people who know the
> price of everything but the value of nothing."
Re: "coming from," "insinuates an inside connection," "gets more
facts wrong," "little knowledge" etc: this was likely a very apt
description (without dghprobe3's even knowing anything more!)
of "Gharlane of Eddore." See below.
> The thing that tickles me most is his criticism of Stevens' scripts
> as "middle-aged macho cutesiness." It's an apt description of his
> entire article, wouldn't you say?
"Middle-aged macho": oh yes, absolutely! Following, for those
interested, is an overview.
Gharlane of Eddore was a Net presence (some would say, with
justification, "troll") for some years (circa. early 1990's-2001).
He got the Net handle "G of E" from a character of legendary
author "Doc" Smith's (who had apparently given permission for said
use). His chief activity was posting on Usenet science fiction boards
and (usually) "flaming" science fiction (or at least science fiction-
oriented) series/films, misdirecting posts (to alt.dev.null) under
this pseudonym (he said he used the pseudonym to supposedly maintain
privacy but I always had doubts about that...he did at least as much
harassing as he was himself harassed). Allegedly he was an engineer
who flamed these productions for (besides acting, writing faults)
their lack of "technical accuracy."
Among those (many) he disliked: STAR TREK (in most of its various
forms), BATTLESTAR GALACTICA, EARTH 2, SEAQUEST (this was where I
locked horns with him, as follows), SEARCH (as you've seen) etc. etc.
BABYLON 5 he loved, though there was surely no great use of accurate
engineering/scientific technology there. Of course, he got into
(indeed, initiated) many flamewars over the years with the fans of
these shows...SEARCH (which never even claimed to be science fiction,
though that didn't stop him) was probably one of his lesser flames,
if only because (due to its short run) there weren't at that time
many fans on the Net with (SEARCH) opinions to counter his.
This writer actually (first) encountered him on a SEAQUEST board,
he was there criticizing the series ad nauseum and, being a fan of
some aspects of it, I decided to join in combat. It really didn't
amount to much for a "Gharlane war," just a few posts back and forth
and (the series being cancelled about this time) we both got tired of
it. Many "scifi" fans on the Net have had more detailed stories about
His problem IMO was that he was a frustrated writer/producer of
science fiction. Not being able to get anything of his own on the
air/on the screen, he instead contented himself with attempting
to "tear down" the work(s) of many of those who were more successful:
Leslie Stevens, Roddenberry, Glen Larson and so on. Whether there
works were good, mediocre or bad...I don't think it really mattered
to G of E. Supposedly he was himself an author...Well, I've never
heard of anything he actually wrote (and I've read a great deal of
science fiction, certainly he wasn't a literary "name" of any note).
Sort of like Howard Cosell: he had enough knowledge to make what
he said seemingly worth reading but was also so much lacking in
knowledge (i.e. he didn't know, or forgot, of Tony Franciosa's
involvement in SEARCH and got plots/titles wrong) that his criticisms
often blew up in his face. He would often take on the persona of
an "insider" "expert" in the entertainment industry (when he wasn't
pretending to be a "living brain"), even if he really wasn't, and
using the pseudonym made it difficult to disprove (or prove, for that
matter) his claims of "expertise".
Anyway, last I had heard of Gharlane circa. 1997-98 he was in
another flamewar, this time B5 (his side) vs. ST:DS9. A DS9
writer/producer, Robert Hewitt Wolfe, had journeyed to a science
fiction board and G o E (and some other B5 fans) of course started
flaming him (I say "flaming" because their postings IMO went beyond
the realm of constructive criticism, though I wasn't personally
participating...just reading). Their basic complaint was that, in
their view, DS9 wasn't B5...or perhaps rather, again in their view,
that it was a bad copy of it. A group of Trek fans, being legion in
number and subscribing to "two wrongs make a right," then IIRC flamed
G o E in turn by flooding his mailbox with pro-Trek (or at least pro-
DS9), anti-B5 posts. G o E then basically threw up his hands...I do
seem to recall (I was heading off the Net at that point for what
turned out to be a few years) he did develop some grudging respect
for Mr. Wolfe.
After those few years away, I got back on the Net in 2001. Usenet
had pretty much declined (due to spam) by that time IMO but I heard
news elsewhere, eventually, of G o E's death. His name was David
Potter and he was about 54 years of age. Thus endeth the Gharlane of
Eddore saga, you can get even more information if you so desire by
doing a "Gharlane of Eddore" SEARCH (neat word, huh?).