2630Re: [probe_control] Re: Editing
- Apr 1, 2004Hi, Yes, I remember Space Rangers. I own the 6
episodes. The pilot had hope, but something wierd
happens. Literally 6 producers, 6 writers and 6 pilots
A good idea gone bad through mismanagement.
Funny thing, I had fonder memories of it than it
actually deserved. I still like 'em for the period
peice, but they really ARE BAD :)
Has anyone ever notised that Lost in space was more
serious in the first season than the other years?
The black and whites are great!
--- Morningstar <amstar@...> wrote:
> Well, the problem is not really the writing,__________________________________
> although it is part of
> the problem. The real problem is the producers and
> networks. I don't
> mean that as an insult, but a reality.
> For instance, Fox took a gamble on "American Idol."
> It was a copy of a
> show that did well in Great Britain called "Pop
> Idol." Now, it is all
> "American Idol" all the time. "Survivor" started in
> Great Britain, now
> it is the cornerstone of CBS.
> While I like "CSI: Miami" it is an off shoot of
> "CSI." The same goes
> for "Law & Order." Producers and networks go with
> what works. When
> something is successful, the networks say "Get me a
> reality show. Get
> me a crime show. Get me a lawyer show." It has been
> this way forever.
> Back in the late eighties, remember "Space Rangers?"
> That came about
> because "Star Trek: The Next Generation" was making
> money. So, get me
> some science fiction show. However, few people know
> how to write good
> science fiction. Science fiction, as we know, is for
> a higher minded
> person. We are comfortable with technology, so when
> we watch Lockwood
> do something, he has to be right scientifically. It
> might be similar
> when a policeman following the laws, or a lawyer
> doing his business in
> court. But, while most people know some of the law,
> fewer know about
> A girlfriend of mine made a comment that in "Star
> Trek: The Voyage
> Home" that the director and producers took pride in
> the intelligence
> of their audience by showing the Enterprise with the
> NCC-1701-A, and not having it specifically mentioned
> by the actors.
> You mentioned "Babylon 5." I really liked that show.
> It was great. I
> liked the writing, and the way the characters had
> backgrounds and
> foibles. I think that J. Michael Staczinsky is a
> great writer.
> Again, however, people have screwed up. For some
> reason J. Michael
> Straczinsky left "Jeremiah." Why would producers do
> things to drive
> someone as creative as him?
> "Beauty and the Beast" was also a well written show.
> I have spoken to
> George R. R. Martin and found him to be quite
> clever. Again, it is the
> writing that carries a show.
> With this new change in television production, with
> dvd and television
> on demand, perhaps this will be the turning point
> for creativity. ABC
> screwed up with "Monk." They let it slip through
> their fingers, and
> now it is a hit on USA.
> Again, it is the different that is a hit. Producers
> don't like to take
> chances. They would rather have a mediocre show that
> lasts than have a
> glorious failure.
> Just my nickel.
> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "C. Dixon"
> <cmaurelius@y...> wrote:
> > --- Morningstar <amstar@c...> wrote:
> > > I am just about to stop watching broadcast
> > > television all together.
> > > Right now I am watching only about six shows,
> > > half of them are
> > > "Law & Order" and "CSI."
> > >
> > I think I am right up there with you! I ordered
> > for my kids, and had hoped that the extra
> > would carry something interesting, unusual or just
> > plain entertaining.
> > The most fun I have is watching the cat when we
> > Animal Planet on. Since he actually watches it
> > (especially the "Animal Cops" series) HE is more
> > entertaining than the tube is.
> > Maybe part of the problem is that writers today
> > been turned out of "puppy mills" (no pun from the
> > cat). They have been taught to write inside the
> > bubble, and all the shows seem to be similar in a
> > of ways. Watch "Smallville", "90210", "Buffy" and
> > anything that has people on it from Fox, you will
> > what I mean.
> > "Enterprise" was a show I had high hopes for, and
> I am
> > greatly dissapointed with it. It's the same stuff,
> > different day. The plots evolve the same way, the
> > reacts to situations the same way, etc.
> > Here was a vehicle that could have capitalized
> > on Capt. Pike, or Robert T. April, all Kirk
> > predecessors. The books are good, and have unusual
> > ideas, they could have carried the way for a great
> > series, kept the older audience and still had some
> > CHARM for the younger generation.
> > The last series I was rabid about was Babylon 5.
> > was sinister, well written, wasn't gimmick
> > (they used nukes for goodness sakes, in battle)
> > had good plot twists.
> > 24 never caught my eye, I watch CSI (not the Miami
> > tho')and Monk when I get a chance, and the news.
> > My Mom has a theory, that all the good songs, good
> > plots and books have been written. All the
> > themes are done with, and modern novels, shows and
> > music are simply variations on a theme.
> > There, off the soap box.
> > End Run
> > Chris
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