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  • LambuLambu@aol.com
    Dec 23, 2013
      Martin and Jeff,

      Yeah... I think that was the one I was thinking of: Mannix on 'Diagnosis Murder'. (I still have to look up the title of that episode.) I couldn't find any references of Barry reprising his role as Amos Burke on 'DM' - at least not yet.

      Martin, I'm afraid I don't have "Luck of the Draw" anymore; it was on my DVR. If you still get some of the movie channels (Starz, Encore, etc.) keep checking, especially if you have a menu that lets you type in a search. It crops up on those channels (sometimes on Encore Westerns, or even Retroplex as well). I checked Netflix, but they don't have it.

      Your other post was a very interesting read. Leasing sounds? Equipment, I can understand, but leasing sounds for FX is a new one on me. Very interesting!

      That 'Have Gun' episode with Vincent Price ("The Moore's Revenge") is scheduled to air on Encore Westerns, Monday, Jan 6th, 3PM Eastern Time. I'm going to listen for that line!

      And I also noticed that many 'Trek' sound FX are in 'Search'. Going chronologically one would have to say it that way since 'Trek' came several years before 'Search'. And you say "Space Monster" used the Enterprise bridge sound FX just months before 'Trek'? Netflix doesn't have that one either! (Maybe I can find it on Youtube or Hulu.) I wonder if the Trek people thought those sounds were better than the ones they used in the 1st and 2nd pilot episodes, which were drastically different than the bridge sounds in the series. And while we're on sounds, with mention of Irwin Allen (who loved "borrowing" things when he could), he used music from the film "The Day the Earth Stood Still" in several of his SF shows. (I wonder if anyone ever filed suit against him for that?)

      Glen Glenn Sound: I've seen that on many other productions - too many to list here, but take a look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Glenn_Sound
      Many will be surprised at some of the things on that list.

      Besides sound FX and props, aside from the PROBE Control consoles showing up in other series' episodes, wasn't there a mention some time back about a film that used the PROBE Control main view screen in it? I've searched (ah - pun!) the postings, but can't find it, and I could almost swear that a few years ago (maybe more than just a few years) there was a discussion about that view screen appearing in some movie. Does anyone remember that? (Discussion or the movie?)


      -----Original Message-----
      From: martin allen <zippytkat@...>
      To: probe_control <probe_control@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Mon, Dec 23, 2013 1:18 pm
      Subject: Re: [probe_control] Odd Timing:

      Looks like I accidentally duplicated some of your information, Jeff; your note literally came up on my list right as I was clicking on Dino's letter. But while we're at it, I'm pretty sure there was at least another episode with Gene Barry reprising Amos Burke--I'd look it up, but I gotta make some calls. 

      From: "JeffBatten@..." <JeffBatten@...>
      To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 12:34 PM
      Subject: Re: [probe_control] And all that Search...

      There was a 'Diagnosis:Murder" episode with Mike Connors as Joe Mannix, and it even tied in to an old Mannix-episode with flashbacks. Perhaps thats the DM episode you were referring to.
      Merry Christmas,

      -----Original Message-----
      From: LambuLambu <LambuLambu@...>
      To: probe_control <probe_control@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Mon, Dec 23, 2013 10:45 am
      Subject: Re: [probe_control] And all that Search...

      Agh! Now I have to Netflix that! Season 4 aired when I was on a Cutter and I missed many episodes because we were underway so much!

      This one I've got to see. I love it when TV shows do things like that. I loved that 'Diagnosis Murder' episode "Castoffs", when they had Vaughn in it, with Patrick Macnee, Robert Culp, and Phil Morris (Greg Morris' son) all playing spies (or former spies) with Barbara Bain also costarring as Cinnamon Carter - reprising her role from the early days of 'Mission: Impossible', and even making reference to her time working for the "IMF". (There was another 'Diagnosis Murder' episode where another actor from a different, older series reprised his role, but I can't for the life of me remember which one. Guess I'll have to look through the episode list for that one - unless someone knows which episode that is.)

      They also did it again in Season 2 of 'Kung-Fu: The Legend Continues'. The episode title was "Dragonswing II", and it starred Vaughn and Macnee again, and also Ian Ogilvy, all as spies/former spies. While their characters weren't any reprisals of former roles, in one scene, Peter Caine (Qwai Chang's son) questions Macnee's character about Ogilvy's character's integrity. I can't remember the exact wording of the question, but it was something like 'Do you really trust him?' Macnee's character just looks at Peter Caine and replies, "Well he's not exactly a 'saint'." (Reference to Ogilvy's season as Simon Templar in 'Return of the Saint'.)

      Which reminds me: I actually broke down and recorded "The Gambler Returns: Luck of the Draw". I think they made that two-parter just to have fun, and see how many of the old Western TV stars they could squeeze in for cameos. I loved the way they played each character's show's opening theme whenever they appeared: the exception being Hugh O'Brian's 'Wyatt Earp'. They waited until his last scene in the telemovie, and then had what sounded like the original Ken Darby Singers doing their "Oh-oh-oh, Wy-att Earp! Wy-att Earp!" chorus as Earp picked off some bad guys one by one. (That was another applause from the sofa moment.)
      And I remember in a discussion of this one not long ago, and about how many of those Western TV stars they could feasible cameo, and which ones were left out. The late Richard Boone was sadly missing - being mentioned in the Hotel Carleton as the poker game started, with "Lady Li, personal assistant to the late Mr. Paladin" as the dealer. (Lady Li was Kim Li, or 'Hey Girl' from Season 4 of 'Have Gun-Will Travel'; shown as Hey Boy's sister in the late Season 1 episode "Hey Boy's Revenge", where we also learn that Hey Boy's real name is Kim Chan.)
      But in one scene where "Cookie" (played by Paul Brinegar, the original Jim Kelley from 'Wyatt Earp') just finishes an argument with the character called "Sailor", and as Sailor walks away, Cookie does a minute or so monologue - while grilling steaks - that was one groaner after another, as it paid homage to those actors and shows not seen:
      "I would love to give that fool a whiff o' 'Gunsmoke'; run his 'Maverick' butt right off this 'Wagon Train'. 'Course, he's probably 'Wanted Dead or Alive' by some 'Lawman'. I wish Diamond Jim would get rid o' him. He should settle down in some 'Big Valley', build a 'Little House on the Prairie', surrounded by 'High Chaparral'. Oooh, that'd be a real 'Bonanza' for me! I'm gettin' too old for this 'Wild, Wild West'. Oh! Better get those doggies rollin' (referring to his sizzling steaks) before these steaks start turning' into 'Rawhide'!"

      Those were real groaners for me because many of those shows mentioned were filmed - or had several episodes filmed - at Old Tucson Studios in Tucson, AZ, where my mother works part time, in the store called McLintock's Mercantile - which is where Maureen O'Hara runs into near the end of the movie when John Wayne is chasing her through town. (I made a visit there in early November. Great fun! The plane ride was hell on my back, though. But my mum took the weekend off so she could give us a personal tour. So if anyone gets a chance to visit the Studios, take it; you won't be disappointed!)

      No real spoilers there in "Luck of the Draw" where the plot is concerned, or when each actor makes his cameo, so if anyone hasn't seen that telemovie yet, even if you're not real keen on Kenny Rodgers (like me), it's definitely worth a watch for all of the cameos!


      -----Original Message-----
      From: John <actingman6@...>
      To: Probe Control <probe_control@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:59 pm
      Subject: Re: [probe_control] And all that Search...

      Don't forget in the 4th season of the A-Team they modified the format slightly so the guys were no longer on the run, but were instead forced to work for a spook played by Robert Vaughn.  The best episode was of course with guest star David McCallum as the bad guy.  They did the entire thing like an episode of UNCLE, complete with the act breaks ending into, and beginning from, an out of focus picture.

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