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"WarrenS" <warren.wds@...> pompously wrote:

> --ok, so if I (Warren D. Smith) understand aright, Jan Feitsma

....

> did eventually describe his algorithm in a way other than just

> providing his program (i.e. stated the ideas behind it, which

> look actually a lot less complicated than I had feared -- I had

> thought based on no evidence that it instead was going to be a

> backtrack search for the factorizations of the pseudoprimes) then

> David Cleaver & Jeff Gilchrist coded their own re-implement of

> Feitsma's ideas, then ran it, with same output as Feitsma. Thus,

> the computation(s) were correct -- but the question is, were

> Feitsma's ideas correct?

> So in conclusion, I agree Feitsma's ideas are valid.

Thanks, Warren, for your effort and opinion. I forgive your tone.

David - On 3/13/2013 5:47 AM, Phil Carmody wrote:
> No I couldn't. That's so overly verbose and redundant it makes me twitch, I can

Apologies, my Pari/GP script-fu is definitely not on par with DJB's. I just

> barely bring myself to repeat it!

> "lift(Mod(p*s, lift(znorder(Mod(2,s))))) == 1" is just

> "p*s % znorder(Mod(2,s)) == 1"

> Having 3 exit conditions to the loop is overkill too.

wanted to provide a script so that people could plug and chug an r,p pair to see

what psp's would be generated. Also, I didn't know that the % (mod) operator

still worked in Pari. I thought everything had to be done with Mod(). Thanks

for that insight.

> The latter worries me a bit, as it might imply wasted effort. I'm trying to

And apologies here too, I mis-remembered a statement from his Category S page

> picture how these duplicates arise. Given a n, the maximal prime factor p|s is

> uniquely defined, and r as order_2(p) is uniquely defined. Therefore n can only

> appear with pair (r,p)?

and mis-spoke by applying it to the Category E psp's.

On 3/14/2013 11:02 AM, WarrenS wrote:

> 2. Consulting the Cunningham project pages,

> http://homes.cerias.purdue.edu/~ssw/cun/index.html

> every Mersenne-form number 2^r - 1 now is fully factored if

> r<929. Apparently the first two open cases are r=929 and 947

> yielding 214 and 217 digit numbers to factor.

An update here: M929 has been factored, and a group of people have already

started factoring M947. You can find the factor for M929 here:

http://homes.cerias.purdue.edu/~ssw/cun/page125

And, you can see who is factoring which Cunningham number here:

http://homes.cerias.purdue.edu/~ssw/cun/who

And more importantly, you can find all known*1 factors for all important*2

numbers in the online factor database here:

factordb.com

Once there, you can type in 2^929-1, and it will show you all the factors of

that number and that it is Fully Factored (FF). Currently, you can type in

2^947-1 and see that it is a CF, composite number, with factors known, but not

yet fully factored.

*1 = All known factors that have been stored into the factordb.

*2 = All numbers that people are interested in and store in the factordb.

Also, the factordb stores prime numbers too. Below 300 digits it will just

prove the number prime, and above that it will accept Primo certificates and

verify them locally.

-David C.