Re: number of selfridges?

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• ... It is roughly 4 selfridges for small x and y, but blows horrendously up for larger x and y -- see
Message 1 of 46 , Dec 6, 2011
--- In primenumbers@yahoogroups.com, "paulunderwooduk" <paulunderwood@...> wrote:
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> > > > > I have stream-lined the definition:
> > > > > gcd(n,30)==1
> > > > > gcd(x*y,n)==1
> > > > > gcd(x^2-y^2,n)==1
> > > > > kronecker(x^2-4,n)==-1
> > > > > kronecker(y^2-4,n)==-1
> > >
> > > > Mod(Mod(1,n)*(x*l-3),l^2-x*l+1)^(n+1)+2*x^2-9==0
> > > > Mod(Mod(1,n)*(y*l-3),l^2-y*l+1)^(n+1)+2*y^2-9==0
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > Well, I found a counterexample:
> > n=143989
> > x=2479
> > y=6796
> >
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> I am going to stick my neck out again. Let x=a-2 and y=a+2, or x=a-1 and a+1. These give 4-selfridge tests. I might be able to relax the condition gcd(x*y,n)==1,
>

It is roughly 4 selfridges for small x and y, but blows horrendously up for larger x and y -- see http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/primenumbers/message/23861,

I will continue testing the 2-selfridge minimal x test,

Paul
• ... Combining fails with the composite counterexample n=256999 and x=32768, However, I have tested the 1+1+1+2 conjecture up to n
Message 46 of 46 , Apr 14, 2012
--- In primenumbers@yahoogroups.com, "paulunderwooduk" <paulunderwood@...> wrote:
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> --- In primenumbers@yahoogroups.com, "paulunderwooduk" <paulunderwood@> wrote:
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> > Hi,
> >
> > I have added a Fermat test to make a 1+1+1+2 selfridge test:
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> > For N>5, with gcd(6,N)==1, find an integer x:
> > gcd(x^3-x,N)==1
> > kronecker(x^2-4,N)==-1
> >
> > and check:
> > (x+2)^((N-1)/2)==kronecker(x+2,N) (mod N) (Euler)
> > (x-2)^((N-1)/2)==kronecker(x-2,N) (mod N) (Euler)
> > x^(N-1)==1 (mod N) (Fermat)
> > L^(N+1) == 1 (mod N, L^2-x*L+1) (Lucas)
> >
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> Note: I should say gcd(30,N)==1 because gcd(x^3-x,N)==1 and kronecker(x^2-4,n)==-1.
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> Now consider combining the 2 Euler tests with the Lucas test:
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> (L*D)^((n+1)/2)==D (mod N, L^2-x*L+1) (D=x^2-4.)
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> with the restriction kronecker(x+2,N)==-1.
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> These together with the Fermat test makes for a 1+2-selfridge test.
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> Can you find a counterexample?
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> So far the near-refutation from Pinch's carmichael list is:
> N,x,gcd(x^2-1)
> ------------------
> 1909001 884658 1909001
>
> Paul
>

Combining fails with the composite counterexample n=256999 and x=32768, However, I have tested the 1+1+1+2 conjecture up to n<10^7,

Paul -- restoring symmetry
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