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  • Yann Guidon
    ... The pattern that I see is that there is no infinite linear pattern, or linear combination, otherwise these would not be primes anymore because after a
    Message 1 of 5 , Mar 27 12:21 PM
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      hamathib wrote:
      > I know in the past I have been a source of great humour and laughter,
      > however, try as hard as I can I keep seeing this pattern in prime
      > numbers that I will try once more to share with you.
      The pattern that I see is that there is no infinite linear pattern,
      or linear combination, otherwise these would not be primes anymore
      because after a while, it hits a composite number.
      This is why there is no "perfect" prime number generating formula.

      > Now what I see all the time is that:
      > a) Prime numbers are a result of multiplication. That is, prime numbers
      > are those numbers that are excluded when multiplication is applied on
      > integers.
      well that's the basic definition of prime numbers,
      nothing new because it's the definition indeed.

      > b) Squares of Primes are very important in the distribution of prime
      > numbers, and
      > c) There is a perfect order in the distribution of prime numbers. This
      > means that you can tell when and where a prime number occurs on
      > integers.
      So this means that you have a simple formulat that can give me the Xth prime number ?

      > Now how do I explain the above in a manner that I will not be offensive.
      > I will try to explain the above observations by using addition;
      > additions of one (1). Look closely at the additions below:
      > 0 -[0 + 0 = 0]
      > ---[1 + 0 = 1]
      <snip numbers>

      > Do you see the pattern?
      No, this is not offensive, but it is not explicit enough for me.
      What did I miss that should be so obvious ?

      regards,
      yg
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    • hamathib
      I know in the past I have been a source of great humour and laughter, however, try as hard as I can I keep seeing this pattern in prime numbers that I will try
      Message 2 of 5 , Mar 27 12:44 PM
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        I know in the past I have been a source of great humour and laughter,
        however, try as hard as I can I keep seeing this pattern in prime
        numbers that I will try once more to share with you.

        Now what I see all the time is that:
        a) Prime numbers are a result of multiplication. That is, prime numbers
        are those numbers that are excluded when multiplication is applied on
        integers.
        b) Squares of Primes are very important in the distribution of prime
        numbers, and
        c) There is a perfect order in the distribution of prime numbers. This
        means that you can tell when and where a prime number occurs on
        integers.

        Now how do I explain the above in a manner that I will not be offensive.

        I will try to explain the above observations by using addition;
        additions of one (1). Look closely at the additions below:

        0 -[0 + 0 = 0]
        ---[1 + 0 = 1]
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        1 -[1 + 1 = 2]
        ---[2 + 1 = 3]
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        ---[3 + 1 = 4 = 2 ^ 2]
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        2 -[4 + 1 = 5] [5 + 1 = 6]
        ---[6 + 1 = 7] [7 + 1 = 8]
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        ---[8 + 1 = 9 = 3 ^ 2]
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        3 -[-------------] [ 9 + 1 = 10]
        ---[10 + 1 = 11] [11 + 1 = 12]
        ---[12 + 1 = 13] [13 + 1 = 14] [14 + 1 = 15]
        ---[-------------] [15 + 1 = 16] [16 + 1 = 17]
        ---[-------------] [17 + 1 = 18]
        ---[18 + 1 = 19] [19 + 1 = 20] [20 + 1 = 21]
        ---[-------------] [21 + 1 = 22]
        ---[22 + 1 = 23] [23 + 1 = 24]
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        ---[24 + 1 = 25 = 5 ^ 2]
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        4 -[-------------] [25 + 1 = 26] [26 + 1 = 27]
        ---[-------------] [27 + 1 = 28]
        ---[28 + 1 = 29] [29 + 1 = 30]
        ---[30 + 1 = 31] [31 + 1 = 32] [32 + 1 = 33]
        ---[-------------] [33 + 1 = 34] [-----------] [34 + 1 = 35]
        ---[-------------] [35 + 1 = 36]
        ---[36 + 1 = 37] [37 + 1 = 38] [38 + 1 = 39]
        ---[-------------] [39 + 1 = 40]
        ---[40 + 1 = 41] [41 + 1 = 42]
        ---[42 + 1 = 43] [43 + 1 = 44] [44 + 1 = 45]
        ---[-------------] [45 + 1 = 46]
        ---[46 + 1 = 47] [47 + 1 = 48]
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        ---[48 + 1 = 49 = 7 ^ 2]
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        5 -[-------------] [49 + 1 = 50] [50 + 1 = 51]
        :

        Do you see the pattern?
      • Norman Luhn
        I only know that primes are the biggest amount of natural numbers , when you split it in dimensions. Shrug. ... Von: hamathib Betreff:
        Message 3 of 5 , Mar 27 1:51 PM
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          I only know that primes are the biggest amount of natural numbers , when you split it in dimensions. Shrug.


          --- hamathib <hamathib@...> schrieb am Sa, 27.3.2010:

          Von: hamathib <hamathib@...>
          Betreff: [PrimeNumbers] Can you see the partten?
          An: primenumbers@yahoogroups.com
          Datum: Samstag, 27. März, 2010 20:44 Uhr







           









          I know in the past I have been a source of great humour and laughter,

          however, try as hard as I can I keep seeing this pattern in prime

          numbers that I will try once more to share with you.



          Now what I see all the time is that:

          a) Prime numbers are a result of multiplication. That is, prime numbers

          are those numbers that are excluded when multiplication is applied on

          integers.

          b) Squares of Primes are very important in the distribution of prime

          numbers, and

          c) There is a perfect order in the distribution of prime numbers. This

          means that you can tell when and where a prime number occurs on

          integers.



          Now how do I explain the above in a manner that I will not be offensive.



          I will try to explain the above observations by using addition;

          additions of one (1). Look closely at the additions below:



          0 -[0 + 0 = 0]

          ---[1 + 0 = 1]

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~

          1 -[1 + 1 = 2]

          ---[2 + 1 = 3]

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~

          ---[3 + 1 = 4 = 2 ^ 2]

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~

          2 -[4 + 1 = 5] [5 + 1 = 6]

          ---[6 + 1 = 7] [7 + 1 = 8]

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~

          ---[8 + 1 = 9 = 3 ^ 2]

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~

          3 -[---------- ---] [ 9 + 1 = 10]

          ---[10 + 1 = 11] [11 + 1 = 12]

          ---[12 + 1 = 13] [13 + 1 = 14] [14 + 1 = 15]

          ---[-------- -----] [15 + 1 = 16] [16 + 1 = 17]

          ---[-------- -----] [17 + 1 = 18]

          ---[18 + 1 = 19] [19 + 1 = 20] [20 + 1 = 21]

          ---[-------- -----] [21 + 1 = 22]

          ---[22 + 1 = 23] [23 + 1 = 24]

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~

          ---[24 + 1 = 25 = 5 ^ 2]

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~

          4 -[---------- ---] [25 + 1 = 26] [26 + 1 = 27]

          ---[-------- -----] [27 + 1 = 28]

          ---[28 + 1 = 29] [29 + 1 = 30]

          ---[30 + 1 = 31] [31 + 1 = 32] [32 + 1 = 33]

          ---[-------- -----] [33 + 1 = 34] [----------- ] [34 + 1 = 35]

          ---[-------- -----] [35 + 1 = 36]

          ---[36 + 1 = 37] [37 + 1 = 38] [38 + 1 = 39]

          ---[-------- -----] [39 + 1 = 40]

          ---[40 + 1 = 41] [41 + 1 = 42]

          ---[42 + 1 = 43] [43 + 1 = 44] [44 + 1 = 45]

          ---[-------- -----] [45 + 1 = 46]

          ---[46 + 1 = 47] [47 + 1 = 48]

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~

          ---[48 + 1 = 49 = 7 ^ 2]

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~

          5 -[---------- ---] [49 + 1 = 50] [50 + 1 = 51]

          :



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        • maximilian_hasler
          ... ... I don t understand why 17 is in the 3rd column and not in the 1st column, as all other primes. Can you explain this ? Maximilian
          Message 4 of 5 , Mar 27 1:56 PM
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            --- In primenumbers@yahoogroups.com, "hamathib" <hamathib@...> wrote:
            ...
            > ---[-------------] [15 + 1 = 16] [16 + 1 = 17]
            ...

            I don't understand why 17 is in the 3rd column
            and not in the 1st column, as all other primes.

            Can you explain this ?

            Maximilian
          • hamathib
            ... That was my insurance that anyone who said they saw the pattern was not making fun of me. I can see you are looking at the rows and the columns. You can
            Message 5 of 5 , Mar 27 2:42 PM
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              > I don't understand why 17 is in the 3rd column
              > and not in the 1st column, as all other primes.
              >
              > Can you explain this ?
              >
              > Maximilian
              >

              That was my insurance that anyone who said they saw the pattern was not
              making fun of me. I can see you are looking at the rows and the columns.
              You can see how everything fits together, how the numbers just put
              themselves in this perfect order.

              Actually someone might even say I am trying to justify myself by putting
              them so perfectly. However, if I can, it is simply because I have seen a
              pattern that most people have been missing. Please observe the below
              expanded and corrected table:

              0 -[0 + 0 = 0]
              ---[1 + 0 = 1]
              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
              1 -[1 + 1 = 2]
              ---[2 + 1 = 3]
              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
              ---[3 + 1 = 4 = 2 ^ 2]
              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
              2 -[4 + 1 = 5] [5 + 1 = 6]
              ---[6 + 1 = 7] [7 + 1 = 8]
              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
              ---[8 + 1 = 9 = 3 ^ 2]
              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
              3 -[-----------] [ 9 + 1 = 10]
              ---[10 + 1 = 11] [11 + 1 = 12]
              ---[12 + 1 = 13] [13 + 1 = 14] [14 + 1 = 15]
              ---[-----------] [15 + 1 = 16]
              ---[16 + 1 = 17] [17 + 1 = 18]
              ---[18 + 1 = 19] [19 + 1 = 20] [20 + 1 = 21]
              ---[-----------] [21 + 1 = 22]
              ---[22 + 1 = 23] [23 + 1 = 24]
              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
              ---[24 + 1 = 25 = 5 ^ 2]
              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
              4 -[-----------] [25 + 1 = 26] [26 + 1 = 27]
              ---[-----------] [27 + 1 = 28]
              ---[28 + 1 = 29] [29 + 1 = 30]
              ---[30 + 1 = 31] [31 + 1 = 32] [32 + 1 = 33]
              ---[-----------] [33 + 1 = 34] [-----------] [34 + 1 = 35]
              ---[-----------] [35 + 1 = 36]
              ---[36 + 1 = 37] [37 + 1 = 38] [38 + 1 = 39]
              ---[-----------] [39 + 1 = 40]
              ---[40 + 1 = 41] [41 + 1 = 42]
              ---[42 + 1 = 43] [43 + 1 = 44] [44 + 1 = 45]
              ---[-----------] [45 + 1 = 46]
              ---[46 + 1 = 47] [47 + 1 = 48]
              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
              ---[48 + 1 = 49 = 7 ^ 2]
              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
              5 -[-----------] [49 + 1 = 50] [50 + 1 = 51]
              ---[-----------] [51 + 1 = 52]
              ---[52 + 1 = 53] [53 + 1 = 54] [-----------] [54 + 1 = 55]
              ---[-----------] [55 + 1 = 56] [56 + 1 = 57]
              ---[-----------] [57 + 1 = 58]
              ---[58 + 1 = 59] [59 + 1 = 60]
              ---[60 + 1 = 61] [61 + 1 = 62] [62 + 1 = 63]
              ---[-----------] [63 + 1 = 64] [-----------] [64 + 1 = 65]
              ---[-----------] [65 + 1 = 66]
              ---[66 + 1 = 67] [67 + 1 = 68] [68 + 1 = 69]
              ---[-----------] [69 + 1 = 70]
              ---[70 + 1 = 71] [71 + 1 = 72]
              ---[72 + 1 = 73] [73 + 1 = 74] [74 + 1 = 75]
              ---[-----------] [75 + 1 = 76] [-----------] [-----------] [76 + 1 = 77]
              ---[-----------] [77 + 1 = 78]
              ---[78 + 1 = 79] [79 + 1 = 80] [80 + 1 = 81]
              ---[-----------] [81 + 1 = 82]
              ---[82 + 1 = 83] [83 + 1 = 84] [-----------] [84 + 1 = 85]
              ---[-----------] [85 + 1 = 86] [86 + 1 = 87]
              ---[-----------] [87 + 1 = 88]
              ---[88 + 1 = 89] [89 + 1 = 90] [-----------] [-----------] [90 + 1 = 91]
              ---[-----------] [91 + 1 = 92] [92 + 1 = 93]
              ---[-----------] [93 + 1 = 94] [-----------] [94 + 1 = 95]
              ---[-----------] [95 + 1 = 96]
              ---[96 + 1 = 97] [97 + 1 = 98] [98 + 1 = 99]
              ---[-----------] [99 + 1 = 100]
              ---[100 + 1 = 101] [101 + 1 = 102]
              ---[102 + 1 = 103] [103 + 1 = 104] [104 + 1 = 105]
              ---[-------------] [105 + 1 = 106]
              ---[106 + 1 = 107] [107 + 1 = 108]
              ---[108 + 1 = 109] [109 + 1 = 110] [110 + 1 = 111]
              ---[-------------] [111 + 1 = 112]
              ---[112 + 1 = 113] [113 + 1 = 114] [-------------] [114 + 1 = 115]
              ---[-------------] [115 + 1 = 116] [116 + 1 = 117]
              ---[-------------] [117 + 1 = 118] [-------------] [-------------] [118
              + 1 = 119]
              ---[-------------] [119 + 1 = 120]
              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\
              ~~~~~~~~~~
              ---[120 + 1 = 121 = 11 ^ 2]
              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\
              ~~~~~~~~~~
              6 -[-------------] [121 + 1 = 122] [122 + 1 = 123]
              :
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