Re: [PrimeNumbers] Re: state of the art in primality proving
At first, I thought, Why can't we use your software in the US? It made me sad. I thought you were to blame. But now I see. And I am furious about this company threatening you. I wish that you had the resources to fight. I love the free flow of information and I hate those who restrict it. Why can't we all just have a free flow of intellectual information without monetary gain. I'll tell you, I've learn a lot from this group. Its a good thing that there isn't a patent on the info flowing out of this group. And thank goodness you guys didn't charge me for info (LOL). I do hope that we can find a way around these crapy patent laws soon ..........
P.S.: I did read the Marcel post on why we can't use PRIMO in the US, Canada and Japan.
gchil0 <jgchilders@...> wrote:
Actually there's a bit more to it than this. He doesn't wish to
restrict the use of his program but his hand was forced. In his
If the Author is advised that the Software is infringing a patent, the
Author shall forbid distribution and use of the Software in all
countries where the patent is applicable. In this case, the User's
sole remedy shall be to refrain from using the Software in such
countries or to obtain authorization from the patent holder."
Oberthur Card System applied in 1999 for a patent on a method of
point-halving in elliptic curves. Primo implements point-halving, but
using a different algorithm than that described in the patent.
Nevertheless, Oberthur sent Marcel a cease-and-desist letter. Not
having the resources to fight this, Marcel had to comply and added the
above to the license agreement. Hence the current restrictions.
http://swpat.ffii.org/patents/effects/ocshit/index.en.html has a few
more details and
includes Marcel's thoughts on the issue.
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> > Maybe there is a lawyer on the list.
> > What are the penalties if one does (inadvertently) use the
> > US? Who willwho can
> > prosecute?
> This is merely a licensing question. Marcel Martin is free to choose
> use his software or not. And in this case, he chose that citizens ofthe US,
> Canada and Japan are not allowed to use it.countries.
> Just as Phil Carmody chooses not to serve his webpages to certain
> - From your message it appears you are interpreting it as an export
> question. It's not, it's a licensing question.code that
> > This is really sad. Why? what (who) is the hang up? Who owns the
> > is in question?country. It is
> > Is it a national security issue? I thought this was a free
> > mind boggling that someonethis
> > is using a complex variation of a+b and our country is saying no,
> > variation of a+b = 0.allowed to
> > Suppose a savant in the US,Canada,Japan viisits Marcel and is
> > read the source. Nowthink it
> > with the primo code in his/her head would he/she be allowed to
> > through to a solutionUnsubscribe by an email to: email@example.com
> > for their own personal amazement in these countries?
> > This makes me so mad I could eat fried chicken!
> > Cino.
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