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  • THOMAS JOHNSON
    Did anyone see the Charlie Rose show last night with Robert Caro, Joseph Califano, and Doris Kearns Goodwin? I found it a fascinating discussion on one of our
    Message 1 of 3 , Sep 1, 2008
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       Did anyone see the Charlie Rose show last night with Robert Caro, Joseph Califano, and Doris Kearns Goodwin? I found it a fascinating discussion on one of our more complex presidents. Despite the war, I'm an LBJ fan, and they alluded to the fact that he resigned in an effort to end it, feeling that he could not do that and seek re-election.
       
      Tom
       


      Greg Cannon <gregcannon1@...> wrote:
      http://news. yahoo.com/ s/nm/20080901/ pl_nm/usa_ politics_ palin1_dc; _ylt=AueF4M1hl. QK43MjKRD8p7th24 cA

      Palin "bridge to nowhere" line angers many Alaskans

      By Yereth Rosen Mon Sep 1, 1:50 AM ET

      ANCHORAGE, Alaska (Reuters) - It garnered big applause in her first speech as Republican John McCain's vice presidential pick, but Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's assertion that she rejected Congressional funds for the so-called "bridge to nowhere" has upset many Alaskans.

      During her first speech after being named as McCain's surprise pick as a running mate, Palin said she had told Congress "'thanks but no thanks' on that bridge to nowhere."

      In the city Ketchikan, the planned site of the so-called "Bridge to Nowhere," political leaders of both parties said the claim was false and a betrayal of their community, because she had supported the bridge and the earmark for it secured by Alaska's Congressional delegation during her run for governor.

      The bridge, a span from the city to Gravina Island, home to only a few dozen people, secured a $223 million earmark in 2005. The pricey designation raised a furor and critics, including McCain, used the bridge as an example of wasteful federal spending on politicians' pet projects.

      When she was running for governor in 2006, Palin said she was insulted by the term "bridge to nowhere," according to Ketchikan Mayor Bob Weinstein, a Democrat, and Mike Elerding, a Republican who was Palin's campaign coordinator in the southeast Alaska city.

      "People are learning that she pandered to us by saying, I'm for this' ... and then when she found it was politically advantageous for her nationally, abruptly she starts using the very term that she said was insulting," Weinstein said.

      Palin's spokeswoman in Alaska was not immediately available to comment.

      National fury over the bridge caused Congress to remove the earmark designation, but Alaska was still granted an equivalent amount of transportation money to be used at its own discretion.

      Last year, Palin announced she was stopping state work on the controversial project, earning her admirers from earmark critics and budget hawks from around the nation. The move also thrust her into the spotlight as a reform-minded newcomer.

      The state, however, never gave back any of the money that was originally earmarked for the Gravina Island bridge, said Weinstein and Elerding.

      In fact, the Palin administration has spent "tens of millions of dollars" in federal funds to start building a road on Gravina Island that is supposed to link up to the yet-to-be-built bridge, Weinstein said.

      "She said 'thanks but no thanks,' but they kept the money," said Elerding about her applause line.

      Former state House Speaker Gail Phillips, a Republican who represented the Kenai Peninsula city of Homer, is also critical about Palin's reversal on the bridge issue.

      "You don't tell a group of Alaskans you support something and then go to someplace else and say you oppose it," said Phillips, who supported Palin's opponent, Democrat Tony Knowles, in the 2006 gubernatorial race.

      A press release issued by the governor on September 21, 2007 said she decided to cancel state work on the project because of rising cost estimates.

      "It's clear that Congress has little interest in spending any more money on a bridge between Ketchikan and Gravina Island," Palin said in the news release. "Much of the public's attitude toward Alaska bridges is based on inaccurate portrayals of the projects here."

      (Editing by Daisuke Wakabayashi and Sandra Maler)

    • Ram Lau
      I ll check out that show online. By the way, Caro wrote an op-ed just recently: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/28/opinion/28caro.html ... Joseph Califano, and
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        I'll check out that show online. By the way, Caro wrote an op-ed just
        recently:

        http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/28/opinion/28caro.html


        --- In prezveepsenator@yahoogroups.com, THOMAS JOHNSON <AVRCRDNG@...>
        wrote:
        >
        > Did anyone see the Charlie Rose show last night with Robert Caro,
        Joseph Califano, and Doris Kearns Goodwin? I found it a fascinating
        discussion on one of our more complex presidents. Despite the war, I'm
        an LBJ fan, and they alluded to the fact that he resigned in an effort
        to end it, feeling that he could not do that and seek re-election.
        >
        > Tom
        >
        >
        >
        > Greg Cannon <gregcannon1@...> wrote:
        >
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080901/pl_nm/usa_politics_palin1_dc;_ylt=AueF4M1hl.QK43MjKRD8p7th24cA
        >
        > Palin "bridge to nowhere" line angers many Alaskans
        >
        > By Yereth Rosen Mon Sep 1, 1:50 AM ET
        >
        > ANCHORAGE, Alaska (Reuters) - It garnered big applause in her first
        speech as Republican John McCain's vice presidential pick, but Alaska
        Gov. Sarah Palin's assertion that she rejected Congressional funds for
        the so-called "bridge to nowhere" has upset many Alaskans.
        >
        > During her first speech after being named as McCain's surprise pick
        as a running mate, Palin said she had told Congress "'thanks but no
        thanks' on that bridge to nowhere."
        >
        > In the city Ketchikan, the planned site of the so-called "Bridge to
        Nowhere," political leaders of both parties said the claim was false
        and a betrayal of their community, because she had supported the
        bridge and the earmark for it secured by Alaska's Congressional
        delegation during her run for governor.
        >
        > The bridge, a span from the city to Gravina Island, home to only a
        few dozen people, secured a $223 million earmark in 2005. The pricey
        designation raised a furor and critics, including McCain, used the
        bridge as an example of wasteful federal spending on politicians' pet
        projects.
        >
        > When she was running for governor in 2006, Palin said she was
        insulted by the term "bridge to nowhere," according to Ketchikan Mayor
        Bob Weinstein, a Democrat, and Mike Elerding, a Republican who was
        Palin's campaign coordinator in the southeast Alaska city.
        >
        > "People are learning that she pandered to us by saying, I'm for
        this' ... and then when she found it was politically advantageous for
        her nationally, abruptly she starts using the very term that she said
        was insulting," Weinstein said.
        >
        > Palin's spokeswoman in Alaska was not immediately available to comment.
        >
        > National fury over the bridge caused Congress to remove the earmark
        designation, but Alaska was still granted an equivalent amount of
        transportation money to be used at its own discretion.
        >
        > Last year, Palin announced she was stopping state work on the
        controversial project, earning her admirers from earmark critics and
        budget hawks from around the nation. The move also thrust her into the
        spotlight as a reform-minded newcomer.
        >
        > The state, however, never gave back any of the money that was
        originally earmarked for the Gravina Island bridge, said Weinstein and
        Elerding.
        >
        > In fact, the Palin administration has spent "tens of millions of
        dollars" in federal funds to start building a road on Gravina Island
        that is supposed to link up to the yet-to-be-built bridge, Weinstein said.
        >
        > "She said 'thanks but no thanks,' but they kept the money," said
        Elerding about her applause line.
        >
        > Former state House Speaker Gail Phillips, a Republican who
        represented the Kenai Peninsula city of Homer, is also critical about
        Palin's reversal on the bridge issue.
        >
        > "You don't tell a group of Alaskans you support something and then
        go to someplace else and say you oppose it," said Phillips, who
        supported Palin's opponent, Democrat Tony Knowles, in the 2006
        gubernatorial race.
        >
        > A press release issued by the governor on September 21, 2007 said
        she decided to cancel state work on the project because of rising cost
        estimates.
        >
        > "It's clear that Congress has little interest in spending any more
        money on a bridge between Ketchikan and Gravina Island," Palin said in
        the news release. "Much of the public's attitude toward Alaska bridges
        is based on inaccurate portrayals of the projects here."
        >
        > (Editing by Daisuke Wakabayashi and Sandra Maler)
        >
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