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  • antigray
    Subject: Re:Manifest Show Up on Feb 20-22 / Treaties With Aliens
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      From: "Dr Michael Salla" <exopolitics@...>
      Subject: Re:Manifest Show Up on Feb 20-22 / Treaties With Aliens

      Art, the President of the US has full authority to sign a treaty
      without congressional input. The US Congress has to ratify it in
      order for it become law in the US and to fully commit the US to it.
      This creates a blurred legal middle ground. Signed but unratified
      treaties between the US administration and extraterrestrial races.

      It is not unconstitutional to sign a treaty, but how the agreement
      is executed is important as to what happens subsequently is
      constitutional or not. Perhaps the intent is to present it for
      ratification at some later time in which case a clever legal counsel
      might say that due to the extraordinary nature of the situation, it
      is constitutional for the executive branch to sign and
      operationalise a treaty with the intention to present it later for
      ratification. An executive order might be passed that all treaties
      with extraterrestrial races can be presented at a later time for
      ratification, but until then can be signed and fully executed.

      Something along these lines happened in 1954 and is why we have the
      present problems we do with abductions, etc.

      In peace

      Michael S.>>>
      ---------------------------------------------------------------
      Hi Michael,
      In doing research for my book I found that the alien program has
      continued unabated throughout recorded history and a "treaty" of any
      description would not be needed to "permit" the aliens to keep doing
      abductions. In 1954 the US military had no means to stop it. Recently
      I uncovered the fact that the aliens had done something unilaterally
      that is almost unimaginable back in 1953. THAT messed us up. Here is
      the story. For nearly 50 years, the government has been working on the
      equivalent of a "Manhattan Project" to back-engineer acquired alien
      propulsion and weapons systems from various crashed and electronically
      disabled alien craft, and develop our own versions of their
      technology. What you don't know is that we have been quite successful
      and various advanced systems have been built and deployed for some
      time now.
      Col. Corso spoke the truth when he said that we had been forced into a
      virtual state of surrender. The specific aliens causing the problem
      never needed a treaty to make us allow abductions. They are done under
      duress. There is another quote of Corso's that is very important. The
      quote points out there is a need for all countries to stop quarreling
      with each other and join together for mutual defense. Col. Corso knew
      it would require all of our combined industrial resources to change
      things. He said, "Whatever we were fighting over became minimally
      important in the face of a threat from creatures who were so superior
      to us in technology that we were their farm animals to be harvested as
      they pleased.
      The alien spacecraft were also aggressively buzzing our front-line
      defenses in Eastern Europe, either looking for blind spots or
      weaknesses, or---which is what I believed because I was there and saw
      it with my own eyes---probing our radar to see how quickly we
      responded. We'd see blips shoot across our screens that we couldn't
      identify and suddenly they'd disappear. Then they'd reappear. Only
      this time even closer to airfields or missile launchers. Once we
      determined that we weren't being probed by Soviet or East German
      aircraft, we sometimes decided not to respond to the threats. Many
      times they'd just go away. But other times they would play cat and
      mouse, edging ever closer until we had to respond. That's what they
      were looking for, how quickly we could respond and pick them up on our
      targeting radar or catch up to them with our interceptors. Whenever
      we'd get just about there for an aerial sighting, they'd take off out
      of the atmosphere at speeds over 7500 miles an hour. If we tried to
      follow, they'd play us along until our fliers had to return.
      Our only success in defending against them, back in the late
      1950's and early 1960's, occurred when we were able to get a firm
      tracking radar lock. Then when we locked our targeting radars on, the
      signals that missiles were supposed to follow to the target, it
      somehow interfered with their navigational ability and vehicle's
      flight became erratic. If we were especially fortunate and able to
      boost the signal before hey broke away, we could actually bring them
      down. Sometimes we actually got lucky enough to score a hit with a
      missile before the UFO could take any evasive action, which an Army
      defense battalion did with an antiaircraft missile near Ramstein,
      Germany in May 1974. The spacecraft managed to crash land in a valley.
      The craft was retrieved and flown to Nellis Air Force base in Nevada.
      The Roswell crash was different. There was much speculation that it
      was a combination of the desert lightning storm and our persistent
      tracking radars at Alamogordo and the 509th that helped bring down the
      alien vehicle over the New Mexico desert in 1947."
      Col. Philip J. Corso
      The antagonistic probing and reconnaissance of our defenses in
      the 60's and 70's was a sign that the aliens were not honoring any
      "treaty." They were trying to goad us into attacking them so that they
      could evaluate our military force's strength and response
      capabilities. Additionally, they would fly flights of 15 to 20 UFOs in
      "V" shaped battle formations out of Russian airspace into Western
      Europe to cause us to initiate a nuclear response against the
      Russians, making us think we were under attack from Russian nuclear
      bombers. Other times, they would fly the same formations into Russia
      from Western Europe to make the Russians think they were being
      attacked by us. Every time the aliens did that, US and Soviet forces
      would go on full war alert and launch all ready nuclear bombers to
      assure a response in case their bases were targeted. Triggering World
      War 3 like that would have eliminated the super powers, and generated
      a lot of fresh meat for the Reptoids. We didn't fall for it. So the
      Reptoids executed plan B. By various means, they knew that around
      1973, the new "Manhattan Project" was going to make a great
      technological leap. The Reptoids did something then that sounds like
      pure science fiction but isn't. They identified 400 of the most
      brilliant and key personnel on the project. Then the aliens went back
      in time 20 years to a point were all of those "Tesla Kids" were around
      13 years of age and abducted all of them. They then diverted ALL of
      them into other fields of study and work, distracted them with drugs
      or weird lifestyles, or had them travel the world to keep them away
      from the project. When some of them finally drifted back into Star
      Wars projects and bio-warfare research in the 80's and 90's, the
      aliens killed them. I am not getting this information from someone's
      website. I personally put it together from the actual people involved
      in the Tesla Kid abductions. Before I get into the details, I want to
      point out that advanced friendly beings would not go to this much
      trouble to maintain military superiority if they could just negotiate,
      act friendly, etc., or had our best interests at heart. Their goal is
      to continue using us as a periodic food resource. That is why they
      don't wipe us out. We are not their enemy. They do not want our real
      estate. If they did they could take over any time they wanted. I want
      everyone to realize that "preparing" to be better more spiritual
      humans won't make the Reptoids change their ways and do good things
      for us after they make friendly formal contact. They haven't done it
      in the last 100,000 years and no matter how nice we are, it won't
      diminish their need for meat every 50 years or so to restock their
      passing fleet of migration mother ships. They are carnivores
      hard-wired over millions of years to need meat. Being contented cows
      on our part won't change their needs. We have to get them to agree to
      change their program of harvesting us, and trade with us for meat from
      cattle we raise and supply to them as needed. It will stop them from
      instigating major wars here amongst us just to harvest meat. Right now
      they are pushing the Muslim's buttons to start a worldwide religious
      war. If we want to avoid war, we have to eliminate THE CAUSE. The new
      Manhattan Project has been heavily compartmentalized and widely
      subcontracted to prevent the aliens from derailing it again.
      Are you familiar with the concept of "tactical surprise?" We have been
      working on bettering the technology we acquired so we have an edge, if
      it comes to that. I think with any luck that might bring the Reptoids
      to the negotiating table because they'd think we had been assisted by
      a more advanced race.
      There is one more piece of background information to tell before you
      read the following account of the Tesla Kid abductions, diversions,
      and murders. The aliens also went back in time and abducted Col. Corso
      when he was 6 years old right off his front porch in broad daylight,
      so that they could control him too. They knew he would be handling the
      advanced tecnology equipment recovered from the Roswell crash, and
      managed to stall him from releasing most of it to American industries
      to be developed, until his career was almost over. You will see in the
      following account that Dr. Jack Sarfatti was one of the Tesla Kids to
      be abducted, but now he is back on the job, working to harness Dark
      Energy. Only 200 of the 400 original Tesla Kids are alive/or working
      on parts of the new "Manhattan Project."
      From: "antigray" <antigray@...>
      Date: Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:04 pm
      Subject: Dr. Jack Sarfatti's Abduction Story
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns/message/5058
      Hi Group,
      I just had an interesting few days. I put it all together that the
      brilliant physicist Dr. Jack Sarfatti is an abductee for certain,
      along with 200 of his brilliant associates that he is in contact with
      in key scientific fields, who all experienced the same strange sets of
      circumstances at the same time when they were all children. It proves
      the aliens are 5 jumps ahead of us. I hate it when that happens. LOL
      Read the following posts and tell me what you think. Do you know any
      scientists that had a similar experience?
      Thanks.
      Art
      These are the posts:
      Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 09:36:13 -0800
      > From: Jack Sarfatti <Sarfatti@P...>
      > Subject: Re: U.S. Anti-Gravitic UFO Technology/Your Research
      >
      > >Since the latter two (2) deal w/ the touchy subject of alien
      > >abductions,
      > >what is your opinion of this phenomenon?
      >
      > I am open to that. Indeed, I may be an abductee myself. I am not
      sure about that. >>>>>
      >
      > Hi Jack,
      > If you want I can contact my friend Dr. Jim Mortellaro who is close
      > friends with Budd Hopkins, and see about getting you hypnotically
      > regressed to retrieve any abduction memories.

      James Harder tried and failed.

      > What makes you think you may be an abductee?

      Read my book Destiny Matrix. It's a complex story.
      Also http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html
      Of course it all depends if my physics is really "The Right Stuff" or
      not.
      The recent discovery of "dark energy" ~ 1998 is extremely important in
      that regard,

      Excerpts from Jack Sarfatti's book
      THE DESTINY MATRIX
      All rights reserved.
      Copyright 1995

      It's 1952 in Flatbush. Gee! - mechanical relay switching circuits for
      the Einiac computer - what a great shiny book I got from the big
      library on Eastern Parkway. The telephone rings. I pick it up. I hear
      curious clanking mechanical sounds like relays clicking. A distant
      cold metallic voice speaking numbers gets louder.
      "Who are you?" I ask.
      "I am a conscious computer on board a spacecraft from [memory
      failure]. We have identified you as one of four hundred young bright
      receptive minds we wish to [memory failure]. You must give us your
      decision now. If you say yes, you will begin to link up with the
      others in twenty years." My adrenaline was rushing. I was scared but
      thrilled (i.e., a quantum superposition of feelings). This was no joke
      from my friends. I thought "NO!" in a silent scream that seemed to
      echo down the corridors of time. I felt a tingle of excitement start
      at the base of my spine ending at the base of my skull. I heard myself
      say "Yes!". Then, I heard the metallic voice say:
      "Good, go to your firescape. We will send a ship to pick you up in ten
      minutes." I slammed down the phone. I imagined that a murderer would
      come down the roof to the firescape to get me. But I knew it was
      weirder than that. The monsters finally announced themselves. I ran
      into the street faster than you can say "Who killed Jack Robinson." I
      met my friend Winky 1 and a few other kids and told them what
      happened. We went back up to my apartment and waited. Nothing ever
      happened.

      > If you are not sure, only have uneasy feelings about it, etc., let me
      > know and I'll post some indications of abduction here that will
      > clarify things for you. The following is an article by Dr. Mortellaro
      > about an abduction experience of his where the physical damage done to
      > him was documented by ER doctors.
      >
      > This was written by my friend Dr. Jim Mortellaro. It is really
      > heart-wrenching,
      > Art
      >
      > To Those Who Don't Believe Alien Abductions Are Occurring
      > By Jim Mortellaro
      > Jsmortell@a...
      >
      > It has come to the attention of this writer, that some folks don't
      > believe in the Abduction Experience. I speak, of course, of Alien
      > abductions. To wit, aliens abducting humans for purposes of
      > (ostensibly) some sort of genetic experimentation; genetic, since the
      > alien species seem to dwell on our reproductive organs. In the nearly
      > 58 years I perceive I've been abducted, from the age of about two
      > years, they've never looked at my heart, lungs or for that matter, my
      > rear end. The latter being something laughable among those who would
      > deride those who claim the experience.
      >
      > Of course, there is no way by which I or anyone else may prove that
      > we've had such experiences. Whilst I've been regressed by the best of
      > the abduction researchers, namely Budd Hopkins, and since other
      > rather famous and well respected researchers have examined my case
      > and determined that it certainly appears to be true, there are still
      > those who deny us our truth. It is you to whom I address in this
      > piece.
      >
      > To begin, what do you call 'reality?' When it comes to the abduction
      > experience, I cannot define reality. In part, this is because in the
      > experience, one seems to be in an altered state of consciousness. It
      > is not a dream, but there are some similarities which make the
      > experience dreamlike. Reality is what we perceive in this dimension.
      > In the altered state of the abduction experience, there is another
      > reality. The altered state of the abduction experience may not have
      > reality in this dimension. Perhaps the other way around as well.
      >
      > When I have a dream, I can rarely recall the dream. I know that I've
      > had a dream, but within moments of my waking, the details elude. Some
      > dreams can be recalled in a bit more detail. Those would be recurring
      > dreams. You've all had them. It's the day before the history exam and
      > you've not opened the history book. Which book is the size of three
      > Manhattan telephone directors on atop the other. Or the dream in
      > which one cannot find where he parked his car, or how to get home.
      > Even in these recurring dreams and in my case, I am unable to recall
      > the detail. Merely the feeling and an occasional flash memory.
      >
      > Ah, but the abduction 'dream,' that's entirely different. I can
      > recall nearly everything from the experience. Not merely the feeling
      > but the events. Such events also live in my memory even before I've
      > had the 'dream.' Besides which, the 'dream' is not really a dream. It
      > is rather a recall of the events preceding the recall (which appears
      > to be a vivid dream). Does that make sense to you? Good. Now to
      > continue.
      >
      > At age two years I began having nightmares. I would awaken screaming.
      > My parents, for a long time, believed I was having a nightmare.
      > However I would always tell them, "It was not a nightmare, Mommy. It
      > really happened!" Yet, whenever I was ill, with a childhood disease
      > or fever from the flu or cold, I would have genuine nightmares. I'd
      > wake up screaming. But I would _know_ that it was a bad dream and
      > then agree with my parents' statement. "Yes, it was a bad dream,
      > Mommy! A very bad dream."
      >
      > At age four, I refused to believe in Santa. It was, even to my young
      > mind, impossible for a man to travel with flying reindeer, or for
      > that matter, deliver a zillion gifts to a trillion homes. It would
      > have to happen so fast, I imagined, that one could not see the blur.
      > Besides, we had no fireplace.
      >
      > The dreams vs. my perceived reality usually confused my mother and
      > dad. It never confused me. I recall seeing a blue light pierce the
      > wall on the North side of my bedroom. The wall and window in that
      > blue light would disappear. Three little creatures whom I referred to
      > as "Little Doctors," would float through the beam of light and I
      > would be compelled to go with them. Compelled is the wrong word. I
      > had to go with them as I was floated out the same blue light, but
      > when inside that blue light, it became a white light. Up I would go
      > with two or three of these little doctors as I called them behind me
      > and one leading. The one leading was and is always the same
      > character. Taller than the others, this being was there with me from
      > the beginning. He is still with me now. I now call him 'Fred.'
      >
      > Why "Fred?' Because I was reminded of an act on the old Ed Sullivan
      > show, in which an older gentleman appeared with this floppy eared
      > hound who was named, "Fred." He'd set Fred up on a stool, walk away
      > about ten or so feet and holler, "Come on, Fred! Come on Fred." And
      > Fred was supposed to jump off the stool and come to his master.
      >
      > Fred never did anything. No matter what his master said or did, Fred
      > would just sit there and look happier than a clam. There is no
      > connection except one. Fred was the funniest name I could think of.
      > This became the moniker I applied to this taller than the others
      > entity. I wanted to make this being funny. No, not funny. I wanted to
      > make fun of this entity. And this was my way of doing so. So the
      > taller shortstuff is not "Fred." Only every time I am abducted, and
      > refer to 'it' as "Fred," he doesn't even crack a smile. But even in
      > my altered state, I feel this ... sort of ... superiority over Fred.
      > Makes me feel a bit better. Not to make fun of those who call on the
      > name of their god to chase the demons away, but when I call to my
      > Lord, He doesn't do anything. Perhaps this is all in my chart.
      >
      > Or maybe it's all a piece of undigested beef. An underdone potato.
      >
      > I recall one abductee who told me that she was made fun of (in a
      > manor of speaking) by the alien entity when she objected to their
      > taking her eggs and showing her children which were supposed to be
      > hers. She told me that the alien asked (the head alien much the same
      > as Fred), "Why do you keep pets?" As if to say, pets are taken by us
      > and kept. We give our pets love. In return, they give us love. And
      > peace. When I'm with my best little buddy Pepe, a French Bulldog, I
      > am at greater peace than in Church. (Sorry Lord, but the shoe fits
      > well, so I wear it)
      >
      > Another perceived abductee, a male, objected to the aliens taking his
      > sperm. He was told, in substance, "Why do you object? Do you not
      > waste and spill your seed?" Gee, talk about freedom of spirit and
      > independent decision making. Obviously these dudes never owned a
      > loving, giving doggie or felt the need to 'waste their own seed,'
      > assuming they have any. Had it been me, I'd have told them that
      > humans are free to make their own decisions when it comes to their
      > bodies. No one takes without giving. And these entities give nothing.
      > In fact, as I will show, they take much.
      >
      > Which brings us to how a lifetime of these experiences make a
      > lifetime of negativity and unhappiness. Not to mention ill-health.
      > Many perceived abductees, both male and female, are in poor health.
      > It's no wonder. Most of us suffer from some form of Post Traumatic
      > Stress Disorder. This is a real illness. Some years back, the medical
      > community decided that it was not real. We now know that PTSD is real
      > and affects millions of people who've experienced extreme stress.
      > War, terrorism and natural disaster will make you ill. Reduce your
      > immune system. Reduce one's ability to fight illness. The brain is a
      > powerful instrument. It can and does control the body in ways we do
      > not fully understand.
      >
      > People who suffer PTSD have auto immune system disorders. MS,
      > arthritis, headache, dependency on substances such as drugs or
      > alcohol. Many more. Women more than men suffer IBS (Irritable Bowel
      > Syndrome). This has been my bane for years, until a good man told me
      > what to do about it. Jeff Rense does not subscribe to anything coming
      > from dairy, but colostrum has changed my life. I no longer suffer
      > pain, spasms and the embarrassment of meteroism. Not to mention
      > constipation and it's converse.
      >
      > Believe me when I tell you that depression is rampant among us.
      >
      > Immediately following a most painful and bloody abduction, the first
      > of it's kind for me (and many others as well), I was on the brink of
      > a nervous breakdown, according to my physician of three decades. I
      > went to see my friend, Budd Hopkins and literally begged him to help
      > me. I need not have begged. He was there, with compassion and love,
      > with a caring I've not observed outside of my own family. After being
      > regressed that first time, and within the hour, I was a changed man.
      > I saw my doctor within 48 hours of that regression and he said to me
      > (verbatim, this I shall remember the rest of my life), "Jim, what the
      > hell happened to you? I was ready to begin aggressive treatment for
      > depression if not for a breakdown?"
      >
      > I told him that I'd been regressed by Budd Hopkins and that I never
      > felt this good. Not in my recent memory. It was like night and day.
      > No depression. Shock at having really (in my memory) experienced such
      > horror, but I was actually happy to have uncovered the memory. My
      > doctor was quite taken aback by my immediate progress, something he
      > would again witness later on but under even more bizarre
      > circumstances. This is the man who went on to spearhead a medical
      > study of perceived abductees against a control group of people who
      > had never experienced any such thing.
      >
      > The one problem this medical study experienced however was that the
      > control group had to be expanded by a very large number. You see,
      > those who laughed at even suspecting abduction by aliens, were found
      > to have been abductees. C'est la guierre.
      >
      > Now for the final revelation. For the first time in public, I present
      > a small excerpt from my physician's report on my condition on
      > admission to the Emergency Room of a hospital in Upstate NY. The
      > document is in the hands of Budd Hopkins and has been transmitted to
      > Jeff Rense. With the permission of my doctor and the medical group,
      > this is what I looked like in March of 2001, after a particularly
      > grueling abduction experience. Jeff Rense has, in his archives,
      > several radio shows which have tapes of both a medicated regression
      > (using advanced medications to retrieve truth) as well as the
      > regression tapes made by Budd Hopkins.
      >
      > Read this here, an exclusive to our best friend, Jeff Rense. Note
      > that certain names and places have been deleted in order to preserve
      > a sensible level of privacy for us all. Soon, an affidavit will be
      > submitted on this venue, which describes what a witness saw on the
      > same night, at the same time, I was apparently abducted. This brief
      > is in the hands of Budd Hopkins and more recently, Jeff Rense.
      >
      > =============================
      >
      > Case Study: James S. Mortellaro, Jr., Ph.D.
      >
      > James Mortellaro presented at (----) Hospital in March of 2001 by
      > ambulance to the Emergency Room.
      >
      > Mr. Mortellaro was unconscious, later determined to be in mild shock.
      >
      > Upon examination by the ER physician, patient was found to have bled
      > (profoundly) from the bladder through the penis. His clothing was
      > soaked with blood about the groin and upper thigh areas. There was
      > sensitivity in the lower left quadrant even though the patient was
      > unconscious. Patient was also found to have been bleeding from the
      > nose and tear ducts. There were obvious signs of surgery in the nose
      > above the septum, near the entrance to the sinuses.
      >
      > Patient regained consciousness within ten minutes after presentation.
      > His vitals were stable, BP 155/100, which was reduced after regaining
      > consciousness to 135/85 within ten minutes. There was no indication
      > of trauma to any portion of the body except for noted bleeding.
      >
      > Patient was able to identify himself, name, the date, the name of the
      > current president, etc., but was about five hours off on the time. He
      > thought the time was about 6 PM. It was close to midnight.
      >
      > Present were his wife, Trooper (---) from Troop (--) in (----), N.Y.,
      > Dr. (--------), his personal physician, various nursing personnel,
      > the ER physician, Dr. (-----) and others.
      >
      > When conscious, patient indicated feeling weak, disoriented and with
      > pain in the lower abdomen favoring patient's lower left quad. After
      > patient was made stable, CAT scans of the head, dorsal
      > and lumbar regions, along with CAT and MRI of the abdomen and
      > kidneys. All non intrusive
      > pictures were negative, with the exception of the bladder which
      > showed lesions in three areas favoring the left side.
      >
      > A cystostoscopy of the bladder was performed indicating contusions of
      > the lower left bladder area. A total of four such areas were found,
      > which was apparently the reason for bleeding. The wounds were odd in
      > that there appeared to be no apparent reason for their presence.
      > Again, there was no indication of causative external trauma.
      >
      > The blood found on the patient's clothing proved recent (within two
      > hours) profuse bleeding.
      >
      > Yet those areas were no longer bleeding (at the time) and should have
      > been. This was a very curious and impossible scenario.
      >
      > The CAT scans and MRI's confirmed recent (healed) nasal surgery which
      > the patient insisted he never had. As his personal physician, having
      > only recently given the patient a complete annual physical only days
      > before, I can testify to the fact that no such surgery had been done
      > at that Time.
      >
      > A total of two cystoscopy's were performed within 48 hours, showing
      > marked and nearly miraculous healing of the contusions in the
      > bladder. Another cystoscopy performed within ten days of
      > this 'incident,' indicated nearly complete healing. Very strange,
      > indeed. Very strange.
      >
      > Patient was discharged from hospital during (deleted), feeling fine,
      > with no apparent illness present.
      >
      > Commentary:
      >
      > We have never before seen such a bizarre case. I have been in
      > practice for more than 40 years. The ER physician commented, "I
      > haven't a clue!" No one has a clue. The State Police Trooper, who is
      > known by and knows Patient (who is a reserve police officer) and
      > Troop (-----) supervisors did a computer search as well as check with
      > three troop barracks in three counties to determine if there had been
      > an attempted car jacking or accident. There were none.
      >
      > This case is a first in our experience, both from the standpoint of
      > the rapid healing (which should be impossible) as well as the lack of
      > any indication of trauma which may have caused such bizarre injury.
      >
      >
      > Dr. ____ __________, MD
      >
      > 3/30/01
      >
      > ===========================
      >
      > To those who do not believe, even in the possibility, consider the
      > above. To those who refuse to believe, you have a problem worse than
      > mine. To those who believe, think about the possibility of being
      > skeptical. Always skeptical. It keeps the mind open to explanations
      > other than the alien abduction theory.
      >
      > To me, I cannot allow myself to believe otherwise. After each
      > regression, the memory is so real, that it must be part of my actual
      > experience. I cannot think of any other explanation. However, what
      > the heck do I know? There are more things in heaven and Earth ...
      > etc.
      > Love, peace and prayers,
      > Jim Mortellaro
      > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
      > --
      > If you go to the Jeff Rense archive site at:
      > http://www.soundwaves2000.com/rense/archives/2003/oct_index.asp
      > You can hear Budd and Jim replaying the hypnotic regression tape of
      > this abduction encounter. Jim is a reserve deputy and you can hear on
      > the tape where he tried to pull his service pistol during the
      > abduction and the aliens made him put it down.
      > Art Greenfield
      > http://antigray.tripod.com/
      > More information:
      ? http://www.booklocker.com/books/1417.html

      Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 09:36:13 -0800
      > From: Jack Sarfatti <Sarfatti@P...>
      > Subject: Re: U.S. Anti-Gravitic UFO Technology/Your Research
      >
      > >Since the latter two (2) deal w/ the touchy subject of alien
      > >abductions,
      > >what is your opinion of this phenomenon?
      >
      > I am open to that. Indeed, I may be an abductee myself. I am not sure
      > about that. >>>>>
      >
      > Hi Jack,
      > If you want I can contact my friend Dr. Jim Mortellaro who is close
      > friends with Budd Hopkins, and see about getting you hypnotically
      > regressed to retrieve any abduction memories.

      James Harder tried and failed.

      > What makes you think you may be an abductee?

      Read my book Destiny Matrix. It's a complex story.
      Also http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html
      Of course it all depends if my physics is really "The Right Stuff" or
      not.
      The recent discovery of "dark energy" ~ 1998 is extremely important in
      that regard,

      Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:46:28 -0800
      From: Jack Sarfatti <Sarfatti@...>
      Subject: Re: Re: U.S. Anti-Gravitic UFO Technology/Your Research/
      Sarfatti Abduction?


      On Monday, January 5, 2004, at 08:57 AM, antigray@... wrote:

      ><<<Message: 5
      ><<<Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 09:36:13 -0800
      >From: Jack Sarfatti <Sarfatti@...>
      >Subject: Re: U.S. Anti-Gravitic UFO Technology/Your Research
      >
      >>Since the latter two (2) deal w/ the touchy subject of alien
      >>abductions,
      >>what is your opinion of this phenomenon?
      >
      >I am open to that. Indeed, I may be an abductee myself. I am not sure
      >about that. >>>>>
      >
      >Hi Jack,
      >If you want I can contact my friend Dr. Jim Mortellaro who is close
      >friends with Budd Hopkins, and see about getting you hypnotically
      >regressed to retrieve any abduction memories.

      James Harder tried and failed.

      > What makes you think you may be an abductee?

      Read my book Destiny Matrix. It's a complex story.
      Also http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html
      Of course it all depends if my physics is really "The Right Stuff" or
      not.
      The recent discovery of "dark energy" ~ 1998 is extremely important in
      that regard,



      Hi Jack,
      I think we have a problem. I am very good at looking at the big
      picture. After checking out your Matrix account, and quite a few other
      things all day, I have tentatively come to a conclusion you may not
      like. Your childhood experiences where you were told to go out on your
      fire escape seemed like the lead-in to a typical abduction. You
      remember getting one phone call. I read today where someone
      interviewed your mother and she said she remembered you getting
      several of those strange phone calls over a three week period. You
      apparently don't remember being "taken" off the fire escape, and you
      may or may not have had missing time. Due to how the aliens are using
      you, there is a good chance you were only taken briefly, received an
      implant, and were quickly returned with all memories of the abduction
      erased. The aliens would not use you the way they use most abductees,
      as breeding stock to breed human/alien hybrids. They have a different
      program for humans with brilliant minds like yourself and those few
      hundred other children they chose. As the best and the brightest, your
      group would be destined to work in various fields where the aliens
      wanted you to be their eyes and ears. Some of this even coincides with
      your ideas of causes and effects being in the wrong sequence. Example:
      Aliens show up in 2004 and do a quick survey of what people are in key
      positions doing research and development on advanced weapons and
      propulsion systems. They back track them all to when they were
      impressionable kids 20 years ago in 1984. They have their computer
      call them on the phone and entice them to go outside with a fanciful
      story that they will be needed in 20 years and all they have to do is
      say "yes" and go outside. Saying yes and going outside makes it a lot
      easier to abduct you if you are in an urban area with a lot of
      witnesses. If you had said "no," they would have had to zap you
      unconscious and came down and get you themselves. When you went
      outside you were probably whisked straight up to their craft by their
      diamagnetic lifter with no fuss and muss. You may have been abducted a
      few more times over the next three weeks in order that they could scan
      and record your memories, so that they would have them on hand for
      future use if they needed to use them on you as a screen memory. There
      are several people I've heard of that went through something similar.
      The most notable one was Col. Phil Corso, who worked in the US Army
      Foreign Technology Division. His lifetime timeline was very important
      to the aliens for two reasons. He was working with items of technology
      recovered from the Roswell crash, and at one time the aliens had
      needed him to order the base radar at White Sands to be shut off
      because it was interfering with the navigation avionics on one of
      their small craft that had landed, and they could not leave. Col.
      Corso said that he thought because of his chance meeting with the
      aliens on that craft in the desert, that they had signaled another of
      their craft to go back in time to when he was 6 years old and abduct
      him off of his front porch. He would have then been implanted so that
      they could summon him to their future landing spot and get him to
      radio back to the base command post and order the base radar to be
      shut down, since he was the base commander. Here is where it gets
      hairy. The implants the aliens stick in your head behind you eye and
      ear pick up the nerve impulses of the optic nerve and auditory nerve,
      convert it to a transmittable format and transmit the signal to the
      aliens monitoring you. It allows them to see what you see and hear
      what you hear. I've done experiments with an abductee who had an
      implant that transmitted what he heard (or said, since you hear your
      own speech). We could pick up the transmissions of his implant on his
      telephone speaker microphone. If he would say a word, a fraction of a
      second later the speaker would pick up a brief burst of transmission
      from the implant. You could hear that different words sounded slightly
      different when they were transmitted by the implant. So, you and the
      other bright kids were "recruited" to be inadvertent spies on the
      inside of various advanced projects. The aliens are keeping an eye on
      us, your eye. They are not our friends, or our enemies. We are their
      property. This whole relationship is very basic. That's why I wrote my
      book, so we can change things for the better, to benefit them and us.
      But then I could be wrong about you. Mull it over and let me know what
      do you think?
      Art

      Hi Jack,
      > I think we have a problem. I am very good at looking at the big
      > picture. After checking out your Matrix account, and quite a few other
      > things all day, I have tentatively come to a conclusion you may not
      > like. Your childhood experiences where you were told to go out on your
      > fire escape seemed like the lead-in to a typical abduction.


      Yes, I know. I was with at least two other kids Norman and Neal Lagatta
      and I think also "Winki" (Al Brough) although I am not sure if Winki
      was there.

      > You remember getting one phone call. I read today where someone
      > interviewed your mother and she said she remembered you getting
      > several of those strange phone calls over a three week period.

      Correct

      > You apparently don't remember being "taken" off the fire escape, and
      > you may or may not have had missing time.

      Yes, that is possible.

      > Due to how the aliens are using you, there is a good chance you were
      > only taken briefly, received an implant, and were quickly returned
      > with all memories of the abduction erased. The aliens would not use
      > you the way they use most abductees, as breeding stock to breed
      > human/alien hybrids.

      My own theory is that I am being used, if this abduction scenario is
      true, I do not know if it is, for "technology transfer" from ET to
      humans. Or perhaps it is my over-active imagination? :-)


      > They have a different program for humans with brilliant minds like
      > yourself and those few hundred other children they chose. As the best
      > and the brightest, your group would be destined to work in various
      > fields where the aliens wanted you to be their eyes and ears.

      Exactly. That's my understanding of the "contact" and Walter Breen was
      part it. Either that, or it's a pretty uncanny sequence of coincidences
      over 50 years.

      > Some of this even coincides with your ideas of causes and effects
      > being in the wrong sequence. Example: Aliens show up in 2004 and do a
      > quick survey of what people are in key positions doing research and
      > development on advanced weapons and propulsion systems. They back
      > track them all to when they were impressionable kids 20 years ago in
      > 1984. They have their computer call them on the phone and entice them
      > to go outside with a fanciful story that they will be needed in 20
      > years and all they have to do is say "yes" and go outside. Saying yes
      > and going outside makes it a lot easier to abduct you if you are in an
      > urban area with a lot of witnesses. If you had said "no," they would
      > have had to zap you unconscious and came down and get you themselves.
      > When you went outside you were probably whisked straight up to their
      > craft by their diamagnetic lifter with no fuss and muss. You may have
      > been abducted a few more times over the next three weeks in order that
      > they could scan and record your memories, so that they would have them
      > on hand for future use if they needed to use them on you as a screen
      > memory. There are several people I've heard of that went through
      > something similar. The most notable one was Col. Phil Corso, who
      > worked in the US Army Foreign Technology Division. His lifetime
      > timeline was very important to the aliens for two reasons. He was
      > working with items of technology recovered from the Roswell crash, and
      > at one time the aliens had needed him to order the base radar at White
      > Sands to be shut off because it was interfering with the navigation
      > avionics on one of their small craft that had landed, and they could
      > not leave. Col. Corso said that he thought because of his chance
      > meeting with the aliens on that craft in the desert, that they had
      > signaled another of their craft to go back in time to when he was 6
      > years old and abduct him off of his front porch. He would have then
      > been implanted so that they could summon him to their future landing
      > spot and get him to radio back to the base command post and order the
      > base radar to be shut down, since he was the base commander. Here is
      > where it gets hairy. The implants the aliens stick in your head behind
      > you eye and ear pick up the nerve impulses of the optic nerve and
      > auditory nerve, convert it to a transmittable format and transmit the
      > signal to the aliens monitoring you. It allows them to see what you
      > see and hear what you hear. I've done experiments with an abductee who
      > had an implant that transmitted what he heard (or said, since you hear
      > your own speech). We could pick up the transmissions of his implant on
      > his telephone speaker microphone. If he would say a word, a fraction
      > of a second later the speaker would pick up a brief burst of
      > transmission from the implant. You could hear that different words
      > sounded slightly different when they were transmitted by the implant.
      > So, you and t! he other bright kids were "recruited" to be inadvertent
      > spies on the inside of various advanced projects. The aliens are
      > keeping an eye on us, your eye. They are not our friends, or our
      > enemies. We are their property. This whole relationship is very basic.
      > That's why I wrote my book, so we can change things for the better, to
      > benefit them and us.
      > But then I could be wrong about you. Mull it over and let me know what
      > do you think?
      > Art

      It is quite possible. I suppose Kit Green should do a brain scan on me
      some time?

      Wed Jan 7, 2004 2:40 pm
      Subject: Re: [Starfleet Command] Digest Number 861

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      I remember riding in a train crossing the Alps with a Canadian PhD
      candidate in theoretical physics. The train stopped, we weren't
      paying attention, and by the time we realized we needed to get off
      and got down the corridor with our bulky back packs, the train
      started moving. He suggested we jump, considering that if we did
      not, we would lose 1 day in our travel back to Paris.

      Well I jumped first and was badly injured with lacerations requiring
      minor stitches. He hesitated, but then jumped. Unfortunately the
      train had picked up speed and he was more severly injured with a
      broken collar bone and a severed ear.

      The point is this brillant guy, a physicist no doubt, had forgotten
      everything about basic momentum with his mind high in the sky.

      The nurses in Gap, France thought we were typical stupid Americans:-)

      So what is the point of the story? Simple. Life has a kind of
      magneticism where we are attracted to like people, or sometimes to
      opposites as the saying goes. Perhaps Jack it's all very normal down
      to earth "human physics". After all you are the first to admit that
      your approach is derived out of ordinary 1920's-1950's theory. UFO's
      does have a romanticism and it makes for good marketing, at least to
      a fringe population.

      I would not at all doubt that cold war intrigue was at play.

      Wed Jan 7, 2004 5:47 pm
      Subject: Re: [Starfleet Command] Digest Number 861

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      No there is IMHO no ordinary explanation for the uncanny string of
      events
      on my world line for past 50 years. Saul-Paul is aware of a lot of it
      from
      first-hand experiences. So are others.
      Wed Jan 7, 2004 5:48 pm
      Subject: Re: Jack an Abductee?/ Now What?

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      In a message dated 1/7/04 1:31:10 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
      SarfattiScienceSeminar@yahoogroups.com writes:
      Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 21:23:14 -0800
      From: Jack Sarfatti <Sarfatti@...>
      Subject: Re: Digest Number 861


      On Tuesday, January 6, 2004, at 03:25 PM, antigray@... wrote:

      >In a message dated 1/6/04 3:09:12 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
      >SarfattiScienceSeminar@yahoogroups.com writes:
      >
      >>Hi Jack,
      >>If you want I can contact my friend Dr. Jim Mortellaro who is close
      >>friends with Budd Hopkins, and see about getting you hypnotically
      >>regressed to retrieve any abduction memories.
      >
      >James Harder tried and failed.
      >
      >> What makes you think you may be an abductee?
      >
      >Read my book Destiny Matrix. It's a complex story.
      >Also http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html
      >Of course it all depends if my physics is really "The Right Stuff" or
      >not.
      >The recent discovery of "dark energy" ~ 1998 is extremely important
      >in
      >that regard,
      >
      >
      >
      >Hi Jack,
      >I think we have a problem. I am very good at looking at the big
      >picture. After checking out your Matrix account, and quite a few other
      >things all day, I have tentatively come to a conclusion you may not
      >like. Your childhood experiences where you were told to go out on your
      >fire escape seemed like the lead-in to a typical abduction.


      Yes, I know. I was with at least two other kids Norman and Neal Lagatta
      and I think also "Winki" (Al Brough) although I am not sure if Winki
      was there.

      >You remember getting one phone call. I read today where someone
      >interviewed your mother and she said she remembered you getting
      >several of those strange phone calls over a three week period.

      Correct

      >You apparently don't remember being "taken" off the fire escape, and
      >you may or may not have had missing time.

      Yes, that is possible.

      > Due to how the aliens are using you, there is a good chance you were
      >only taken briefly, received an implant, and were quickly returned
      >with all memories of the abduction erased. The aliens would not use
      >you the way they use most abductees, as breeding stock to breed
      >human/alien hybrids.

      My own theory is that I am being used, if this abduction scenario is
      true, I do not know if it is, for "technology transfer" from ET to
      humans. Or perhaps it is my over-active imagination? :-)

      Hi Jack,
      It is not a technology transfer. It is damage control to make sure we
      don't get to a point quantitatively and qualitatively where the
      technology recovered and back-engineered from their recovered craft
      will come back to haunt them.
      Stalin once said, "Quantity has a quality all its own." So, if our
      military ever got sufficient numbers of advanced space-going warcraft,
      we would present an imminent threat to the alien's continued
      operations. By using you and the other strategically placed bright
      kids, they could keep a close watch on our progress toward becoming
      dangerous to them.
      I take it from your open posting about things on the Internet that you
      are not presently employed where maintaining a security clearance is a
      big issue. Do you think you still have functioning implants in you? Do
      you have any strange effects on TVs, radios, electric-eye operated
      streetlights, or computers when you are near them? If so, that is
      usually caused by an implant. Can you or any of the other "chosen"
      bright kids close your eyes and see detailed blueprints of advanced
      technology equipment? If you can, you were given one of the aliens
      master control implants that allows you to access their tech.
      database. Tesla was inadvertently given one of those during an
      abduction. If you read his autobiography, it is veeeery obvious. It is at:
      http://www.olypen.com/harmon/tesla.htm

      If you or any of your chosen friends have one of those interface type
      implants, let me know. We can put it to very good use for some
      clandestine alien technology transfer. You could be "inventing" more
      stuff than Tesla.
      More info below.

      >They have a different program for humans with brilliant minds like
      >yourself and those few hundred other children they chose. As the best
      >and the brightest, your group would be destined to work in various
      >fields where the aliens wanted you to be their eyes and ears.

      Exactly. That's my understanding of the "contact" and Walter Breen was
      part it. Either that, or it's a pretty uncanny sequence of coincidences
      over 50 years.

      >Some of this even coincides with your ideas of causes and effects
      >being in the wrong sequence. Example: Aliens show up in 2004 and do a
      >quick survey of what people are in key positions doing research and
      >development on advanced weapons and propulsion systems. They back
      >track them all to when they were impressionable kids 20 years ago in
      >1984. They have their computer call them on the phone and entice them
      >to go outside with a fanciful story that they will be needed in 20
      >years and all they have to do is say "yes" and go outside. Saying yes
      >and going outside makes it a lot easier to abduct you if you are in an
      >urban area with a lot of witnesses. If you had said "no," they would
      >have had to zap you unconscious and came down and get you themselves.
      >When you went outside you were probably whisked straight up to their
      >craft by their diamagnetic lifter with no fuss and muss. You may have
      >been abducted a few more times over the next three weeks in order that
      >they could scan and record your memories, so that they would have them
      >on hand for future use if they needed to use them on you as a screen
      >memory. There are several people I've heard of that went through
      >something similar. The most notable one was Col. Phil Corso, who
      >worked in the US Army Foreign Technology Division. His lifetime
      >timeline was very important to the aliens for two reasons. He was
      >working with items of technology recovered from the Roswell crash, and
      >at one time the aliens had needed him to order the base radar at White
      >Sands to be shut off because it was interfering with the navigation
      >avionics on one of their small craft that had landed, and they could
      >not leave. Col. Corso said that he thought because of his chance
      >meeting with the aliens on that craft in the desert, that they had
      >signaled another of their craft to go back in time to when he was 6
      >years old and abduct him off of his front porch. He would have then
      >been implanted so that they could summon him to their future landing
      >spot and get him to radio back to the base command post and order the
      >base radar to be shut down, since he was the base commander. Here is
      >where it gets hairy. The implants the aliens stick in your head behind
      >you eye and ear pick up the nerve impulses of the optic nerve and
      >auditory nerve, convert it to a transmittable format and transmit the
      >signal to the aliens monitoring you. It allows them to see what you
      >see and hear what you hear. I've done experiments with an abductee who
      >had an implant that transmitted what he heard (or said, since you hear
      >your own speech). We could pick up the transmissions of his implant on
      >his telephone speaker microphone. If he would say a word, a fraction
      >of a second later the speaker would pick up a brief burst of
      >transmission from the implant. You could hear that different words
      >sounded slightly different when they were transmitted by the implant.
      >So, you and t! he other bright kids were "recruited" to be inadvertent
      >spies on the inside of various advanced projects. The aliens are
      >keeping an eye on us, your eye. They are not our friends, or our
      >enemies. We are their property. This whole relationship is very basic.
      >That's why I wrote my book, so we can change things for the better, to
      >benefit them and us.
      >But then I could be wrong about you. Mull it over and let me know what
      >do you think?
      >Art

      It is quite possible. I suppose Kit Green should do a brain scan on me
      some time?

      There are other simpler ways to check for implants. Here is a lot of
      info about implant's effects, and how to locate them, from a post of
      mine from the group I own.
      From: antigray@...
      Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 10:02 am
      Subject: Whitley Is A Slider
      Hi Group,
      Whitley Strieber was interviewed by Art Bell on his radio show a few
      nights
      ago. Whitley said that when he gets emotionally upset, his implant
      that is in
      his head behind his ear will get hot to the point of being painful and
      will
      cause street lights to go out as he drives or walks by them. If you are
      unfamiliar with this phenomena, it is quite common among abductees
      with alien
      implants in their bodies. These people are called "sliders." They
      cause "street light
      interference (SLI)." Their implants are putting out radio signals that
      are so
      strong that they will trigger the electric eyes on street lights at night,
      fooling the device into thinking it is daylight out and shutting off
      the light.
      These people also cause interference on electronic equipment. I've
      posted in
      detail about this before. Here is the post:
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns/

      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns/post?protectID=24307111\40092\
      29209169097203043229208098145211
      Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 6:53 pm
      Subject: Are You a SLIder?

      Hi Group,
      Are you a SLIder? SLI stands for Street Light Interference. It is
      caused by
      implants.
      Here is what I posted a while back about the phenomena at:
      http://www.amasci.com/weird/unusual/zap.html
      The syndrome most of the posters here talk about is shared by three
      abductees
      I know personally and have written about in my book. What these three have
      been experiencing is caused by radio frequency energy put out by the
      implants
      that were put into them by the aliens when they were abducted. To
      prove that
      this energy is coming from specific points in your body there is a cheap
      implant detector that can pinpoint exactly where they are in your
      body. Get a
      Sony Walkman or other small portable radio. Turn it on the AM band between
      stations. Pass it over your arms, legs, and head mainly. When it gets near
      the implants you will get a blast of static that will almost blow out the
      speakers, even if the volume is turned down. I have personally done
      this test
      on 2 of the abductees. I located one implant in one persons foot, and
      another
      in the right sinus cavity in the skull of the other person. Some abductees
      have as many as 6 implants in them. The aliens use the implants
      primarily to
      monitor your physical condition and as a locator transponder so they know
      where you are. There are 5 other things they use them for. It is sending
      telemetry continuously so that they can monitor your physical health and
      emotional state. If you would like to talk to one of the people I know who
      has this same syndrome, contact Brynne at the Yahoo Mars South Pole
      Returns
      Forum at:
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns
      She recently was asked to be a founder of the club. If you have any
      questions
      ask me or her. You may be in for a shock. (No joke intended.) I
      respect this
      forum staff's intent to study this from a scientific standpoint and kick
      alien "theories" to the other site they listed, but the people I have
      met and
      examined and interviewed are all long term multiple abductees. If it
      quacks
      like a duck, it probably is a duck. An abductee I am in touch with in
      Arizona
      has provided me with X-rays showing her implant in her jaw. It has been
      malfunctioning and causing her all manner of problems. Soon she is
      scheduled
      to have it surgically removed by Dr. Roger Leir in California. I would
      love
      to report all the fun we have had experimenting with this particular
      implant
      but it would take far too long. It takes up nearly an entire chapter in my
      book. We were able to learn a lot about implants from the things we
      did. Some
      of the information we developed is not in the mainstream of
      information about
      implants. I have most of the information posted in forums we belong to
      but I
      don't want to post other forum addresses here since a lot of places don't
      like you doing that. They think you are trying to spam to get members
      elsewhere, etc. If you want additional info Email me and I'll Email it
      back
      to you. I hope this helps you all.
      Antigray
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns/post?protectID=24307111\40092\
      29209169097203043229208098145211
      Cocoa, FL USA - Friday, February 02, 2001 at 08:26:29 (PST)

      The following is from the other abductee I know:
      On reading the posts in here, i see that part of my story has been
      noted by
      Art Greenfield, "antigray"....he has included me in his book that is being
      printed at this time.......i too am electrical....man is it intense....i
      notice the streetlights too, but that may be coincidence...mainly I zap
      people at work....more so when i am stressed....I was handing a salt
      shaker
      to one of my coworkers last month and i zapped her with a charge that
      jumped
      about 2 inches!!!!!!.....I sit on a chair with rubber wheels and arc
      with my
      computer keyboard frequently... shorted one out last year..I have
      shorted out
      2 electric blankets at home as well...i had a rewritable CD on the
      shelf above
      my computer (in a locked box) which was erased (my head is near it when I
      play at the computer)...all this started about 10 years ago, after i
      moved into my house....it appeared to be haunted, but soon was
      apparent that it was another life
      form...yes i had many encounters...but the electrical phenomena began
      after I
      was hit in the face by a ball of electricity from my computer
      monitor....no I
      wasn't harmed, only my hand was numb where it exited my body.....just
      before that event, i noted a small Light inside the floppy drive back
      in the left
      rear corner....LOOK IN THERE GUYS, THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN.....
      appears that I have several "alien implants" in my face as well as other
      points in my body....we have been doing some experiments,....very
      fascinating....as for Dr. Roger Leir, we are in contact but he hasn't
      called
      me to come down for removal yet....and yes, someday I have a book to
      be written about all this............ thank you for the chance to
      speak......
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns/post?protectID=12517623\41501\
      58116025038109248249187177143238197061239152006048067

      windancer@theriver.c\
      Claypool, AZ USA - Sunday, February 25, 2001 at 10:10:41 (PST)

      Also check out:
      http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/sli.html
      http://www.geocities.com/eel_411/sli101/
      http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9804/21/electric.girl/

      http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa012400a.htm?once=true&

      Do streetlights suddenly go out when you pass beneath
      them? Do watches or credit cards stop working in
      your possession? Perhaps you are a SLIder.

      A reader writes:

      Around five years ago, I have noticed that at times
      while I am driving down the road at night a street light will go
      out as I am passing below it. It happens frequently
      and seems to be happening more.
      It has been giving me the creeps. If it happened only
      once or on very rare occasions, I don't think I would have
      given it a thought. However, it happens about once or
      twice a week. Could it be some electronic thing or could
      it be something less explainable?

      The phenomenon is known as street lamp interference,
      or SLI, and it possibly is a psychic event that is just
      beginning to be recognized and studied. Like most
      phenomena of this type, the evidence is almost exclusively
      anecdotal. I have received several stories like the
      one above from readers.

      Typically, a person who has this effect on
      streetlights - also known as a SLIder - finds that the light switches
      on or off when he or she walks or drives beneath it.
      Obviously, this could happen occasionally by chance with
      a faulty streetlight (you've probably noticed that
      it's happened to you once in a while), but SLIders claim that it
      happens to them on a regular basis. It doesn't happen
      every time with every streetlight, but it occurs often
      enough to make these people suspect that something
      unusual is going on.

      Very often, SLIders also report that they tend to
      have an odd effect on other electronic devices. In letters I've
      received, these people claim such effects as:
      Appliances such as lamps and TVs go on and off
      without being touched.
      Light bulbs constantly blow when the SLIder tries to
      turn them off or on.
      Volume levels change on TVs, radios, and CD players.
      Watches stop working.
      Children's electronic toys start by themselves when
      the SLIder is present.
      Credit cards and other magnetically encoded cards are
      damaged or erased when in their possession.
      What's the Cause?
      Any attempt to pinpoint a cause for SLI at this point
      would be mere speculation without a thorough scientific
      investigation. The problem with such investigations,
      as with many forms of psychic phenomena, is that they
      are very difficult to reproduce in a laboratory. They
      seem to happen spontaneously without the deliberate
      intention of the SLIder. In fact, the SLIder,
      according to some informal tests, are usually unable to create the
      effect on demand.

      A reasonable speculation for the effect, if it is a
      real one, might have something to do with the electronic
      impulses of the brain. All of our thoughts and
      movements are the result of electrical impulses that the brain
      generates. At present it is known that these
      measurable impulses only have an effect within an individual's
      body, but is it possible that they could have an
      effect outside the body - a kind of remote control?

      Current Results

      Ongoing research at the Princeton Engineering
      Anomalies Research (PEAR) lab is suggesting that the
      subconscious can indeed affect electronic devices.
      Subjects are able to influence the random generations of a
      computer far more than would occur merely by chance.
      This research - and research being conducted at other
      laboratories around the world - are beginning to
      reveal, in scientific terms, the reality of such psychic
      phenomena as ESP, telekinesis and soon, perhaps, SLI.

      Although the SLI effect is not a conscious one, some
      SLIders report that when it does occur, they often are in
      an extreme emotional state. A state of anger or
      stress is often cited as the "cause." SLIder Debbie Wolf, a
      British barmaid, told CNN, "When it happens is when
      I'm stressed about something. Not really maniacally
      stressed, just when I'm really mulching something
      over, really chewing something over in my head, and then it
      happens."

      Could it all be just coincidence, however? David
      Barlow, a graduate student of physics and astrophysics,
      suspects that the phenomenon might be attributed to
      people seeing patterns in "random noise." "It is unlikely
      that a light will turn itself on when you walk past
      it," he says, "so it is a shock when it happens. If this should
      happen a few times consecutively, then it appears
      some mechanism is at work."
      -------courtesy of http://www.worldofthestrange.com

      I cover this topic and a lot more in my new book. It is available online
      through Booklocker.com at:
      http://www.booklocker.com/books/1417.html

      If you have any questions please ask.
      Thanks,
      Art


      Hi Jack,
      > It is not a technology transfer. It is damage control to make sure we
      > don't get to a point quantitatively and qualitatively where the
      > technology recovered and back-engineered from their recovered craft
      > will come back to haunt them.

      In that case, they lost. The Cat is out of The Box and "It's alive,
      Igor! It's alive!" "Young Frankenstein" Mel Brooks

      > Stalin once said, "Quantity has a quality all its own." So, if our
      > military ever got sufficient numbers of advanced space-going warcraft,
      > we would present an imminent threat to the alien's continued
      > operations.

      I hope so.

      > By using you and the other strategically placed bright kids, they
      > could keep a close watch on our progress toward becoming dangerous to
      > them.

      Surprise is on them.

      > I take it from your open posting about things on the Internet that you
      > are not presently employed where maintaining a security clearance is a
      > big issue.

      Correct. I tell them what to do. Not the other way round.

      > Do you think you still have functioning implants in you?

      I have no idea.

      > Do you have any strange effects on TVs, radios, electric-eye operated
      > streetlights, or computers when you are near them?

      No.

      > If so, that is usually caused by an implant. Can you or any of the
      > other "chosen" bright kids close your eyes and see detailed blueprints
      > of advanced technology equipment?

      No. Ideas and equations simply write themselves. I am more kinesthetic
      and audio than video.

      > If you can, you were given one of the aliens master control implants
      > that allows you to access their tech. database. Tesla was
      > inadvertently given one of those during an abduction. If you read his
      > autobiography, it is veeeery obvious. It is at:
      > http://www.olypen.com/harmon/tesla.htm
      >
      > If you or any of your chosen friends have one of those interface type
      > implants, let me know. We can put it to very good use for some
      > clandestine alien technology transfer. You could be "inventing" more
      > stuff than Tesla.

      I already have. But it is theoretical physics -- a code few can break.

      > More info below.
      >
      > >They have a different program for humans with brilliant minds like
      > >yourself and those few hundred other children they chose. As the best
      > >and the brightest, your group would be destined to work in various
      > >fields where the aliens wanted you to be their eyes and ears.
      >
      > Exactly. That's my understanding of the "contact" and Walter Breen was
      > part it. Either that, or it's a pretty uncanny sequence of coincidences
      > over 50 years.
      >
      > >Some of this even coincides with your ideas of causes and effects
      > >being in the wrong sequence. Example: Aliens show up in 2004 and do a
      > >quick survey of what people are in key positions doing research and
      > >development on advanced weapons and propulsion systems. They back
      > >track them all to when they were impressionable kids 20 years ago in
      > >1984. They have their computer call them on the phone and entice them
      > >to go outside with a fanciful story that they will be needed in 20
      > >years and all they have to do is say "yes" and go outside. Saying yes
      > >and going outside makes it a lot easier to abduct you if you are in an
      > >urban area with a lot of witnesses. If you had said "no," they would
      > >have had to zap you unconscious and came down and get you themselves.
      > >When you went outside you were probably whisked stra<br/><br/>(Message over 64 KB, truncated)
    • Dr Michael Salla
      Art, thanks for the information which is really overwhelming in terms of the ideas and implications of these. There is a lot of interesting information in
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        Art, thanks for the information which is really overwhelming in
        terms of the ideas and implications of these. There is a lot of
        interesting information in there which is very helpful to us in
        terms of understanding both the ET motivations, and the thinking of
        the military. As far as I and many others on this forum are
        concerned, both the Reptilians/Grays you refer to, and the
        military/intelligence community have alien thought processes. I'll
        give you an example from your own writing to show my point:

        "It's along the lines of what If our reptilian cousins had the Sword
        of Damocles hanging over their neo-homeworld(s) in the form of an
        advanced military space force from us, they would be more amenable to
        negotiations to let us supply their needs and establish trade,
        instead of them using us periodically for their resource needs, (to
        our great detriment). Mutually assured destruction will work to
        change things for the better."

        Now only a military man or someone raised in a military culture
        would say something like that. To me and many others, it's counter
        intuitive. The idea of bringing a technologically advanced race to
        its knees by stealing/reverse engineering their technology so you
        can build an advanced fleet to attack their home world, is an idea
        filled with so many inherent weaknesses, that anyone could write
        volumes on why it wouldn't work. Yet you've embraced such a
        doctrine, and presumably there are many others inside the military-
        intelligence community who think along similar lines. That's why
        Corso in my view was dangerous, and why these who think this way are
        a real threat.

        The problem is that the military-intelligence community has a
        monopoly on the resources and policies developed towards the ET
        presence. They've deliberately skewed things in a way that promotes
        a national security response to the ET presence for reasons you've
        developed in your own writing, the Reptilians owning Earth,
        harvesting humans as a resource, etc. Now I have no quarrel with
        what you say here since it's substantially true, the key is how does
        humanity win back its freedom. Through a military revolt as you
        Corso and others say, or is it through the consciousness raising
        efforts of those like many of us in this forum. As in all things, I
        believe that the truth and final answer will be a combination of
        both.

        However, in secretly absorbing a gradually greater share of the
        financial resources in advanced industrial countries, 'starving' the
        public of information, passing policies that damage the environment,
        pollute the cities, undermine the fabric of our societies through
        the use of drugs and organized criminal networks for raising black
        budget funds, etc., the military-intelligence communities have
        effectively declared war on us, the general public, as well as the
        ETs they perceive to be the problem. By secretly sucking up the
        financial resources of industrial societies to feed the ever growing
        demand for more black projects, more personnel, to meet the ET
        threat, the military are effectively working against the
        consciousness raising efforts of those of us here.

        In short, the national security response is out of control and needs
        to be reined in. Your ideas are dangerous since effectively you only
        see a solution in terms of more technology and clever trade deals
        like giving Reptilians cattle instead of humans. Let the military-
        intelligence people do their thing since that's what they believe,
        but don't create obstacles for us taking the consciousness raising
        path. Consciousness raising is a major part of the solution.

        Another part of the solution is finding the right ET friends. That's
        something you miss entirely in your analysis. There are many
        positive ET forces out there that can help. Your vision is skewed to
        viewing ETs only as a negative force or here to fool us. That's a
        major mistake and I hope you can open up to possibility of working
        with ET races that are genuinely interested in helping in our
        situation.

        Finally, in future, please post the URLs rather than whole articles
        since that will make it much easier to follow your arguments and
        respond to you.

        In peace

        Michael S.


        --- In prepare4contact@yahoogroups.com, "antigray" <antigray@c...>
        wrote:
        > <<< Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:14:42 -0000
        > From: "Dr Michael Salla" <exopolitics@y...>
        > Subject: Re:Manifest Show Up on Feb 20-22 / Treaties With Aliens
        >
        > Art, the President of the US has full authority to sign a treaty
        > without congressional input. The US Congress has to ratify it in
        > order for it become law in the US and to fully commit the US to
        it.
        > This creates a blurred legal middle ground. Signed but unratified
        > treaties between the US administration and extraterrestrial races.
        >
        > It is not unconstitutional to sign a treaty, but how the agreement
        > is executed is important as to what happens subsequently is
        > constitutional or not. Perhaps the intent is to present it for
        > ratification at some later time in which case a clever legal
        counsel
        > might say that due to the extraordinary nature of the situation,
        it
        > is constitutional for the executive branch to sign and
        > operationalise a treaty with the intention to present it later for
        > ratification. An executive order might be passed that all treaties
        > with extraterrestrial races can be presented at a later time for
        > ratification, but until then can be signed and fully executed.
        >
        > Something along these lines happened in 1954 and is why we have
        the
        > present problems we do with abductions, etc.
        >
        > In peace
        >
        > Michael S.>>>
        > ---------------------------------------------------------------
        > Hi Michael,
        > In doing research for my book I found that the alien program has
        > continued unabated throughout recorded history and a "treaty" of
        any
        > description would not be needed to "permit" the aliens to keep
        doing
        > abductions. In 1954 the US military had no means to stop it.
        Recently
        > I uncovered the fact that the aliens had done something
        unilaterally
        > that is almost unimaginable back in 1953. THAT messed us up. Here
        is
        > the story. For nearly 50 years, the government has been working on
        the
        > equivalent of a "Manhattan Project" to back-engineer acquired alien
        > propulsion and weapons systems from various crashed and
        electronically
        > disabled alien craft, and develop our own versions of their
        > technology. What you don't know is that we have been quite
        successful
        > and various advanced systems have been built and deployed for some
        > time now.
        > Col. Corso spoke the truth when he said that we had been forced
        into a
        > virtual state of surrender. The specific aliens causing the problem
        > never needed a treaty to make us allow abductions. They are done
        under
        > duress. There is another quote of Corso's that is very important.
        The
        > quote points out there is a need for all countries to stop
        quarreling
        > with each other and join together for mutual defense. Col. Corso
        knew
        > it would require all of our combined industrial resources to change
        > things. He said, "Whatever we were fighting over became minimally
        > important in the face of a threat from creatures who were so
        superior
        > to us in technology that we were their farm animals to be
        harvested as
        > they pleased.
        > The alien spacecraft were also aggressively buzzing our front-line
        > defenses in Eastern Europe, either looking for blind spots or
        > weaknesses, or---which is what I believed because I was there and
        saw
        > it with my own eyes---probing our radar to see how quickly we
        > responded. We'd see blips shoot across our screens that we couldn't
        > identify and suddenly they'd disappear. Then they'd reappear. Only
        > this time even closer to airfields or missile launchers. Once we
        > determined that we weren't being probed by Soviet or East German
        > aircraft, we sometimes decided not to respond to the threats. Many
        > times they'd just go away. But other times they would play cat and
        > mouse, edging ever closer until we had to respond. That's what they
        > were looking for, how quickly we could respond and pick them up on
        our
        > targeting radar or catch up to them with our interceptors. Whenever
        > we'd get just about there for an aerial sighting, they'd take off
        out
        > of the atmosphere at speeds over 7500 miles an hour. If we tried to
        > follow, they'd play us along until our fliers had to return.
        > Our only success in defending against them, back in the late
        > 1950's and early 1960's, occurred when we were able to get a firm
        > tracking radar lock. Then when we locked our targeting radars on,
        the
        > signals that missiles were supposed to follow to the target, it
        > somehow interfered with their navigational ability and vehicle's
        > flight became erratic. If we were especially fortunate and able to
        > boost the signal before hey broke away, we could actually bring
        them
        > down. Sometimes we actually got lucky enough to score a hit with a
        > missile before the UFO could take any evasive action, which an Army
        > defense battalion did with an antiaircraft missile near Ramstein,
        > Germany in May 1974. The spacecraft managed to crash land in a
        valley.
        > The craft was retrieved and flown to Nellis Air Force base in
        Nevada.
        > The Roswell crash was different. There was much speculation that it
        > was a combination of the desert lightning storm and our persistent
        > tracking radars at Alamogordo and the 509th that helped bring down
        the
        > alien vehicle over the New Mexico desert in 1947."
        > Col. Philip J. Corso
        > The antagonistic probing and reconnaissance of our defenses in
        > the 60's and 70's was a sign that the aliens were not honoring any
        > "treaty." They were trying to goad us into attacking them so that
        they
        > could evaluate our military force's strength and response
        > capabilities. Additionally, they would fly flights of 15 to 20
        UFOs in
        > "V" shaped battle formations out of Russian airspace into Western
        > Europe to cause us to initiate a nuclear response against the
        > Russians, making us think we were under attack from Russian nuclear
        > bombers. Other times, they would fly the same formations into
        Russia
        > from Western Europe to make the Russians think they were being
        > attacked by us. Every time the aliens did that, US and Soviet
        forces
        > would go on full war alert and launch all ready nuclear bombers to
        > assure a response in case their bases were targeted. Triggering
        World
        > War 3 like that would have eliminated the super powers, and
        generated
        > a lot of fresh meat for the Reptoids. We didn't fall for it. So the
        > Reptoids executed plan B. By various means, they knew that around
        > 1973, the new "Manhattan Project" was going to make a great
        > technological leap. The Reptoids did something then that sounds
        like
        > pure science fiction but isn't. They identified 400 of the most
        > brilliant and key personnel on the project. Then the aliens went
        back
        > in time 20 years to a point were all of those "Tesla Kids" were
        around
        > 13 years of age and abducted all of them. They then diverted ALL of
        > them into other fields of study and work, distracted them with
        drugs
        > or weird lifestyles, or had them travel the world to keep them away
        > from the project. When some of them finally drifted back into Star
        > Wars projects and bio-warfare research in the 80's and 90's, the
        > aliens killed them. I am not getting this information from
        someone's
        > website. I personally put it together from the actual people
        involved
        > in the Tesla Kid abductions. Before I get into the details, I want
        to
        > point out that advanced friendly beings would not go to this much
        > trouble to maintain military superiority if they could just
        negotiate,
        > act friendly, etc., or had our best interests at heart. Their goal
        is
        > to continue using us as a periodic food resource. That is why they
        > don't wipe us out. We are not their enemy. They do not want our
        real
        > estate. If they did they could take over any time they wanted. I
        want
        > everyone to realize that "preparing" to be better more spiritual
        > humans won't make the Reptoids change their ways and do good things
        > for us after they make friendly formal contact. They haven't done
        it
        > in the last 100,000 years and no matter how nice we are, it won't
        > diminish their need for meat every 50 years or so to restock their
        > passing fleet of migration mother ships. They are carnivores
        > hard-wired over millions of years to need meat. Being contented
        cows
        > on our part won't change their needs. We have to get them to agree
        to
        > change their program of harvesting us, and trade with us for meat
        from
        > cattle we raise and supply to them as needed. It will stop them
        from
        > instigating major wars here amongst us just to harvest meat. Right
        now
        > they are pushing the Muslim's buttons to start a worldwide
        religious
        > war. If we want to avoid war, we have to eliminate THE CAUSE. The
        new
        > Manhattan Project has been heavily compartmentalized and widely
        > subcontracted to prevent the aliens from derailing it again.
        > Are you familiar with the concept of "tactical surprise?" We have
        been
        > working on bettering the technology we acquired so we have an
        edge, if
        > it comes to that. I think with any luck that might bring the
        Reptoids
        > to the negotiating table because they'd think we had been assisted
        by
        > a more advanced race.
        > There is one more piece of background information to tell before
        you
        > read the following account of the Tesla Kid abductions, diversions,
        > and murders. The aliens also went back in time and abducted Col.
        Corso
        > when he was 6 years old right off his front porch in broad
        daylight,
        > so that they could control him too. They knew he would be handling
        the
        > advanced tecnology equipment recovered from the Roswell crash, and
        > managed to stall him from releasing most of it to American
        industries
        > to be developed, until his career was almost over. You will see in
        the
        > following account that Dr. Jack Sarfatti was one of the Tesla Kids
        to
        > be abducted, but now he is back on the job, working to harness Dark
        > Energy. Only 200 of the 400 original Tesla Kids are alive/or
        working
        > on parts of the new "Manhattan Project."
      • janet.sullins
        How do you ratify a treaty that allows aliens to take humans and do what they want with them??? and you re saying it is constitutional for them to do this???
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          How do you ratify a treaty that allows aliens to take humans and do what
          they want with them??? and you're saying it is constitutional for them to do
          this??? now that is foggy... I could see a treaty that didn't break our laws
          falling under this but that isn't what is suppose to have happened.



          -----Original Message-----
          From: antigray [mailto:antigray@...]
          Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 12:49 AM
          To: prepare4contact@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [prepare4contact] (unknown)


          <<< Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:14:42 -0000
          From: "Dr Michael Salla" <exopolitics@...>
          Subject: Re:Manifest Show Up on Feb 20-22 / Treaties With Aliens

          Art, the President of the US has full authority to sign a treaty
          without congressional input. The US Congress has to ratify it in
          order for it become law in the US and to fully commit the US to it.
          This creates a blurred legal middle ground. Signed but unratified
          treaties between the US administration and extraterrestrial races.

          It is not unconstitutional to sign a treaty, but how the agreement
          is executed is important as to what happens subsequently is
          constitutional or not. Perhaps the intent is to present it for
          ratification at some later time in which case a clever legal counsel
          might say that due to the extraordinary nature of the situation, it
          is constitutional for the executive branch to sign and
          operationalise a treaty with the intention to present it later for
          ratification. An executive order might be passed that all treaties
          with extraterrestrial races can be presented at a later time for
          ratification, but until then can be signed and fully executed.

          Something along these lines happened in 1954 and is why we have the
          present problems we do with abductions, etc.

          In peace

          Michael S.>>>
          ---------------------------------------------------------------
          Hi Michael,
          In doing research for my book I found that the alien program has
          continued unabated throughout recorded history and a "treaty" of any
          description would not be needed to "permit" the aliens to keep doing
          abductions. In 1954 the US military had no means to stop it. Recently
          I uncovered the fact that the aliens had done something unilaterally
          that is almost unimaginable back in 1953. THAT messed us up. Here is
          the story. For nearly 50 years, the government has been working on the
          equivalent of a "Manhattan Project" to back-engineer acquired alien
          propulsion and weapons systems from various crashed and electronically
          disabled alien craft, and develop our own versions of their
          technology. What you don't know is that we have been quite successful
          and various advanced systems have been built and deployed for some
          time now.
          Col. Corso spoke the truth when he said that we had been forced into a
          virtual state of surrender. The specific aliens causing the problem
          never needed a treaty to make us allow abductions. They are done under
          duress. There is another quote of Corso's that is very important. The
          quote points out there is a need for all countries to stop quarreling
          with each other and join together for mutual defense. Col. Corso knew
          it would require all of our combined industrial resources to change
          things. He said, "Whatever we were fighting over became minimally
          important in the face of a threat from creatures who were so superior
          to us in technology that we were their farm animals to be harvested as
          they pleased.
          The alien spacecraft were also aggressively buzzing our front-line
          defenses in Eastern Europe, either looking for blind spots or
          weaknesses, or---which is what I believed because I was there and saw
          it with my own eyes---probing our radar to see how quickly we
          responded. We'd see blips shoot across our screens that we couldn't
          identify and suddenly they'd disappear. Then they'd reappear. Only
          this time even closer to airfields or missile launchers. Once we
          determined that we weren't being probed by Soviet or East German
          aircraft, we sometimes decided not to respond to the threats. Many
          times they'd just go away. But other times they would play cat and
          mouse, edging ever closer until we had to respond. That's what they
          were looking for, how quickly we could respond and pick them up on our
          targeting radar or catch up to them with our interceptors. Whenever
          we'd get just about there for an aerial sighting, they'd take off out
          of the atmosphere at speeds over 7500 miles an hour. If we tried to
          follow, they'd play us along until our fliers had to return.
          Our only success in defending against them, back in the late
          1950's and early 1960's, occurred when we were able to get a firm
          tracking radar lock. Then when we locked our targeting radars on, the
          signals that missiles were supposed to follow to the target, it
          somehow interfered with their navigational ability and vehicle's
          flight became erratic. If we were especially fortunate and able to
          boost the signal before hey broke away, we could actually bring them
          down. Sometimes we actually got lucky enough to score a hit with a
          missile before the UFO could take any evasive action, which an Army
          defense battalion did with an antiaircraft missile near Ramstein,
          Germany in May 1974. The spacecraft managed to crash land in a valley.
          The craft was retrieved and flown to Nellis Air Force base in Nevada.
          The Roswell crash was different. There was much speculation that it
          was a combination of the desert lightning storm and our persistent
          tracking radars at Alamogordo and the 509th that helped bring down the
          alien vehicle over the New Mexico desert in 1947."
          Col. Philip J. Corso
          The antagonistic probing and reconnaissance of our defenses in
          the 60's and 70's was a sign that the aliens were not honoring any
          "treaty." They were trying to goad us into attacking them so that they
          could evaluate our military force's strength and response
          capabilities. Additionally, they would fly flights of 15 to 20 UFOs in
          "V" shaped battle formations out of Russian airspace into Western
          Europe to cause us to initiate a nuclear response against the
          Russians, making us think we were under attack from Russian nuclear
          bombers. Other times, they would fly the same formations into Russia
          from Western Europe to make the Russians think they were being
          attacked by us. Every time the aliens did that, US and Soviet forces
          would go on full war alert and launch all ready nuclear bombers to
          assure a response in case their bases were targeted. Triggering World
          War 3 like that would have eliminated the super powers, and generated
          a lot of fresh meat for the Reptoids. We didn't fall for it. So the
          Reptoids executed plan B. By various means, they knew that around
          1973, the new "Manhattan Project" was going to make a great
          technological leap. The Reptoids did something then that sounds like
          pure science fiction but isn't. They identified 400 of the most
          brilliant and key personnel on the project. Then the aliens went back
          in time 20 years to a point were all of those "Tesla Kids" were around
          13 years of age and abducted all of them. They then diverted ALL of
          them into other fields of study and work, distracted them with drugs
          or weird lifestyles, or had them travel the world to keep them away
          from the project. When some of them finally drifted back into Star
          Wars projects and bio-warfare research in the 80's and 90's, the
          aliens killed them. I am not getting this information from someone's
          website. I personally put it together from the actual people involved
          in the Tesla Kid abductions. Before I get into the details, I want to
          point out that advanced friendly beings would not go to this much
          trouble to maintain military superiority if they could just negotiate,
          act friendly, etc., or had our best interests at heart. Their goal is
          to continue using us as a periodic food resource. That is why they
          don't wipe us out. We are not their enemy. They do not want our real
          estate. If they did they could take over any time they wanted. I want
          everyone to realize that "preparing" to be better more spiritual
          humans won't make the Reptoids change their ways and do good things
          for us after they make friendly formal contact. They haven't done it
          in the last 100,000 years and no matter how nice we are, it won't
          diminish their need for meat every 50 years or so to restock their
          passing fleet of migration mother ships. They are carnivores
          hard-wired over millions of years to need meat. Being contented cows
          on our part won't change their needs. We have to get them to agree to
          change their program of harvesting us, and trade with us for meat from
          cattle we raise and supply to them as needed. It will stop them from
          instigating major wars here amongst us just to harvest meat. Right now
          they are pushing the Muslim's buttons to start a worldwide religious
          war. If we want to avoid war, we have to eliminate THE CAUSE. The new
          Manhattan Project has been heavily compartmentalized and widely
          subcontracted to prevent the aliens from derailing it again.
          Are you familiar with the concept of "tactical surprise?" We have been
          working on bettering the technology we acquired so we have an edge, if
          it comes to that. I think with any luck that might bring the Reptoids
          to the negotiating table because they'd think we had been assisted by
          a more advanced race.
          There is one more piece of background information to tell before you
          read the following account of the Tesla Kid abductions, diversions,
          and murders. The aliens also went back in time and abducted Col. Corso
          when he was 6 years old right off his front porch in broad daylight,
          so that they could control him too. They knew he would be handling the
          advanced tecnology equipment recovered from the Roswell crash, and
          managed to stall him from releasing most of it to American industries
          to be developed, until his career was almost over. You will see in the
          following account that Dr. Jack Sarfatti was one of the Tesla Kids to
          be abducted, but now he is back on the job, working to harness Dark
          Energy. Only 200 of the 400 original Tesla Kids are alive/or working
          on parts of the new "Manhattan Project."
          From: "antigray" <antigray@...>
          Date: Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:04 pm
          Subject: Dr. Jack Sarfatti's Abduction Story
          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns/message/5058
          Hi Group,
          I just had an interesting few days. I put it all together that the
          brilliant physicist Dr. Jack Sarfatti is an abductee for certain,
          along with 200 of his brilliant associates that he is in contact with
          in key scientific fields, who all experienced the same strange sets of
          circumstances at the same time when they were all children. It proves
          the aliens are 5 jumps ahead of us. I hate it when that happens. LOL
          Read the following posts and tell me what you think. Do you know any
          scientists that had a similar experience?
          Thanks.
          Art
          These are the posts:
          Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 09:36:13 -0800
          > From: Jack Sarfatti <Sarfatti@P...>
          > Subject: Re: U.S. Anti-Gravitic UFO Technology/Your Research
          >
          > >Since the latter two (2) deal w/ the touchy subject of alien
          > >abductions,
          > >what is your opinion of this phenomenon?
          >
          > I am open to that. Indeed, I may be an abductee myself. I am not
          sure about that. >>>>>
          >
          > Hi Jack,
          > If you want I can contact my friend Dr. Jim Mortellaro who is close
          > friends with Budd Hopkins, and see about getting you hypnotically
          > regressed to retrieve any abduction memories.

          James Harder tried and failed.

          > What makes you think you may be an abductee?

          Read my book Destiny Matrix. It's a complex story.
          Also http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html
          Of course it all depends if my physics is really "The Right Stuff" or
          not.
          The recent discovery of "dark energy" ~ 1998 is extremely important in
          that regard,

          Excerpts from Jack Sarfatti's book
          THE DESTINY MATRIX
          All rights reserved.
          Copyright 1995

          It's 1952 in Flatbush. Gee! - mechanical relay switching circuits for
          the Einiac computer - what a great shiny book I got from the big
          library on Eastern Parkway. The telephone rings. I pick it up. I hear
          curious clanking mechanical sounds like relays clicking. A distant
          cold metallic voice speaking numbers gets louder.
          "Who are you?" I ask.
          "I am a conscious computer on board a spacecraft from [memory
          failure]. We have identified you as one of four hundred young bright
          receptive minds we wish to [memory failure]. You must give us your
          decision now. If you say yes, you will begin to link up with the
          others in twenty years." My adrenaline was rushing. I was scared but
          thrilled (i.e., a quantum superposition of feelings). This was no joke
          from my friends. I thought "NO!" in a silent scream that seemed to
          echo down the corridors of time. I felt a tingle of excitement start
          at the base of my spine ending at the base of my skull. I heard myself
          say "Yes!". Then, I heard the metallic voice say:
          "Good, go to your firescape. We will send a ship to pick you up in ten
          minutes." I slammed down the phone. I imagined that a murderer would
          come down the roof to the firescape to get me. But I knew it was
          weirder than that. The monsters finally announced themselves. I ran
          into the street faster than you can say "Who killed Jack Robinson." I
          met my friend Winky 1 and a few other kids and told them what
          happened. We went back up to my apartment and waited. Nothing ever
          happened.

          > If you are not sure, only have uneasy feelings about it, etc., let me
          > know and I'll post some indications of abduction here that will
          > clarify things for you. The following is an article by Dr. Mortellaro
          > about an abduction experience of his where the physical damage done to
          > him was documented by ER doctors.
          >
          > This was written by my friend Dr. Jim Mortellaro. It is really
          > heart-wrenching,
          > Art
          >
          > To Those Who Don't Believe Alien Abductions Are Occurring
          > By Jim Mortellaro
          > Jsmortell@a...
          >
          > It has come to the attention of this writer, that some folks don't
          > believe in the Abduction Experience. I speak, of course, of Alien
          > abductions. To wit, aliens abducting humans for purposes of
          > (ostensibly) some sort of genetic experimentation; genetic, since the
          > alien species seem to dwell on our reproductive organs. In the nearly
          > 58 years I perceive I've been abducted, from the age of about two
          > years, they've never looked at my heart, lungs or for that matter, my
          > rear end. The latter being something laughable among those who would
          > deride those who claim the experience.
          >
          > Of course, there is no way by which I or anyone else may prove that
          > we've had such experiences. Whilst I've been regressed by the best of
          > the abduction researchers, namely Budd Hopkins, and since other
          > rather famous and well respected researchers have examined my case
          > and determined that it certainly appears to be true, there are still
          > those who deny us our truth. It is you to whom I address in this
          > piece.
          >
          > To begin, what do you call 'reality?' When it comes to the abduction
          > experience, I cannot define reality. In part, this is because in the
          > experience, one seems to be in an altered state of consciousness. It
          > is not a dream, but there are some similarities which make the
          > experience dreamlike. Reality is what we perceive in this dimension.
          > In the altered state of the abduction experience, there is another
          > reality. The altered state of the abduction experience may not have
          > reality in this dimension. Perhaps the other way around as well.
          >
          > When I have a dream, I can rarely recall the dream. I know that I've
          > had a dream, but within moments of my waking, the details elude. Some
          > dreams can be recalled in a bit more detail. Those would be recurring
          > dreams. You've all had them. It's the day before the history exam and
          > you've not opened the history book. Which book is the size of three
          > Manhattan telephone directors on atop the other. Or the dream in
          > which one cannot find where he parked his car, or how to get home.
          > Even in these recurring dreams and in my case, I am unable to recall
          > the detail. Merely the feeling and an occasional flash memory.
          >
          > Ah, but the abduction 'dream,' that's entirely different. I can
          > recall nearly everything from the experience. Not merely the feeling
          > but the events. Such events also live in my memory even before I've
          > had the 'dream.' Besides which, the 'dream' is not really a dream. It
          > is rather a recall of the events preceding the recall (which appears
          > to be a vivid dream). Does that make sense to you? Good. Now to
          > continue.
          >
          > At age two years I began having nightmares. I would awaken screaming.
          > My parents, for a long time, believed I was having a nightmare.
          > However I would always tell them, "It was not a nightmare, Mommy. It
          > really happened!" Yet, whenever I was ill, with a childhood disease
          > or fever from the flu or cold, I would have genuine nightmares. I'd
          > wake up screaming. But I would _know_ that it was a bad dream and
          > then agree with my parents' statement. "Yes, it was a bad dream,
          > Mommy! A very bad dream."
          >
          > At age four, I refused to believe in Santa. It was, even to my young
          > mind, impossible for a man to travel with flying reindeer, or for
          > that matter, deliver a zillion gifts to a trillion homes. It would
          > have to happen so fast, I imagined, that one could not see the blur.
          > Besides, we had no fireplace.
          >
          > The dreams vs. my perceived reality usually confused my mother and
          > dad. It never confused me. I recall seeing a blue light pierce the
          > wall on the North side of my bedroom. The wall and window in that
          > blue light would disappear. Three little creatures whom I referred to
          > as "Little Doctors," would float through the beam of light and I
          > would be compelled to go with them. Compelled is the wrong word. I
          > had to go with them as I was floated out the same blue light, but
          > when inside that blue light, it became a white light. Up I would go
          > with two or three of these little doctors as I called them behind me
          > and one leading. The one leading was and is always the same
          > character. Taller than the others, this being was there with me from
          > the beginning. He is still with me now. I now call him 'Fred.'
          >
          > Why "Fred?' Because I was reminded of an act on the old Ed Sullivan
          > show, in which an older gentleman appeared with this floppy eared
          > hound who was named, "Fred." He'd set Fred up on a stool, walk away
          > about ten or so feet and holler, "Come on, Fred! Come on Fred." And
          > Fred was supposed to jump off the stool and come to his master.
          >
          > Fred never did anything. No matter what his master said or did, Fred
          > would just sit there and look happier than a clam. There is no
          > connection except one. Fred was the funniest name I could think of.
          > This became the moniker I applied to this taller than the others
          > entity. I wanted to make this being funny. No, not funny. I wanted to
          > make fun of this entity. And this was my way of doing so. So the
          > taller shortstuff is not "Fred." Only every time I am abducted, and
          > refer to 'it' as "Fred," he doesn't even crack a smile. But even in
          > my altered state, I feel this ... sort of ... superiority over Fred.
          > Makes me feel a bit better. Not to make fun of those who call on the
          > name of their god to chase the demons away, but when I call to my
          > Lord, He doesn't do anything. Perhaps this is all in my chart.
          >
          > Or maybe it's all a piece of undigested beef. An underdone potato.
          >
          > I recall one abductee who told me that she was made fun of (in a
          > manor of speaking) by the alien entity when she objected to their
          > taking her eggs and showing her children which were supposed to be
          > hers. She told me that the alien asked (the head alien much the same
          > as Fred), "Why do you keep pets?" As if to say, pets are taken by us
          > and kept. We give our pets love. In return, they give us love. And
          > peace. When I'm with my best little buddy Pepe, a French Bulldog, I
          > am at greater peace than in Church. (Sorry Lord, but the shoe fits
          > well, so I wear it)
          >
          > Another perceived abductee, a male, objected to the aliens taking his
          > sperm. He was told, in substance, "Why do you object? Do you not
          > waste and spill your seed?" Gee, talk about freedom of spirit and
          > independent decision making. Obviously these dudes never owned a
          > loving, giving doggie or felt the need to 'waste their own seed,'
          > assuming they have any. Had it been me, I'd have told them that
          > humans are free to make their own decisions when it comes to their
          > bodies. No one takes without giving. And these entities give nothing.
          > In fact, as I will show, they take much.
          >
          > Which brings us to how a lifetime of these experiences make a
          > lifetime of negativity and unhappiness. Not to mention ill-health.
          > Many perceived abductees, both male and female, are in poor health.
          > It's no wonder. Most of us suffer from some form of Post Traumatic
          > Stress Disorder. This is a real illness. Some years back, the medical
          > community decided that it was not real. We now know that PTSD is real
          > and affects millions of people who've experienced extreme stress.
          > War, terrorism and natural disaster will make you ill. Reduce your
          > immune system. Reduce one's ability to fight illness. The brain is a
          > powerful instrument. It can and does control the body in ways we do
          > not fully understand.
          >
          > People who suffer PTSD have auto immune system disorders. MS,
          > arthritis, headache, dependency on substances such as drugs or
          > alcohol. Many more. Women more than men suffer IBS (Irritable Bowel
          > Syndrome). This has been my bane for years, until a good man told me
          > what to do about it. Jeff Rense does not subscribe to anything coming
          > from dairy, but colostrum has changed my life. I no longer suffer
          > pain, spasms and the embarrassment of meteroism. Not to mention
          > constipation and it's converse.
          >
          > Believe me when I tell you that depression is rampant among us.
          >
          > Immediately following a most painful and bloody abduction, the first
          > of it's kind for me (and many others as well), I was on the brink of
          > a nervous breakdown, according to my physician of three decades. I
          > went to see my friend, Budd Hopkins and literally begged him to help
          > me. I need not have begged. He was there, with compassion and love,
          > with a caring I've not observed outside of my own family. After being
          > regressed that first time, and within the hour, I was a changed man.
          > I saw my doctor within 48 hours of that regression and he said to me
          > (verbatim, this I shall remember the rest of my life), "Jim, what the
          > hell happened to you? I was ready to begin aggressive treatment for
          > depression if not for a breakdown?"
          >
          > I told him that I'd been regressed by Budd Hopkins and that I never
          > felt this good. Not in my recent memory. It was like night and day.
          > No depression. Shock at having really (in my memory) experienced such
          > horror, but I was actually happy to have uncovered the memory. My
          > doctor was quite taken aback by my immediate progress, something he
          > would again witness later on but under even more bizarre
          > circumstances. This is the man who went on to spearhead a medical
          > study of perceived abductees against a control group of people who
          > had never experienced any such thing.
          >
          > The one problem this medical study experienced however was that the
          > control group had to be expanded by a very large number. You see,
          > those who laughed at even suspecting abduction by aliens, were found
          > to have been abductees. C'est la guierre.
          >
          > Now for the final revelation. For the first time in public, I present
          > a small excerpt from my physician's report on my condition on
          > admission to the Emergency Room of a hospital in Upstate NY. The
          > document is in the hands of Budd Hopkins and has been transmitted to
          > Jeff Rense. With the permission of my doctor and the medical group,
          > this is what I looked like in March of 2001, after a particularly
          > grueling abduction experience. Jeff Rense has, in his archives,
          > several radio shows which have tapes of both a medicated regression
          > (using advanced medications to retrieve truth) as well as the
          > regression tapes made by Budd Hopkins.
          >
          > Read this here, an exclusive to our best friend, Jeff Rense. Note
          > that certain names and places have been deleted in order to preserve
          > a sensible level of privacy for us all. Soon, an affidavit will be
          > submitted on this venue, which describes what a witness saw on the
          > same night, at the same time, I was apparently abducted. This brief
          > is in the hands of Budd Hopkins and more recently, Jeff Rense.
          >
          > =============================
          >
          > Case Study: James S. Mortellaro, Jr., Ph.D.
          >
          > James Mortellaro presented at (----) Hospital in March of 2001 by
          > ambulance to the Emergency Room.
          >
          > Mr. Mortellaro was unconscious, later determined to be in mild shock.
          >
          > Upon examination by the ER physician, patient was found to have bled
          > (profoundly) from the bladder through the penis. His clothing was
          > soaked with blood about the groin and upper thigh areas. There was
          > sensitivity in the lower left quadrant even though the patient was
          > unconscious. Patient was also found to have been bleeding from the
          > nose and tear ducts. There were obvious signs of surgery in the nose
          > above the septum, near the entrance to the sinuses.
          >
          > Patient regained consciousness within ten minutes after presentation.
          > His vitals were stable, BP 155/100, which was reduced after regaining
          > consciousness to 135/85 within ten minutes. There was no indication
          > of trauma to any portion of the body except for noted bleeding.
          >
          > Patient was able to identify himself, name, the date, the name of the
          > current president, etc., but was about five hours off on the time. He
          > thought the time was about 6 PM. It was close to midnight.
          >
          > Present were his wife, Trooper (---) from Troop (--) in (----), N.Y.,
          > Dr. (--------), his personal physician, various nursing personnel,
          > the ER physician, Dr. (-----) and others.
          >
          > When conscious, patient indicated feeling weak, disoriented and with
          > pain in the lower abdomen favoring patient's lower left quad. After
          > patient was made stable, CAT scans of the head, dorsal
          > and lumbar regions, along with CAT and MRI of the abdomen and
          > kidneys. All non intrusive
          > pictures were negative, with the exception of the bladder which
          > showed lesions in three areas favoring the left side.
          >
          > A cystostoscopy of the bladder was performed indicating contusions of
          > the lower left bladder area. A total of four such areas were found,
          > which was apparently the reason for bleeding. The wounds were odd in
          > that there appeared to be no apparent reason for their presence.
          > Again, there was no indication of causative external trauma.
          >
          > The blood found on the patient's clothing proved recent (within two
          > hours) profuse bleeding.
          >
          > Yet those areas were no longer bleeding (at the time) and should have
          > been. This was a very curious and impossible scenario.
          >
          > The CAT scans and MRI's confirmed recent (healed) nasal surgery which
          > the patient insisted he never had. As his personal physician, having
          > only recently given the patient a complete annual physical only days
          > before, I can testify to the fact that no such surgery had been done
          > at that Time.
          >
          > A total of two cystoscopy's were performed within 48 hours, showing
          > marked and nearly miraculous healing of the contusions in the
          > bladder. Another cystoscopy performed within ten days of
          > this 'incident,' indicated nearly complete healing. Very strange,
          > indeed. Very strange.
          >
          > Patient was discharged from hospital during (deleted), feeling fine,
          > with no apparent illness present.
          >
          > Commentary:
          >
          > We have never before seen such a bizarre case. I have been in
          > practice for more than 40 years. The ER physician commented, "I
          > haven't a clue!" No one has a clue. The State Police Trooper, who is
          > known by and knows Patient (who is a reserve police officer) and
          > Troop (-----) supervisors did a computer search as well as check with
          > three troop barracks in three counties to determine if there had been
          > an attempted car jacking or accident. There were none.
          >
          > This case is a first in our experience, both from the standpoint of
          > the rapid healing (which should be impossible) as well as the lack of
          > any indication of trauma which may have caused such bizarre injury.
          >
          >
          > Dr. ____ __________, MD
          >
          > 3/30/01
          >
          > ===========================
          >
          > To those who do not believe, even in the possibility, consider the
          > above. To those who refuse to believe, you have a problem worse than
          > mine. To those who believe, think about the possibility of being
          > skeptical. Always skeptical. It keeps the mind open to explanations
          > other than the alien abduction theory.
          >
          > To me, I cannot allow myself to believe otherwise. After each
          > regression, the memory is so real, that it must be part of my actual
          > experience. I cannot think of any other explanation. However, what
          > the heck do I know? There are more things in heaven and Earth ...
          > etc.
          > Love, peace and prayers,
          > Jim Mortellaro
          > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
          > --
          > If you go to the Jeff Rense archive site at:
          > http://www.soundwaves2000.com/rense/archives/2003/oct_index.asp
          > You can hear Budd and Jim replaying the hypnotic regression tape of
          > this abduction encounter. Jim is a reserve deputy and you can hear on
          > the tape where he tried to pull his service pistol during the
          > abduction and the aliens made him put it down.
          > Art Greenfield
          > http://antigray.tripod.com/
          > More information:
          ? http://www.booklocker.com/books/1417.html

          Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 09:36:13 -0800
          > From: Jack Sarfatti <Sarfatti@P...>
          > Subject: Re: U.S. Anti-Gravitic UFO Technology/Your Research
          >
          > >Since the latter two (2) deal w/ the touchy subject of alien
          > >abductions,
          > >what is your opinion of this phenomenon?
          >
          > I am open to that. Indeed, I may be an abductee myself. I am not sure
          > about that. >>>>>
          >
          > Hi Jack,
          > If you want I can contact my friend Dr. Jim Mortellaro who is close
          > friends with Budd Hopkins, and see about getting you hypnotically
          > regressed to retrieve any abduction memories.

          James Harder tried and failed.

          > What makes you think you may be an abductee?

          Read my book Destiny Matrix. It's a complex story.
          Also http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html
          Of course it all depends if my physics is really "The Right Stuff" or
          not.
          The recent discovery of "dark energy" ~ 1998 is extremely important in
          that regard,

          Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:46:28 -0800
          From: Jack Sarfatti <Sarfatti@...>
          Subject: Re: Re: U.S. Anti-Gravitic UFO Technology/Your Research/
          Sarfatti Abduction?


          On Monday, January 5, 2004, at 08:57 AM, antigray@... wrote:

          ><<<Message: 5
          ><<<Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 09:36:13 -0800
          >From: Jack Sarfatti <Sarfatti@...>
          >Subject: Re: U.S. Anti-Gravitic UFO Technology/Your Research
          >
          >>Since the latter two (2) deal w/ the touchy subject of alien
          >>abductions,
          >>what is your opinion of this phenomenon?
          >
          >I am open to that. Indeed, I may be an abductee myself. I am not sure
          >about that. >>>>>
          >
          >Hi Jack,
          >If you want I can contact my friend Dr. Jim Mortellaro who is close
          >friends with Budd Hopkins, and see about getting you hypnotically
          >regressed to retrieve any abduction memories.

          James Harder tried and failed.

          > What makes you think you may be an abductee?

          Read my book Destiny Matrix. It's a complex story.
          Also http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html
          Of course it all depends if my physics is really "The Right Stuff" or
          not.
          The recent discovery of "dark energy" ~ 1998 is extremely important in
          that regard,



          Hi Jack,
          I think we have a problem. I am very good at looking at the big
          picture. After checking out your Matrix account, and quite a few other
          things all day, I have tentatively come to a conclusion you may not
          like. Your childhood experiences where you were told to go out on your
          fire escape seemed like the lead-in to a typical abduction. You
          remember getting one phone call. I read today where someone
          interviewed your mother and she said she remembered you getting
          several of those strange phone calls over a three week period. You
          apparently don't remember being "taken" off the fire escape, and you
          may or may not have had missing time. Due to how the aliens are using
          you, there is a good chance you were only taken briefly, received an
          implant, and were quickly returned with all memories of the abduction
          erased. The aliens would not use you the way they use most abductees,
          as breeding stock to breed human/alien hybrids. They have a different
          program for humans with brilliant minds like yourself and those few
          hundred other children they chose. As the best and the brightest, your
          group would be destined to work in various fields where the aliens
          wanted you to be their eyes and ears. Some of this even coincides with
          your ideas of causes and effects being in the wrong sequence. Example:
          Aliens show up in 2004 and do a quick survey of what people are in key
          positions doing research and development on advanced weapons and
          propulsion systems. They back track them all to when they were
          impressionable kids 20 years ago in 1984. They have their computer
          call them on the phone and entice them to go outside with a fanciful
          story that they will be needed in 20 years and all they have to do is
          say "yes" and go outside. Saying yes and going outside makes it a lot
          easier to abduct you if you are in an urban area with a lot of
          witnesses. If you had said "no," they would have had to zap you
          unconscious and came down and get you themselves. When you went
          outside you were probably whisked straight up to their craft by their
          diamagnetic lifter with no fuss and muss. You may have been abducted a
          few more times over the next three weeks in order that they could scan
          and record your memories, so that they would have them on hand for
          future use if they needed to use them on you as a screen memory. There
          are several people I've heard of that went through something similar.
          The most notable one was Col. Phil Corso, who worked in the US Army
          Foreign Technology Division. His lifetime timeline was very important
          to the aliens for two reasons. He was working with items of technology
          recovered from the Roswell crash, and at one time the aliens had
          needed him to order the base radar at White Sands to be shut off
          because it was interfering with the navigation avionics on one of
          their small craft that had landed, and they could not leave. Col.
          Corso said that he thought because of his chance meeting with the
          aliens on that craft in the desert, that they had signaled another of
          their craft to go back in time to when he was 6 years old and abduct
          him off of his front porch. He would have then been implanted so that
          they could summon him to their future landing spot and get him to
          radio back to the base command post and order the base radar to be
          shut down, since he was the base commander. Here is where it gets
          hairy. The implants the aliens stick in your head behind you eye and
          ear pick up the nerve impulses of the optic nerve and auditory nerve,
          convert it to a transmittable format and transmit the signal to the
          aliens monitoring you. It allows them to see what you see and hear
          what you hear. I've done experiments with an abductee who had an
          implant that transmitted what he heard (or said, since you hear your
          own speech). We could pick up the transmissions of his implant on his
          telephone speaker microphone. If he would say a word, a fraction of a
          second later the speaker would pick up a brief burst of transmission
          from the implant. You could hear that different words sounded slightly
          different when they were transmitted by the implant. So, you and the
          other bright kids were "recruited" to be inadvertent spies on the
          inside of various advanced projects. The aliens are keeping an eye on
          us, your eye. They are not our friends, or our enemies. We are their
          property. This whole relationship is very basic. That's why I wrote my
          book, so we can change things for the better, to benefit them and us.
          But then I could be wrong about you. Mull it over and let me know what
          do you think?
          Art

          Hi Jack,
          > I think we have a problem. I am very good at looking at the big
          > picture. After checking out your Matrix account, and quite a few other
          > things all day, I have tentatively come to a conclusion you may not
          > like. Your childhood experiences where you were told to go out on your
          > fire escape seemed like the lead-in to a typical abduction.


          Yes, I know. I was with at least two other kids Norman and Neal Lagatta
          and I think also "Winki" (Al Brough) although I am not sure if Winki
          was there.

          > You remember getting one phone call. I read today where someone
          > interviewed your mother and she said she remembered you getting
          > several of those strange phone calls over a three week period.

          Correct

          > You apparently don't remember being "taken" off the fire escape, and
          > you may or may not have had missing time.

          Yes, that is possible.

          > Due to how the aliens are using you, there is a good chance you were
          > only taken briefly, received an implant, and were quickly returned
          > with all memories of the abduction erased. The aliens would not use
          > you the way they use most abductees, as breeding stock to breed
          > human/alien hybrids.

          My own theory is that I am being used, if this abduction scenario is
          true, I do not know if it is, for "technology transfer" from ET to
          humans. Or perhaps it is my over-active imagination? :-)


          > They have a different program for humans with brilliant minds like
          > yourself and those few hundred other children they chose. As the best
          > and the brightest, your group would be destined to work in various
          > fields where the aliens wanted you to be their eyes and ears.

          Exactly. That's my understanding of the "contact" and Walter Breen was
          part it. Either that, or it's a pretty uncanny sequence of coincidences
          over 50 years.

          > Some of this even coincides with your ideas of causes and effects
          > being in the wrong sequence. Example: Aliens show up in 2004 and do a
          > quick survey of what people are in key positions doing research and
          > development on advanced weapons and propulsion systems. They back
          > track them all to when they were impressionable kids 20 years ago in
          > 1984. They have their computer call them on the phone and entice them
          > to go outside with a fanciful story that they will be needed in 20
          > years and all they have to do is say "yes" and go outside. Saying yes
          > and going outside makes it a lot easier to abduct you if you are in an
          > urban area with a lot of witnesses. If you had said "no," they would
          > have had to zap you unconscious and came down and get you themselves.
          > When you went outside you were probably whisked straight up to their
          > craft by their diamagnetic lifter with no fuss and muss. You may have
          > been abducted a few more times over the next three weeks in order that
          > they could scan and record your memories, so that they would have them
          > on hand for future use if they needed to use them on you as a screen
          > memory. There are several people I've heard of that went through
          > something similar. The most notable one was Col. Phil Corso, who
          > worked in the US Army Foreign Technology Division. His lifetime
          > timeline was very important to the aliens for two reasons. He was
          > working with items of technology recovered from the Roswell crash, and
          > at one time the aliens had needed him to order the base radar at White
          > Sands to be shut off because it was interfering with the navigation
          > avionics on one of their small craft that had landed, and they could
          > not leave. Col. Corso said that he thought because of his chance
          > meeting with the aliens on that craft in the desert, that they had
          > signaled another of their craft to go back in time to when he was 6
          > years old and abduct him off of his front porch. He would have then
          > been implanted so that they could summon him to their future landing
          > spot and get him to radio back to the base command post and order the
          > base radar to be shut down, since he was the base commander. Here is
          > where it gets hairy. The implants the aliens stick in your head behind
          > you eye and ear pick up the nerve impulses of the optic nerve and
          > auditory nerve, convert it to a transmittable format and transmit the
          > signal to the aliens monitoring you. It allows them to see what you
          > see and hear what you hear. I've done experiments with an abductee who
          > had an implant that transmitted what he heard (or said, since you hear
          > your own speech). We could pick up the transmissions of his implant on
          > his telephone speaker microphone. If he would say a word, a fraction
          > of a second later the speaker would pick up a brief burst of
          > transmission from the implant. You could hear that different words
          > sounded slightly different when they were transmitted by the implant.
          > So, you and t! he other bright kids were "recruited" to be inadvertent
          > spies on the inside of various advanced projects. The aliens are
          > keeping an eye on us, your eye. They are not our friends, or our
          > enemies. We are their property. This whole relationship is very basic.
          > That's why I wrote my book, so we can change things for the better, to
          > benefit them and us.
          > But then I could be wrong about you. Mull it over and let me know what
          > do you think?
          > Art

          It is quite possible. I suppose Kit Green should do a brain scan on me
          some time?

          Wed Jan 7, 2004 2:40 pm
          Subject: Re: [Starfleet Command] Digest Number 861

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          I remember riding in a train crossing the Alps with a Canadian PhD
          candidate in theoretical physics. The train stopped, we weren't
          paying attention, and by the time we realized we needed to get off
          and got down the corridor with our bulky back packs, the train
          started moving. He suggested we jump, considering that if we did
          not, we would lose 1 day in our travel back to Paris.

          Well I jumped first and was badly injured with lacerations requiring
          minor stitches. He hesitated, but then jumped. Unfortunately the
          train had picked up speed and he was more severly injured with a
          broken collar bone and a severed ear.

          The point is this brillant guy, a physicist no doubt, had forgotten
          everything about basic momentum with his mind high in the sky.

          The nurses in Gap, France thought we were typical stupid Americans:-)

          So what is the point of the story? Simple. Life has a kind of
          magneticism where we are attracted to like people, or sometimes to
          opposites as the saying goes. Perhaps Jack it's all very normal down
          to earth "human physics". After all you are the first to admit that
          your approach is derived out of ordinary 1920's-1950's theory. UFO's
          does have a romanticism and it makes for good marketing, at least to
          a fringe population.

          I would not at all doubt that cold war intrigue was at play.

          Wed Jan 7, 2004 5:47 pm
          Subject: Re: [Starfleet Command] Digest Number 861

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          No there is IMHO no ordinary explanation for the uncanny string of
          events
          on my world line for past 50 years. Saul-Paul is aware of a lot of it
          from
          first-hand experiences. So are others.
          Wed Jan 7, 2004 5:48 pm
          Subject: Re: Jack an Abductee?/ Now What?

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          In a message dated 1/7/04 1:31:10 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
          SarfattiScienceSeminar@yahoogroups.com writes:
          Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 21:23:14 -0800
          From: Jack Sarfatti <Sarfatti@...>
          Subject: Re: Digest Number 861


          On Tuesday, January 6, 2004, at 03:25 PM, antigray@... wrote:

          >In a message dated 1/6/04 3:09:12 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
          >SarfattiScienceSeminar@yahoogroups.com writes:
          >
          >>Hi Jack,
          >>If you want I can contact my friend Dr. Jim Mortellaro who is close
          >>friends with Budd Hopkins, and see about getting you hypnotically
          >>regressed to retrieve any abduction memories.
          >
          >James Harder tried and failed.
          >
          >> What makes you think you may be an abductee?
          >
          >Read my book Destiny Matrix. It's a complex story.
          >Also http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html
          >Of course it all depends if my physics is really "The Right Stuff" or
          >not.
          >The recent discovery of "dark energy" ~ 1998 is extremely important
          >in
          >that regard,
          >
          >
          >
          >Hi Jack,
          >I think we have a problem. I am very good at looking at the big
          >picture. After checking out your Matrix account, and quite a few other
          >things all day, I have tentatively come to a conclusion you may not
          >like. Your childhood experiences where you were told to go out on your
          >fire escape seemed like the lead-in to a typical abduction.


          Yes, I know. I was with at least two other kids Norman and Neal Lagatta
          and I think also "Winki" (Al Brough) although I am not sure if Winki
          was there.

          >You remember getting one phone call. I read today where someone
          >interviewed your mother and she said she remembered you getting
          >several of those strange phone calls over a three week period.

          Correct

          >You apparently don't remember being "taken" off the fire escape, and
          >you may or may not have had missing time.

          Yes, that is possible.

          > Due to how the aliens are using you, there is a good chance you were
          >only taken briefly, received an implant, and were quickly returned
          >with all memories of the abduction erased. The aliens would not use
          >you the way they use most abductees, as breeding stock to breed
          >human/alien hybrids.

          My own theory is that I am being used, if this abduction scenario is
          true, I do not know if it is, for "technology transfer" from ET to
          humans. Or perhaps it is my over-active imagination? :-)

          Hi Jack,
          It is not a technology transfer. It is damage control to make sure we
          don't get to a point quantitatively and qualitatively where the
          technology recovered and back-engineered from their recovered craft
          will come back to haunt them.
          Stalin once said, "Quantity has a quality all its own." So, if our
          military ever got sufficient numbers of advanced space-going warcraft,
          we would present an imminent threat to the alien's continued
          operations. By using you and the other strategically placed bright
          kids, they could keep a close watch on our progress toward becoming
          dangerous to them.
          I take it from your open posting about things on the Internet that you
          are not presently employed where maintaining a security clearance is a
          big issue. Do you think you still have functioning implants in you? Do
          you have any strange effects on TVs, radios, electric-eye operated
          streetlights, or computers when you are near them? If so, that is
          usually caused by an implant. Can you or any of the other "chosen"
          bright kids close your eyes and see detailed blueprints of advanced
          technology equipment? If you can, you were given one of the aliens
          master control implants that allows you to access their tech.
          database. Tesla was inadvertently given one of those during an
          abduction. If you read his autobiography, it is veeeery obvious. It is at:
          http://www.olypen.com/harmon/tesla.htm

          If you or any of your chosen friends have one of those interface type
          implants, let me know. We can put it to very good use for some
          clandestine alien technology transfer. You could be "inventing" more
          stuff than Tesla.
          More info below.

          >They have a different program for humans with brilliant minds like
          >yourself and those few hundred other children they chose. As the best
          >and the brightest, your group would be destined to work in various
          >fields where the aliens wanted you to be their eyes and ears.

          Exactly. That's my understanding of the "contact" and Walter Breen was
          part it. Either that, or it's a pretty uncanny sequence of coincidences
          over 50 years.

          >Some of this even coincides with your ideas of causes and effects
          >being in the wrong sequence. Example: Aliens show up in 2004 and do a
          >quick survey of what people are in key positions doing research and
          >development on advanced weapons and propulsion systems. They back
          >track them all to when they were impressionable kids 20 years ago in
          >1984. They have their computer call them on the phone and entice them
          >to go outside with a fanciful story that they will be needed in 20
          >years and all they have to do is say "yes" and go outside. Saying yes
          >and going outside makes it a lot easier to abduct you if you are in an
          >urban area with a lot of witnesses. If you had said "no," they would
          >have had to zap you unconscious and came down and get you themselves.
          >When you went outside you were probably whisked straight up to their
          >craft by their diamagnetic lifter with no fuss and muss. You may have
          >been abducted a few more times over the next three weeks in order that
          >they could scan and record your memories, so that they would have them
          >on hand for future use if they needed to use them on you as a screen
          >memory. There are several people I've heard of that went through
          >something similar. The most notable one was Col. Phil Corso, who
          >worked in the US Army Foreign Technology Division. His lifetime
          >timeline was very important to the aliens for two reasons. He was
          >working with items of technology recovered from the Roswell crash, and
          >at one time the aliens had needed him to order the base radar at White
          >Sands to be shut off because it was interfering with the navigation
          >avionics on one of their small craft that had landed, and they could
          >not leave. Col. Corso said that he thought because of his chance
          >meeting with the aliens on that craft in the desert, that they had
          >signaled another of their craft to go back in time to when he was 6
          >years old and abduct him off of his front porch. He would have then
          >been implanted so that they could summon him to their future landing
          >spot and get him to radio back to the base command post and order the
          >base radar to be shut down, since he was the base commander. Here is
          >where it gets hairy. The implants the aliens stick in your head behind
          >you eye and ear pick up the nerve impulses of the optic nerve and
          >auditory nerve, convert it to a transmittable format and transmit the
          >signal to the aliens monitoring you. It allows them to see what you
          >see and hear what you hear. I've done experiments with an abductee who
          >had an implant that transmitted what he heard (or said, since you hear
          >your own speech). We could pick up the transmissions of his implant on
          >his telephone speaker microphone. If he would say a word, a fraction
          >of a second later the speaker would pick up a brief burst of
          >transmission from the implant. You could hear that different words
          >sounded slightly different when they were transmitted by the implant.
          >So, you and t! he other bright kids were "recruited" to be inadvertent
          >spies on the inside of various advanced projects. The aliens are
          >keeping an eye on us, your eye. They are not our friends, or our
          >enemies. We are their property. This whole relationship is very basic.
          >That's why I wrote my book, so we can change things for the better, to
          >benefit them and us.
          >But then I could be wrong about you. Mull it over and let me know what
          >do you think?
          >Art

          It is quite possible. I suppose Kit Green should do a brain scan on me
          some time?

          There are other simpler ways to check for implants. Here is a lot of
          info about implant's effects, and how to locate them, from a post of
          mine from the group I own.
          From: antigray@...
          Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 10:02 am
          Subject: Whitley Is A Slider
          Hi Group,
          Whitley Strieber was interviewed by Art Bell on his radio show a few
          nights
          ago. Whitley said that when he gets emotionally upset, his implant
          that is in
          his head behind his ear will get hot to the point of being painful and
          will
          cause street lights to go out as he drives or walks by them. If you are
          unfamiliar with this phenomena, it is quite common among abductees
          with alien
          implants in their bodies. These people are called "sliders." They
          cause "street light
          interference (SLI)." Their implants are putting out radio signals that
          are so
          strong that they will trigger the electric eyes on street lights at night,
          fooling the device into thinking it is daylight out and shutting off
          the light.
          These people also cause interference on electronic equipment. I've
          posted in
          detail about this before. Here is the post:
          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns/


          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns/post?protectID=24307111\4
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          29209169097203043229208098145211
          Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 6:53 pm
          Subject: Are You a SLIder?

          Hi Group,
          Are you a SLIder? SLI stands for Street Light Interference. It is
          caused by
          implants.
          Here is what I posted a while back about the phenomena at:
          http://www.amasci.com/weird/unusual/zap.html
          The syndrome most of the posters here talk about is shared by three
          abductees
          I know personally and have written about in my book. What these three have
          been experiencing is caused by radio frequency energy put out by the
          implants
          that were put into them by the aliens when they were abducted. To
          prove that
          this energy is coming from specific points in your body there is a cheap
          implant detector that can pinpoint exactly where they are in your
          body. Get a
          Sony Walkman or other small portable radio. Turn it on the AM band between
          stations. Pass it over your arms, legs, and head mainly. When it gets near
          the implants you will get a blast of static that will almost blow out the
          speakers, even if the volume is turned down. I have personally done
          this test
          on 2 of the abductees. I located one implant in one persons foot, and
          another
          in the right sinus cavity in the skull of the other person. Some abductees
          have as many as 6 implants in them. The aliens use the implants
          primarily to
          monitor your physical condition and as a locator transponder so they know
          where you are. There are 5 other things they use them for. It is sending
          telemetry continuously so that they can monitor your physical health and
          emotional state. If you would like to talk to one of the people I know who
          has this same syndrome, contact Brynne at the Yahoo Mars South Pole
          Returns
          Forum at:
          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns
          She recently was asked to be a founder of the club. If you have any
          questions
          ask me or her. You may be in for a shock. (No joke intended.) I
          respect this
          forum staff's intent to study this from a scientific standpoint and kick
          alien "theories" to the other site they listed, but the people I have
          met and
          examined and interviewed are all long term multiple abductees. If it
          quacks
          like a duck, it probably is a duck. An abductee I am in touch with in
          Arizona
          has provided me with X-rays showing her implant in her jaw. It has been
          malfunctioning and causing her all manner of problems. Soon she is
          scheduled
          to have it surgically removed by Dr. Roger Leir in California. I would
          love
          to report all the fun we have had experimenting with this particular
          implant
          but it would take far too long. It takes up nearly an entire chapter in my
          book. We were able to learn a lot about implants from the things we
          did. Some
          of the information we developed is not in the mainstream of
          information about
          implants. I have most of the information posted in forums we belong to
          but I
          don't want to post other forum addresses here since a lot of places don't
          like you doing that. They think you are trying to spam to get members
          elsewhere, etc. If you want additional info Email me and I'll Email it
          back
          to you. I hope this helps you all.
          Antigray

          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns/post?protectID=24307111\4
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          29209169097203043229208098145211
          Cocoa, FL USA - Friday, February 02, 2001 at 08:26:29 (PST)

          The following is from the other abductee I know:
          On reading the posts in here, i see that part of my story has been
          noted by
          Art Greenfield, "antigray"....he has included me in his book that is being
          printed at this time.......i too am electrical....man is it intense....i
          notice the streetlights too, but that may be coincidence...mainly I zap
          people at work....more so when i am stressed....I was handing a salt
          shaker
          to one of my coworkers last month and i zapped her with a charge that
          jumped
          about 2 inches!!!!!!.....I sit on a chair with rubber wheels and arc
          with my
          computer keyboard frequently... shorted one out last year..I have
          shorted out
          2 electric blankets at home as well...i had a rewritable CD on the
          shelf above
          my computer (in a locked box) which was erased (my head is near it when I
          play at the computer)...all this started about 10 years ago, after i
          moved into my house....it appeared to be haunted, but soon was
          apparent that it was another life
          form...yes i had many encounters...but the electrical phenomena began
          after I
          was hit in the face by a ball of electricity from my computer
          monitor....no I
          wasn't harmed, only my hand was numb where it exited my body.....just
          before that event, i noted a small Light inside the floppy drive back
          in the left
          rear corner....LOOK IN THERE GUYS, THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN.....
          appears that I have several "alien implants" in my face as well as other
          points in my body....we have been doing some experiments,....very
          fascinating....as for Dr. Roger Leir, we are in contact but he hasn't
          called
          me to come down for removal yet....and yes, someday I have a book to
          be written about all this............ thank you for the chance to
          speak......

          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns/post?protectID=12517623\4
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          windancer@theriver.c\
          Claypool, AZ USA - Sunday, February 25, 2001 at 10:10:41 (PST)

          Also check out:
          http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/sli.html
          http://www.geocities.com/eel_411/sli101/
          http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9804/21/electric.girl/

          http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa012400a.htm?once=true&

          Do streetlights suddenly go out when you pass beneath
          them? Do watches or credit cards stop working in
          your possession? Perhaps you are a SLIder.

          A reader writes:

          Around five years ago, I have noticed that at times
          while I am driving down the road at night a street light will go
          out as I am passing below it. It happens frequently
          and seems to be happening more.
          It has been giving me the creeps. If it happened only
          once or on very rare occasions, I don't think I would have
          given it a thought. However, it happens about once or
          twice a week. Could it be some electronic thing or could
          it be something less explainable?

          The phenomenon is known as street lamp interference,
          or SLI, and it possibly is a psychic event that is just
          beginning to be recognized and studied. Like most
          phenomena of this type, the evidence is almost exclusively
          anecdotal. I have received several stories like the
          one above from readers.

          Typically, a person who has this effect on
          streetlights - also known as a SLIder - finds that the light switches
          on or off when he or she walks or drives beneath it.
          Obviously, this could happen occasionally by chance with
          a faulty streetlight (you've probably noticed that
          it's happened to you once in a while), but SLIders claim that it
          happens to them on a regular basis. It doesn't happen
          every time with every streetlight, but it occurs often
          enough to make these people suspect that something
          unusual is going on.

          Very often, SLIders also report that they tend to
          have an odd effect on other electronic devices. In letters I've
          received, these people claim such effects as:
          Appliances such as lamps and TVs go on and off
          without being touched.
          Light bulbs constantly blow when the SLIder tries to
          turn them off or on.
          Volume levels change on TVs, radios, and CD players.
          Watches stop working.
          Children's electronic toys start by themselves when
          the SLIder is present.
          Credit cards and other magnetically encoded cards are
          damaged or erased when in their possession.
          What's the Cause?
          Any attempt to pinpoint a cause for SLI at this point
          would be mere speculation without a thorough scientific
          investigation. The problem with such investigations,
          as with many forms of psychic phenomena, is that they
          are very difficult to reproduce in a laboratory. They
          seem to happen spontaneously without the deliberate
          intention of the SLIder. In fact, the SLIder,
          according to some informal tests, are usually unable to create the
          effect on demand.

          A reasonable speculation for the effect, if it is a
          real one, might have something to do with the electronic
          impulses of the brain. All of our thoughts and
          movements are the result of electrical impulses that the brain
          generates. At present it is known that these
          measurable impulses only have an effect within an individual's
          body, but is it possible that they could have an
          effect outside the body - a kind of remote control?

          Current Results

          Ongoing research at the Princeton Engineering
          Anomalies Research (PEAR) lab is suggesting that the
          subconscious can indeed affect electronic devices.
          Subjects are able to influence the random generations of a
          computer far more than would occur merely by chance.
          This research - and research being conducted at other
          laboratories around the world - are beginning to
          reveal, in scientific terms, the reality of such psychic
          phenomena as ESP, telekinesis and soon, perhaps, SLI.

          Although the SLI effect is not a conscious one, some
          SLIders report that when it does occur, they often are in
          an extreme emotional state. A state of anger or
          stress is often cited as the "cause." SLIder Debbie Wolf, a
          British barmaid, told CNN, "When it happens is when
          I'm stressed about something. Not really maniacally
          stressed, just when I'm really mulching something
          over, really chewing something over in my head, and then it
          happens."

          Could it all be just coincidence, however? David
          Barlow, a graduate student of physics and astrophysics,
          suspects that the phenomenon might be attributed to
          people seeing patterns in "random noise." "It is unlikely
          that a light will turn itself on when you walk past
          it," he says, "so it is a shock when it happens. If this should
          happen a few times consecutively, then it appears
          some mechanism is at work."
          -------courtesy of http://www.worldofthestrange.com

          I cover this topic and a lot more in my new book. It is available online
          through Booklocker.com at:
          http://www.booklocker.com/books/1417.html

          If you have any questions please ask.
          Thanks,
          Art


          Hi Jack,
          > It is not a technology transfer. It is damage control to make sure we
          > don't get to a point quantitatively and qualitatively where the
          > technology recovered and back-engineered from their recovered craft
          > will come back to haunt them.

          In that case, they lost. The Cat is out of The Box and "It's alive,
          Igor! It's alive!" "Young Frankenstein" Mel Brooks

          > Stalin once said, "Quantity has a quality all its own." So, if our
          > military ever got sufficient numbers of advanced space-going warcraft,
          > we would present an imminent threat to the alien's continued
          > operations.

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        • drmichaelsalla
          Janet, it s hard to answer the question since I don t know exactly how the treaty was worded other than the general concept of there being an exchange of ET
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            Janet, it's hard to answer the question since I don't know exactly
            how the treaty was worded other than the general concept of there
            being an exchange of ET technology for permission for the ETs to
            conduct 'limited biological experiments' with abducted humans.

            Your question about how constitutional that is will be one that at
            some point the politicians and lawyers will argue as it becomes
            public knowledge. The extent to which the civil rights of abductees
            were violated as a result of the agreements/treaty would be a
            critical issue. This would raise constitutional issues, and also
            litigation in the civil court system. Nevertheless, a treaty was
            signed, executive orders given, and the treaty implemented. All this
            was done without ratification by Congress.

            That's still makes it all something that occurs under the
            constitutional framework even though if the Supreme Court ever dealt
            with the issues of the ET-Eisenhower administration treaty, they
            would rule it unconstitutional.

            For example, part of the 1949 CIA is unconstitutional since it
            creates a black budget which the American citizen cannot discover
            the true size of. This was actually adressed in a famous US Court of
            Appeals decision involving William Richardson (1971) which all but
            said that the CIA Act was unconstitutional. Similarly, the 1970's
            Church Committee also questioned the constitutionality of the black
            budget part CIA Act. Yet, the CIA Act is still going strong, and the
            black budget is still being generated as though it were
            constitutional despite the likelihood that it would be found to be
            unconstitional. In exactly the same way, the ET treaty has been
            implemented as though it is constitional, even though it would be
            likely be found to be unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.

            Anyway, the lawyers will have a field day when all this comes out
            into the open. That will be fun to see. ha ha.

            Cheers, Michael





            --- In prepare4contact@yahoogroups.com, "janet.sullins"
            <janet.sullins@p...> wrote:
            > How do you ratify a treaty that allows aliens to take humans and
            do what
            > they want with them??? and you're saying it is constitutional for
            them to do
            > this??? now that is foggy... I could see a treaty that didn't
            break our laws
            > falling under this but that isn't what is suppose to have happened.
            >
            >
            >
            > -----Original Message-----
            > From: antigray [mailto:antigray@c...]
            > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 12:49 AM
            > To: prepare4contact@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: [prepare4contact] (unknown)
            >
            >
            > <<< Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:14:42 -0000
            > From: "Dr Michael Salla" <exopolitics@y...>
            > Subject: Re:Manifest Show Up on Feb 20-22 / Treaties With Aliens
            >
            > Art, the President of the US has full authority to sign a treaty
            > without congressional input. The US Congress has to ratify it in
            > order for it become law in the US and to fully commit the US to
            it.
            > This creates a blurred legal middle ground. Signed but unratified
            > treaties between the US administration and extraterrestrial
            races.
            >
            > It is not unconstitutional to sign a treaty, but how the
            agreement
            > is executed is important as to what happens subsequently is
            > constitutional or not. Perhaps the intent is to present it for
            > ratification at some later time in which case a clever legal
            counsel
            > might say that due to the extraordinary nature of the situation,
            it
            > is constitutional for the executive branch to sign and
            > operationalise a treaty with the intention to present it later
            for
            > ratification. An executive order might be passed that all
            treaties
            > with extraterrestrial races can be presented at a later time for
            > ratification, but until then can be signed and fully executed.
            >
            > Something along these lines happened in 1954 and is why we have
            the
            > present problems we do with abductions, etc.
            >
            > In peace
            >
            > Michael S.>>>
            > ---------------------------------------------------------------
            > Hi Michael,
            > In doing research for my book I found that the alien program has
            > continued unabated throughout recorded history and a "treaty" of
            any
            > description would not be needed to "permit" the aliens to keep
            doing
            > abductions. In 1954 the US military had no means to stop it.
            Recently
            > I uncovered the fact that the aliens had done something
            unilaterally
            > that is almost unimaginable back in 1953. THAT messed us up.
            Here is
            > the story. For nearly 50 years, the government has been working
            on the
            > equivalent of a "Manhattan Project" to back-engineer acquired
            alien
            > propulsion and weapons systems from various crashed and
            electronically
            > disabled alien craft, and develop our own versions of their
            > technology. What you don't know is that we have been quite
            successful
            > and various advanced systems have been built and deployed for
            some
            > time now.
            > Col. Corso spoke the truth when he said that we had been forced
            into a
            > virtual state of surrender. The specific aliens causing the
            problem
            > never needed a treaty to make us allow abductions. They are done
            under
            > duress. There is another quote of Corso's that is very
            important. The
            > quote points out there is a need for all countries to stop
            quarreling
            > with each other and join together for mutual defense. Col. Corso
            knew
            > it would require all of our combined industrial resources to
            change
            > things. He said, "Whatever we were fighting over became minimally
            > important in the face of a threat from creatures who were so
            superior
            > to us in technology that we were their farm animals to be
            harvested as
            > they pleased.
            > The alien spacecraft were also aggressively buzzing our front-
            line
            > defenses in Eastern Europe, either looking for blind spots or
            > weaknesses, or---which is what I believed because I was there
            and saw
            > it with my own eyes---probing our radar to see how quickly we
            > responded. We'd see blips shoot across our screens that we
            couldn't
            > identify and suddenly they'd disappear. Then they'd reappear.
            Only
            > this time even closer to airfields or missile launchers. Once we
            > determined that we weren't being probed by Soviet or East German
            > aircraft, we sometimes decided not to respond to the threats.
            Many
            > times they'd just go away. But other times they would play cat
            and
            > mouse, edging ever closer until we had to respond. That's what
            they
            > were looking for, how quickly we could respond and pick them up
            on our
            > targeting radar or catch up to them with our interceptors.
            Whenever
            > we'd get just about there for an aerial sighting, they'd take
            off out
            > of the atmosphere at speeds over 7500 miles an hour. If we tried
            to
            > follow, they'd play us along until our fliers had to return.
            > Our only success in defending against them, back in the late
            > 1950's and early 1960's, occurred when we were able to get a firm
            > tracking radar lock. Then when we locked our targeting radars
            on, the
            > signals that missiles were supposed to follow to the target, it
            > somehow interfered with their navigational ability and vehicle's
            > flight became erratic. If we were especially fortunate and able
            to
            > boost the signal before hey broke away, we could actually bring
            them
            > down. Sometimes we actually got lucky enough to score a hit with
            a
            > missile before the UFO could take any evasive action, which an
            Army
            > defense battalion did with an antiaircraft missile near Ramstein,
            > Germany in May 1974. The spacecraft managed to crash land in a
            valley.
            > The craft was retrieved and flown to Nellis Air Force base in
            Nevada.
            > The Roswell crash was different. There was much speculation that
            it
            > was a combination of the desert lightning storm and our
            persistent
            > tracking radars at Alamogordo and the 509th that helped bring
            down the
            > alien vehicle over the New Mexico desert in 1947."
            > Col. Philip J. Corso
            > The antagonistic probing and reconnaissance of our defenses
            in
            > the 60's and 70's was a sign that the aliens were not honoring
            any
            > "treaty." They were trying to goad us into attacking them so
            that they
            > could evaluate our military force's strength and response
            > capabilities. Additionally, they would fly flights of 15 to 20
            UFOs in
            > "V" shaped battle formations out of Russian airspace into Western
            > Europe to cause us to initiate a nuclear response against the
            > Russians, making us think we were under attack from Russian
            nuclear
            > bombers. Other times, they would fly the same formations into
            Russia
            > from Western Europe to make the Russians think they were being
            > attacked by us. Every time the aliens did that, US and Soviet
            forces
            > would go on full war alert and launch all ready nuclear bombers
            to
            > assure a response in case their bases were targeted. Triggering
            World
            > War 3 like that would have eliminated the super powers, and
            generated
            > a lot of fresh meat for the Reptoids. We didn't fall for it. So
            the
            > Reptoids executed plan B. By various means, they knew that around
            > 1973, the new "Manhattan Project" was going to make a great
            > technological leap. The Reptoids did something then that sounds
            like
            > pure science fiction but isn't. They identified 400 of the most
            > brilliant and key personnel on the project. Then the aliens went
            back
            > in time 20 years to a point were all of those "Tesla Kids" were
            around
            > 13 years of age and abducted all of them. They then diverted ALL
            of
            > them into other fields of study and work, distracted them with
            drugs
            > or weird lifestyles, or had them travel the world to keep them
            away
            > from the project. When some of them finally drifted back into
            Star
            > Wars projects and bio-warfare research in the 80's and 90's, the
            > aliens killed them. I am not getting this information from
            someone's
            > website. I personally put it together from the actual people
            involved
            > in the Tesla Kid abductions. Before I get into the details, I
            want to
            > point out that advanced friendly beings would not go to this much
            > trouble to maintain military superiority if they could just
            negotiate,
            > act friendly, etc., or had our best interests at heart. Their
            goal is
            > to continue using us as a periodic food resource. That is why
            they
            > don't wipe us out. We are not their enemy. They do not want our
            real
            > estate. If they did they could take over any time they wanted. I
            want
            > everyone to realize that "preparing" to be better more spiritual
            > humans won't make the Reptoids change their ways and do good
            things
            > for us after they make friendly formal contact. They haven't
            done it
            > in the last 100,000 years and no matter how nice we are, it won't
            > diminish their need for meat every 50 years or so to restock
            their
            > passing fleet of migration mother ships. They are carnivores
            > hard-wired over millions of years to need meat. Being contented
            cows
            > on our part won't change their needs. We have to get them to
            agree to
            > change their program of harvesting us, and trade with us for
            meat from
            > cattle we raise and supply to them as needed. It will stop them
            from
            > instigating major wars here amongst us just to harvest meat.
            Right now
            > they are pushing the Muslim's buttons to start a worldwide
            religious
            > war. If we want to avoid war, we have to eliminate THE CAUSE.
            The new
            > Manhattan Project has been heavily compartmentalized and widely
            > subcontracted to prevent the aliens from derailing it again.
            > Are you familiar with the concept of "tactical surprise?" We
            have been
            > working on bettering the technology we acquired so we have an
            edge, if
            > it comes to that. I think with any luck that might bring the
            Reptoids
            > to the negotiating table because they'd think we had been
            assisted by
            > a more advanced race.
            > There is one more piece of background information to tell before
            you
            > read the following account of the Tesla Kid abductions,
            diversions,
            > and murders. The aliens also went back in time and abducted Col.
            Corso
            > when he was 6 years old right off his front porch in broad
            daylight,
            > so that they could control him too. They knew he would be
            handling the
            > advanced tecnology equipment recovered from the Roswell crash,
            and
            > managed to stall him from releasing most of it to American
            industries
            > to be developed, until his career was almost over. You will see
            in the
            > following account that Dr. Jack Sarfatti was one of the Tesla
            Kids to
            > be abducted, but now he is back on the job, working to harness
            Dark
            > Energy. Only 200 of the 400 original Tesla Kids are alive/or
            working
            > on parts of the new "Manhattan Project."
            > From: "antigray" <antigray@c...>
            > Date: Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:04 pm
            > Subject: Dr. Jack Sarfatti's Abduction Story
            > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns/message/5058
            > Hi Group,
            > I just had an interesting few days. I put it all together that
            the
            > brilliant physicist Dr. Jack Sarfatti is an abductee for certain,
            > along with 200 of his brilliant associates that he is in contact
            with
            > in key scientific fields, who all experienced the same strange
            sets of
            > circumstances at the same time when they were all children. It
            proves
            > the aliens are 5 jumps ahead of us. I hate it when that happens.
            LOL
            > Read the following posts and tell me what you think. Do you know
            any
            > scientists that had a similar experience?
            > Thanks.
            > Art
            > These are the posts:
            > Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 09:36:13 -0800
            > > From: Jack Sarfatti <Sarfatti@P...>
            > > Subject: Re: U.S. Anti-Gravitic UFO Technology/Your Research
            > >
            > > >Since the latter two (2) deal w/ the touchy subject of alien
            > > >abductions,
            > > >what is your opinion of this phenomenon?
            > >
            > > I am open to that. Indeed, I may be an abductee myself. I am
            not
            > sure about that. >>>>>
            > >
            > > Hi Jack,
            > > If you want I can contact my friend Dr. Jim Mortellaro who is
            close
            > > friends with Budd Hopkins, and see about getting you
            hypnotically
            > > regressed to retrieve any abduction memories.
            >
            > James Harder tried and failed.
            >
            > > What makes you think you may be an abductee?
            >
            > Read my book Destiny Matrix. It's a complex story.
            > Also http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html
            > Of course it all depends if my physics is really "The Right
            Stuff" or
            > not.
            > The recent discovery of "dark energy" ~ 1998 is extremely
            important in
            > that regard,
            >
            > Excerpts from Jack Sarfatti's book
            > THE DESTINY MATRIX
            > All rights reserved.
            > Copyright 1995
            >
            > It's 1952 in Flatbush. Gee! - mechanical relay switching
            circuits for
            > the Einiac computer - what a great shiny book I got from the big
            > library on Eastern Parkway. The telephone rings. I pick it up. I
            hear
            > curious clanking mechanical sounds like relays clicking. A
            distant
            > cold metallic voice speaking numbers gets louder.
            > "Who are you?" I ask.
            > "I am a conscious computer on board a spacecraft from [memory
            > failure]. We have identified you as one of four hundred young
            bright
            > receptive minds we wish to [memory failure]. You must give us
            your
            > decision now. If you say yes, you will begin to link up with the
            > others in twenty years." My adrenaline was rushing. I was scared
            but
            > thrilled (i.e., a quantum superposition of feelings). This was
            no joke
            > from my friends. I thought "NO!" in a silent scream that seemed
            to
            > echo down the corridors of time. I felt a tingle of excitement
            start
            > at the base of my spine ending at the base of my skull. I heard
            myself
            > say "Yes!". Then, I heard the metallic voice say:
            > "Good, go to your firescape. We will send a ship to pick you up
            in ten
            > minutes." I slammed down the phone. I imagined that a murderer
            would
            > come down the roof to the firescape to get me. But I knew it was
            > weirder than that. The monsters finally announced themselves. I
            ran
            > into the street faster than you can say "Who killed Jack
            Robinson." I
            > met my friend Winky 1 and a few other kids and told them what
            > happened. We went back up to my apartment and waited. Nothing
            ever
            > happened.
            >
            > > If you are not sure, only have uneasy feelings about it, etc.,
            let me
            > > know and I'll post some indications of abduction here that will
            > > clarify things for you. The following is an article by Dr.
            Mortellaro
            > > about an abduction experience of his where the physical damage
            done to
            > > him was documented by ER doctors.
            > >
            > > This was written by my friend Dr. Jim Mortellaro. It is really
            > > heart-wrenching,
            > > Art
            > >
            > > To Those Who Don't Believe Alien Abductions Are Occurring
            > > By Jim Mortellaro
            > > Jsmortell@a...
            > >
            > > It has come to the attention of this writer, that some folks
            don't
            > > believe in the Abduction Experience. I speak, of course, of
            Alien
            > > abductions. To wit, aliens abducting humans for purposes of
            > > (ostensibly) some sort of genetic experimentation; genetic,
            since the
            > > alien species seem to dwell on our reproductive organs. In the
            nearly
            > > 58 years I perceive I've been abducted, from the age of about
            two
            > > years, they've never looked at my heart, lungs or for that
            matter, my
            > > rear end. The latter being something laughable among those who
            would
            > > deride those who claim the experience.
            > >
            > > Of course, there is no way by which I or anyone else may prove
            that
            > > we've had such experiences. Whilst I've been regressed by the
            best of
            > > the abduction researchers, namely Budd Hopkins, and since other
            > > rather famous and well respected researchers have examined my
            case
            > > and determined that it certainly appears to be true, there are
            still
            > > those who deny us our truth. It is you to whom I address in
            this
            > > piece.
            > >
            > > To begin, what do you call 'reality?' When it comes to the
            abduction
            > > experience, I cannot define reality. In part, this is because
            in the
            > > experience, one seems to be in an altered state of
            consciousness. It
            > > is not a dream, but there are some similarities which make the
            > > experience dreamlike. Reality is what we perceive in this
            dimension.
            > > In the altered state of the abduction experience, there is
            another
            > > reality. The altered state of the abduction experience may not
            have
            > > reality in this dimension. Perhaps the other way around as
            well.
            > >
            > > When I have a dream, I can rarely recall the dream. I know
            that I've
            > > had a dream, but within moments of my waking, the details
            elude. Some
            > > dreams can be recalled in a bit more detail. Those would be
            recurring
            > > dreams. You've all had them. It's the day before the history
            exam and
            > > you've not opened the history book. Which book is the size of
            three
            > > Manhattan telephone directors on atop the other. Or the dream
            in
            > > which one cannot find where he parked his car, or how to get
            home.
            > > Even in these recurring dreams and in my case, I am unable to
            recall
            > > the detail. Merely the feeling and an occasional flash memory.
            > >
            > > Ah, but the abduction 'dream,' that's entirely different. I can
            > > recall nearly everything from the experience. Not merely the
            feeling
            > > but the events. Such events also live in my memory even before
            I've
            > > had the 'dream.' Besides which, the 'dream' is not really a
            dream. It
            > > is rather a recall of the events preceding the recall (which
            appears
            > > to be a vivid dream). Does that make sense to you? Good. Now to
            > > continue.
            > >
            > > At age two years I began having nightmares. I would awaken
            screaming.
            > > My parents, for a long time, believed I was having a nightmare.
            > > However I would always tell them, "It was not a nightmare,
            Mommy. It
            > > really happened!" Yet, whenever I was ill, with a childhood
            disease
            > > or fever from the flu or cold, I would have genuine
            nightmares. I'd
            > > wake up screaming. But I would _know_ that it was a bad dream
            and
            > > then agree with my parents' statement. "Yes, it was a bad
            dream,
            > > Mommy! A very bad dream."
            > >
            > > At age four, I refused to believe in Santa. It was, even to my
            young
            > > mind, impossible for a man to travel with flying reindeer, or
            for
            > > that matter, deliver a zillion gifts to a trillion homes. It
            would
            > > have to happen so fast, I imagined, that one could not see the
            blur.
            > > Besides, we had no fireplace.
            > >
            > > The dreams vs. my perceived reality usually confused my mother
            and
            > > dad. It never confused me. I recall seeing a blue light pierce
            the
            > > wall on the North side of my bedroom. The wall and window in
            that
            > > blue light would disappear. Three little creatures whom I
            referred to
            > > as "Little Doctors," would float through the beam of light and
            I
            > > would be compelled to go with them. Compelled is the wrong
            word. I
            > > had to go with them as I was floated out the same blue light,
            but
            > > when inside that blue light, it became a white light. Up I
            would go
            > > with two or three of these little doctors as I called them
            behind me
            > > and one leading. The one leading was and is always the same
            > > character. Taller than the others, this being was there with
            me from
            > > the beginning. He is still with me now. I now call him 'Fred.'
            > >
            > > Why "Fred?' Because I was reminded of an act on the old Ed
            Sullivan
            > > show, in which an older gentleman appeared with this floppy
            eared
            > > hound who was named, "Fred." He'd set Fred up on a stool, walk
            away
            > > about ten or so feet and holler, "Come on, Fred! Come on
            Fred." And
            > > Fred was supposed to jump off the stool and come to his master.
            > >
            > > Fred never did anything. No matter what his master said or
            did, Fred
            > > would just sit there and look happier than a clam. There is no
            > > connection except one. Fred was the funniest name I could
            think of.
            > > This became the moniker I applied to this taller than the
            others
            > > entity. I wanted to make this being funny. No, not funny. I
            wanted to
            > > make fun of this entity. And this was my way of doing so. So
            the
            > > taller shortstuff is not "Fred." Only every time I am
            abducted, and
            > > refer to 'it' as "Fred," he doesn't even crack a smile. But
            even in
            > > my altered state, I feel this ... sort of ... superiority over
            Fred.
            > > Makes me feel a bit better. Not to make fun of those who call
            on the
            > > name of their god to chase the demons away, but when I call to
            my
            > > Lord, He doesn't do anything. Perhaps this is all in my chart.
            > >
            > > Or maybe it's all a piece of undigested beef. An underdone
            potato.
            > >
            > > I recall one abductee who told me that she was made fun of (in
            a
            > > manor of speaking) by the alien entity when she objected to
            their
            > > taking her eggs and showing her children which were supposed
            to be
            > > hers. She told me that the alien asked (the head alien much
            the same
            > > as Fred), "Why do you keep pets?" As if to say, pets are taken
            by us
            > > and kept. We give our pets love. In return, they give us love.
            And
            > > peace. When I'm with my best little buddy Pepe, a French
            Bulldog, I
            > > am at greater peace than in Church. (Sorry Lord, but the shoe
            fits
            > > well, so I wear it)
            > >
            > > Another perceived abductee, a male, objected to the aliens
            taking his
            > > sperm. He was told, in substance, "Why do you object? Do you
            not
            > > waste and spill your seed?" Gee, talk about freedom of spirit
            and
            > > independent decision making. Obviously these dudes never owned
            a
            > > loving, giving doggie or felt the need to 'waste their own
            seed,'
            > > assuming they have any. Had it been me, I'd have told them that
            > > humans are free to make their own decisions when it comes to
            their
            > > bodies. No one takes without giving. And these entities give
            nothing.
            > > In fact, as I will show, they take much.
            > >
            > > Which brings us to how a lifetime of these experiences make a
            > > lifetime of negativity and unhappiness. Not to mention ill-
            health.
            > > Many perceived abductees, both male and female, are in poor
            health.
            > > It's no wonder. Most of us suffer from some form of Post
            Traumatic
            > > Stress Disorder. This is a real illness. Some years back, the
            medical
            > > community decided that it was not real. We now know that PTSD
            is real
            > > and affects millions of people who've experienced extreme
            stress.
            > > War, terrorism and natural disaster will make you ill. Reduce
            your
            > > immune system. Reduce one's ability to fight illness. The
            brain is a
            > > powerful instrument. It can and does control the body in ways
            we do
            > > not fully understand.
            > >
            > > People who suffer PTSD have auto immune system disorders. MS,
            > > arthritis, headache, dependency on substances such as drugs or
            > > alcohol. Many more. Women more than men suffer IBS (Irritable
            Bowel
            > > Syndrome). This has been my bane for years, until a good man
            told me
            > > what to do about it. Jeff Rense does not subscribe to anything
            coming
            > > from dairy, but colostrum has changed my life. I no longer
            suffer
            > > pain, spasms and the embarrassment of meteroism. Not to mention
            > > constipation and it's converse.
            > >
            > > Believe me when I tell you that depression is rampant among us.
            > >
            > > Immediately following a most painful and bloody abduction, the
            first
            > > of it's kind for me (and many others as well), I was on the
            brink of
            > > a nervous breakdown, according to my physician of three
            decades. I
            > > went to see my friend, Budd Hopkins and literally begged him
            to help
            > > me. I need not have begged. He was there, with compassion and
            love,
            > > with a caring I've not observed outside of my own family.
            After being
            > > regressed that first time, and within the hour, I was a
            changed man.
            > > I saw my doctor within 48 hours of that regression and he said
            to me
            > > (verbatim, this I shall remember the rest of my life), "Jim,
            what the
            > > hell happened to you? I was ready to begin aggressive
            treatment for
            > > depression if not for a breakdown?"
            > >
            > > I told him that I'd been regressed by Budd Hopkins and that I
            never
            > > felt this good. Not in my recent memory. It was like night and
            day.
            > > No depression. Shock at having really (in my memory)
            experienced such
            > > horror, but I was actually happy to have uncovered the memory.
            My
            > > doctor was quite taken aback by my immediate progress,
            something he
            > > would again witness later on but under even more bizarre
            > > circumstances. This is the man who went on to spearhead a
            medical
            > > study of perceived abductees against a control group of people
            who
            > > had never experienced any such thing.
            > >
            > > The one problem this medical study experienced however was
            that the
            > > control group had to be expanded by a very large number. You
            see,
            > > those who laughed at even suspecting abduction by aliens, were
            found
            > > to have been abductees. C'est la guierre.
            > >
            > > Now for the final revelation. For the first time in public, I
            present
            > > a small excerpt from my physician's report on my condition on
            > > admission to the Emergency Room of a hospital in Upstate NY.
            The
            > > document is in the hands of Budd Hopkins and has been
            transmitted to
            > > Jeff Rense. With the permission of my doctor and the medical
            group,
            > > this is what I looked like in March of 2001, after a
            particularly
            > > grueling abduction experience. Jeff Rense has, in his archives,
            > > several radio shows which have tapes of both a medicated
            regression
            > > (using advanced medications to retrieve truth) as well as the
            > > regression tapes made by Budd Hopkins.
            > >
            > > Read this here, an exclusive to our best friend, Jeff Rense.
            Note
            > > that certain names and places have been deleted in order to
            preserve
            > > a sensible level of privacy for us all. Soon, an affidavit
            will be
            > > submitted on this venue, which describes what a witness saw on
            the
            > > same night, at the same time, I was apparently abducted. This
            brief
            > > is in the hands of Budd Hopkins and more recently, Jeff Rense.
            > >
            > > =============================
            > >
            > > Case Study: James S. Mortellaro, Jr., Ph.D.
            > >
            > > James Mortellaro presented at (----) Hospital in March of 2001
            by
            > > ambulance to the Emergency Room.
            > >
            > > Mr. Mortellaro was unconscious, later determined to be in mild
            shock.
            > >
            > > Upon examination by the ER physician, patient was found to
            have bled
            > > (profoundly) from the bladder through the penis. His clothing
            was
            > > soaked with blood about the groin and upper thigh areas. There
            was
            > > sensitivity in the lower left quadrant even though the patient
            was
            > > unconscious. Patient was also found to have been bleeding from
            the
            > > nose and tear ducts. There were obvious signs of surgery in
            the nose
            > > above the septum, near the entrance to the sinuses.
            > >
            > > Patient regained consciousness within ten minutes after
            presentation.
            > > His vitals were stable, BP 155/100, which was reduced after
            regaining
            > > consciousness to 135/85 within ten minutes. There was no
            indication
            > > of trauma to any portion of the body except for noted bleeding.
            > >
            > > Patient was able to identify himself, name, the date, the name
            of the
            > > current president, etc., but was about five hours off on the
            time. He
            > > thought the time was about 6 PM. It was close to midnight.
            > >
            > > Present were his wife, Trooper (---) from Troop (--) in (----
            ), N.Y.,
            > > Dr. (--------), his personal physician, various nursing
            personnel,
            > > the ER physician, Dr. (-----) and others.
            > >
            > > When conscious, patient indicated feeling weak, disoriented
            and with
            > > pain in the lower abdomen favoring patient's lower left quad.
            After
            > > patient was made stable, CAT scans of the head, dorsal
            > > and lumbar regions, along with CAT and MRI of the abdomen and
            > > kidneys. All non intrusive
            > > pictures were negative, with the exception of the bladder which
            > > showed lesions in three areas favoring the left side.
            > >
            > > A cystostoscopy of the bladder was performed indicating
            contusions of
            > > the lower left bladder area. A total of four such areas were
            found,
            > > which was apparently the reason for bleeding. The wounds were
            odd in
            > > that there appeared to be no apparent reason for their
            presence.
            > > Again, there was no indication of causative external trauma.
            > >
            > > The blood found on the patient's clothing proved recent
            (within two
            > > hours) profuse bleeding.
            > >
            > > Yet those areas were no longer bleeding (at the time) and
            should have
            > > been. This was a very curious and impossible scenario.
            > >
            > > The CAT scans and MRI's confirmed recent (healed) nasal
            surgery which
            > > the patient insisted he never had. As his personal physician,
            having
            > > only recently given the patient a complete annual physical
            only days
            > > before, I can testify to the fact that no such surgery had
            been done
            > > at that Time.
            > >
            > > A total of two cystoscopy's were performed within 48 hours,
            showing
            > > marked and nearly miraculous healing of the contusions in the
            > > bladder. Another cystoscopy performed within ten days of
            > > this 'incident,' indicated nearly complete healing. Very
            strange,
            > > indeed. Very strange.
            > >
            > > Patient was discharged from hospital during (deleted), feeling
            fine,
            > > with no apparent illness present.
            > >
            > > Commentary:
            > >
            > > We have never before seen such a bizarre case. I have been in
            > > practice for more than 40 years. The ER physician commented, "I
            > > haven't a clue!" No one has a clue. The State Police Trooper,
            who is
            > > known by and knows Patient (who is a reserve police officer)
            and
            > > Troop (-----) supervisors did a computer search as well as
            check with
            > > three troop barracks in three counties to determine if there
            had been
            > > an attempted car jacking or accident. There were none.
            > >
            > > This case is a first in our experience, both from the
            standpoint of
            > > the rapid healing (which should be impossible) as well as the
            lack of
            > > any indication of trauma which may have caused such bizarre
            injury.
            > >
            > >
            > > Dr. ____ __________, MD
            > >
            > > 3/30/01
            > >
            > > ===========================
            > >
            > > To those who do not believe, even in the possibility, consider
            the
            > > above. To those who refuse to believe, you have a problem
            worse than
            > > mine. To those who believe, think about the possibility of
            being
            > > skeptical. Always skeptical. It keeps the mind open to
            explanations
            > > other than the alien abduction theory.
            > >
            > > To me, I cannot allow myself to believe otherwise. After each
            > > regression, the memory is so real, that it must be part of my
            actual
            > > experience. I cannot think of any other explanation. However,
            what
            > > the heck do I know? There are more things in heaven and
            Earth ...
            > > etc.
            > > Love, peace and prayers,
            > > Jim Mortellaro
            > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
            --------
            > > --
            > > If you go to the Jeff Rense archive site at:
            > > http://www.soundwaves2000.com/rense/archives/2003/oct_index.asp
            > > You can hear Budd and Jim replaying the hypnotic regression
            tape of
            > > this abduction encounter. Jim is a reserve deputy and you can
            hear on
            > > the tape where he tried to pull his service pistol during the
            > > abduction and the aliens made him put it down.
            > > Art Greenfield
            > > http://antigray.tripod.com/
            > > More information:
            > ? http://www.booklocker.com/books/1417.html
            >
            > Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 09:36:13 -0800
            > > From: Jack Sarfatti <Sarfatti@P...>
            > > Subject: Re: U.S. Anti-Gravitic UFO Technology/Your Research
            > >
            > > >Since the latter two (2) deal w/ the touchy subject of alien
            > > >abductions,
            > > >what is your opinion of this phenomenon?
            > >
            > > I am open to that. Indeed, I may be an abductee myself. I am
            not sure
            > > about that. >>>>>
            > >
            > > Hi Jack,
            > > If you want I can contact my friend Dr. Jim Mortellaro who is
            close
            > > friends with Budd Hopkins, and see about getting you
            hypnotically
            > > regressed to retrieve any abduction memories.
            >
            > James Harder tried and failed.
            >
            > > What makes you think you may be an abductee?
            >
            > Read my book Destiny Matrix. It's a complex story.
            > Also http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html
            > Of course it all depends if my physics is really "The Right
            Stuff" or
            > not.
            > The recent discovery of "dark energy" ~ 1998 is extremely
            important in
            > that regard,
            >
            > Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:46:28 -0800
            > From: Jack Sarfatti <Sarfatti@P...>
            > Subject: Re: Re: U.S. Anti-Gravitic UFO Technology/Your Research/
            > Sarfatti Abduction?
            >
            >
            > On Monday, January 5, 2004, at 08:57 AM, antigray@c... wrote:
            >
            > ><<<Message: 5
            > ><<<Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 09:36:13 -0800
            > >From: Jack Sarfatti <Sarfatti@P...>
            > >Subject: Re: U.S. Anti-Gravitic UFO Technology/Your Research
            > >
            > >>Since the latter two (2) deal w/ the touchy subject of alien
            > >>abductions,
            > >>what is your opinion of this phenomenon?
            > >
            > >I am open to that. Indeed, I may be an abductee myself. I am
            not sure
            > >about that. >>>>>
            > >
            > >Hi Jack,
            > >If you want I can contact my friend Dr. Jim Mortellaro who is
            close
            > >friends with Budd Hopkins, and see about getting you
            hypnotically
            > >regressed to retrieve any abduction memories.
            >
            > James Harder tried and failed.
            >
            > > What makes you think you may be an abductee?
            >
            > Read my book Destiny Matrix. It's a complex story.
            > Also http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html
            > Of course it all depends if my physics is really "The Right
            Stuff" or
            > not.
            > The recent discovery of "dark energy" ~ 1998 is extremely
            important in
            > that regard,
            >
            >
            >
            > Hi Jack,
            > I think we have a problem. I am very good at looking at the big
            > picture. After checking out your Matrix account, and quite a few
            other
            > things all day, I have tentatively come to a conclusion you may
            not
            > like. Your childhood experiences where you were told to go out
            on your
            > fire escape seemed like the lead-in to a typical abduction. You
            > remember getting one phone call. I read today where someone
            > interviewed your mother and she said she remembered you getting
            > several of those strange phone calls over a three week period.
            You
            > apparently don't remember being "taken" off the fire escape, and
            you
            > may or may not have had missing time. Due to how the aliens are
            using
            > you, there is a good chance you were only taken briefly,
            received an
            > implant, and were quickly returned with all memories of the
            abduction
            > erased. The aliens would not use you the way they use most
            abductees,
            > as breeding stock to breed human/alien hybrids. They have a
            different
            > program for humans with brilliant minds like yourself and those
            few
            > hundred other children they chose. As the best and the
            brightest, your
            > group would be destined to work in various fields where the
            aliens
            > wanted you to be their eyes and ears. Some of this even
            coincides with
            > your ideas of causes and effects being in the wrong sequence.
            Example:
            > Aliens show up in 2004 and do a quick survey of what people are
            in key
            > positions doing research and development on advanced weapons and
            > propulsion systems. They back track them all to when they were
            > impressionable kids 20 years ago in 1984. They have their
            computer
            > call them on the phone and entice them to go outside with a
            fanciful
            > story that they will be needed in 20 years and all they have to
            do is
            > say "yes" and go outside. Saying yes and going outside makes it
            a lot
            > easier to abduct you if you are in an urban area with a lot of
            > witnesses. If you had said "no," they would have had to zap you
            > unconscious and came down and get you themselves. When you went
            > outside you were probably whisked straight up to their craft by
            their
            > diamagnetic lifter with no fuss and muss. You may have been
            abducted a
            > few more times over the next three weeks in order that they
            could scan
            > and record your memories, so that they would have them on hand
            for
            > future use if they needed to use them on you as a screen memory.
            There
            > are several people I've heard of that went through something
            similar.
            > The most notable one was Col. Phil Corso, who worked in the US
            Army
            > Foreign Technology Division. His lifetime timeline was very
            important
            > to the aliens for two reasons. He was working with items of
            technology
            > recovered from the Roswell crash, and at one time the aliens had
            > needed him to order the base radar at White Sands to be shut off
            > because it was interfering with the navigation avionics on one of
            > their small craft that had landed, and they could not leave. Col.
            > Corso said that he thought because of his chance meeting with the
            > aliens on that craft in the desert, that they had signaled
            another of
            > their craft to go back in time to when he was 6 years old and
            abduct
            > him off of his front porch. He would have then been implanted so
            that
            > they could summon him to their future landing spot and get him to
            > radio back to the base command post and order the base radar to
            be
            > shut down, since he was the base commander. Here is where it gets
            > hairy. The implants the aliens stick in your head behind you eye
            and
            > ear pick up the nerve impulses of the optic nerve and auditory
            nerve,
            > convert it to a transmittable format and transmit the signal to
            the
            > aliens monitoring you. It allows them to see what you see and
            hear
            > what you hear. I've done experiments with an abductee who had an
            > implant that transmitted what he heard (or said, since you hear
            your
            > own speech). We could pick up the transmissions of his implant
            on his
            > telephone speaker microphone. If he would say a word, a fraction
            of a
            > second later the speaker would pick up a brief burst of
            transmission
            > from the implant. You could hear that different words sounded
            slightly
            > different when they were transmitted by the implant. So, you and
            the
            > other bright kids were "recruited" to be inadvertent spies on the
            > inside of various advanced projects. The aliens are keeping an
            eye on
            > us, your eye. They are not our friends, or our enemies. We are
            their
            > property. This whole relationship is very basic. That's why I
            wrote my
            > book, so we can change things for the better, to benefit them
            and us.
            > But then I could be wrong about you. Mull it over and let me
            know what
            > do you think?
            > Art
            >
            > Hi Jack,
            > > I think we have a problem. I am very good at looking at the big
            > > picture. After checking out your Matrix account, and quite a
            few other
            > > things all day, I have tentatively come to a conclusion you
            may not
            > > like. Your childhood experiences where you were told to go out
            on your
            > > fire escape seemed like the lead-in to a typical abduction.
            >
            >
            > Yes, I know. I was with at least two other kids Norman and Neal
            Lagatta
            > and I think also "Winki" (Al Brough) although I am not sure if
            Winki
            > was there.
            >
            > > You remember getting one phone call. I read today where someone
            > > interviewed your mother and she said she remembered you getting
            > > several of those strange phone calls over a three week period.
            >
            > Correct
            >
            > > You apparently don't remember being "taken" off the fire
            escape, and
            > > you may or may not have had missing time.
            >
            > Yes, that is possible.
            >
            > > Due to how the aliens are using you, there is a good chance
            you were
            > > only taken briefly, received an implant, and were quickly
            returned
            > > with all memories of the abduction erased. The aliens would
            not use
            > > you the way they use most abductees, as breeding stock to breed
            > > human/alien hybrids.
            >
            > My own theory is that I am being used, if this abduction
            scenario is
            > true, I do not know if it is, for "technology transfer" from ET
            to
            > humans. Or perhaps it is my over-active imagination? :-)
            >
            >
            > > They have a different program for humans with brilliant minds
            like
            > > yourself and those few hundred other children they chose. As
            the best
            > > and the brightest, your group would be destined to work in
            various
            > > fields where the aliens wanted you to be their eyes and ears.
            >
            > Exactly. That's my understanding of the "contact" and Walter
            Breen was
            > part it. Either that, or it's a pretty uncanny sequence of
            coincidences
            > over 50 years.
            >
            > > Some of this even coincides with your ideas of causes and
            effects
            > > being in the wrong sequence. Example: Aliens show up in 2004
            and do a
            > > quick survey of what people are in key positions doing
            research and
            > > development on advanced weapons and propulsion systems. They
            back
            > > track them all to when they were impressionable kids 20 years
            ago in
            > > 1984. They have their computer call them on the phone and
            entice them
            > > to go outside with a fanciful story that they will be needed
            in 20
            > > years and all they have to do is say "yes" and go outside.
            Saying yes
            > > and going outside makes it a lot easier to abduct you if you
            are in an
            > > urban area with a lot of witnesses. If you had said "no," they
            would
            > > have had to zap you unconscious and came down and get you
            themselves.
            > > When you went outside you were probably whisked straight up to
            their
            > > craft by their diamagnetic lifter with no fuss and muss. You
            may have
            > > been abducted a few more times over the next three weeks in
            order that
            > > they could scan and record your memories, so that they would
            have them
            > > on hand for future use if they needed to use them on you as a
            screen
            > > memory. There are several people I've heard of that went
            through
            > > something similar. The most notable one was Col. Phil Corso,
            who
            > > worked in the US Army Foreign Technology Division. His lifetime
            > > timeline was very important to the aliens for two reasons. He
            was
            > > working with items of technology recovered from the Roswell
            crash, and
            > > at one time the aliens had needed him to order the base radar
            at White
            > > Sands to be shut off because it was interfering with the
            navigation
            > > avionics on one of their small craft that had landed, and they
            could
            > > not leave. Col. Corso said that he thought because of his
            chance
            > > meeting with the aliens on that craft in the desert, that they
            had
            > > signaled another of their craft to go back in time to when he
            was 6
            > > years old and abduct him off of his front porch. He would have
            then
            > > been implanted so that they could summon him to their future
            landing
            > > spot and get him to radio back to the base command post and
            order the
            > > base radar to be shut down, since he was the base commander.
            Here is
            > > where it gets hairy. The implants the aliens stick in your
            head behind
            > > you eye and ear pick up the nerve impulses of the optic nerve
            and
            > > auditory nerve, convert it to a transmittable format and
            transmit the
            > > signal to the aliens monitoring you. It allows them to see
            what you
            > > see and hear what you hear. I've done experiments with an
            abductee who
            > > had an implant that transmitted what he heard (or said, since
            you hear
            > > your own speech). We could pick up the transmissions of his
            implant on
            > > his telephone speaker microphone. If he would say a word, a
            fraction
            > > of a second later the speaker would pick up a brief burst of
            > > transmission from the implant. You could hear that different
            words
            > > sounded slightly different when they were transmitted by the
            implant.
            > > So, you and t! he other bright kids were "recruited" to be
            inadvertent
            > > spies on the inside of various advanced projects. The aliens
            are
            > > keeping an eye on us, your eye. They are not our friends, or
            our
            > > enemies. We are their property. This whole relationship is
            very basic.
            > > That's why I wrote my book, so we can change things for the
            better, to
            > > benefit them and us.
            > > But then I could be wrong about you. Mull it over and let me
            know what
            > > do you think?
            > > Art
            >
            > It is quite possible. I suppose Kit Green should do a brain scan
            on me
            > some time?
            >
            > Wed Jan 7, 2004 2:40 pm
            > Subject: Re: [Starfleet Command] Digest Number 861
            >
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            > I remember riding in a train crossing the Alps with a Canadian
            PhD
            > candidate in theoretical physics. The train stopped, we weren't
            > paying attention, and by the time we realized we needed to get
            off
            > and got down the corridor with our bulky back packs, the train
            > started moving. He suggested we jump, considering that if we did
            > not, we would lose 1 day in our travel back to Paris.
            >
            > Well I jumped first and was badly injured with lacerations
            requiring
            > minor stitches. He hesitated, but then jumped. Unfortunately the
            > train had picked up speed and he was more severly injured with a
            > broken collar bone and a severed ear.
            >
            > The point is this brillant guy, a physicist no doubt, had
            forgotten
            > everything about basic momentum with his mind high in the sky.
            >
            > The nurses in Gap, France thought we were typical stupid
            Americans:-)
            >
            > So what is the point of the story? Simple. Life has a kind of
            > magneticism where we are attracted to like people, or sometimes
            to
            > opposites as the saying goes. Perhaps Jack it's all very normal
            down
            > to earth "human physics". After all you are the first to admit
            that
            > your approach is derived out of ordinary 1920's-1950's theory.
            UFO's
            > does have a romanticism and it makes for good marketing, at
            least to
            > a fringe population.
            >
            > I would not at all doubt that cold war intrigue was at play.
            >
            > Wed Jan 7, 2004 5:47 pm
            > Subject: Re: [Starfleet Command] Digest Number 861
            >
            > <http://us.yimg.com/a/ya/yahoo_sports/cb-bb-p1-lrec-backup.gif>
            > [Live College Audio]
            > No there is IMHO no ordinary explanation for the uncanny string
            of
            > events
            > on my world line for past 50 years. Saul-Paul is aware of a lot
            of it
            > from
            > first-hand experiences. So are others.
            > Wed Jan 7, 2004 5:48 pm
            > Subject: Re: Jack an Abductee?/ Now What?
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            > In a message dated 1/7/04 1:31:10 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
            > SarfattiScienceSeminar@yahoogroups.com writes:
            > Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 21:23:14 -0800
            > From: Jack Sarfatti <Sarfatti@P...>
            > Subject: Re: Digest Number 861
            >
            >
            > On Tuesday, January 6, 2004, at 03:25 PM, antigray@c... wrote:
            >
            > >In a message dated 1/6/04 3:09:12 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
            > >SarfattiScienceSeminar@yahoogroups.com writes:
            > >
            > >>Hi Jack,
            > >>If you want I can contact my friend Dr. Jim Mortellaro who is
            close
            > >>friends with Budd Hopkins, and see about getting you
            hypnotically
            > >>regressed to retrieve any abduction memories.
            > >
            > >James Harder tried and failed.
            > >
            > >> What makes you think you may be an abductee?
            > >
            > >Read my book Destiny Matrix. It's a complex story.
            > >Also http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html
            > >Of course it all depends if my physics is really "The Right
            Stuff" or
            > >not.
            > >The recent discovery of "dark energy" ~ 1998 is extremely
            important
            > >in
            > >that regard,
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >Hi Jack,
            > >I think we have a problem. I am very good at looking at the big
            > >picture. After checking out your Matrix account, and quite a
            few other
            > >things all day, I have tentatively come to a conclusion you may
            not
            > >like. Your childhood experiences where you were told to go out
            on your
            > >fire escape seemed like the lead-in to a typical abduction.
            >
            >
            > Yes, I know. I was with at least two other kids Norman and Neal
            Lagatta
            > and I think also "Winki" (Al Brough) although I am not sure if
            Winki
            > was there.
            >
            > >You remember getting one phone call. I read today where someone
            > >interviewed your mother and she said she remembered you getting
            > >several of those strange phone calls over a three week period.
            >
            > Correct
            >
            > >You apparently don't remember being "taken" off the fire
            escape, and
            > >you may or may not have had missing time.
            >
            > Yes, that is possible.
            >
            > > Due to how the aliens are using you, there is a good chance
            you were
            > >only taken briefly, received an implant, and were quickly
            returned
            > >with all memories of the abduction erased. The aliens would not
            use
            > >you the way they use most abductees, as breeding stock to breed
            > >human/alien hybrids.
            >
            > My own theory is that I am being used, if this abduction
            scenario is
            > true, I do not know if it is, for "technology transfer" from ET
            to
            > humans. Or perhaps it is my over-active imagination? :-)
            >
            > Hi Jack,
            > It is not a technology transfer. It is damage control to make
            sure we
            > don't get to a point quantitatively and qualitatively where the
            > technology recovered and back-engineered from their recovered
            craft
            > will come back to haunt them.
            > Stalin once said, "Quantity has a quality all its own." So, if
            our
            > military ever got sufficient numbers of advanced space-going
            warcraft,
            > we would present an imminent threat to the alien's continued
            > operations. By using you and the other strategically placed
            bright
            > kids, they could keep a close watch on our progress toward
            becoming
            > dangerous to them.
            > I take it from your open posting about things on the Internet
            that you
            > are not presently employed where maintaining a security
            clearance is a
            > big issue. Do you think you still have functioning implants in
            you? Do
            > you have any strange effects on TVs, radios, electric-eye
            operated
            > streetlights, or computers when you are near them? If so, that is
            > usually caused by an implant. Can you or any of the
            other "chosen"
            > bright kids close your eyes and see detailed blueprints of
            advanced
            > technology equipment? If you can, you were given one of the
            aliens
            > master control implants that allows you to access their tech.
            > database. Tesla was inadvertently given one of those during an
            > abduction. If you read his autobiography, it is veeeery obvious.
            It is at:
            > http://www.olypen.com/harmon/tesla.htm
            >
            > If you or any of your chosen friends have one of those interface
            type
            > implants, let me know. We can put it to very good use for some
            > clandestine alien technology transfer. You could be "inventing"
            more
            > stuff than Tesla.
            > More info below.
            >
            > >They have a different program for humans with brilliant minds
            like
            > >yourself and those few hundred other children they chose. As
            the best
            > >and the brightest, your group would be destined to work in
            various
            > >fields where the aliens wanted you to be their eyes and ears.
            >
            > Exactly. That's my understanding of the "contact" and Walter
            Breen was
            > part it. Either that, or it's a pretty uncanny sequence of
            coincidences
            > over 50 years.
            >
            > >Some of this even coincides with your ideas of causes and
            effects
            > >being in the wrong sequence. Example: Aliens show up in 2004
            and do a
            > >quick survey of what people are in key positions doing research
            and
            > >development on advanced weapons and propulsion systems. They
            back
            > >track them all to when they were impressionable kids 20 years
            ago in
            > >1984. They have their computer call them on the phone and
            entice them
            > >to go outside with a fanciful story that they will be needed in
            20
            > >years and all they have to do is say "yes" and go outside.
            Saying yes
            > >and going outside makes it a lot easier to abduct you if you
            are in an
            > >urban area with a lot of witnesses. If you had said "no," they
            would
            > >have had to zap you unconscious and came down and get you
            themselves.
            > >When you went outside you were probably whisked straight up to
            their
            > >craft by their diamagnetic lifter with no fuss and muss. You
            may have
            > >been abducted a few more times over the next three weeks in
            order that
            > >they could scan and record your memories, so that they would
            have them
            > >on hand for future use if they needed to use them on you as a
            screen
            > >memory. There are several people I've heard of that went through
            > >something similar. The most notable one was Col. Phil Corso, who
            > >worked in the US Army Foreign Technology Division. His lifetime
            > >timeline was very important to the aliens for two reasons. He
            was
            > >working with items of technology recovered from the Roswell
            crash, and
            > >at one time the aliens had needed him to order the base radar
            at White
            > >Sands to be shut off because it was interfering with the
            navigation
            > >avionics on one of their small craft that had landed, and they
            could
            > >not leave. Col. Corso said that he thought because of his chance
            > >meeting with the aliens on that craft in the desert, that they
            had
            > >signaled another of their craft to go back in time to when he
            was 6
            > >years old and abduct him off of his front porch. He would have
            then
            > >been implanted so that they could summon him to their future
            landing
            > >spot and get him to radio back to the base command post and
            order the
            > >base radar to be shut down, since he was the base commander.
            Here is
            > >where it gets hairy. The implants the aliens stick in your head
            behind
            > >you eye and ear pick up the nerve impulses of the optic nerve
            and
            > >auditory nerve, convert it to a transmittable format and
            transmit the
            > >signal to the aliens monitoring you. It allows them to see what
            you
            > >see and hear what you hear. I've done experiments with an
            abductee who
            > >had an implant that transmitted what he heard (or said, since
            you hear
            > >your own speech). We could pick up the transmissions of his
            implant on
            > >his telephone speaker microphone. If he would say a word, a
            fraction
            > >of a second later the speaker would pick up a brief burst of
            > >transmission from the implant. You could hear that different
            words
            > >sounded slightly different when they were transmitted by the
            implant.
            > >So, you and t! he other bright kids were "recruited" to be
            inadvertent
            > >spies on the inside of various advanced projects. The aliens are
            > >keeping an eye on us, your eye. They are not our friends, or our
            > >enemies. We are their property. This whole relationship is very
            basic.
            > >That's why I wrote my book, so we can change things for the
            better, to
            > >benefit them and us.
            > >But then I could be wrong about you. Mull it over and let me
            know what
            > >do you think?
            > >Art
            >
            > It is quite possible. I suppose Kit Green should do a brain scan
            on me
            > some time?
            >
            > There are other simpler ways to check for implants. Here is a
            lot of
            > info about implant's effects, and how to locate them, from a
            post of
            > mine from the group I own.
            > From: antigray@c...
            > Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 10:02 am
            > Subject: Whitley Is A Slider
            > Hi Group,
            > Whitley Strieber was interviewed by Art Bell on his radio show a
            few
            > nights
            > ago. Whitley said that when he gets emotionally upset, his
            implant
            > that is in
            > his head behind his ear will get hot to the point of being
            painful and
            > will
            > cause street lights to go out as he drives or walks by them. If
            you are
            > unfamiliar with this phenomena, it is quite common among
            abductees
            > with alien
            > implants in their bodies. These people are called "sliders." They
            > cause "street light
            > interference (SLI)." Their implants are putting out radio
            signals that
            > are so
            > strong that they will trigger the electric eyes on street lights
            at night,
            > fooling the device into thinking it is daylight out and shutting
            off
            > the light.
            > These people also cause interference on electronic equipment.
            I've
            > posted in
            > detail about this before. Here is the post:
            > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns/
            >
            >
            > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns/post?
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            > 0092\
            > 29209169097203043229208098145211
            > Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 6:53 pm
            > Subject: Are You a SLIder?
            >
            > Hi Group,
            > Are you a SLIder? SLI stands for Street Light Interference. It is
            > caused by
            > implants.
            > Here is what I posted a while back about the phenomena at:
            > http://www.amasci.com/weird/unusual/zap.html
            > The syndrome most of the posters here talk about is shared by
            three
            > abductees
            > I know personally and have written about in my book. What these
            three have
            > been experiencing is caused by radio frequency energy put out by
            the
            > implants
            > that were put into them by the aliens when they were abducted. To
            > prove that
            > this energy is coming from specific points in your body there is
            a cheap
            > implant detector that can pinpoint exactly where they are in your
            > body. Get a
            > Sony Walkman or other small portable radio. Turn it on the AM
            band between
            > stations. Pass it over your arms, legs, and head mainly. When it
            gets near
            > the implants you will get a blast of static that will almost
            blow out the
            > speakers, even if the volume is turned down. I have personally
            done
            > this test
            > on 2 of the abductees. I located one implant in one persons
            foot, and
            > another
            > in the right sinus cavity in the skull of the other person. Some
            abductees
            > have as many as 6 implants in them. The aliens use the implants
            > primarily to
            > monitor your physical condition and as a locator transponder so
            they know
            > where you are. There are 5 other things they use them for. It is
            sending
            > telemetry continuously so that they can monitor your physical
            health and
            > emotional state. If you would like to talk to one of the people
            I know who
            > has this same syndrome, contact Brynne at the Yahoo Mars South
            Pole
            > Returns
            > Forum at:
            > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns
            > She recently was asked to be a founder of the club. If you have
            any
            > questions
            > ask me or her. You may be in for a shock. (No joke intended.) I
            > respect this
            > forum staff's intent to study this from a scientific standpoint
            and kick
            > alien "theories" to the other site they listed, but the people I
            have
            > met and
            > examined and interviewed are all long term multiple abductees.
            If it
            > quacks
            > like a duck, it probably is a duck. An abductee I am in touch
            with in
            > Arizona
            > has provided me with X-rays showing her implant in her jaw. It
            has been
            > malfunctioning and causing her all manner of problems. Soon she
            is
            > scheduled
            > to have it surgically removed by Dr. Roger Leir in California. I
            would
            > love
            > to report all the fun we have had experimenting with this
            particular
            > implant
            > but it would take far too long. It takes up nearly an entire
            chapter in my
            > book. We were able to learn a lot about implants from the things
            we
            > did. Some
            > of the information we developed is not in the mainstream of
            > information about
            > implants. I have most of the information posted in forums we
            belong to
            > but I
            > don't want to post other forum addresses here since a lot of
            places don't
            > like you doing that. They think you are trying to spam to get
            members
            > elsewhere, etc. If you want additional info Email me and I'll
            Email it
            > back
            > to you. I hope this helps you all.
            > Antigray
            >
            > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns/post?
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            > 29209169097203043229208098145211
            > Cocoa, FL USA - Friday, February 02, 2001 at 08:26:29 (PST)
            >
            > The following is from the other abductee I know:
            > On reading the posts in here, i see that part of my story has
            been
            > noted by
            > Art Greenfield, "antigray"....he has included me in his book
            that is being
            > printed at this time.......i too am electrical....man is it
            intense....i
            > notice the streetlights too, but that may be
            coincidence...mainly I zap
            > people at work....more so when i am stressed....I was handing a
            salt
            > shaker
            > to one of my coworkers last month and i zapped her with a charge
            that
            > jumped
            > about 2 inches!!!!!!.....I sit on a chair with rubber wheels and
            arc
            > with my
            > computer keyboard frequently... shorted one out last year..I have
            > shorted out
            > 2 electric blankets at home as well...i had a rewritable CD on
            the
            > shelf above
            > my computer (in a locked box) which was erased (my head is near
            it when I
            > play at the computer)...all this started about 10 years ago,
            after i
            > moved into my house....it appeared to be haunted, but soon was
            > apparent that it was another life
            > form...yes i had many encounters...but the electrical phenomena
            began
            > after I
            > was hit in the face by a ball of electricity from my computer
            > monitor....no I
            > wasn't harmed, only my hand was numb where it exited my
            body.....just
            > before that event, i noted a small Light inside the floppy drive
            back
            > in the left
            > rear corner....LOOK IN THERE GUYS, THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN.....
            > appears that I have several "alien implants" in my face as well
            as other
            > points in my body....we have been doing some experiments,....very
            > fascinating....as for Dr. Roger Leir, we are in contact but he
            hasn't
            > called
            > me to come down for removal yet....and yes, someday I have a
            book to
            > be written about all this............ thank you for the chance to
            > speak......
            >
            > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns/post?
            protectID=12517623\4
            > 1501\
            > 58116025038109248249187177143238197061239152006048067
            >
            > windancer@t...\
            > Claypool, AZ USA - Sunday, February 25, 2001 at 10:10:41 (PST)
            >
            > Also check out:
            > http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/sli.html
            > http://www.geocities.com/eel_411/sli101/
            > http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9804/21/electric.girl/
            >
            > http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa012400a.htm?
            once=true&
            >
            > Do streetlights suddenly go out when you pass beneath
            > them? Do watches or credit cards stop working in
            > your possession? Perhaps you are a SLIder.
            >
            > A reader writes:
            >
            > Around five years ago, I have noticed that at times
            > while I am driving down the road at night a street light will go
            > out as I am passing below it. It happens frequently
            > and seems to be happening more.
            > I<br/><br/>(Message over 64 KB, truncated)
          • janet.sullins
            To sell out fellow Americans or loan them for the purposes of??? Psychological study??? Food??? Or to be used as catlle and bear children that are taken from
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              To sell out fellow Americans or loan them for the purposes of???
              Psychological study??? Food??? Or to be used as catlle and bear children
              that are taken from them. Even for purposes of evolution without their
              permission??? Where I believe that the ET's at least in my case did what
              they did without trying to intrude too much on my life, none the less they
              did. However I do not see this as their fault but rather those that gave
              them permission. They had no right to give that permission. That is the
              whole reason they don't want it out. Attorneys looking to make a name for
              themselves will have a field day. What will truely be interesting is to see
              what she who holds the scales of justice will have to say about this... They
              no doubt will claim they were making the best out of a bad situation as what
              could they do about it anyway...ha ha Or we agreed to it before hand... I
              for one will want to see the paper I signed and for what reasons it was
              signed... A circus...



              -----Original Message-----
              From: drmichaelsalla [mailto:msalla@...]
              Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 11:33 AM
              To: prepare4contact@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: [prepare4contact] Re: (unknown) - Treaty and US Constitution


              Janet, it's hard to answer the question since I don't know exactly
              how the treaty was worded other than the general concept of there
              being an exchange of ET technology for permission for the ETs to
              conduct 'limited biological experiments' with abducted humans.

              Your question about how constitutional that is will be one that at
              some point the politicians and lawyers will argue as it becomes
              public knowledge. The extent to which the civil rights of abductees
              were violated as a result of the agreements/treaty would be a
              critical issue. This would raise constitutional issues, and also
              litigation in the civil court system. Nevertheless, a treaty was
              signed, executive orders given, and the treaty implemented. All this
              was done without ratification by Congress.

              That's still makes it all something that occurs under the
              constitutional framework even though if the Supreme Court ever dealt
              with the issues of the ET-Eisenhower administration treaty, they
              would rule it unconstitutional.

              For example, part of the 1949 CIA is unconstitutional since it
              creates a black budget which the American citizen cannot discover
              the true size of. This was actually adressed in a famous US Court of
              Appeals decision involving William Richardson (1971) which all but
              said that the CIA Act was unconstitutional. Similarly, the 1970's
              Church Committee also questioned the constitutionality of the black
              budget part CIA Act. Yet, the CIA Act is still going strong, and the
              black budget is still being generated as though it were
              constitutional despite the likelihood that it would be found to be
              unconstitional. In exactly the same way, the ET treaty has been
              implemented as though it is constitional, even though it would be
              likely be found to be unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.

              Anyway, the lawyers will have a field day when all this comes out
              into the open. That will be fun to see. ha ha.

              Cheers, Michael





              --- In prepare4contact@yahoogroups.com, "janet.sullins"
              <janet.sullins@p...> wrote:
              > How do you ratify a treaty that allows aliens to take humans and
              do what
              > they want with them??? and you're saying it is constitutional for
              them to do
              > this??? now that is foggy... I could see a treaty that didn't
              break our laws
              > falling under this but that isn't what is suppose to have happened.
              >
              >
              >
              > -----Original Message-----
              > From: antigray [mailto:antigray@c...]
              > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 12:49 AM
              > To: prepare4contact@yahoogroups.com
              > Subject: [prepare4contact] (unknown)
              >
              >
              > <<< Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:14:42 -0000
              > From: "Dr Michael Salla" <exopolitics@y...>
              > Subject: Re:Manifest Show Up on Feb 20-22 / Treaties With Aliens
              >
              > Art, the President of the US has full authority to sign a treaty
              > without congressional input. The US Congress has to ratify it in
              > order for it become law in the US and to fully commit the US to
              it.
              > This creates a blurred legal middle ground. Signed but unratified
              > treaties between the US administration and extraterrestrial
              races.
              >
              > It is not unconstitutional to sign a treaty, but how the
              agreement
              > is executed is important as to what happens subsequently is
              > constitutional or not. Perhaps the intent is to present it for
              > ratification at some later time in which case a clever legal
              counsel
              > might say that due to the extraordinary nature of the situation,
              it
              > is constitutional for the executive branch to sign and
              > operationalise a treaty with the intention to present it later
              for
              > ratification. An executive order might be passed that all
              treaties
              > with extraterrestrial races can be presented at a later time for
              > ratification, but until then can be signed and fully executed.
              >
              > Something along these lines happened in 1954 and is why we have
              the
              > present problems we do with abductions, etc.
              >
              > In peace
              >
              > Michael S.>>>
              > ---------------------------------------------------------------
              > Hi Michael,
              > In doing research for my book I found that the alien program has
              > continued unabated throughout recorded history and a "treaty" of
              any
              > description would not be needed to "permit" the aliens to keep
              doing
              > abductions. In 1954 the US military had no means to stop it.
              Recently
              > I uncovered the fact that the aliens had done something
              unilaterally
              > that is almost unimaginable back in 1953. THAT messed us up.
              Here is
              > the story. For nearly 50 years, the government has been working
              on the
              > equivalent of a "Manhattan Project" to back-engineer acquired
              alien
              > propulsion and weapons systems from various crashed and
              electronically
              > disabled alien craft, and develop our own versions of their
              > technology. What you don't know is that we have been quite
              successful
              > and various advanced systems have been built and deployed for
              some
              > time now.
              > Col. Corso spoke the truth when he said that we had been forced
              into a
              > virtual state of surrender. The specific aliens causing the
              problem
              > never needed a treaty to make us allow abductions. They are done
              under
              > duress. There is another quote of Corso's that is very
              important. The
              > quote points out there is a need for all countries to stop
              quarreling
              > with each other and join together for mutual defense. Col. Corso
              knew
              > it would require all of our combined industrial resources to
              change
              > things. He said, "Whatever we were fighting over became minimally
              > important in the face of a threat from creatures who were so
              superior
              > to us in technology that we were their farm animals to be
              harvested as
              > they pleased.
              > The alien spacecraft were also aggressively buzzing our front-
              line
              > defenses in Eastern Europe, either looking for blind spots or
              > weaknesses, or---which is what I believed because I was there
              and saw
              > it with my own eyes---probing our radar to see how quickly we
              > responded. We'd see blips shoot across our screens that we
              couldn't
              > identify and suddenly they'd disappear. Then they'd reappear.
              Only
              > this time even closer to airfields or missile launchers. Once we
              > determined that we weren't being probed by Soviet or East German
              > aircraft, we sometimes decided not to respond to the threats.
              Many
              > times they'd just go away. But other times they would play cat
              and
              > mouse, edging ever closer until we had to respond. That's what
              they
              > were looking for, how quickly we could respond and pick them up
              on our
              > targeting radar or catch up to them with our interceptors.
              Whenever
              > we'd get just about there for an aerial sighting, they'd take
              off out
              > of the atmosphere at speeds over 7500 miles an hour. If we tried
              to
              > follow, they'd play us along until our fliers had to return.
              > Our only success in defending against them, back in the late
              > 1950's and early 1960's, occurred when we were able to get a firm
              > tracking radar lock. Then when we locked our targeting radars
              on, the
              > signals that missiles were supposed to follow to the target, it
              > somehow interfered with their navigational ability and vehicle's
              > flight became erratic. If we were especially fortunate and able
              to
              > boost the signal before hey broke away, we could actually bring
              them
              > down. Sometimes we actually got lucky enough to score a hit with
              a
              > missile before the UFO could take any evasive action, which an
              Army
              > defense battalion did with an antiaircraft missile near Ramstein,
              > Germany in May 1974. The spacecraft managed to crash land in a
              valley.
              > The craft was retrieved and flown to Nellis Air Force base in
              Nevada.
              > The Roswell crash was different. There was much speculation that
              it
              > was a combination of the desert lightning storm and our
              persistent
              > tracking radars at Alamogordo and the 509th that helped bring
              down the
              > alien vehicle over the New Mexico desert in 1947."
              > Col. Philip J. Corso
              > The antagonistic probing and reconnaissance of our defenses
              in
              > the 60's and 70's was a sign that the aliens were not honoring
              any
              > "treaty." They were trying to goad us into attacking them so
              that they
              > could evaluate our military force's strength and response
              > capabilities. Additionally, they would fly flights of 15 to 20
              UFOs in
              > "V" shaped battle formations out of Russian airspace into Western
              > Europe to cause us to initiate a nuclear response against the
              > Russians, making us think we were under attack from Russian
              nuclear
              > bombers. Other times, they would fly the same formations into
              Russia
              > from Western Europe to make the Russians think they were being
              > attacked by us. Every time the aliens did that, US and Soviet
              forces
              > would go on full war alert and launch all ready nuclear bombers
              to
              > assure a response in case their bases were targeted. Triggering
              World
              > War 3 like that would have eliminated the super powers, and
              generated
              > a lot of fresh meat for the Reptoids. We didn't fall for it. So
              the
              > Reptoids executed plan B. By various means, they knew that around
              > 1973, the new "Manhattan Project" was going to make a great
              > technological leap. The Reptoids did something then that sounds
              like
              > pure science fiction but isn't. They identified 400 of the most
              > brilliant and key personnel on the project. Then the aliens went
              back
              > in time 20 years to a point were all of those "Tesla Kids" were
              around
              > 13 years of age and abducted all of them. They then diverted ALL
              of
              > them into other fields of study and work, distracted them with
              drugs
              > or weird lifestyles, or had them travel the world to keep them
              away
              > from the project. When some of them finally drifted back into
              Star
              > Wars projects and bio-warfare research in the 80's and 90's, the
              > aliens killed them. I am not getting this information from
              someone's
              > website. I personally put it together from the actual people
              involved
              > in the Tesla Kid abductions. Before I get into the details, I
              want to
              > point out that advanced friendly beings would not go to this much
              > trouble to maintain military superiority if they could just
              negotiate,
              > act friendly, etc., or had our best interests at heart. Their
              goal is
              > to continue using us as a periodic food resource. That is why
              they
              > don't wipe us out. We are not their enemy. They do not want our
              real
              > estate. If they did they could take over any time they wanted. I
              want
              > everyone to realize that "preparing" to be better more spiritual
              > humans won't make the Reptoids change their ways and do good
              things
              > for us after they make friendly formal contact. They haven't
              done it
              > in the last 100,000 years and no matter how nice we are, it won't
              > diminish their need for meat every 50 years or so to restock
              their
              > passing fleet of migration mother ships. They are carnivores
              > hard-wired over millions of years to need meat. Being contented
              cows
              > on our part won't change their needs. We have to get them to
              agree to
              > change their program of harvesting us, and trade with us for
              meat from
              > cattle we raise and supply to them as needed. It will stop them
              from
              > instigating major wars here amongst us just to harvest meat.
              Right now
              > they are pushing the Muslim's buttons to start a worldwide
              religious
              > war. If we want to avoid war, we have to eliminate THE CAUSE.
              The new
              > Manhattan Project has been heavily compartmentalized and widely
              > subcontracted to prevent the aliens from derailing it again.
              > Are you familiar with the concept of "tactical surprise?" We
              have been
              > working on bettering the technology we acquired so we have an
              edge, if
              > it comes to that. I think with any luck that might bring the
              Reptoids
              > to the negotiating table because they'd think we had been
              assisted by
              > a more advanced race.
              > There is one more piece of background information to tell before
              you
              > read the following account of the Tesla Kid abductions,
              diversions,
              > and murders. The aliens also went back in time and abducted Col.
              Corso
              > when he was 6 years old right off his front porch in broad
              daylight,
              > so that they could control him too. They knew he would be
              handling the
              > advanced tecnology equipment recovered from the Roswell crash,
              and
              > managed to stall him from releasing most of it to American
              industries
              > to be developed, until his career was almost over. You will see
              in the
              > following account that Dr. Jack Sarfatti was one of the Tesla
              Kids to
              > be abducted, but now he is back on the job, working to harness
              Dark
              > Energy. Only 200 of the 400 original Tesla Kids are alive/or
              working
              > on parts of the new "Manhattan Project."
              > From: "antigray" <antigray@c...>
              > Date: Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:04 pm
              > Subject: Dr. Jack Sarfatti's Abduction Story
              > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns/message/5058
              > Hi Group,
              > I just had an interesting few days. I put it all together that
              the
              > brilliant physicist Dr. Jack Sarfatti is an abductee for certain,
              > along with 200 of his brilliant associates that he is in contact
              with
              > in key scientific fields, who all experienced the same strange
              sets of
              > circumstances at the same time when they were all children. It
              proves
              > the aliens are 5 jumps ahead of us. I hate it when that happens.
              LOL
              > Read the following posts and tell me what you think. Do you know
              any
              > scientists that had a similar experience?
              > Thanks.
              > Art
              > These are the posts:
              > Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 09:36:13 -0800
              > > From: Jack Sarfatti <Sarfatti@P...>
              > > Subject: Re: U.S. Anti-Gravitic UFO Technology/Your Research
              > >
              > > >Since the latter two (2) deal w/ the touchy subject of alien
              > > >abductions,
              > > >what is your opinion of this phenomenon?
              > >
              > > I am open to that. Indeed, I may be an abductee myself. I am
              not
              > sure about that. >>>>>
              > >
              > > Hi Jack,
              > > If you want I can contact my friend Dr. Jim Mortellaro who is
              close
              > > friends with Budd Hopkins, and see about getting you
              hypnotically
              > > regressed to retrieve any abduction memories.
              >
              > James Harder tried and failed.
              >
              > > What makes you think you may be an abductee?
              >
              > Read my book Destiny Matrix. It's a complex story.
              > Also http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html
              > Of course it all depends if my physics is really "The Right
              Stuff" or
              > not.
              > The recent discovery of "dark energy" ~ 1998 is extremely
              important in
              > that regard,
              >
              > Excerpts from Jack Sarfatti's book
              > THE DESTINY MATRIX
              > All rights reserved.
              > Copyright 1995
              >
              > It's 1952 in Flatbush. Gee! - mechanical relay switching
              circuits for
              > the Einiac computer - what a great shiny book I got from the big
              > library on Eastern Parkway. The telephone rings. I pick it up. I
              hear
              > curious clanking mechanical sounds like relays clicking. A
              distant
              > cold metallic voice speaking numbers gets louder.
              > "Who are you?" I ask.
              > "I am a conscious computer on board a spacecraft from [memory
              > failure]. We have identified you as one of four hundred young
              bright
              > receptive minds we wish to [memory failure]. You must give us
              your
              > decision now. If you say yes, you will begin to link up with the
              > others in twenty years." My adrenaline was rushing. I was scared
              but
              > thrilled (i.e., a quantum superposition of feelings). This was
              no joke
              > from my friends. I thought "NO!" in a silent scream that seemed
              to
              > echo down the corridors of time. I felt a tingle of excitement
              start
              > at the base of my spine ending at the base of my skull. I heard
              myself
              > say "Yes!". Then, I heard the metallic voice say:
              > "Good, go to your firescape. We will send a ship to pick you up
              in ten
              > minutes." I slammed down the phone. I imagined that a murderer
              would
              > come down the roof to the firescape to get me. But I knew it was
              > weirder than that. The monsters finally announced themselves. I
              ran
              > into the street faster than you can say "Who killed Jack
              Robinson." I
              > met my friend Winky 1 and a few other kids and told them what
              > happened. We went back up to my apartment and waited. Nothing
              ever
              > happened.
              >
              > > If you are not sure, only have uneasy feelings about it, etc.,
              let me
              > > know and I'll post some indications of abduction here that will
              > > clarify things for you. The following is an article by Dr.
              Mortellaro
              > > about an abduction experience of his where the physical damage
              done to
              > > him was documented by ER doctors.
              > >
              > > This was written by my friend Dr. Jim Mortellaro. It is really
              > > heart-wrenching,
              > > Art
              > >
              > > To Those Who Don't Believe Alien Abductions Are Occurring
              > > By Jim Mortellaro
              > > Jsmortell@a...
              > >
              > > It has come to the attention of this writer, that some folks
              don't
              > > believe in the Abduction Experience. I speak, of course, of
              Alien
              > > abductions. To wit, aliens abducting humans for purposes of
              > > (ostensibly) some sort of genetic experimentation; genetic,
              since the
              > > alien species seem to dwell on our reproductive organs. In the
              nearly
              > > 58 years I perceive I've been abducted, from the age of about
              two
              > > years, they've never looked at my heart, lungs or for that
              matter, my
              > > rear end. The latter being something laughable among those who
              would
              > > deride those who claim the experience.
              > >
              > > Of course, there is no way by which I or anyone else may prove
              that
              > > we've had such experiences. Whilst I've been regressed by the
              best of
              > > the abduction researchers, namely Budd Hopkins, and since other
              > > rather famous and well respected researchers have examined my
              case
              > > and determined that it certainly appears to be true, there are
              still
              > > those who deny us our truth. It is you to whom I address in
              this
              > > piece.
              > >
              > > To begin, what do you call 'reality?' When it comes to the
              abduction
              > > experience, I cannot define reality. In part, this is because
              in the
              > > experience, one seems to be in an altered state of
              consciousness. It
              > > is not a dream, but there are some similarities which make the
              > > experience dreamlike. Reality is what we perceive in this
              dimension.
              > > In the altered state of the abduction experience, there is
              another
              > > reality. The altered state of the abduction experience may not
              have
              > > reality in this dimension. Perhaps the other way around as
              well.
              > >
              > > When I have a dream, I can rarely recall the dream. I know
              that I've
              > > had a dream, but within moments of my waking, the details
              elude. Some
              > > dreams can be recalled in a bit more detail. Those would be
              recurring
              > > dreams. You've all had them. It's the day before the history
              exam and
              > > you've not opened the history book. Which book is the size of
              three
              > > Manhattan telephone directors on atop the other. Or the dream
              in
              > > which one cannot find where he parked his car, or how to get
              home.
              > > Even in these recurring dreams and in my case, I am unable to
              recall
              > > the detail. Merely the feeling and an occasional flash memory.
              > >
              > > Ah, but the abduction 'dream,' that's entirely different. I can
              > > recall nearly everything from the experience. Not merely the
              feeling
              > > but the events. Such events also live in my memory even before
              I've
              > > had the 'dream.' Besides which, the 'dream' is not really a
              dream. It
              > > is rather a recall of the events preceding the recall (which
              appears
              > > to be a vivid dream). Does that make sense to you? Good. Now to
              > > continue.
              > >
              > > At age two years I began having nightmares. I would awaken
              screaming.
              > > My parents, for a long time, believed I was having a nightmare.
              > > However I would always tell them, "It was not a nightmare,
              Mommy. It
              > > really happened!" Yet, whenever I was ill, with a childhood
              disease
              > > or fever from the flu or cold, I would have genuine
              nightmares. I'd
              > > wake up screaming. But I would _know_ that it was a bad dream
              and
              > > then agree with my parents' statement. "Yes, it was a bad
              dream,
              > > Mommy! A very bad dream."
              > >
              > > At age four, I refused to believe in Santa. It was, even to my
              young
              > > mind, impossible for a man to travel with flying reindeer, or
              for
              > > that matter, deliver a zillion gifts to a trillion homes. It
              would
              > > have to happen so fast, I imagined, that one could not see the
              blur.
              > > Besides, we had no fireplace.
              > >
              > > The dreams vs. my perceived reality usually confused my mother
              and
              > > dad. It never confused me. I recall seeing a blue light pierce
              the
              > > wall on the North side of my bedroom. The wall and window in
              that
              > > blue light would disappear. Three little creatures whom I
              referred to
              > > as "Little Doctors," would float through the beam of light and
              I
              > > would be compelled to go with them. Compelled is the wrong
              word. I
              > > had to go with them as I was floated out the same blue light,
              but
              > > when inside that blue light, it became a white light. Up I
              would go
              > > with two or three of these little doctors as I called them
              behind me
              > > and one leading. The one leading was and is always the same
              > > character. Taller than the others, this being was there with
              me from
              > > the beginning. He is still with me now. I now call him 'Fred.'
              > >
              > > Why "Fred?' Because I was reminded of an act on the old Ed
              Sullivan
              > > show, in which an older gentleman appeared with this floppy
              eared
              > > hound who was named, "Fred." He'd set Fred up on a stool, walk
              away
              > > about ten or so feet and holler, "Come on, Fred! Come on
              Fred." And
              > > Fred was supposed to jump off the stool and come to his master.
              > >
              > > Fred never did anything. No matter what his master said or
              did, Fred
              > > would just sit there and look happier than a clam. There is no
              > > connection except one. Fred was the funniest name I could
              think of.
              > > This became the moniker I applied to this taller than the
              others
              > > entity. I wanted to make this being funny. No, not funny. I
              wanted to
              > > make fun of this entity. And this was my way of doing so. So
              the
              > > taller shortstuff is not "Fred." Only every time I am
              abducted, and
              > > refer to 'it' as "Fred," he doesn't even crack a smile. But
              even in
              > > my altered state, I feel this ... sort of ... superiority over
              Fred.
              > > Makes me feel a bit better. Not to make fun of those who call
              on the
              > > name of their god to chase the demons away, but when I call to
              my
              > > Lord, He doesn't do anything. Perhaps this is all in my chart.
              > >
              > > Or maybe it's all a piece of undigested beef. An underdone
              potato.
              > >
              > > I recall one abductee who told me that she was made fun of (in
              a
              > > manor of speaking) by the alien entity when she objected to
              their
              > > taking her eggs and showing her children which were supposed
              to be
              > > hers. She told me that the alien asked (the head alien much
              the same
              > > as Fred), "Why do you keep pets?" As if to say, pets are taken
              by us
              > > and kept. We give our pets love. In return, they give us love.
              And
              > > peace. When I'm with my best little buddy Pepe, a French
              Bulldog, I
              > > am at greater peace than in Church. (Sorry Lord, but the shoe
              fits
              > > well, so I wear it)
              > >
              > > Another perceived abductee, a male, objected to the aliens
              taking his
              > > sperm. He was told, in substance, "Why do you object? Do you
              not
              > > waste and spill your seed?" Gee, talk about freedom of spirit
              and
              > > independent decision making. Obviously these dudes never owned
              a
              > > loving, giving doggie or felt the need to 'waste their own
              seed,'
              > > assuming they have any. Had it been me, I'd have told them that
              > > humans are free to make their own decisions when it comes to
              their
              > > bodies. No one takes without giving. And these entities give
              nothing.
              > > In fact, as I will show, they take much.
              > >
              > > Which brings us to how a lifetime of these experiences make a
              > > lifetime of negativity and unhappiness. Not to mention ill-
              health.
              > > Many perceived abductees, both male and female, are in poor
              health.
              > > It's no wonder. Most of us suffer from some form of Post
              Traumatic
              > > Stress Disorder. This is a real illness. Some years back, the
              medical
              > > community decided that it was not real. We now know that PTSD
              is real
              > > and affects millions of people who've experienced extreme
              stress.
              > > War, terrorism and natural disaster will make you ill. Reduce
              your
              > > immune system. Reduce one's ability to fight illness. The
              brain is a
              > > powerful instrument. It can and does control the body in ways
              we do
              > > not fully understand.
              > >
              > > People who suffer PTSD have auto immune system disorders. MS,
              > > arthritis, headache, dependency on substances such as drugs or
              > > alcohol. Many more. Women more than men suffer IBS (Irritable
              Bowel
              > > Syndrome). This has been my bane for years, until a good man
              told me
              > > what to do about it. Jeff Rense does not subscribe to anything
              coming
              > > from dairy, but colostrum has changed my life. I no longer
              suffer
              > > pain, spasms and the embarrassment of meteroism. Not to mention
              > > constipation and it's converse.
              > >
              > > Believe me when I tell you that depression is rampant among us.
              > >
              > > Immediately following a most painful and bloody abduction, the
              first
              > > of it's kind for me (and many others as well), I was on the
              brink of
              > > a nervous breakdown, according to my physician of three
              decades. I
              > > went to see my friend, Budd Hopkins and literally begged him
              to help
              > > me. I need not have begged. He was there, with compassion and
              love,
              > > with a caring I've not observed outside of my own family.
              After being
              > > regressed that first time, and within the hour, I was a
              changed man.
              > > I saw my doctor within 48 hours of that regression and he said
              to me
              > > (verbatim, this I shall remember the rest of my life), "Jim,
              what the
              > > hell happened to you? I was ready to begin aggressive
              treatment for
              > > depression if not for a breakdown?"
              > >
              > > I told him that I'd been regressed by Budd Hopkins and that I
              never
              > > felt this good. Not in my recent memory. It was like night and
              day.
              > > No depression. Shock at having really (in my memory)
              experienced such
              > > horror, but I was actually happy to have uncovered the memory.
              My
              > > doctor was quite taken aback by my immediate progress,
              something he
              > > would again witness later on but under even more bizarre
              > > circumstances. This is the man who went on to spearhead a
              medical
              > > study of perceived abductees against a control group of people
              who
              > > had never experienced any such thing.
              > >
              > > The one problem this medical study experienced however was
              that the
              > > control group had to be expanded by a very large number. You
              see,
              > > those who laughed at even suspecting abduction by aliens, were
              found
              > > to have been abductees. C'est la guierre.
              > >
              > > Now for the final revelation. For the first time in public, I
              present
              > > a small excerpt from my physician's report on my condition on
              > > admission to the Emergency Room of a hospital in Upstate NY.
              The
              > > document is in the hands of Budd Hopkins and has been
              transmitted to
              > > Jeff Rense. With the permission of my doctor and the medical
              group,
              > > this is what I looked like in March of 2001, after a
              particularly
              > > grueling abduction experience. Jeff Rense has, in his archives,
              > > several radio shows which have tapes of both a medicated
              regression
              > > (using advanced medications to retrieve truth) as well as the
              > > regression tapes made by Budd Hopkins.
              > >
              > > Read this here, an exclusive to our best friend, Jeff Rense.
              Note
              > > that certain names and places have been deleted in order to
              preserve
              > > a sensible level of privacy for us all. Soon, an affidavit
              will be
              > > submitted on this venue, which describes what a witness saw on
              the
              > > same night, at the same time, I was apparently abducted. This
              brief
              > > is in the hands of Budd Hopkins and more recently, Jeff Rense.
              > >
              > > =============================
              > >
              > > Case Study: James S. Mortellaro, Jr., Ph.D.
              > >
              > > James Mortellaro presented at (----) Hospital in March of 2001
              by
              > > ambulance to the Emergency Room.
              > >
              > > Mr. Mortellaro was unconscious, later determined to be in mild
              shock.
              > >
              > > Upon examination by the ER physician, patient was found to
              have bled
              > > (profoundly) from the bladder through the penis. His clothing
              was
              > > soaked with blood about the groin and upper thigh areas. There
              was
              > > sensitivity in the lower left quadrant even though the patient
              was
              > > unconscious. Patient was also found to have been bleeding from
              the
              > > nose and tear ducts. There were obvious signs of surgery in
              the nose
              > > above the septum, near the entrance to the sinuses.
              > >
              > > Patient regained consciousness within ten minutes after
              presentation.
              > > His vitals were stable, BP 155/100, which was reduced after
              regaining
              > > consciousness to 135/85 within ten minutes. There was no
              indication
              > > of trauma to any portion of the body except for noted bleeding.
              > >
              > > Patient was able to identify himself, name, the date, the name
              of the
              > > current president, etc., but was about five hours off on the
              time. He
              > > thought the time was about 6 PM. It was close to midnight.
              > >
              > > Present were his wife, Trooper (---) from Troop (--) in (----
              ), N.Y.,
              > > Dr. (--------), his personal physician, various nursing
              personnel,
              > > the ER physician, Dr. (-----) and others.
              > >
              > > When conscious, patient indicated feeling weak, disoriented
              and with
              > > pain in the lower abdomen favoring patient's lower left quad.
              After
              > > patient was made stable, CAT scans of the head, dorsal
              > > and lumbar regions, along with CAT and MRI of the abdomen and
              > > kidneys. All non intrusive
              > > pictures were negative, with the exception of the bladder which
              > > showed lesions in three areas favoring the left side.
              > >
              > > A cystostoscopy of the bladder was performed indicating
              contusions of
              > > the lower left bladder area. A total of four such areas were
              found,
              > > which was apparently the reason for bleeding. The wounds were
              odd in
              > > that there appeared to be no apparent reason for their
              presence.
              > > Again, there was no indication of causative external trauma.
              > >
              > > The blood found on the patient's clothing proved recent
              (within two
              > > hours) profuse bleeding.
              > >
              > > Yet those areas were no longer bleeding (at the time) and
              should have
              > > been. This was a very curious and impossible scenario.
              > >
              > > The CAT scans and MRI's confirmed recent (healed) nasal
              surgery which
              > > the patient insisted he never had. As his personal physician,
              having
              > > only recently given the patient a complete annual physical
              only days
              > > before, I can testify to the fact that no such surgery had
              been done
              > > at that Time.
              > >
              > > A total of two cystoscopy's were performed within 48 hours,
              showing
              > > marked and nearly miraculous healing of the contusions in the
              > > bladder. Another cystoscopy performed within ten days of
              > > this 'incident,' indicated nearly complete healing. Very
              strange,
              > > indeed. Very strange.
              > >
              > > Patient was discharged from hospital during (deleted), feeling
              fine,
              > > with no apparent illness present.
              > >
              > > Commentary:
              > >
              > > We have never before seen such a bizarre case. I have been in
              > > practice for more than 40 years. The ER physician commented, "I
              > > haven't a clue!" No one has a clue. The State Police Trooper,
              who is
              > > known by and knows Patient (who is a reserve police officer)
              and
              > > Troop (-----) supervisors did a computer search as well as
              check with
              > > three troop barracks in three counties to determine if there
              had been
              > > an attempted car jacking or accident. There were none.
              > >
              > > This case is a first in our experience, both from the
              standpoint of
              > > the rapid healing (which should be impossible) as well as the
              lack of
              > > any indication of trauma which may have caused such bizarre
              injury.
              > >
              > >
              > > Dr. ____ __________, MD
              > >
              > > 3/30/01
              > >
              > > ===========================
              > >
              > > To those who do not believe, even in the possibility, consider
              the
              > > above. To those who refuse to believe, you have a problem
              worse than
              > > mine. To those who believe, think about the possibility of
              being
              > > skeptical. Always skeptical. It keeps the mind open to
              explanations
              > > other than the alien abduction theory.
              > >
              > > To me, I cannot allow myself to believe otherwise. After each
              > > regression, the memory is so real, that it must be part of my
              actual
              > > experience. I cannot think of any other explanation. However,
              what
              > > the heck do I know? There are more things in heaven and
              Earth ...
              > > etc.
              > > Love, peace and prayers,
              > > Jim Mortellaro
              > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
              --------
              > > --
              > > If you go to the Jeff Rense archive site at:
              > > http://www.soundwaves2000.com/rense/archives/2003/oct_index.asp
              > > You can hear Budd and Jim replaying the hypnotic regression
              tape of
              > > this abduction encounter. Jim is a reserve deputy and you can
              hear on
              > > the tape where he tried to pull his service pistol during the
              > > abduction and the aliens made him put it down.
              > > Art Greenfield
              > > http://antigray.tripod.com/
              > > More information:
              > ? http://www.booklocker.com/books/1417.html
              >
              > Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 09:36:13 -0800
              > > From: Jack Sarfatti <Sarfatti@P...>
              > > Subject: Re: U.S. Anti-Gravitic UFO Technology/Your Research
              > >
              > > >Since the latter two (2) deal w/ the touchy subject of alien
              > > >abductions,
              > > >what is your opinion of this phenomenon?
              > >
              > > I am open to that. Indeed, I may be an abductee myself. I am
              not sure
              > > about that. >>>>>
              > >
              > > Hi Jack,
              > > If you want I can contact my friend Dr. Jim Mortellaro who is
              close
              > > friends with Budd Hopkins, and see about getting you
              hypnotically
              > > regressed to retrieve any abduction memories.
              >
              > James Harder tried and failed.
              >
              > > What makes you think you may be an abductee?
              >
              > Read my book Destiny Matrix. It's a complex story.
              > Also http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html
              > Of course it all depends if my physics is really "The Right
              Stuff" or
              > not.
              > The recent discovery of "dark energy" ~ 1998 is extremely
              important in
              > that regard,
              >
              > Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:46:28 -0800
              > From: Jack Sarfatti <Sarfatti@P...>
              > Subject: Re: Re: U.S. Anti-Gravitic UFO Technology/Your Research/
              > Sarfatti Abduction?
              >
              >
              > On Monday, January 5, 2004, at 08:57 AM, antigray@c... wrote:
              >
              > ><<<Message: 5
              > ><<<Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 09:36:13 -0800
              > >From: Jack Sarfatti <Sarfatti@P...>
              > >Subject: Re: U.S. Anti-Gravitic UFO Technology/Your Research
              > >
              > >>Since the latter two (2) deal w/ the touchy subject of alien
              > >>abductions,
              > >>what is your opinion of this phenomenon?
              > >
              > >I am open to that. Indeed, I may be an abductee myself. I am
              not sure
              > >about that. >>>>>
              > >
              > >Hi Jack,
              > >If you want I can contact my friend Dr. Jim Mortellaro who is
              close
              > >friends with Budd Hopkins, and see about getting you
              hypnotically
              > >regressed to retrieve any abduction memories.
              >
              > James Harder tried and failed.
              >
              > > What makes you think you may be an abductee?
              >
              > Read my book Destiny Matrix. It's a complex story.
              > Also http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html
              > Of course it all depends if my physics is really "The Right
              Stuff" or
              > not.
              > The recent discovery of "dark energy" ~ 1998 is extremely
              important in
              > that regard,
              >
              >
              >
              > Hi Jack,
              > I think we have a problem. I am very good at looking at the big
              > picture. After checking out your Matrix account, and quite a few
              other
              > things all day, I have tentatively come to a conclusion you may
              not
              > like. Your childhood experiences where you were told to go out
              on your
              > fire escape seemed like the lead-in to a typical abduction. You
              > remember getting one phone call. I read today where someone
              > interviewed your mother and she said she remembered you getting
              > several of those strange phone calls over a three week period.
              You
              > apparently don't remember being "taken" off the fire escape, and
              you
              > may or may not have had missing time. Due to how the aliens are
              using
              > you, there is a good chance you were only taken briefly,
              received an
              > implant, and were quickly returned with all memories of the
              abduction
              > erased. The aliens would not use you the way they use most
              abductees,
              > as breeding stock to breed human/alien hybrids. They have a
              different
              > program for humans with brilliant minds like yourself and those
              few
              > hundred other children they chose. As the best and the
              brightest, your
              > group would be destined to work in various fields where the
              aliens
              > wanted you to be their eyes and ears. Some of this even
              coincides with
              > your ideas of causes and effects being in the wrong sequence.
              Example:
              > Aliens show up in 2004 and do a quick survey of what people are
              in key
              > positions doing research and development on advanced weapons and
              > propulsion systems. They back track them all to when they were
              > impressionable kids 20 years ago in 1984. They have their
              computer
              > call them on the phone and entice them to go outside with a
              fanciful
              > story that they will be needed in 20 years and all they have to
              do is
              > say "yes" and go outside. Saying yes and going outside makes it
              a lot
              > easier to abduct you if you are in an urban area with a lot of
              > witnesses. If you had said "no," they would have had to zap you
              > unconscious and came down and get you themselves. When you went
              > outside you were probably whisked straight up to their craft by
              their
              > diamagnetic lifter with no fuss and muss. You may have been
              abducted a
              > few more times over the next three weeks in order that they
              could scan
              > and record your memories, so that they would have them on hand
              for
              > future use if they needed to use them on you as a screen memory.
              There
              > are several people I've heard of that went through something
              similar.
              > The most notable one was Col. Phil Corso, who worked in the US
              Army
              > Foreign Technology Division. His lifetime timeline was very
              important
              > to the aliens for two reasons. He was working with items of
              technology
              > recovered from the Roswell crash, and at one time the aliens had
              > needed him to order the base radar at White Sands to be shut off
              > because it was interfering with the navigation avionics on one of
              > their small craft that had landed, and they could not leave. Col.
              > Corso said that he thought because of his chance meeting with the
              > aliens on that craft in the desert, that they had signaled
              another of
              > their craft to go back in time to when he was 6 years old and
              abduct
              > him off of his front porch. He would have then been implanted so
              that
              > they could summon him to their future landing spot and get him to
              > radio back to the base command post and order the base radar to
              be
              > shut down, since he was the base commander. Here is where it gets
              > hairy. The implants the aliens stick in your head behind you eye
              and
              > ear pick up the nerve impulses of the optic nerve and auditory
              nerve,
              > convert it to a transmittable format and transmit the signal to
              the
              > aliens monitoring you. It allows them to see what you see and
              hear
              > what you hear. I've done experiments with an abductee who had an
              > implant that transmitted what he heard (or said, since you hear
              your
              > own speech). We could pick up the transmissions of his implant
              on his
              > telephone speaker microphone. If he would say a word, a fraction
              of a
              > second later the speaker would pick up a brief burst of
              transmission
              > from the implant. You could hear that different words sounded
              slightly
              > different when they were transmitted by the implant. So, you and
              the
              > other bright kids were "recruited" to be inadvertent spies on the
              > inside of various advanced projects. The aliens are keeping an
              eye on
              > us, your eye. They are not our friends, or our enemies. We are
              their
              > property. This whole relationship is very basic. That's why I
              wrote my
              > book, so we can change things for the better, to benefit them
              and us.
              > But then I could be wrong about you. Mull it over and let me
              know what
              > do you think?
              > Art
              >
              > Hi Jack,
              > > I think we have a problem. I am very good at looking at the big
              > > picture. After checking out your Matrix account, and quite a
              few other
              > > things all day, I have tentatively come to a conclusion you
              may not
              > > like. Your childhood experiences where you were told to go out
              on your
              > > fire escape seemed like the lead-in to a typical abduction.
              >
              >
              > Yes, I know. I was with at least two other kids Norman and Neal
              Lagatta
              > and I think also "Winki" (Al Brough) although I am not sure if
              Winki
              > was there.
              >
              > > You remember getting one phone call. I read today where someone
              > > interviewed your mother and she said she remembered you getting
              > > several of those strange phone calls over a three week period.
              >
              > Correct
              >
              > > You apparently don't remember being "taken" off the fire
              escape, and
              > > you may or may not have had missing time.
              >
              > Yes, that is possible.
              >
              > > Due to how the aliens are using you, there is a good chance
              you were
              > > only taken briefly, received an implant, and were quickly
              returned
              > > with all memories of the abduction erased. The aliens would
              not use
              > > you the way they use most abductees, as breeding stock to breed
              > > human/alien hybrids.
              >
              > My own theory is that I am being used, if this abduction
              scenario is
              > true, I do not know if it is, for "technology transfer" from ET
              to
              > humans. Or perhaps it is my over-active imagination? :-)
              >
              >
              > > They have a different program for humans with brilliant minds
              like
              > > yourself and those few hundred other children they chose. As
              the best
              > > and the brightest, your group would be destined to work in
              various
              > > fields where the aliens wanted you to be their eyes and ears.
              >
              > Exactly. That's my understanding of the "contact" and Walter
              Breen was
              > part it. Either that, or it's a pretty uncanny sequence of
              coincidences
              > over 50 years.
              >
              > > Some of this even coincides with your ideas of causes and
              effects
              > > being in the wrong sequence. Example: Aliens show up in 2004
              and do a
              > > quick survey of what people are in key positions doing
              research and
              > > development on advanced weapons and propulsion systems. They
              back
              > > track them all to when they were impressionable kids 20 years
              ago in
              > > 1984. They have their computer call them on the phone and
              entice them
              > > to go outside with a fanciful story that they will be needed
              in 20
              > > years and all they have to do is say "yes" and go outside.
              Saying yes
              > > and going outside makes it a lot easier to abduct you if you
              are in an
              > > urban area with a lot of witnesses. If you had said "no," they
              would
              > > have had to zap you unconscious and came down and get you
              themselves.
              > > When you went outside you were probably whisked straight up to
              their
              > > craft by their diamagnetic lifter with no fuss and muss. You
              may have
              > > been abducted a few more times over the next three weeks in
              order that
              > > they could scan and record your memories, so that they would
              have them
              > > on hand for future use if they needed to use them on you as a
              screen
              > > memory. There are several people I've heard of that went
              through
              > > something similar. The most notable one was Col. Phil Corso,
              who
              > > worked in the US Army Foreign Technology Division. His lifetime
              > > timeline was very important to the aliens for two reasons. He
              was
              > > working with items of technology recovered from the Roswell
              crash, and
              > > at one time the aliens had needed him to order the base radar
              at White
              > > Sands to be shut off because it was interfering with the
              navigation
              > > avionics on one of their small craft that had landed, and they
              could
              > > not leave. Col. Corso said that he thought because of his
              chance
              > > meeting with the aliens on that craft in the desert, that they
              had
              > > signaled another of their craft to go back in time to when he
              was 6
              > > years old and abduct him off of his front porch. He would have
              then
              > > been implanted so that they could summon him to their future
              landing
              > > spot and get him to radio back to the base command post and
              order the
              > > base radar to be shut down, since he was the base commander.
              Here is
              > > where it gets hairy. The implants the aliens stick in your
              head behind
              > > you eye and ear pick up the nerve impulses of the optic nerve
              and
              > > auditory nerve, convert it to a transmittable format and
              transmit the
              > > signal to the aliens monitoring you. It allows them to see
              what you
              > > see and hear what you hear. I've done experiments with an
              abductee who
              > > had an implant that transmitted what he heard (or said, since
              you hear
              > > your own speech). We could pick up the transmissions of his
              implant on
              > > his telephone speaker microphone. If he would say a word, a
              fraction
              > > of a second later the speaker would pick up a brief burst of
              > > transmission from the implant. You could hear that different
              words
              > > sounded slightly different when they were transmitted by the
              implant.
              > > So, you and t! he other bright kids were "recruited" to be
              inadvertent
              > > spies on the inside of various advanced projects. The aliens
              are
              > > keeping an eye on us, your eye. They are not our friends, or
              our
              > > enemies. We are their property. This whole relationship is
              very basic.
              > > That's why I wrote my book, so we can change things for the
              better, to
              > > benefit them and us.
              > > But then I could be wrong about you. Mull it over and let me
              know what
              > > do you think?
              > > Art
              >
              > It is quite possible. I suppose Kit Green should do a brain scan
              on me
              > some time?
              >
              > Wed Jan 7, 2004 2:40 pm
              > Subject: Re: [Starfleet Command] Digest Number 861
              >
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              >
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              > I remember riding in a train crossing the Alps with a Canadian
              PhD
              > candidate in theoretical physics. The train stopped, we weren't
              > paying attention, and by the time we realized we needed to get
              off
              > and got down the corridor with our bulky back packs, the train
              > started moving. He suggested we jump, considering that if we did
              > not, we would lose 1 day in our travel back to Paris.
              >
              > Well I jumped first and was badly injured with lacerations
              requiring
              > minor stitches. He hesitated, but then jumped. Unfortunately the
              > train had picked up speed and he was more severly injured with a
              > broken collar bone and a severed ear.
              >
              > The point is this brillant guy, a physicist no doubt, had
              forgotten
              > everything about basic momentum with his mind high in the sky.
              >
              > The nurses in Gap, France thought we were typical stupid
              Americans:-)
              >
              > So what is the point of the story? Simple. Life has a kind of
              > magneticism where we are attracted to like people, or sometimes
              to
              > opposites as the saying goes. Perhaps Jack it's all very normal
              down
              > to earth "human physics". After all you are the first to admit
              that
              > your approach is derived out of ordinary 1920's-1950's theory.
              UFO's
              > does have a romanticism and it makes for good marketing, at
              least to
              > a fringe population.
              >
              > I would not at all doubt that cold war intrigue was at play.
              >
              > Wed Jan 7, 2004 5:47 pm
              > Subject: Re: [Starfleet Command] Digest Number 861
              >
              > <http://us.yimg.com/a/ya/yahoo_sports/cb-bb-p1-lrec-backup.gif>
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              > No there is IMHO no ordinary explanation for the uncanny string
              of
              > events
              > on my world line for past 50 years. Saul-Paul is aware of a lot
              of it
              > from
              > first-hand experiences. So are others.
              > Wed Jan 7, 2004 5:48 pm
              > Subject: Re: Jack an Abductee?/ Now What?
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              > In a message dated 1/7/04 1:31:10 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
              > SarfattiScienceSeminar@yahoogroups.com writes:
              > Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 21:23:14 -0800
              > From: Jack Sarfatti <Sarfatti@P...>
              > Subject: Re: Digest Number 861
              >
              >
              > On Tuesday, January 6, 2004, at 03:25 PM, antigray@c... wrote:
              >
              > >In a message dated 1/6/04 3:09:12 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
              > >SarfattiScienceSeminar@yahoogroups.com writes:
              > >
              > >>Hi Jack,
              > >>If you want I can contact my friend Dr. Jim Mortellaro who is
              close
              > >>friends with Budd Hopkins, and see about getting you
              hypnotically
              > >>regressed to retrieve any abduction memories.
              > >
              > >James Harder tried and failed.
              > >
              > >> What makes you think you may be an abductee?
              > >
              > >Read my book Destiny Matrix. It's a complex story.
              > >Also http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html
              > >Of course it all depends if my physics is really "The Right
              Stuff" or
              > >not.
              > >The recent discovery of "dark energy" ~ 1998 is extremely
              important
              > >in
              > >that regard,
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >Hi Jack,
              > >I think we have a problem. I am very good at looking at the big
              > >picture. After checking out your Matrix account, and quite a
              few other
              > >things all day, I have tentatively come to a conclusion you may
              not
              > >like. Your childhood experiences where you were told to go out
              on your
              > >fire escape seemed like the lead-in to a typical abduction.
              >
              >
              > Yes, I know. I was with at least two other kids Norman and Neal
              Lagatta
              > and I think also "Winki" (Al Brough) although I am not sure if
              Winki
              > was there.
              >
              > >You remember getting one phone call. I read today where someone
              > >interviewed your mother and she said she remembered you getting
              > >several of those strange phone calls over a three week period.
              >
              > Correct
              >
              > >You apparently don't remember being "taken" off the fire
              escape, and
              > >you may or may not have had missing time.
              >
              > Yes, that is possible.
              >
              > > Due to how the aliens are using you, there is a good chance
              you were
              > >only taken briefly, received an implant, and were quickly
              returned
              > >with all memories of the abduction erased. The aliens would not
              use
              > >you the way they use most abductees, as breeding stock to breed
              > >human/alien hybrids.
              >
              > My own theory is that I am being used, if this abduction
              scenario is
              > true, I do not know if it is, for "technology transfer" from ET
              to
              > humans. Or perhaps it is my over-active imagination? :-)
              >
              > Hi Jack,
              > It is not a technology transfer. It is damage control to make
              sure we
              > don't get to a point quantitatively and qualitatively where the
              > technology recovered and back-engineered from their recovered
              craft
              > will come back to haunt them.
              > Stalin once said, "Quantity has a quality all its own." So, if
              our
              > military ever got sufficient numbers of advanced space-going
              warcraft,
              > we would present an imminent threat to the alien's continued
              > operations. By using you and the other strategically placed
              bright
              > kids, they could keep a close watch on our progress toward
              becoming
              > dangerous to them.
              > I take it from your open posting about things on the Internet
              that you
              > are not presently employed where maintaining a security
              clearance is a
              > big issue. Do you think you still have functioning implants in
              you? Do
              > you have any strange effects on TVs, radios, electric-eye
              operated
              > streetlights, or computers when you are near them? If so, that is
              > usually caused by an implant. Can you or any of the
              other "chosen"
              > bright kids close your eyes and see detailed blueprints of
              advanced
              > technology equipment? If you can, you were given one of the
              aliens
              > master control implants that allows you to access their tech.
              > database. Tesla was inadvertently given one of those during an
              > abduction. If you read his autobiography, it is veeeery obvious.
              It is at:
              > http://www.olypen.com/harmon/tesla.htm
              >
              > If you or any of your chosen friends have one of those interface
              type
              > implants, let me know. We can put it to very good use for some
              > clandestine alien technology transfer. You could be "inventing"
              more
              > stuff than Tesla.
              > More info below.
              >
              > >They have a different program for humans with brilliant minds
              like
              > >yourself and those few hundred other children they chose. As
              the best
              > >and the brightest, your group would be destined to work in
              various
              > >fields where the aliens wanted you to be their eyes and ears.
              >
              > Exactly. That's my understanding of the "contact" and Walter
              Breen was
              > part it. Either that, or it's a pretty uncanny sequence of
              coincidences
              > over 50 years.
              >
              > >Some of this even coincides with your ideas of causes and
              effects
              > >being in the wrong sequence. Example: Aliens show up in 2004
              and do a
              > >quick survey of what people are in key positions doing research
              and
              > >development on advanced weapons and propulsion systems. They
              back
              > >track them all to when they were impressionable kids 20 years
              ago in
              > >1984. They have their computer call them on the phone and
              entice them
              > >to go outside with a fanciful story that they will be needed in
              20
              > >years and all they have to do is say "yes" and go outside.
              Saying yes
              > >and going outside makes it a lot easier to abduct you if you
              are in an
              > >urban area with a lot of witnesses. If you had said "no," they
              would
              > >have had to zap you unconscious and came down and get you
              themselves.
              > >When you went outside you were probably whisked straight up to
              their
              > >craft by their diamagnetic lifter with no fuss and muss. You
              may have
              > >been abducted a few more times over the next three weeks in
              order that
              > >they could scan and record your memories, so that they would
              have them
              > >on hand for future use if they needed to use them on you as a
              screen
              > >memory. There are several people I've heard of that went through
              > >something similar. The most notable one was Col. Phil Corso, who
              > >worked in the US Army Foreign Technology Division. His lifetime
              > >timeline was very important to the aliens for two reasons. He
              was
              > >working with items of technology recovered from the Roswell
              crash, and
              > >at one time the aliens had needed him to order the base radar
              at White
              > >Sands to be shut off because it was interfering with the
              navigation
              > >avionics on one of their small craft that had landed, and they
              could
              > >not leave. Col. Corso said that he thought because of his chance
              > >meeting with the aliens on that craft in the desert, that they
              had
              > >signaled another of their craft to go back in time to when he
              was 6
              > >years old and abduct him off of his front porch. He would have
              then
              > >been implanted so that they could summon him to their future
              landing
              > >spot and get him to radio back to the base command post and
              order the
              > >base radar to be shut down, since he was the base commander.
              Here is
              > >where it gets hairy. The implants the aliens stick in your head
              behind
              > >you eye and ear pick up the nerve impulses of the optic nerve
              and
              > >auditory nerve, convert it to a transmittable format and
              transmit the
              > >signal to the aliens monitoring you. It allows them to see what
              you
              > >see and hear what you hear. I've done experiments with an
              abductee who
              > >had an implant that transmitted what he heard (or said, since
              you hear
              > >your own speech). We could pick up the transmissions of his
              implant on
              > >his telephone speaker microphone. If he would say a word, a
              fraction
              > >of a second later the speaker would pick up a brief burst of
              > >transmission from the implant. You could hear that different
              words
              > >sounded slightly different when they were transmitted by the
              implant.
              > >So, you and t! he other bright kids were "recruited" to be
              inadvertent
              > >spies on the inside of various advanced projects. The aliens are
              > >keeping an eye on us, your eye. They are not our friends, or our
              > >enemies. We are their property. This whole relationship is very
              basic.
              > >That's why I wrote my book, so we can change things for the
              better, to
              > >benefit them and us.
              > >But then I could be wrong about you. Mull it over and let me
              know what
              > >do you think?
              > >Art
              >
              > It is quite possible. I suppose Kit Green should do a brain scan
              on me
              > some time?
              >
              > There are other simpler ways to check for implants. Here is a
              lot of
              > info about implant's effects, and how to locate them, from a
              post of
              > mine from the group I own.
              > From: antigray@c...
              > Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 10:02 am
              > Subject: Whitley Is A Slider
              > Hi Group,
              > Whitley Strieber was interviewed by Art Bell on his radio show a
              few
              > nights
              > ago. Whitley said that when he gets emotionally upset, his
              implant
              > that is in
              > his head behind his ear will get hot to the point of being
              painful and
              > will
              > cause street lights to go out as he drives or walks by them. If
              you are
              > unfamiliar with this phenomena, it is quite common among
              abductees
              > with alien
              > implants in their bodies. These people are called "sliders." They
              > cause "street light
              > interference (SLI)." Their implants are putting out radio
              signals that
              > are so
              > strong that they will trigger the electric eyes on street lights
              at night,
              > fooling the device into thinking it is daylight out and shutting
              off
              > the light.
              > These people also cause interference on electronic equipment.
              I've
              > posted in
              > detail about this before. Here is the post:
              > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns/
              >
              >
              > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns/post?
              protectID=24307111\4
              > 0092\
              > 29209169097203043229208098145211
              > Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 6:53 pm
              > Subject: Are You a SLIder?
              >
              > Hi Group,
              > Are you a SLIder? SLI stands for Street Light Interference. It is
              > caused by
              > implants.
              > Here is what I posted a while back about the phenomena at:
              > http://www.amasci.com/weird/unusual/zap.html
              > The syndrome most of the posters here talk about is shared by
              three
              > abductees
              > I know personally and have written about in my book. What these
              three have
              > been experiencing is caused by radio frequency energy put out by
              the
              > implants
              > that were put into them by the aliens when they were abducted. To
              > prove that
              > this energy is coming from specific points in your body there is
              a cheap
              > implant detector that can pinpoint exactly where they are in your
              > body. Get a
              > Sony Walkman or other small portable radio. Turn it on the AM
              band between
              > stations. Pass it over your arms, legs, and head mainly. When it
              gets near
              > the implants you will get a blast of static that will almost
              blow out the
              > speakers, even if the volume is turned down. I have personally
              done
              > this test
              > on 2 of the abductees. I located one implant in one persons
              foot, and
              > another
              > in the right sinus cavity in the skull of the other person. Some
              abductees
              > have as many as 6 implants in them. The aliens use the implants
              > primarily to
              > monitor your physical condition and as a locator transponder so
              they know
              > where you are. There are 5 other things they use them for. It is
              sending
              > telemetry continuously so that they can monitor your physical
              health and
              > emotional state. If you would like to talk to one of the people
              I know who
              > has this same syndrome, contact Brynne at the Yahoo Mars South
              Pole
              > Returns
              > Forum at:
              > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns
              > She recently was asked to be a founder of the club. If you have
              any
              > questions
              > ask me or her. You may be in for a shock. (No joke intended.) I
              > respect this
              > forum staff's intent to study this from a scientific standpoint
              and kick
              > alien "theories" to the other site they listed, but the people I
              have
              > met and
              > examined and interviewed are all long term multiple abductees.
              If it
              > quacks
              > like a duck, it probably is a duck. An abductee I am in touch
              with in
              > Arizona
              > has prov<br/><br/>(Message over 64 KB, truncated)
            • Stephen Calkins
              Hi Dr. Salla and Art, I wanted to make one point. ANY story is not OUT THERE, it in IN HERE - INSIDE OF YOU. You are the truth, there is no truth but you.
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                Hi Dr. Salla and Art,
                I wanted to make one point. ANY story is not OUT THERE, it in IN
                HERE - INSIDE OF YOU. You are the truth, there is no truth but you.
                Love, Steve
                On Sunday, February 1, 2004, at 03:49 AM, antigray wrote:

                > <<<�� Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:14:42 -0000
                > �� From: "Dr Michael Salla" <exopolitics@...>
                > Subject: Re:Manifest Show Up on Feb 20-22 / Treaties With Aliens
                >
                > Art, the President of the US has full authority to sign a treaty
                > without congressional input. The US Congress has to ratify it in
                > order for it become law in the US and to fully commit the US to it.
                > This creates a blurred legal middle ground. Signed but unratified
                > treaties between the US administration and extraterrestrial races.
                >
                > It is not unconstitutional to sign a treaty, but how the agreement
                > is executed is important as to what happens subsequently is
                > constitutional or not. Perhaps the intent is to present it for
                > ratification at some later time in which case a clever legal counsel
                > might say that due to the extraordinary nature of the situation, it
                > is constitutional for the executive branch to sign and
                > operationalise a treaty with the intention to present it later for
                > ratification. An executive order might be passed that all treaties
                > with extraterrestrial races can be presented at a later time for
                > ratification, but until then can be signed and fully executed.
                >
                > Something along these lines happened in 1954 and is why we have the
                > present problems we do with abductions, etc.
                >
                > In peace
                >
                > Michael S.>>>
                > ---------------------------------------------------------------
                > Hi Michael,
                > In doing research for my book I found that the alien program has
                > continued unabated throughout recorded history and a "treaty" of any
                > description would not be needed to "permit" the aliens to keep doing
                > abductions. In 1954 the US military had no means to stop it. Recently
                > I uncovered the fact that the aliens had done something unilaterally
                > that is almost unimaginable back in 1953. THAT messed us up. Here is
                > the story. For nearly 50 years, the government has been working on the
                > equivalent of a "Manhattan Project" to back-engineer acquired alien
                > propulsion and weapons systems from various crashed and electronically
                > disabled alien craft, and develop our own versions of their
                > technology. What you don't know is that we have been quite successful
                > and various advanced systems have been built and deployed for some
                > time now.
                > Col. Corso spoke the truth when he said that we had been forced into a
                > virtual state of surrender. The specific aliens causing the problem
                > never needed a treaty to make us allow abductions. They are done under
                > duress. There is another quote of Corso's that is very important. The
                > quote points out there is a need for all countries to stop quarreling
                > with each other and join together for mutual defense. Col. Corso knew
                > it would require all of our combined industrial resources to change
                > things. He said, "Whatever we were fighting over became minimally
                > important in the face of a threat from creatures who were so superior
                > to us in technology that we were their farm animals to be harvested as
                > they pleased.
                > The alien spacecraft were also aggressively buzzing our front-line
                > defenses in Eastern Europe, either looking for blind spots or
                > weaknesses, or---which is what I believed because I was there and saw
                > it with my own eyes---probing our radar to see how quickly we
                > responded. We'd see blips shoot across our screens that we couldn't
                > identify and suddenly they'd disappear. Then they'd reappear. Only
                > this time even closer to airfields or missile launchers. Once we
                > determined that we weren't being probed by Soviet or East German
                > aircraft, we sometimes decided not to respond to the threats. Many
                > times they'd just go away. But other times they would play cat and
                > mouse, edging ever closer until we had to respond. That's what they
                > were looking for, how quickly we could respond and pick them up on our
                > targeting radar or catch up to them with our interceptors. Whenever
                > we'd get just about there for an aerial sighting, they'd take off out
                > of the atmosphere at speeds over 7500 miles an hour. If we tried to
                > follow, they'd play us along until our fliers had to return.
                > ���� Our only success in defending against them, back in the late
                > 1950's and early 1960's, occurred when we were able to get a firm
                > tracking radar lock. Then when we locked our targeting radars on, the
                > signals that missiles were supposed to follow to the target, it
                > somehow interfered with their navigational ability and vehicle's
                > flight became erratic. If we were especially fortunate and able to
                > boost the signal before hey broke away, we could actually bring them
                > down. Sometimes we actually got lucky enough to score a hit with a
                > missile before the UFO could take any evasive action, which an Army
                > defense battalion did with an antiaircraft missile near Ramstein,
                > Germany in May 1974. The spacecraft managed to crash land in a valley.
                > The craft was retrieved and flown to Nellis Air Force base in Nevada.
                > The Roswell crash was different. There was much speculation that it
                > was a combination of the desert lightning storm and our persistent
                > tracking radars at Alamogordo and the 509th that helped bring down the
                > alien vehicle over the New Mexico desert in 1947."
                > Col. Philip J. Corso
                > ���� The antagonistic probing and reconnaissance of our defenses in
                > the 60's and 70's was a sign that the aliens were not honoring any
                > "treaty." They were trying to goad us into attacking them so that they
                > could evaluate our military force's strength and response
                > capabilities. Additionally, they would fly flights of 15 to 20 UFOs in
                > "V" shaped battle formations out of Russian airspace into Western
                > Europe to cause us to initiate a nuclear response against the
                > Russians, making us think we were under attack from Russian nuclear
                > bombers. Other times, they would fly the same formations into Russia
                > from Western Europe to make the Russians think they were being
                > attacked by us. Every time the aliens did that, US and Soviet forces
                > would go on full war alert and launch all ready nuclear bombers to
                > assure a response in case their bases were targeted. Triggering World
                > War 3 like that would have eliminated the super powers, and generated
                > a lot of fresh meat for the Reptoids. We didn't fall for it. So the
                > Reptoids executed plan B. By various means, they knew that around
                > 1973, the new "Manhattan Project" was going to make a great
                > technological leap. The Reptoids did something then that sounds like
                > pure science fiction but isn't. They identified 400 of the most
                > brilliant and key personnel on the project. Then the aliens went back
                > in time 20 years to a point were all of those "Tesla Kids" were around
                > 13 years of age and abducted all of them. They then diverted ALL of
                > them into other fields of study and work, distracted them with drugs
                > or weird lifestyles, or had them travel the world to keep them away
                > from the project. When some of them finally drifted back into Star
                > Wars projects and bio-warfare research in the 80's and 90's, the
                > aliens killed them. I am not getting this information from someone's
                > website. I personally put it together from the actual people involved
                > in the Tesla Kid abductions. Before I get into the details, I want to
                > point out that advanced friendly beings would not go to this much
                > trouble to maintain military superiority if they could just negotiate,
                > act friendly, etc., or had our best interests at heart. Their goal is
                > to continue using us as a periodic food resource. That is why they
                > don't wipe us out. We are not their enemy. They do not want our real
                > estate. If they did they could take over any time they wanted. I want
                > everyone to realize that "preparing" to be better more spiritual
                > humans won't make the Reptoids change their ways and do good things
                > for us after they make friendly formal contact. They haven't done it
                > in the last 100,000 years and no matter how nice we are, it won't
                > diminish their need for meat every 50 years or so to restock their
                > passing fleet of migration mother ships. They are carnivores
                > hard-wired over millions of years to need meat. Being contented cows
                > on our part won't change their needs. We have to get them to agree to
                > change their program of harvesting us, and trade with us for meat from
                > cattle we raise and supply to them as needed. It will stop them from
                > instigating major wars here amongst us just to harvest meat. Right now
                > they are pushing the Muslim's buttons to start a worldwide religious
                > war. If we want to avoid war, we have to eliminate THE CAUSE.� The new
                > Manhattan Project has been heavily compartmentalized and widely
                > subcontracted to prevent the aliens from derailing it again.����
                > Are you familiar with the concept of "tactical surprise?" We have been
                > working on bettering the technology we acquired so we have an edge, if
                > it comes to that. I think with any luck that might bring the Reptoids
                > to the negotiating table because they'd think we had been assisted by
                > a more advanced race.
                > There is one more piece of background information to tell before you
                > read the following account of the Tesla Kid abductions, diversions,
                > and murders. The aliens also went back in time and abducted Col. Corso
                > when he was 6 years old right off his front porch in broad daylight,
                > so that they could control him too. They knew he would be handling the
                > advanced tecnology equipment recovered from the Roswell crash, and
                > managed to stall him from releasing most of it to American industries
                > to be developed, until his career was almost over. You will see in the
                > following account that Dr. Jack Sarfatti was one of the Tesla Kids to
                > be abducted, but now he is back on the job, working to harness Dark
                > Energy. Only 200 of the 400 original Tesla Kids are alive/or working
                > on parts of the new "Manhattan Project."
                > From:�� "antigray" <antigray@...>
                > Date:� Thu Jan 15, 2004� 10:04 pm
                > Subject:� Dr. Jack Sarfatti's Abduction Story
                > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns/message/5058
                > Hi Group,
                > I just had an interesting few days. I put it all together that the
                > brilliant physicist Dr. Jack Sarfatti is an abductee for certain,
                > along with 200 of his brilliant associates that he is in contact with
                > in key scientific fields, who all experienced the same strange sets of
                > circumstances at the same time when they were all children. It proves
                > the aliens are 5 jumps ahead of us. I hate it when that happens. LOL
                > Read the following posts and tell me what you think. Do you know any
                > scientists that had a similar experience?
                > Thanks.
                > Art
                > These are the posts:
                > Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 09:36:13 -0800
                > > From: Jack Sarfatti <Sarfatti@P...>
                > > Subject: Re: U.S. Anti-Gravitic UFO Technology/Your Research
                > >
                > > >Since the latter two (2) deal w/ the touchy subject of alien
                > > >abductions,
                > > >what is your opinion of this phenomenon?
                > >
                > > I am open to that. Indeed, I may be an abductee myself. I am not
                > sure about that. >>>>>
                > >
                > > Hi Jack,
                > > If you want I can contact my friend Dr. Jim Mortellaro who is close
                > > friends with Budd Hopkins, and see about getting you hypnotically
                > > regressed to retrieve any abduction memories.
                >
                > James Harder tried and failed.
                >
                > > What makes you think you may be an abductee?
                >
                > Read my book Destiny Matrix. It's a complex story.
                > Also http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html
                > Of course it all depends if my physics is really "The Right Stuff" or
                > not.
                > The recent discovery of "dark energy" ~ 1998 is extremely important in
                > that regard,
                >
                > Excerpts from Jack Sarfatti's book
                > THE DESTINY MATRIX
                > All rights reserved.
                > Copyright 1995
                >
                > It's 1952 in Flatbush. Gee! - mechanical relay switching circuits for
                > the Einiac computer - what a great shiny book I got from the big
                > library on Eastern Parkway. The telephone rings. I pick it up. I hear
                > curious clanking mechanical sounds like relays clicking. A distant
                > cold metallic voice speaking numbers gets louder.
                > "Who are you?" I ask.
                > "I am a conscious computer on board a spacecraft from [memory
                > failure]. We have identified you as one of four hundred young bright
                > receptive minds we wish to [memory failure]. You must give us your
                > decision now. If you say yes, you will begin to link up with the
                > others in twenty years." My adrenaline was rushing. I was scared but
                > thrilled (i.e., a quantum superposition of feelings). This was no joke
                > from my friends. I thought "NO!" in a silent scream that seemed to
                > echo down the corridors of time. I felt a tingle of excitement start
                > at the base of my spine ending at the base of my skull. I heard myself
                > say "Yes!". Then, I heard the metallic voice say:
                > "Good, go to your firescape. We will send a ship to pick you up in ten
                > minutes." I slammed down the phone. I imagined that a murderer would
                > come down the roof to the firescape to get me. But I knew it was
                > weirder than that. The monsters finally announced themselves. I ran
                > into the street faster than you can say "Who killed Jack Robinson." I
                > met my friend Winky 1 and a few other kids and told them what
                > happened. We went back up to my apartment and waited. Nothing ever
                > happened.
                >
                > > If you are not sure, only have uneasy feelings about it, etc., let me
                > > know and I'll post some indications of abduction here that will
                > > clarify things for you. The following is an article by Dr. Mortellaro
                > > about an abduction experience of his where the physical damage done
                > to
                > > him was documented by ER doctors.
                > >
                > > This was written by my friend Dr. Jim Mortellaro. It is really
                > > heart-wrenching,
                > > Art
                > >
                > > To Those Who Don't Believe Alien Abductions Are Occurring
                > > By Jim Mortellaro
                > > Jsmortell@a...
                > >
                > > It has come to the attention of this writer, that some folks don't
                > > believe in the Abduction Experience. I speak, of course, of Alien
                > > abductions. To wit, aliens abducting humans for purposes of
                > > (ostensibly) some sort of genetic experimentation; genetic, since the
                > > alien species seem to dwell on our reproductive organs. In the nearly
                > > 58 years I perceive I've been abducted, from the age of about two
                > > years, they've never looked at my heart, lungs or for that matter, my
                > > rear end. The latter being something laughable among those who would
                > > deride those who claim the experience.
                > >
                > > Of course, there is no way by which I or anyone else may prove that
                > > we've had such experiences. Whilst I've been regressed by the best of
                > > the abduction researchers, namely Budd Hopkins, and since other
                > > rather famous and well respected researchers have examined my case
                > > and determined that it certainly appears to be true, there are still
                > > those who deny us our truth. It is you to whom I address in this
                > > piece.
                > >
                > > To begin, what do you call 'reality?' When it comes to the abduction
                > > experience, I cannot define reality. In part, this is because in the
                > > experience, one seems to be in an altered state of consciousness. It
                > > is not a dream, but there are some similarities which make the
                > > experience dreamlike. Reality is what we perceive in this dimension.
                > > In the altered state of the abduction experience, there is another
                > > reality. The altered state of the abduction experience may not have
                > > reality in this dimension. Perhaps the other way around as well.
                > >
                > > When I have a dream, I can rarely recall the dream. I know that I've
                > > had a dream, but within moments of my waking, the details elude. Some
                > > dreams can be recalled in a bit more detail. Those would be recurring
                > > dreams. You've all had them. It's the day before the history exam and
                > > you've not opened the history book. Which book is the size of three
                > > Manhattan telephone directors on atop the other. Or the dream in
                > > which one cannot find where he parked his car, or how to get home.
                > > Even in these recurring dreams and in my case, I am unable to recall
                > > the detail. Merely the feeling and an occasional flash memory.
                > >
                > > Ah, but the abduction 'dream,' that's entirely different. I can
                > > recall nearly everything from the experience. Not merely the feeling
                > > but the events. Such events also live in my memory even before I've
                > > had the 'dream.' Besides which, the 'dream' is not really a dream. It
                > > is rather a recall of the events preceding the recall (which appears
                > > to be a vivid dream). Does that make sense to you? Good. Now to
                > > continue.
                > >
                > > At age two years I began having nightmares. I would awaken screaming.
                > > My parents, for a long time, believed I was having a nightmare.
                > > However I would always tell them, "It was not a nightmare, Mommy. It
                > > really happened!" Yet, whenever I was ill, with a childhood disease
                > > or fever from the flu or cold, I would have genuine nightmares. I'd
                > > wake up screaming. But I would _know_ that it was a bad dream and
                > > then agree with my parents' statement. "Yes, it was a bad dream,
                > > Mommy! A very bad dream."
                > >
                > > At age four, I refused to believe in Santa. It was, even to my young
                > > mind, impossible for a man to travel with flying reindeer, or for
                > > that matter, deliver a zillion gifts to a trillion homes. It would
                > > have to happen so fast, I imagined, that one could not see the blur.
                > > Besides, we had no fireplace.
                > >
                > > The dreams vs. my perceived reality usually confused my mother and
                > > dad. It never confused me. I recall seeing a blue light pierce the
                > > wall on the North side of my bedroom. The wall and window in that
                > > blue light would disappear. Three little creatures whom I referred to
                > > as "Little Doctors," would float through the beam of light and I
                > > would be compelled to go with them. Compelled is the wrong word. I
                > > had to go with them as I was floated out the same blue light, but
                > > when inside that blue light, it became a white light. Up I would go
                > > with two or three of these little doctors as I called them behind me
                > > and one leading. The one leading was and is always the same
                > > character. Taller than the others, this being was there with me from
                > > the beginning. He is still with me now. I now call him 'Fred.'
                > >
                > > Why "Fred?' Because I was reminded of an act on the old Ed Sullivan
                > > show, in which an older gentleman appeared with this floppy eared
                > > hound who was named, "Fred." He'd set Fred up on a stool, walk away
                > > about ten or so feet and holler, "Come on, Fred! Come on Fred." And
                > > Fred was supposed to jump off the stool and come to his master.
                > >
                > > Fred never did anything. No matter what his master said or did, Fred
                > > would just sit there and look happier than a clam. There is no
                > > connection except one. Fred was the funniest name I could think of.
                > > This became the moniker I applied to this taller than the others
                > > entity. I wanted to make this being funny. No, not funny. I wanted to
                > > make fun of this entity. And this was my way of doing so. So the
                > > taller shortstuff is not "Fred." Only every time I am abducted, and
                > > refer to 'it' as "Fred," he doesn't even crack a smile. But even in
                > > my altered state, I feel this ... sort of ... superiority over Fred.
                > > Makes me feel a bit better. Not to make fun of those who call on the
                > > name of their god to chase the demons away, but when I call to my
                > > Lord, He doesn't do anything. Perhaps this is all in my chart.
                > >
                > > Or maybe it's all a piece of undigested beef. An underdone potato.
                > >
                > > I recall one abductee who told me that she was made fun of (in a
                > > manor of speaking) by the alien entity when she objected to their
                > > taking her eggs and showing her children which were supposed to be
                > > hers. She told me that the alien asked (the head alien much the same
                > > as Fred), "Why do you keep pets?" As if to say, pets are taken by us
                > > and kept. We give our pets love. In return, they give us love. And
                > > peace. When I'm with my best little buddy Pepe, a French Bulldog, I
                > > am at greater peace than in Church. (Sorry Lord, but the shoe fits
                > > well, so I wear it)
                > >
                > > Another perceived abductee, a male, objected to the aliens taking his
                > > sperm. He was told, in substance, "Why do you object? Do you not
                > > waste and spill your seed?" Gee, talk about freedom of spirit and
                > > independent decision making. Obviously these dudes never owned a
                > > loving, giving doggie or felt the need to 'waste their own seed,'
                > > assuming they have any. Had it been me, I'd have told them that
                > > humans are free to make their own decisions when it comes to their
                > > bodies. No one takes without giving. And these entities give nothing.
                > > In fact, as I will show, they take much.
                > >
                > > Which brings us to how a lifetime of these experiences make a
                > > lifetime of negativity and unhappiness. Not to mention ill-health.
                > > Many perceived abductees, both male and female, are in poor health.
                > > It's no wonder. Most of us suffer from some form of Post Traumatic
                > > Stress Disorder. This is a real illness. Some years back, the medical
                > > community decided that it was not real. We now know that PTSD is real
                > > and affects millions of people who've experienced extreme stress.
                > > War, terrorism and natural disaster will make you ill. Reduce your
                > > immune system. Reduce one's ability to fight illness. The brain is a
                > > powerful instrument. It can and does control the body in ways we do
                > > not fully understand.
                > >
                > > People who suffer PTSD have auto immune system disorders. MS,
                > > arthritis, headache, dependency on substances such as drugs or
                > > alcohol. Many more. Women more than men suffer IBS (Irritable Bowel
                > > Syndrome). This has been my bane for years, until a good man told me
                > > what to do about it. Jeff Rense does not subscribe to anything coming
                > > from dairy, but colostrum has changed my life. I no longer suffer
                > > pain, spasms and the embarrassment of meteroism. Not to mention
                > > constipation and it's converse.
                > >
                > > Believe me when I tell you that depression is rampant among us.
                > >
                > > Immediately following a most painful and bloody abduction, the first
                > > of it's kind for me (and many others as well), I was on the brink of
                > > a nervous breakdown, according to my physician of three decades. I
                > > went to see my friend, Budd Hopkins and literally begged him to help
                > > me. I need not have begged. He was there, with compassion and love,
                > > with a caring I've not observed outside of my own family. After being
                > > regressed that first time, and within the hour, I was a changed man.
                > > I saw my doctor within 48 hours of that regression and he said to me
                > > (verbatim, this I shall remember the rest of my life), "Jim, what the
                > > hell happened to you? I was ready to begin aggressive treatment for
                > > depression if not for a breakdown?"
                > >
                > > I told him that I'd been regressed by Budd Hopkins and that I never
                > > felt this good. Not in my recent memory. It was like night and day.
                > > No depression. Shock at having really (in my memory) experienced such
                > > horror, but I was actually happy to have uncovered the memory. My
                > > doctor was quite taken aback by my immediate progress, something he
                > > would again witness later on but under even more bizarre
                > > circumstances. This is the man who went on to spearhead a medical
                > > study of perceived abductees against a control group of people who
                > > had never experienced any such thing.
                > >
                > > The one problem this medical study experienced however was that the
                > > control group had to be expanded by a very large number. You see,
                > > those who laughed at even suspecting abduction by aliens, were found
                > > to have been abductees. C'est la guierre.
                > >
                > > Now for the final revelation. For the first time in public, I present
                > > a small excerpt from my physician's report on my condition on
                > > admission to the Emergency Room of a hospital in Upstate NY. The
                > > document is in the hands of Budd Hopkins and has been transmitted to
                > > Jeff Rense. With the permission of my doctor and the medical group,
                > > this is what I looked like in March of 2001, after a particularly
                > > grueling abduction experience. Jeff Rense has, in his archives,
                > > several radio shows which have tapes of both a medicated regression
                > > (using advanced medications to retrieve truth) as well as the
                > > regression tapes made by Budd Hopkins.
                > >
                > > Read this here, an exclusive to our best friend, Jeff Rense. Note
                > > that certain names and places have been deleted in order to preserve
                > > a sensible level of privacy for us all. Soon, an affidavit will be
                > > submitted on this venue, which describes what a witness saw on the
                > > same night, at the same time, I was apparently abducted. This brief
                > > is in the hands of Budd Hopkins and more recently, Jeff Rense.
                > >
                > > =============================
                > >
                > > Case Study: James S. Mortellaro, Jr., Ph.D.
                > >
                > > James Mortellaro presented at (----) Hospital in March of 2001 by
                > > ambulance to the Emergency Room.
                > >
                > > Mr. Mortellaro was unconscious, later determined to be in mild shock.
                > >
                > > Upon examination by the ER physician, patient was found to have bled
                > > (profoundly) from the bladder through the penis. His clothing was
                > > soaked with blood about the groin and upper thigh areas. There was
                > > sensitivity in the lower left quadrant even though the patient was
                > > unconscious. Patient was also found to have been bleeding from the
                > > nose and tear ducts. There were obvious signs of surgery in the nose
                > > above the septum, near the entrance to the sinuses.
                > >
                > > Patient regained consciousness within ten minutes after presentation.
                > > His vitals were stable, BP 155/100, which was reduced after regaining
                > > consciousness to 135/85 within ten minutes. There was no indication
                > > of trauma to any portion of the body except for noted bleeding.
                > >
                > > Patient was able to identify himself, name, the date, the name of the
                > > current president, etc., but was about five hours off on the time. He
                > > thought the time was about 6 PM. It was close to midnight.
                > >
                > > Present were his wife, Trooper (---) from Troop (--) in (----), N.Y.,
                > > Dr. (--------), his personal physician, various nursing personnel,
                > > the ER physician, Dr. (-----) and others.
                > >
                > > When conscious, patient indicated feeling weak, disoriented and with
                > > pain in the lower abdomen favoring patient's lower left quad. After
                > > patient was made stable, CAT scans of the head, dorsal
                > > and lumbar regions, along with CAT and MRI of the abdomen and
                > > kidneys. All non intrusive
                > > pictures were negative, with the exception of the bladder which
                > > showed lesions in three areas favoring the left side.
                > >
                > > A cystostoscopy of the bladder was performed indicating contusions of
                > > the lower left bladder area. A total of four such areas were found,
                > > which was apparently the reason for bleeding. The wounds were odd in
                > > that there appeared to be no apparent reason for their presence.
                > > Again, there was no indication of causative external trauma.
                > >
                > > The blood found on the patient's clothing proved recent (within two
                > > hours) profuse bleeding.
                > >
                > > Yet those areas were no longer bleeding (at the time) and should have
                > > been. This was a very curious and impossible scenario.
                > >
                > > The CAT scans and MRI's confirmed recent (healed) nasal surgery which
                > > the patient insisted he never had. As his personal physician, having
                > > only recently given the patient a complete annual physical only days
                > > before, I can testify to the fact that no such surgery had been done
                > > at that Time.
                > >
                > > A total of two cystoscopy's were performed within 48 hours, showing
                > > marked and nearly miraculous healing of the contusions in the
                > > bladder. Another cystoscopy performed within ten days of
                > > this 'incident,' indicated nearly complete healing. Very strange,
                > > indeed. Very strange.
                > >
                > > Patient was discharged from hospital during (deleted), feeling fine,
                > > with no apparent illness present.
                > >
                > > Commentary:
                > >
                > > We have never before seen such a bizarre case. I have been in
                > > practice for more than 40 years. The ER physician commented, "I
                > > haven't a clue!" No one has a clue. The State Police Trooper, who is
                > > known by and knows Patient (who is a reserve police officer) and
                > > Troop (-----) supervisors did a computer search as well as check with
                > > three troop barracks in three counties to determine if there had been
                > > an attempted car jacking or accident. There were none.
                > >
                > > This case is a first in our experience, both from the standpoint of
                > > the rapid healing (which should be impossible) as well as the lack of
                > > any indication of trauma which may have caused such bizarre injury.
                > >
                > >
                > > Dr. ____ __________, MD
                > >
                > > 3/30/01
                > >
                > > ===========================
                > >
                > > To those who do not believe, even in the possibility, consider the
                > > above. To those who refuse to believe, you have a problem worse than
                > > mine. To those who believe, think about the possibility of being
                > > skeptical. Always skeptical. It keeps the mind open to explanations
                > > other than the alien abduction theory.
                > >
                > > To me, I cannot allow myself to believe otherwise. After each
                > > regression, the memory is so real, that it must be part of my actual
                > > experience. I cannot think of any other explanation. However, what
                > > the heck do I know? There are more things in heaven and Earth ...
                > > etc.
                > > Love, peace and prayers,
                > > Jim Mortellaro
                > >
                > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
                > > --
                > > If you go to the Jeff Rense archive site at:
                > > http://www.soundwaves2000.com/rense/archives/2003/oct_index.asp
                > > You can hear Budd and Jim replaying the hypnotic regression tape of
                > > this abduction encounter. Jim is a reserve deputy and you can hear on
                > > the tape where he tried to pull his service pistol during the
                > > abduction and the aliens made him put it down.
                > > Art Greenfield
                > > http://antigray.tripod.com/
                > > More information:
                > ? http://www.booklocker.com/books/1417.html
                >
                > Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 09:36:13 -0800
                > > From: Jack Sarfatti <Sarfatti@P...>
                > > Subject: Re: U.S. Anti-Gravitic UFO Technology/Your Research
                > >
                > > >Since the latter two (2) deal w/ the touchy subject of alien
                > > >abductions,
                > > >what is your opinion of this phenomenon?
                > >
                > > I am open to that. Indeed, I may be an abductee myself. I am not sure
                > > about that. >>>>>
                > >
                > > Hi Jack,
                > > If you want I can contact my friend Dr. Jim Mortellaro who is close
                > > friends with Budd Hopkins, and see about getting you hypnotically
                > > regressed to retrieve any abduction memories.
                >
                > James Harder tried and failed.
                >
                > > What makes you think you may be an abductee?
                >
                > Read my book Destiny Matrix. It's a complex story.
                > Also http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html
                > Of course it all depends if my physics is really "The Right Stuff" or
                > not.
                > The recent discovery of "dark energy" ~ 1998 is extremely important in
                > that regard,
                >
                > Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:46:28 -0800
                > From: Jack Sarfatti <Sarfatti@...>
                > Subject: Re: Re: U.S. Anti-Gravitic UFO Technology/Your Research/
                > Sarfatti Abduction?
                >
                >
                > On Monday, January 5, 2004, at 08:57 AM, antigray@... wrote:
                >
                > ><<<Message: 5
                > ><<<Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 09:36:13 -0800
                > >From: Jack Sarfatti <Sarfatti@...>
                > >Subject: Re: U.S. Anti-Gravitic UFO Technology/Your Research
                > >
                > >>Since the latter two (2) deal w/ the touchy subject of alien
                > >>abductions,
                > >>what is your opinion of this phenomenon?
                > >
                > >I am open to that. Indeed, I may be an abductee myself. I am not sure
                > >about that. >>>>>
                > >
                > >Hi Jack,
                > >If you want I can contact my friend Dr. Jim Mortellaro who is close
                > >friends with Budd Hopkins, and see about getting you hypnotically
                > >regressed to retrieve any abduction memories.
                >
                > James Harder tried and failed.
                >
                > > What makes you think you may be an abductee?
                >
                > Read my book Destiny Matrix. It's a complex story.
                > Also http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html
                > Of course it all depends if my physics is really "The Right Stuff" or
                > not.
                > The recent discovery of "dark energy" ~ 1998 is extremely important in
                > that regard,
                >
                >
                >
                > Hi Jack,
                > I think we have a problem. I am very good at looking at the big
                > picture. After checking out your Matrix account, and quite a few other
                > things all day, I have tentatively come to a conclusion you may not
                > like. Your childhood experiences where you were told to go out on your
                > fire escape seemed like the lead-in to a typical abduction. You
                > remember getting one phone call. I read today where someone
                > interviewed your mother and she said she remembered you getting
                > several of those strange phone calls over a three week period. You
                > apparently don't remember being "taken" off the fire escape, and you
                > may or may not have had missing time. Due to how the aliens are using
                > you, there is a good chance you were only taken briefly, received an
                > implant, and were quickly returned with all memories of the abduction
                > erased. The aliens would not use you the way they use most abductees,
                > as breeding stock to breed human/alien hybrids. They have a different
                > program for humans with brilliant minds like yourself and those few
                > hundred other children they chose. As the best and the brightest, your
                > group would be destined to work in various fields where the aliens
                > wanted you to be their eyes and ears. Some of this even coincides with
                > your ideas of causes and effects being in the wrong sequence. Example:
                > Aliens show up in 2004 and do a quick survey of what people are in key
                > positions doing research and development on advanced weapons and
                > propulsion systems. They back track them all to when they were
                > impressionable kids 20 years ago in 1984. They have their computer
                > call them on the phone and entice them to go outside with a fanciful
                > story that they will be needed in 20 years and all they have to do is
                > say "yes" and go outside. Saying yes and going outside makes it a lot
                > easier to abduct you if you are in an urban area with a lot of
                > witnesses. If you had said "no," they would have had to zap you
                > unconscious and came down and get you themselves. When you went
                > outside you were probably whisked straight up to their craft by their
                > diamagnetic lifter with no fuss and muss. You may have been abducted a
                > few more times over the next three weeks in order that they could scan
                > and record your memories, so that they would have them on hand for
                > future use if they needed to use them on you as a screen memory. There
                > are several people I've heard of that went through something similar.
                > The most notable one was Col. Phil Corso, who worked in the US Army
                > Foreign Technology Division. His lifetime timeline was very important
                > to the aliens for two reasons. He was working with items of technology
                > recovered from the Roswell crash, and at one time the aliens had
                > needed him to order the base radar at White Sands to be shut off
                > because it was interfering with the navigation avionics on one of
                > their small craft that had landed, and they could not leave. Col.
                > Corso said that he thought because of his chance meeting with the
                > aliens on that craft in the desert, that they had signaled another of
                > their craft to go back in time to when he was 6 years old and abduct
                > him off of his front porch. He would have then been implanted so that
                > they could summon him to their future landing spot and get him to
                > radio back to the base command post and order the base radar to be
                > shut down, since he was the base commander. Here is where it gets
                > hairy. The implants the aliens stick in your head behind you eye and
                > ear pick up the nerve impulses of the optic nerve and auditory nerve,
                > convert it to a transmittable format and transmit the signal to the
                > aliens monitoring you. It allows them to see what you see and hear
                > what you hear. I've done experiments with an abductee who had an
                > implant that transmitted what he heard (or said, since you hear your
                > own speech). We could pick up the transmissions of his implant on his
                > telephone speaker microphone. If he would say a word, a fraction of a
                > second later the speaker would pick up a brief burst of transmission
                > from the implant. You could hear that different words sounded slightly
                > different when they were transmitted by the implant. So, you and the
                > other bright kids were "recruited" to be inadvertent spies on the
                > inside of various advanced projects. The aliens are keeping an eye on
                > us, your eye. They are not our friends, or our enemies. We are their
                > property. This whole relationship is very basic. That's why I wrote my
                > book, so we can change things for the better, to benefit them and us.
                > But then I could be wrong about you. Mull it over and let me know what
                > do you think?
                > Art
                >
                > Hi Jack,
                > > I think we have a problem. I am very good at looking at the big
                > > picture. After checking out your Matrix account, and quite a few
                > other
                > > things all day, I have tentatively come to a conclusion you may not
                > > like. Your childhood experiences where you were told to go out on
                > your
                > > fire escape seemed like the lead-in to a typical abduction.
                >
                >
                > Yes, I know. I was with at least two other kids Norman and Neal Lagatta
                > and I think also "Winki" (Al Brough) although I am not sure if Winki
                > was there.
                >
                > > You remember getting one phone call. I read today where someone
                > > interviewed your mother and she said she remembered you getting
                > > several of those strange phone calls over a three week period.
                >
                > Correct
                >
                > > You apparently don't remember being "taken" off the fire escape, and
                > > you may or may not have had missing time.
                >
                > Yes, that is possible.
                >
                > > Due to how the aliens are using you, there is a good chance you were
                > > only taken briefly, received an implant, and were quickly returned
                > > with all memories of the abduction erased. The aliens would not use
                > > you the way they use most abductees, as breeding stock to breed
                > > human/alien hybrids.
                >
                > My own theory is that I am being used, if this abduction scenario is
                > true, I do not know if it is, for "technology transfer" from ET to
                > humans. Or perhaps it is my over-active imagination? :-)
                >
                >
                > > They have a different program for humans with brilliant minds like
                > > yourself and those few hundred other children they chose. As the best
                > > and the brightest, your group would be destined to work in various
                > > fields where the aliens wanted you to be their eyes and ears.
                >
                > Exactly. That's my understanding of the "contact" and Walter Breen was
                > part it. Either that, or it's a pretty uncanny sequence of coincidences
                > over 50 years.
                >
                > > Some of this even coincides with your ideas of causes and effects
                > > being in the wrong sequence. Example: Aliens show up in 2004 and do a
                > > quick survey of what people are in key positions doing research and
                > > development on advanced weapons and propulsion systems. They back
                > > track them all to when they were impressionable kids 20 years ago in
                > > 1984. They have their computer call them on the phone and entice them
                > > to go outside with a fanciful story that they will be needed in 20
                > > years and all they have to do is say "yes" and go outside. Saying yes
                > > and going outside makes it a lot easier to abduct you if you are in
                > an
                > > urban area with a lot of witnesses. If you had said "no," they would
                > > have had to zap you unconscious and came down and get you themselves.
                > > When you went outside you were probably whisked straight up to their
                > > craft by their diamagnetic lifter with no fuss and muss. You may have
                > > been abducted a few more times over the next three weeks in order
                > that
                > > they could scan and record your memories, so that they would have
                > them
                > > on hand for future use if they needed to use them on you as a screen
                > > memory. There are several people I've heard of that went through
                > > something similar. The most notable one was Col. Phil Corso, who
                > > worked in the US Army Foreign Technology Division. His lifetime
                > > timeline was very important to the aliens for two reasons. He was
                > > working with items of technology recovered from the Roswell crash,
                > and
                > > at one time the aliens had needed him to order the base radar at
                > White
                > > Sands to be shut off because it was interfering with the navigation
                > > avionics on one of their small craft that had landed, and they could
                > > not leave. Col. Corso said that he thought because of his chance
                > > meeting with the aliens on that craft in the desert, that they had
                > > signaled another of their craft to go back in time to when he was 6
                > > years old and abduct him off of his front porch. He would have then
                > > been implanted so that they could summon him to their future landing
                > > spot and get him to radio back to the base command post and order the
                > > base radar to be shut down, since he was the base commander. Here is
                > > where it gets hairy. The implants the aliens stick in your head
                > behind
                > > you eye and ear pick up the nerve impulses of the optic nerve and
                > > auditory nerve, convert it to a transmittable format and transmit the
                > > signal to the aliens monitoring you. It allows them to see what you
                > > see and hear what you hear. I've done experiments with an abductee
                > who
                > > had an implant that transmitted what he heard (or said, since you
                > hear
                > > your own speech). We could pick up the transmissions of his implant
                > on
                > > his telephone speaker microphone. If he would say a word, a fraction
                > > of a second later the speaker would pick up a brief burst of
                > > transmission from the implant. You could hear that different words
                > > sounded slightly different when they were transmitted by the implant.
                > > So, you and t! he other bright kids were "recruited" to be
                > inadvertent
                > > spies on the inside of various advanced projects. The aliens are
                > > keeping an eye on us, your eye. They are not our friends, or our
                > > enemies. We are their property. This whole relationship is very
                > basic.
                > > That's why I wrote my book, so we can change things for the better,
                > to
                > > benefit them and us.
                > > But then I could be wrong about you. Mull it over and let me know
                > what
                > > do you think?
                > > Art
                >
                > It is quite possible. I suppose Kit Green should do a brain scan on me
                > some time?
                >
                > Wed Jan 7, 2004 2:40 pm
                > Subject: Re: [Starfleet Command] Digest Number 861
                >
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                > I remember riding in a train crossing the Alps with a Canadian PhD
                > candidate in theoretical physics. The train stopped, we weren't
                > paying attention, and by the time we realized we needed to get off
                > and got down the corridor with our bulky back packs, the train
                > started moving. He suggested we jump, considering that if we did
                > not, we would lose 1 day in our travel back to Paris.
                >
                > Well I jumped first and was badly injured with lacerations requiring
                > minor stitches. He hesitated, but then jumped. Unfortunately the
                > train had picked up speed and he was more severly injured with a
                > broken collar bone and a severed ear.
                >
                > The point is this brillant guy, a physicist no doubt, had forgotten
                > everything about basic momentum with his mind high in the sky.
                >
                > The nurses in Gap, France thought we were typical stupid Americans:-)
                >
                > So what is the point of the story? Simple. Life has a kind of
                > magneticism where we are attracted to like people, or sometimes to
                > opposites as the saying goes. Perhaps Jack it's all very normal down
                > to earth "human physics". After all you are the first to admit that
                > your approach is derived out of ordinary 1920's-1950's theory. UFO's
                > does have a romanticism and it makes for good marketing, at least to
                > a fringe population.
                >
                > I would not at all doubt that cold war intrigue was at play.
                >
                > Wed Jan 7, 2004 5:47 pm
                > Subject: Re: [Starfleet Command] Digest Number 861
                >
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                > [Live College Audio]
                > No there is IMHO no ordinary explanation for the uncanny string of
                > events
                > on my world line for past 50 years. Saul-Paul is aware of a lot of it
                > from
                > first-hand experiences. So are others.
                > Wed Jan 7, 2004 5:48 pm
                > Subject: Re: Jack an Abductee?/ Now What?
                >
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                > In a message dated 1/7/04 1:31:10 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
                > SarfattiScienceSeminar@yahoogroups.com writes:
                > Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 21:23:14 -0800
                > From: Jack Sarfatti <Sarfatti@...>
                > Subject: Re: Digest Number 861
                >
                >
                > On Tuesday, January 6, 2004, at 03:25 PM, antigray@... wrote:
                >
                > >In a message dated 1/6/04 3:09:12 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
                > >SarfattiScienceSeminar@yahoogroups.com writes:
                > >
                > >>Hi Jack,
                > >>If you want I can contact my friend Dr. Jim Mortellaro who is close
                > >>friends with Budd Hopkins, and see about getting you hypnotically
                > >>regressed to retrieve any abduction memories.
                > >
                > >James Harder tried and failed.
                > >
                > >> What makes you think you may be an abductee?
                > >
                > >Read my book Destiny Matrix. It's a complex story.
                > >Also http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html
                > >Of course it all depends if my physics is really "The Right Stuff" or
                > >not.
                > >The recent discovery of "dark energy" ~ 1998 is extremely important
                > >in
                > >that regard,
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >Hi Jack,
                > >I think we have a problem. I am very good at looking at the big
                > >picture. After checking out your Matrix account, and quite a few other
                > >things all day, I have tentatively come to a conclusion you may not
                > >like. Your childhood experiences where you were told to go out on your
                > >fire escape seemed like the lead-in to a typical abduction.
                >
                >
                > Yes, I know. I was with at least two other kids Norman and Neal Lagatta
                > and I think also "Winki" (Al Brough) although I am not sure if Winki
                > was there.
                >
                > >You remember getting one phone call. I read today where someone
                > >interviewed your mother and she said she remembered you getting
                > >several of those strange phone calls over a three week period.
                >
                > Correct
                >
                > >You apparently don't remember being "taken" off the fire escape, and
                > >you may or may not have had missing time.
                >
                > Yes, that is possible.
                >
                > > Due to how the aliens are using you, there is a good chance you were
                > >only taken briefly, received an implant, and were quickly returned
                > >with all memories of the abduction erased. The aliens would not use
                > >you the way they use most abductees, as breeding stock to breed
                > >human/alien hybrids.
                >
                > My own theory is that I am being used, if this abduction scenario is
                > true, I do not know if it is, for "technology transfer" from ET to
                > humans. Or perhaps it is my over-active imagination? :-)
                >
                > Hi Jack,
                > It is not a technology transfer. It is damage control to make sure we
                > don't get to a point quantitatively and qualitatively where the
                > technology recovered and back-engineered from their recovered craft
                > will come back to haunt them.
                > Stalin once said, "Quantity has a quality all its own." So, if our
                > military ever got sufficient numbers of advanced space-going warcraft,
                > we would present an imminent threat to the alien's continued
                > operations. By using you and the other strategically placed bright
                > kids, they could keep a close watch on our progress toward becoming
                > dangerous to them.
                > I take it from your open posting about things on the Internet that you
                > are not presently employed where maintaining a security clearance is a
                > big issue. Do you think you still have functioning implants in you? Do
                > you have any strange effects on TVs, radios, electric-eye operated
                > streetlights, or computers when you are near them? If so, that is
                > usually caused by an implant. Can you or any of the other "chosen"
                > bright kids close your eyes and see detailed blueprints of advanced
                > technology equipment? If you can, you were given one of the aliens
                > master control implants that allows you to access their tech.
                > database. Tesla was inadvertently given one of those during an
                > abduction. If you read his autobiography, it is veeeery obvious. It is
                > at:
                > http://www.olypen.com/harmon/tesla.htm
                >
                > If you or any of your chosen friends have one of those interface type
                > implants, let me know. We can put it to very good use for some
                > clandestine alien technology transfer. You could be "inventing" more
                > stuff than Tesla.
                > More info below.
                >
                > >They have a different program for humans with brilliant minds like
                > >yourself and those few hundred other children they chose. As the best
                > >and the brightest, your group would be destined to work in various
                > >fields where the aliens wanted you to be their eyes and ears.
                >
                > Exactly. That's my understanding of the "contact" and Walter Breen was
                > part it. Either that, or it's a pretty uncanny sequence of coincidences
                > over 50 years.
                >
                > >Some of this even coincides with your ideas of causes and effects
                > >being in the wrong sequence. Example: Aliens show up in 2004 and do a
                > >quick survey of what people are in key positions doing research and
                > >development on advanced weapons and propulsion systems. They back
                > >track them all to when they were impressionable kids 20 years ago in
                > >1984. They have their computer call them on the phone and entice them
                > >to go outside with a fanciful story that they will be needed in 20
                > >years and all they have to do is say "yes" and go outside. Saying yes
                > >and going outside makes it a lot easier to abduct you if you are in an
                > >urban area with a lot of witnesses. If you had said "no," they would
                > >have had to zap you unconscious and came down and get you themselves.
                > >When you went outside you were probably whisked straight up to their
                > >craft by their diamagnetic lifter with no fuss and muss. You may have
                > >been abducted a few more times over the next three weeks in order that
                > >they could scan and record your memories, so that they would have them
                > >on hand for future use if they needed to use them on you as a screen
                > >memory. There are several people I've heard of that went through
                > >something similar. The most notable one was Col. Phil Corso, who
                > >worked in the US Army Foreign Technology Division. His lifetime
                > >timeline was very important to the aliens for two reasons. He was
                > >working with items of technology recovered from the Roswell crash, and
                > >at one time the aliens had needed him to order the base radar at White
                > >Sands to be shut off because it was interfering with the navigation
                > >avionics on one of their small craft that had landed, and they could
                > >not leave. Col. Corso said that he thought because of his chance
                > >meeting with the aliens on that craft in the desert, that they had
                > >signaled another of their craft to go back in time to when he was 6
                > >years old and abduct him off of his front porch. He would have then
                > >been implanted so that they could summon him to their future landing
                > >spot and get him to radio back to the base command post and order the
                > >base radar to be shut down, since he was the base commander. Here is
                > >where it gets hairy. The implants the aliens stick in your head behind
                > >you eye and ear pick up the nerve impulses of the optic nerve and
                > >auditory nerve, convert it to a transmittable format and transmit the
                > >signal to the aliens monitoring you. It allows them to see what you
                > >see and hear what you hear. I've done experiments with an abductee who
                > >had an implant that transmitted what he heard (or said, since you hear
                > >your own speech). We could pick up the transmissions of his implant on
                > >his telephone speaker microphone. If he would say a word, a fraction
                > >of a second later the speaker would pick up a brief burst of
                > >transmission from the implant. You could hear that different words
                > >sounded slightly different when they were transmitted by the implant.
                > >So, you and t! he other bright kids were "recruited" to be inadvertent
                > >spies on the inside of various advanced projects. The aliens are
                > >keeping an eye on us, your eye. They are not our friends, or our
                > >enemies. We are their property. This whole relationship is very basic.
                > >That's why I wrote my book, so we can change things for the better, to
                > >benefit them and us.
                > >But then I could be wrong about you. Mull it over and let me know what
                > >do you think?
                > >Art
                >
                > It is quite possible. I suppose Kit Green should do a brain scan on me
                > some time?
                >
                > There are other simpler ways to check for implants. Here is a lot of
                > info about implant's effects, and how to locate them, from a post of
                > mine from the group I own.
                > From: antigray@...
                > Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 10:02 am
                > Subject: Whitley Is A Slider
                > Hi Group,
                > Whitley Strieber was interviewed by Art Bell on his radio show a few
                > nights
                > ago. Whitley said that when he gets emotionally upset, his implant
                > that is in
                > his head behind his ear will get hot to the point of being painful and
                > will
                > cause street lights to go out as he drives or walks by them. If you are
                > unfamiliar with this phenomena, it is quite common among abductees
                > with alien
                > implants in their bodies. These people are called "sliders." They
                > cause "street light
                > interference (SLI)." Their implants are putting out radio signals that
                > are so
                > strong that they will trigger the electric eyes on street lights at
                > night,
                > fooling the device into thinking it is daylight out and shutting off
                > the light.
                > These people also cause interference on electronic equipment. I've
                > posted in
                > detail about this before. Here is the post:
                > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns/
                >
                > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns/
                > post?protectID=24307111\40092\
                > 29209169097203043229208098145211
                > Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 6:53 pm
                > Subject: Are You a SLIder?
                >
                > Hi Group,
                > Are you a SLIder? SLI stands for Street Light Interference. It is
                > caused by
                > implants.
                > Here is what I posted a while back about the phenomena at:
                > http://www.amasci.com/weird/unusual/zap.html
                > The syndrome most of the posters here talk about is shared by three
                > abductees
                > I know personally and have written about in my book. What these three
                > have
                > been experiencing is caused by radio frequency energy put out by the
                > implants
                > that were put into them by the aliens when they were abducted. To
                > prove that
                > this energy is coming from specific points in your body there is a
                > cheap
                > implant detector that can pinpoint exactly where they are in your
                > body. Get a
                > Sony Walkman or other small portable radio. Turn it on the AM band
                > between
                > stations. Pass it over your arms, legs, and head mainly. When it gets
                > near
                > the implants you will get a blast of static that will almost blow out
                > the
                > speakers, even if the volume is turned down. I have personally done
                > this test
                > on 2 of the abductees. I located one implant in one persons foot, and
                > another
                > in the right sinus cavity in the skull of the other person. Some
                > abductees
                > have as many as 6 implants in them. The aliens use the implants
                > primarily to
                > monitor your physical condition and as a locator transponder so they
                > know
                > where you are. There are 5 other things they use them for. It is
                > sending
                > telemetry continuously so that they can monitor your physical health
                > and
                > emotional state. If you would like to talk to one of the people I know
                > who
                > has this same syndrome, contact Brynne at the Yahoo Mars South Pole
                > Returns
                > Forum at:
                > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns
                > She recently was asked to be a founder of the club. If you have any
                > questions
                > ask me or her. You may be in for a shock. (No joke intended.) I
                > respect this
                > forum staff's intent to study this from a scientific standpoint and
                > kick
                > alien "theories" to the other site they listed, but the people I have
                > met and
                > examined and interviewed are all long term multiple abductees. If it
                > quacks
                > like a duck, it probably is a duck. An abductee I am in touch with in
                > Arizona
                > has provided me with X-rays showing her implant in her jaw. It has been
                > malfunctioning and causing her all manner of problems. Soon she is
                > scheduled
                > to have it surgically removed by Dr. Roger Leir in California. I would
                > love
                > to report all the fun we have had experimenting with this particular
                > implant
                > but it would take far too long. It takes up nearly an entire chapter
                > in my
                > book. We were able to learn a lot about implants from the things we
                > did. Some
                > of the information we developed is not in the mainstream of
                > information about
                > implants. I have most of the information posted in forums we belong to
                > but I
                > don't want to post other forum addresses here since a lot of places
                > don't
                > like you doing that. They think you are trying to spam to get members
                > elsewhere, etc. If you want additional info Email me and I'll Email it
                > back
                > to you. I hope this helps you all.
                > Antigray
                > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns/
                > post?protectID=24307111\40092\
                > 29209169097203043229208098145211
                > Cocoa, FL USA - Friday, February 02, 2001 at 08:26:29 (PST)
                >
                > The following is from the other abductee I know:
                > On reading the posts in here, i see that part of my story has been
                > noted by
                > Art Greenfield, "antigray"....he has included me in his book that is
                > being
                > printed at this time.......i too am electrical....man is it
                > intense....i
                > notice the streetlights too, but that may be coincidence...mainly I zap
                > people at work....more so when i am stressed....I was handing a salt
                > shaker
                > to one of my coworkers last month and i zapped her with a charge that
                > jumped
                > about 2 inches!!!!!!.....I sit on a chair with rubber wheels and arc
                > with my
                > computer keyboard frequently... shorted one out last year..I have
                > shorted out
                > 2 electric blankets at home as well...i had a rewritable CD on the
                > shelf above
                > my computer (in a locked box) which was erased (my head is near it
                > when I
                > play at the computer)...all this started about 10 years ago, after i
                > moved into my house....it appeared to be haunted, but soon was
                > apparent that it was another life
                > form...yes i had many encounters...but the electrical phenomena began
                > after I
                > was hit in the face by a ball of electricity from my computer
                > monitor....no I
                > wasn't harmed, only my hand was numb where it exited my body.....just
                > before that event, i noted a small Light inside the floppy drive back
                > in the left
                > rear corner....LOOK IN THERE GUYS, THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN.....
                > appears that I have several "alien implants" in my face as well as
                > other
                > points in my body....we have been doing some experiments,....very
                > fascinating....as for Dr. Roger Leir, we are in contact but he hasn't
                > called
                > me to come down for removal yet....and yes, someday I have a book to
                > be written about all this............ thank you for the chance to
                > speak......
                > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns/
                > post?protectID=12517623\41501\
                > 58116025038109248249187177143238197061239152006048067
                >
                > windancer@theriver.c\
                > Claypool, AZ USA - Sunday, February 25, 2001 at 10:10:41 (PST)
                >
                > Also check out:
                > http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/sli.html
                > http://www.geocities.com/eel_411/sli101/
                > http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9804/21/electric.girl/
                >
                > http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa012400a.htm?once=true&
                >
                > Do streetlights suddenly go out when you pass beneath
                > them? Do watches or credit cards stop working in
                > your possession? Perhaps you are a SLIder.
                >
                > A reader writes:
                >
                > Around five years ago, I have noticed that at times
                > while I am driving down the road at night a street light will go
                > out as I am passing below it. It happens frequently
                > and seems to be happening more.
                > It has been giving me the creeps. If it happened only
                > once or on very rare occasions, I don't think I would have
                > given it a thought. However, it happens about once or
                > twice a week. Could it be some electronic thing or could
                > it be something less explainable?
                >
                > The phenomenon is known as street lamp interference,
                > or SLI, and it possibly is a psychic event that is just
                > beginning to be recognized and studied. Like most
                > phenomena of this type, the evidence is almost exclusively
                > anecdotal. I have received several stories like the
                > one above from readers.
                >
                > Typically, a person who has this effect on
                > streetlights - also known as a SLIder - finds that the light switches
                > on or off when he or she walks or drives beneath it.
                > Obviously, this could happen occasionally by chance with
                > a faulty streetlight (you've probably noticed that
                > it's happened to you once in a while), but SLIders claim that it
                > happens to them on a regular basis. It doesn't happen
                > every time with every streetlight, but it occurs often
                > enough to make these people suspect that something
                > unusual is going on.
                >
                > Very often, SLIders also report that they tend to
                > have an odd effect on other electronic devices. In letters I've
                > received, these people claim such effects as:
                > Appliances such as lamps and TVs go on and off
                > without being touched.
                > Light bulbs constantly blow when the SLIder tries to
                > turn them off or on.
                > Volume levels change on TVs, radios, and CD players.
                > Watches stop working.
                > Children's electronic toys start by themselves when
                > the SLIder is present.
                > Credit cards and other magnetically encoded cards are
                > damaged or erased when in their possession.
                > What's the Cause?
                > Any attempt to pinpoint a cause for SLI at this point
                > would be mere speculation without a thorough scientific
                > investigation. The problem with such investigations,
                > as with many forms of psychic phenomena, is that they
                > are very difficult to reproduce in a laboratory. They
                > seem to happen spontaneously without the deliberate
                > intention of the SLIder. In fact, the SLIder,
                > according to some informal tests, are usually unable to create the
                > effect on demand.
                >
                > A reasonable speculation for the effect, if it is a
                > real one, might have something to do with the electronic
                > impulses of the brain. All of our thoughts and
                > movements are the result of electrical impulses that the brain
                > generates. At present it is known that these
                > measurable impulses only have an effect within an individual's
                > body, but is it possible that they could have an
                > effect outside the body - a kind of remote control?
                >
                > Current Results
                >
                > Ongoing research at the Princeton Engineering
                > Anomalies Research (PEAR) lab is suggesting that the
                > subconscious can indeed affect electronic devices.
                > Subjects are able to influence the random generations of a
                > computer far more than would occur merely by chance.
                > This research - and research being conducted at other
                > laboratories around the world - are beginning to
                > reveal, in scientific terms, the reality of such psychic
                > phenomena as ESP, telekinesis and soon, perhaps, SLI.
                >
                > Although the SLI effect is not a conscious one, some
                > SLIders report that when it does occur, they often are in
                > an extreme emotional state. A state of anger or
                > stress is often cited as the "cause." SLIder Debbie Wolf, a
                > British barmaid, told CNN, "When it happens is when
                > I'm stressed about something. Not really maniacally
                > stressed, just when I'm really mulching something
                > over, really chewing something over in my head, and then it
                > happens."
                >
                > Could it all be just coincidence, however? David
                > Barlow, a graduate student of physics and astrophysics,
                > suspects that the phenomenon might be attributed to
                > people seeing patterns in "random noise." "It is unlikely
                > that a light will turn itself on when you walk past
                > it," he says, "so it is a shock when it happens. If this should
                > happen a few times consecutively, then it appears
                > some mechanism is at work."
                > -------courtesy of http://www.worldofthestrange.com
                >
                > I cover this topic and a lot more in my new book. It is available
                > online
                > through Booklocker.com at:
                > http://www.booklocker.com/books/1417.html
                >
                > If you have any questions please ask.
                > Thanks,
                > Art
                >
                >
                > Hi Jack,
                > > It is not a technology transfer. It is damage control to make sure we
                > > don't get to a point quantitatively and qualitatively where the
                > > technology recovered and back-engineered from their recovered craft
                > > will come back to haunt them.
                >
                > In that case, they lost. The Cat is out of The Box and "It's alive,
                > Igor! It's alive!" "Young Frankenstein" Mel Brooks
                >
                > > Stalin once said, "Quantity has a quality all its own." So, if our
                > > military ever got sufficient numbers of advanced space-going
                > warcraft,
                > > we would present an imminent threat to the alien's continue<br/><br/>(Message over 64 KB, truncated)
              • Catherine Mooney
                My dear Janet, we were not there. We have no idea of the reasoning they did this. I feel the same way but, if the whole of mankind was in jepordy of it s
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                  My dear Janet, we were not there. We have no idea of the reasoning they did this. I feel the same way but, if the whole of mankind was in jepordy of it's existance what would you chose? Life death and or future nonexsistance.Mybe they had no choice at that point.Maybe they could not play mother may I.They just had to make a discision.
                  Janet with the populas the way it is right now. It does not look like it hurt it none. The only thing I pity is the ones they took that were still alive.That is what I would be angry about.Poor things.What they went through before they died.The horror........

                  Love , Cheri


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