Hi Ms. Kitty,
I have been catching up on my reading of posts here and I notice that
you have a healthy skepticism. I have always had a respect for the
sciences and have also had the idea that I need proof to believe
things. Direct, experiential evidence and knowledge. And I have
actually experienced proof of many paranormal things, enough so that
I am now in agreement with that quote from Shakespeare (I think) that
goes something like "There are more things under heaven and earth,
Horatio, than you can possibly imagine.". Saying this, I am still in
need of proof to believe anything,- my mother always said to
me 'Believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see."
although I believe she was talking about gossip.
Although I have posted these things before, it was early on in the
history of the forum and new members might be interested. Here is a
condensed list of some of my direct experiences.
LIFE AFTER DEATH: When I was 12, I went on a 6 wk. trip with my
maternal grandmother. During the course of our travels, she told me
about the night her mother died. My grandmother eloped when she was
16, and my great-grandmother was hurt and disapproved of the
marriage. As a consequence my fairly wealthy great-grandmother
disinherited my grandmother and wouldn't have anything to do with
My grandmother hadn't seen her for over 30 yrs., when one night she
awoke in her own bed to find her mother standing at the bottom of her
bed. She got up and talked to her mother for about 1/2 an hr. as her
mother apologized to her for the decision to disinherit. She told her
that she was so very sorry and had always loved her and wished that
she had met her grandghildren (Grandma was an only child). She said
she had let her ego get in the way of proper living. This was just
before WWII and they lived 1000 miles apart. My grandmother got word
the next day that her mother had passed on at the exact moment that
she arrived in Grandma's bedroom. She told me that she knew it before
anyone had told her.
I, being 12, said: "That's really neat, Grandma. Will you come and
talk to me when you die?"
My grandmother thought about it and finally said: "Yes!". I did not
really think about it much (if at all) until one night, years later,
I was away at university in my dorm room studying with my roommate.
Crystal clear and sharp, I heard someone call my name inside my head.
Since my roommate was the only one there, I answered: "What?"
She freaked out, insisted she had not said anything, and that I was
scaring her. It was at that moment that I KNEW (as opposed to thought
it might be possible) that my grandmother had died.
REINCARNATION: I'll try and make these stories shorter. Personal
memory(?) or vivid dream. This felt like it was happenning. I am
standing in a closet with a cloth door, hiding in abject terror,
trying not to breathe too loud, not moving an inch, listening. The
drape is suddenly swept aside, and I am staring into the eyes of a
person that I recognized wearing a Nazi SS uniform. I had grown up
with this person, and went to school with him. He grabbed me roughly
and made abusive, animalistic comments to and about me. I was marched
off, thinking sad thought about what the war had done to him as well
as me. I was shot several days later. I recognized him in the eyes of
a good friend of mine, who held a strange attraction for me, as I am
18 yrs older than him. The attraction started with a jolt of
recognition, and the friendship has lasted for 14 yrs. (we got over
the attraction thing- not feasible).
2nd. story: My next door neighbor showed me a video of her husband
during a past-life regression. He described his past life also during
WWII. He was french and a member of the underground resistance. He
lived on a houseboat on the Seine R. in Paris with his wife and 3
children. He was betrayed by an associate to the Germans. This person
came to him in the night (under German orders)while he was asleep and
slit his throat. At this point in the narrative on the tape, his
throat turned such a deep red as to look like blood, and you could
see the blood dripping down his throat. He was in such distress, that
the therapist had to fast forward him out of the situation. He then
described how his spirit was not at at rest and stayed around the
houseboat and watched his wife and children starve to death. He
recpognizes the children as his own children in this life. The
assassin, he recognizes as his best friend. This was a compelling
UFO's: I was 19, home to L.I., NY, for the summer from school. I went
over to a friends' house for a visit. Upon leaving at about 10:30-
11:00pm, I paused with my hand on the handle of my car door. I didn't
know why, but I looked up at the sky and kept looking until I saw
seven "stars" start to circle around each other- This was
before "close encounters". The family that I was visiting came out of
the house to ask me what was the matter. I pointed out the circling
stars and they ran back into the house, and locked the doors. I
continued to watch. When my attention refocused on the 'stars', the
central one pulsed very brightly, and the rest of them lined up into
a line and shot off to the right and winked out. It was a 5 min.
drive to my house. I arrived home at 2:00am. I have no other memories
of the intervening time. There are more UFO stories- lack of time.
CLAIRVOYANCE- Vision:When my daughter was about 2 we got a new German
Shepperd puppy. She was only about 10 wks old, and we wanted to go
out for breakfast on a Sun. morn. I let my husband tie her up while I
got our daughter ready. Off we went, and had a nice leisurely
breakfast with friends for about 2 hrs.. When we arrived home, the
puppy had gone. Apparently my husband only tied her to her flea
collar, which was not strong enough to hold her. I immediately got
back in the car and started driving around in the car looking for
her. After about 20 mins of driving through the local residential
area, I saw her frolicing in front of a house. When I pulled up to
the house, I couldn't see her anymore, but I went up and rang the
I explained my situation to the man who answered the door. He rather
belligerently asked me again what had made me ring his door. I told
him again that I had seen her on the front lawn, but she seemed to
have disappeared when I pulled up. He finally admitted that he had
seen her, and that he had given her to his girlfriend. He had taken
her there- on the other side of the city- about an hour ago. He said
he had just gotten back. He couldn't believe that I had just seen
her, and he went to get her back from his girlfriend - saying that
the puppy definitely belonged with me.
I have had experiences with angels, one with transcendence,
hermaphrodite aliens with humanoid bodies but with lion-like facial
features, being able to sit up in bed with my eyes closed and look
around the room accurately, sleep-paralysis, clairaudience, and
possibly even remote-viewing, though I am not sure of that one. Most
of these experiences were only 1 or 2x's occurrances. However, the
actual direct experience has made me know that there is more to our
existance that we really understand. Without these direct
experiences, I would have a hard time believing. I would be skeptical
too. Part of me is still having a hard time believing that what I
have experienced can be experienced at will- that these are not just
fluke occurrances. I think that is why I am having such a hard time
expanding my consciousness- or maybe I am holding expectations of
events, and need to just let things happen with no expectations.
There is a world of difference between knowing and believeing. I need
to know. I suspect that you do to. I don't remember consciously
deciding to try to experience paranormal things. I think my
grandmother opened my mind to be able to experience paranormal things
at an early age. And with each experience I was focused on one thing
only- not letting random thoughts clog up my mine, i.e. looking for
dog, studying, finding my son, etc. With the exception of my past
life experience, for that one I was directly trying to see a past
Keep on searching for the truth of things and keep your mind open to
the experience. You will know for yourself, then.
ps. Karen, keep on posting! I read all posts eventually, but I don't
seem to answer many.
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, MsKitty <mskitty12311@y...>
> --- Stephen Calkins <ecstacy2@e...> wrote:
> > HI MsKitty,
> > The question I asked was designed to get you to
> > look at how being
> > born into your specific family may have served some
> > positive purpose
> > for your spiritual growth and or experience.
> This is typical of what New Agers *always* say,
> Stephen, and there is so much in life that mitagates
> against such a silly notion of "choosing" one's family
> to be born into!
> > What > did having your > specific family allow you
> to achieve, or inspire > you to do in response
> > to its situation?'
> A resounding NO! Believing in such nonsense of
> "choosing" one's family only amounts to a lot of
> circular thinking, not to mention total Life
> confusion, to the person who is asked such a question.
> I can't express how ridiculous a notion it is!
> So the other night I was watching some documentary
> about medical abnormalities during birth. They showed
> a new-born baby with two heads. The second head was
> connected to a torso, no arms, legs, genitals. I think
> it was said the second head's brain was either
> functioning or was brain dead. The connected normal
> baby's brain was functioning.
> Now a decision had to be made, obviously, to
> disconnect the two babies. One of them would die
> during the operation. Who to choose to live? Of
> course the normal baby.
> So tell me: Did the head with the stum "choose" to be
> born into the family? Did she or he "choose" to be
> born a stump with a head? If so, to what purpose? What
> life "lessons" did the stump with the head "learn"
> after having been born? Was the stump and head capable
> of a satisfaction that it had just worked out some
> karma from a previous life by hoping like hell the
> doctors would disconnect the two babies and that it,
> the stump with the head, should die, because this
> would allow her or he to have worked out karma or some
> life "lesson"?
> If you are going to tell me, that on some "spiritual
> plane" that stump with a head "knew" it worked out a
> karma or learned some life "lesson", I say you keep
> thinking that way. I will know that you are not in
> possession of any Truth. (At least on that score of
> "choosing", anyway. And if you believe one lie, odds
> are you are in error over a lot more.)
> One of the worst mistakes anyone can make, who is
> seeking Truth, is to automatically "buy into" other
> people's ideas, New Age notions, spiritual belief
> systems, without thinking further and at least
> comparing these ideas to reality, insofar as is
> You had expressed 'disbelief'
> > concerning the
> > propriety of having chosen to be born into your
> > family, and the
> > question was designed to get you to see how that my
> > have been in some
> > way positive for your life. Love, Steve
> > P.S. Yes psychologists might ask this, etc. My
> > purpose was to see what
> > positive effects you might find from having your
> > specific family. (I am
> > not sure whether your disbelief about having chosen
> > your family is due
> > to your family not being one that you like very
> > much, or whether this
> > disbelief is because you don't belief it is possible
> > to choose ones
> > parents. O.K. Hope this is clearer. Love, Steve
> > On Tuesday, November 1, 2005, at 11:40 AM, MsKitty
> > wrote:
> > > > Ask yourself this question and see what come
> > > > to you. Much Love,
> > > > Steve
> > >
> > > Well, I just did, Steve, and the answer that "came
> > to
> > > me" is that the question the channel asked (below)
> > is
> > > really nothing particularly unique.
> > >
> > > Any good psychologist or psychoanalyst would ask
> > the
> > > same. Or any spiritual guider (even a priest)
> > would
> > > ask the same also. ("How does this or that serve
> > > you?")
> > >
> > > I'm trying my best to keep an open mind about
> > > channels. I suppose they are no different than
> > > invisible "spirit guides" that some wiccans claim
> > they
> > > have. From what I can see of the world of
> > channeling,
> > > however, I personally wouldn't buy into it. I see
> > some
> > > flaws. Big flaws.
> > >
> > > Like JZ Knight charging $150 just to see her for a
> > > 2-day talk. Though "beings" like Ramtha and others
> > > claim no interest in money, Knight seems to have a
> > > saavy financial channel that helps her pay the
> > bills.
> > >
> > > Oh well. My mind's still open though.
> > >
> > > MsKitty
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
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