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  • Deon Binneman
    Ah - Hah ! Finally people are starting to wake up! Every country or influential group has their own PROPOGANDA vehicles in place. If you want to get to be
    Message 1 of 32 , Jun 19, 2007
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      Ah - Hah !



      Finally people are starting to wake up! Every country or influential group
      has their own PROPOGANDA vehicles in place.



      If you want to get to be known as an international - or global specialist
      you need to:



      - 1. First go wide

      - 2. Then go specific



      Perhaps you all need to read the book: "Teaching as a Subversive Activity"
      by Postman & Gartner. In this book they speak about the necessity of having
      an in-built "crap detector".



      As a professional skilled in four areas - one of them PR - I guess I am in
      process of developing that.



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      From: prbytes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:prbytes@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
      Powers, Christopher
      Sent: 19 June 2007 09:01 PM
      To: prbytes@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: RE: You only get a sliver of news in the US RE: [prbytes] Bad News
      Sells



      Yes, can we please get the right-wingers from trying to push their
      agenda
      on the rest of us and just stick to PR topics? I've seen some of the
      same
      folks pushing their non-PR views now nearly ruin a PR group several
      years
      back. Knock it off.


      Christopher Powers
      ________________________________

      From: prbytes@yahoogroups <mailto:prbytes%40yahoogroups.com> .com
      [mailto:prbytes@yahoogroups <mailto:prbytes%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
      Behalf
      Of Michael Driehorst
      Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 6:42 AM
      To: prbytes@yahoogroups <mailto:prbytes%40yahoogroups.com> .com
      Subject: Re: You only get a sliver of news in the US RE: [prbytes] Bad
      News Sells

      First, Joan's point about "You live in the US where access to
      international news is extremely limited." is either mis-worded,
      unclear or off base.

      That point is only true if people look to only US-based sources for
      news. With the internet, we have unlimited ACCESS. So, access is not
      the point. Pepole in the U.S. and most everywhere can look for other
      opinions and multiple legit versions of news stories if they only look.

      And, yes, taking the extra effort is the hardest part.

      Secondly, unless I've missed it, is there a PR or other marketing
      communications view to this entire thread?

      If I want political and other discussions, there are enough other
      boards to visit. It's not what is expected when joining this group.
      Granted, I'm only one member, but if this keeps up, the group will
      have one less member.

      -- Mike

      Mike Driehorst
      Messaging Strategist

      H A N S O N I N C .
      1625 Indian Wood Circle
      Maumee, Ohio 43537 U.S.A.

      AIM: MikeDatHanson
      Y!IM: miked918

      --- In prbytes@yahoogroups <mailto:prbytes%40yahoogroups.com> .com
      <mailto:prbytes%40yahoogroups.com> ,
      "Joan Weinberg" <jow@...> wrote:
      >
      > Better question: Do you happen to have a client who's pushing this
      agenda?
      >
      > You live in the US where access to international news is extremely
      limited.
      > Did you hear that a piece of a glacier the size of Manhattan cracked
      off?
      > Hmmm, I wonder why this happened. And get this: All maps that
      include the
      > Arctic Circle will now have to be redrawn.
      >
      > Polar bears? Who needs them anyway? It's estimated they'll be extinct
      in
      > 20-100 years. So take your kids to see them in the zoo and they can
      tell
      > their grand kids some day that someone in the family actually saw one
      of
      > these animals before it became extinct.
      >
      > I just about gave up on CNN (I was watching the European and Asian
      editions)
      > and now watch France 24:
      >
      http://www.france24
      <http://www.france24.com/france24Public/en/archives/news/2007/January/sci>
      .com/france24Public/en/archives/news/2007/January/sci
      ence
      <http://www.france24
      <http://www.france24.com/france24Public/en/archives/news/2007/January/sc>
      .com/france24Public/en/archives/news/2007/January/sc
      ience>
      > /20070129-report-global-warming.html
      >
      > Instead of reading the New York Times (you think you're getting
      exposure to
      > what's going on) I suggest the International Herald Trib. It
      includes the
      > NYT but is more expansive in its coverage. You'll come to learn that
      the
      > automotive industry (ah, one of your clients) might have an agenda
      that
      > threatens the same Earth that you and your family are standing on
      and the
      > air that you and your family are breathing.
      >
      > And yes, I put my money where my mouth is. There are certain clients I
      > wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole. (And the next time I get
      married, would
      > someone please remind me not to marry a head-in-the-sand Republican?!)
      >
      > Joan :)
      >
      > Joan Weinberg
      > The Weinberg Group/
      > Free World-wide PR Firm Search Services
      > Representing 150+ Tech, Life Sci,
      > Corporate and Consumer PR Firms
      > EMEA . US . Asia-Pacific
      > Tel: +972-3-575-5448
      > Fax: +972-3-575-5449
      > Mobile: +972-522-202-484
      > e: <mailto:jow@...> jow@...
      > Skype: JoanW1
      >
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    • David P. Dillard
      Google is an invaluable resource, but is it the most effective tool for serious information needs of professional users? In a post in which I combine an
      Message 32 of 32 , Jun 22, 2007
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        Google is an invaluable resource, but is it the most effective tool for
        serious information needs of professional users? In a post in which I
        combine an announcement of the sale by ABC/CLIO of the databases America
        History and Life and Historical Abstracts, the announcement is combined
        with some discussion of the importance of bibliographic databases in
        meeting the information needs of researchers, teachers, professionals and
        students. Indeed since public libraries in many states provide access to
        a variety of bibliographic databases either at the library or at home on
        the computer via the internet with the use of the borrower's card number
        and in some cases a PIN as well. The discussion continued and I posted
        subsequently additional content regarding this topic.

        For those interested to some serious thought material regarding the
        answer to this question:

        Sure - today there are many sources. Educated persons rely on a variety,
        but
        > WHICH?

        Please have a look at these posts and at the links provided in these
        posts.


        DATABASES :
        HISTORY: MEDIEVAL :
        DATABASE SEARCH TECHNIQUE:
        Using Databases to do Medieval History Research
        <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Net-Gold/message/18740>


        DATABASES: HISTORY :
        NEWS :
        CORPORATE ACQUISITIONS:
        ABC/CLIO History Databases Sold to EBSCO
        <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Net-Gold/message/18701>


        DATABASE: EVALUATION :
        INFORMATION AND DATA ACCURACY :
        QUALITY CONTROL:
        INFORMATION: SCIENCE:
        On Hunting Mammoths and Measuring Data Quality
        <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Net-Gold/message/18690>


        DATABASES :
        UNITED STATES: GOVERNMENT: DOCUMENTS:
        Library Of Unified Information Sources (LOUIS)
        <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Net-Gold/message/18686>


        HUMANITIES: RESOURCES :
        ART: RESOURCES :
        MUSIC: RESOURCES :
        EDUCATION: RESOURCES :
        NEWS: RESOURCES:
        Some Del.icio.us Collections of Links from the Free Library of
        Philadelphia
        <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Net-Gold/message/18574>


        DATABASES ARCHIVES AND PRIMARY SOURCE MATERIAL :
        DATABASES BIOGRAPHY :
        BIOGRAPHY: RESOURCES:
        In the First Person FROM Alexander Street Press
        <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Net-Gold/message/18507>


        PUBLIC RELATIONS: RESOURCES :
        DATABASES: BUSINESS ECONOMICS AND INDUSTRY :
        STATISTICS:
        PR Management DataSource (PRMD)
        <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Net-Gold/message/18479>


        BOOKS: ELECTRONIC: RESOURCES :
        DATABASES: BOOKS: ONLINE CATALOGS OPACS BOOK OPAC AGGREGATIONS:
        Library of Congress Launches Effort to Create World Digital Library
        in November 2005
        <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Net-Gold/message/18301>


        Bibliographic databases provide citations, abstracts and in some cases the
        full text of publications in a subject field or that meet some other
        criteria, such as being government publications. They often have very
        powerful software that permits searching a number of words in each search
        step and combining search steps with boolean and in some cases proximity
        operators, words in a search step can also be combined with boolean and
        proximity operators as well with combinations clarified with the use of
        parenthesis much as is the case with mathematical operators in a string
        operation on a scientific calculator. Databases permit the finding of
        precise and on target sources about a complex topic such as the impact on
        personal identity of participation in sports fan activities. Indeed for
        quality of content, there is a much stronger level of content useful to
        research in databases like Google Scholar, Google Books, Google Government
        and in Scirus.




        Sincerely,
        David Dillard
        Temple University
        (215) 204 - 4584
        jwne@...
        Net-Gold
        <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/net-gold>
        <http://listserv.temple.edu/archives/net-gold.html>
        <http://groups.google.com/group/net-gold?hl=en>
        <http://net-gold.jiglu.com/>
        General Internet & Print Resources
        <http://library.temple.edu/articles/subject_guides/general.jsp>
        <http://www.edu-cyberpg.com/ringleaders/davidd.html>
        Digital Divide Network
        <http://www.digitaldivide.net/profile/jwne>
        Educator-Gold
        <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Educator-Gold/>
        K12ADMINLIFE
        <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/K12AdminLIFE/>


        On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Deon Binneman wrote:

        > Mike,
        >
        >
        >
        > It is not off base.
        >
        >
        >
        > Most humans will resort to the news sources that they find comfortable i.e.
        > habitual or available.
        >
        >
        >
        > Unless you have been exposed to the necessity of mind expansion and looking
        > at other angles, most humans will go for what is available.
        >
        >
        >
        > I can justify my statement but will leave it at that. Communism ruled for a
        > long time. Propaganda has been around. People believe hat they read -- if
        > they don't we have no place working in media.
        >
        >
        >
        > Sure - today there are many sources. Educated persons rely on a variety, but
        > WHICH? Google? Is Google really the only way to search?
        >
        >
        >
        > What about Web 2. 0? What about the invisible web?
        >
        >
        >
        > Invisible web - depth searching! Are you all clear on this?
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > Deon Binneman
        > Speaker/Trainer/Consultant
        > Tel: 27 (011) 475-3515, Fax: 0866 129 566, Mobile: 083 425 4318
        > Email: deonbin@...
        > Blog: Deon Binneman on Managing Reputation:
        >
        > http://deonbinneman.wordpress.com/
        >
        > Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/deonbin
        >
        > P.O. Box 3285, Honeydew, Johannesburg, South Africa 2040
        > -------------------------------
        > Reputation Management
        > Consulting & Training
        > -------------------------------
        > Because your Reputation matters....
        > -------------------------------
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        >
        > It is not my intention to send this email to those who do not wish to
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        > _____
        >
        > From: prbytes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:prbytes@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
        > Michael Driehorst
        > Sent: 01 June 2007 02:42 PM
        > To: prbytes@yahoogroups.com
        > Subject: Re: You only get a sliver of news in the US RE: [prbytes] Bad News
        > Sells
        >
        >
        >
        > First, Joan's point about "You live in the US where access to
        > international news is extremely limited." is either mis-worded,
        > unclear or off base.
        >
        > That point is only true if people look to only US-based sources for
        > news. With the internet, we have unlimited ACCESS. So, access is not
        > the point. Pepole in the U.S. and most everywhere can look for other
        > opinions and multiple legit versions of news stories if they only look.
        >
        > And, yes, taking the extra effort is the hardest part.
        >
        > Secondly, unless I've missed it, is there a PR or other marketing
        > communications view to this entire thread?
        >
        > If I want political and other discussions, there are enough other
        > boards to visit. It's not what is expected when joining this group.
        > Granted, I'm only one member, but if this keeps up, the group will
        > have one less member.
        >
        > -- Mike
        >
        > Mike Driehorst
        > Messaging Strategist
        >
        > H A N S O N I N C .
        > 1625 Indian Wood Circle
        > Maumee, Ohio 43537 U.S.A.
        >
        > AIM: MikeDatHanson
        > Y!IM: miked918
        >
        > --- In prbytes@yahoogroups <mailto:prbytes%40yahoogroups.com> .com, "Joan
        > Weinberg" <jow@...> wrote:
        > >
        > > Better question: Do you happen to have a client who's pushing this
        > agenda?
        > >
        > > You live in the US where access to international news is extremely
        > limited.
        > > Did you hear that a piece of a glacier the size of Manhattan cracked
        > off?
        > > Hmmm, I wonder why this happened. And get this: All maps that
        > include the
        > > Arctic Circle will now have to be redrawn.
        > >
        > > Polar bears? Who needs them anyway? It's estimated they'll be extinct in
        > > 20-100 years. So take your kids to see them in the zoo and they can tell
        > > their grand kids some day that someone in the family actually saw one of
        > > these animals before it became extinct.
        > >
        > > I just about gave up on CNN (I was watching the European and Asian
        > editions)
        > > and now watch France 24:
        > >
        > http://www.france24
        > <http://www.france24.com/france24Public/en/archives/news/2007/January/scienc
        > e> .com/france24Public/en/archives/news/2007/January/science
        > > /20070129-report-global-warming.html
        > >
        > > Instead of reading the New York Times (you think you're getting
        > exposure to
        > > what's going on) I suggest the International Herald Trib. It
        > includes the
        > > NYT but is more expansive in its coverage. You'll come to learn that the
        > > automotive industry (ah, one of your clients) might have an agenda that
        > > threatens the same Earth that you and your family are standing on
        > and the
        > > air that you and your family are breathing.
        > >
        > > And yes, I put my money where my mouth is. There are certain clients I
        > > wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole. (And the next time I get
        > married, would
        > > someone please remind me not to marry a head-in-the-sand Republican?!)
        > >
        > > Joan :)
        > >
        > > Joan Weinberg
        > > The Weinberg Group/
        > > Free World-wide PR Firm Search Services
        > > Representing 150+ Tech, Life Sci,
        > > Corporate and Consumer PR Firms
        > > EMEA . US . Asia-Pacific
        > > Tel: +972-3-575-5448
        > > Fax: +972-3-575-5449
        > > Mobile: +972-522-202-484
        > > e: <mailto:jow@...> jow@...
        > > Skype: JoanW1
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