Re: Running distance
- Hey Chris,
I cannot agree more with your observations about how some guys "putz"
around once the wing is in the air, and concerning the absolute
curative effect of running your ass off. I have finally learned the
lesson, and especially honed it over the last few months.
When I first started flying my Silex I thought it was an easy
launching wing. However, having flown a few others since, I no longer
agree. My buddy is trying to get me to buy an Edel Power Atlas. The
wing launches VERY easily, flys relatively fast, and lands incredibly
soft. Still, there is something about the flight characteristics of
the Silex that I love, and I will not replace it. So, he always kids
me about my difficult-looking launches. My launch yesterday was a
perfect example of the importance of running instead of putzing.
The winds here in northeast Ohio yesterday when I got to the field at
about 6:00 p.m. were almost non-existent. My buddy was already in the
air, flying his Power Atlas, watching me set up and launch. When I
pulled it up and started running, the tips (about 30% on each side)
were tucked under (typical), while the center started to fully
inflate (again, typical), but then the front collapsed. I was looking
up (still running) at a nasty looking mess of fabric that had "abort"
written all over it. However, instead of giving up, I started to pour
on the run, held onto and began steering with the A's, running and
throttling (a slight upgrade, I might add). It was the most
difficult, probably one of the most ugly, somewhat incredible, and
somehow satisfying launches ever. When we landed an hour later, my
buddy agreed. His first comment was that, watching from the air, he
would have bet any amount of money, at the half-way point, that the
launch was doomed to be a dead-failure.
The moral of the story is that, in no wind forward launches, there is
no substitute for determination -- don't stand there putzin around
and lookin at your wing -- run, tug, steer, and throttle. (Okay,
maybe good technique -- you know, that prop-inflation technique --
see it performed on the yellow Silex in the Parastars video).
Instead of dreading no-wind forwards like I used to, I now enjoy the
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Chris Mullaney <deadfsh7777@y...>
> I agree with robin. Most of my flying has been zero wind, and Ifind it easier to launch by "commiting" and running as fast and as
smooth as possible. Just think of Forrest Gump! For me, I also hit
full power as soon as wing is overhead and after about 2-4 steps. The
quicker you increase groundspeed, the quicker you will be flying. The
hidden benefit is that if you are moving at a good clip from the
start, the wing stays pressurized and wants to fly, and fly straight.
As it begins to slightly lift, you can feel whether or not you need
to make adjustments. If you look at the various videos out there,
including Parastars, you will see many blown launches by pilots who
get wing up, but put then "putz" around looking up and trying to
micro-control the wing. Instead, they need to get their a** moving!!
I am no expert, but this has worked for me. Setting up is also very
key to avoiding surprises during launch phase. I always make sure
wing is perfectly laid out and there are no
> overlaps/tangles in the lines. As for your slow takeoff? it iseither weight or an atmospheric condition. Just my 2 cents. BTW, I
have a Muse 30 and weigh about 206.
>speed at which you run. With no
> flyguy <flyguy@k...> wrote: Another thing to consider, John, is the
> wind, your running speed is all you have to create lift. Sometimeswhen we
> launch we are so concerned about getting the wing up and stablethat we
> don't run fast enough. This happens to me when I am tired to beginwith.
> I also found that loosening my leg straps a bit lets me runfaster. Often,
> that makes all the difference.204,
> BTW I am 183, fly an SC top80 and a Muse 30.
> Robin Rumbolt
> ------------- Original message follows -------------
> John, the upper weight range for the Muse 28 is 242 lbs. You weigh
> your motor weighs 48, your wing weighs 13. That alone puts yourtakeoff
> weight at 265 lbs, or about 10% over the placard. Then you have toyou might
> the weight of your fuel (6.5 lbs per gallon) and any other stuff
> carryclimb were
> reserve, gizmos, helmet). So, I would say your takeoff and slow
> result of being over the wings weight limit. Not that there is
> with that. I fly over the placard all the time, but you should
> effects of doing so on performance.
> --- In email@example.com, "John Glynn" <jg0140@m...> wrote:
> > Just curious ppg list, I did a forward launch in ZERO wind this
> Sunday.Cruiser with
> The temp was around 78 degrees F. The unit is a Paralite Sky
> RDM 100 engine and a Muse 28 wing. I must have run 100+++ feet
> slooowly climbing. I know this is only my 12 flight and I probablyhave a
> lot toor is
> learn but is the main reason for this slow climb rate my 204 pounds
> this tyService.
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