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Re: Duplicate Emails Sent RESTATED

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  • Larry Stone
    ... You then include logs but it s hard to figure out what corresponds to site1, site2, and site3. The logs appear to indicate that there are one or more
    Message 1 of 12 , Mar 19, 2013
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      On Tue, 19 Mar 2013, Ed wrote:

      > Hi All.
      >
      > I am experiencing an issue with the following:
      >
      > The scenario:
      >  
      > From: aaaa@...
      > To:      bbbb@...
      > CC:    me@...
      >  
      > After receiving the email CC at site 3, site 3 is sending out emails to
      > everyone on the original,
      > basically a duplicate email arrives to the sender and everyone in the
      > headers.

      You then include logs but it's hard to figure out what corresponds to
      site1, site2, and site3.

      The logs appear to indicate that there are one or more content filters at
      play. Noel pointed out what can happen if they're poorly designed.

      Postfix

      > Site 3 logs and postconf follows
      > Logs
      > ----------------------
      > Mar 14 10:27:41 mail postfix/cleanup[5265]: 10E7BE1C0A:message-id=<E72852EF80963148B21E9046E0C9BDC82863FEC1@...
      > al>
      > Mar 14 10:27:41 mail postfix/smtpd[5269]: disconnect from
      > localhost[127.0.0.1]
      > Mar 14 10:27:41 mail postfix/smtp[5266]: 44D90E014D:
      > to=<edlang@...>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024, delay=6.5,
      > delays=1.7/0.02/0/4.7, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok, id=03066-15,
      > from MTA([127.0.0.1]:10025): 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 10E7BE1C0A)

      What's this. We see the queue ID reported by the recieving SMTP server in
      our own logs. Is this just being handed off to our same Postfix instance
      on another port?

      > Mar 14 10:27:41 mail postfix/qmgr[2179]: 44D90E014D: removed
      > Mar 14 10:27:41 mail postfix/smtp[5270]: 10E7BE1C0A:
      > to=<edlang@...>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10026, delay=0.05,
      > delays=0.03/0.02/0/0, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok)

      Handed off to a content filter at port 10026.

      > Mar 14 10:27:41 mail postfix/qmgr[2179]: 10E7BE1C0A: removed

      > Mar 14 10:27:41 mail postfix/smtpd[5272]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
      > Mar 14 10:27:41 mail postfix/smtpd[5272]: 4B9A3E1C0A:
      > client=localhost[127.0.0.1]
      > Mar 14 10:27:41 mail postfix/cleanup[5265]: 4B9A3E1C0A:message-id=<E72852EF80963148B21E9046E0C9BDC82863FEC1@...
      > al>
      > Mar 14 10:27:41 mail postfix/qmgr[2179]: 4B9A3E1C0A:
      > from=<avery.robert@...>, size=7049, nrcpt=3 (queue active)

      And comes back from a content filter with 3 recipients.

      Seeing your master.cf might help too. But it's most likely the content
      filter listening to port 10026.

      -- Larry Stone
      lstone19@...
    • Ed
      Thanks Noel, I am going to set up a defined test and look into sendmail/procmail thoughts Ed ... Thanks Noel, I am going to set up a defined test and look into
      Message 2 of 12 , Mar 19, 2013
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        Thanks Noel,

        I am going to set up a defined test and look into sendmail/procmail thoughts

        Ed



        From: Noel Jones <njones@...>
        To: postfix-users@...
        Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 12:41 PM
        Subject: Re: Duplicate Emails Sent RESTATED

        On 3/19/2013 10:50 AM, Ed wrote:
        > Hi All.
        >
        > I am experiencing an issue with the following:
        >
        > The scenario:

        > From: aaaa@... <mailto:aaaa@...>
        > To:      bbbb@... <mailto:bbbb@...>
        > CC:    me@... <mailto:me@...>

        > After receiving the email CC at site 3, site 3 is sending out emails
        > to everyone on the original,
        > basically a duplicate email arrives to the sender and everyone in
        > the headers.

        The are basically two ways mail can be resent to header addresses.
        Either you're sending to a content_filter that feeds the mail into
        "sendmail -t"  (very bad! don't do that), or the recipient has a
        procmail or similar delivery filter that is resending the mail.


        It's not clear from the logs you've posted what is happening, but
        it's sure to be one of these.



          -- Noel Jones


      • Ed
        Thanks for the insight  Larry. I think that some work nee3ds to be done on the filter at 100026 Ed ... Thanks for the insight Larry. I think that some work
        Message 3 of 12 , Mar 20, 2013
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          Thanks for the insight  Larry.

          I think that some work nee3ds to be done on the filter at 100026

          Ed


          From: Larry Stone <lstone19@...>
          To: "postfix-users@... Users" <postfix-users@...>
          Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 1:10 PM
          Subject: Re: Duplicate Emails Sent RESTATED

          On Tue, 19 Mar 2013, Ed wrote:

          > Hi All.
          >
          > I am experiencing an issue with the following:
          >
          > The scenario:
          >  
          > From: aaaa@...
          > To:      bbbb@...
          > CC:    me@...
          >  
          > After receiving the email CC at site 3, site 3 is sending out emails to
          > everyone on the original,
          > basically a duplicate email arrives to the sender and everyone in the
          > headers.

          You then include logs but it's hard to figure out what corresponds to site1, site2, and site3.

          The logs appear to indicate that there are one or more content filters at play. Noel pointed out what can happen if they're poorly designed.

          Postfix

          > Site 3 logs and postconf follows
          > Logs
          > ----------------------
          > Mar 14 10:27:41 mail postfix/cleanup[5265]: 10E7BE1C0A:message-id=<E72852EF80963148B21E9046E0C9BDC82863FEC1@...
          > al>
          > Mar 14 10:27:41 mail postfix/smtpd[5269]: disconnect from
          > localhost[127.0.0.1]
          > Mar 14 10:27:41 mail postfix/smtp[5266]: 44D90E014D:
          > to=<edlang@...>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024, delay=6.5,
          > delays=1.7/0.02/0/4.7, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok, id=03066-15,
          > from MTA([127.0.0.1]:10025): 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 10E7BE1C0A)

          What's this. We see the queue ID reported by the recieving SMTP server in our own logs. Is this just being handed off to our same Postfix instance on another port?

          > Mar 14 10:27:41 mail postfix/qmgr[2179]: 44D90E014D: removed
          > Mar 14 10:27:41 mail postfix/smtp[5270]: 10E7BE1C0A:
          > to=<edlang@...>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10026, delay=0.05,
          > delays=0.03/0.02/0/0, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok)

          Handed off to a content filter at port 10026.

          > Mar 14 10:27:41 mail postfix/qmgr[2179]: 10E7BE1C0A: removed

          > Mar 14 10:27:41 mail postfix/smtpd[5272]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
          > Mar 14 10:27:41 mail postfix/smtpd[5272]: 4B9A3E1C0A:
          > client=localhost[127.0.0.1]
          > Mar 14 10:27:41 mail postfix/cleanup[5265]: 4B9A3E1C0A:message-id=<E72852EF80963148B21E9046E0C9BDC82863FEC1@...
          > al>
          > Mar 14 10:27:41 mail postfix/qmgr[2179]: 4B9A3E1C0A:
          > from=<avery.robert@...>, size=7049, nrcpt=3 (queue active)

          And comes back from a content filter with 3 recipients.

          Seeing your master.cf might help too. But it's most likely the content filter listening to port 10026.

          -- Larry Stone
            lstone19@...

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