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  • Barry McClelland
    ... From: Barry McClelland To: pop-pop-steamboats@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [pop-pop-steamboats] Re: New member Hi
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      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 7:10 PM
      Subject: Re: [pop-pop-steamboats] Re: New member

      Hi Pete,
        The process, I start by making a master by hand. I use sheet, strip, tube. and shape styrene. I also laminate sheet styrene to make stock form my lathe. From the master I make the pre-production molds to make the production masters. Most production molds make more than one part. The molds are made out of RTV room temperature vulcanizing rubber. A silicone rubber with a 10% catalyst to cure it. The molds usually cure overnight. I do have to make boxes to put the master in to hold the rubber. Once I have the first set of production molds done I test them. I cast the molds with resin to be sure it works properly. I then assemble a kit from production parts. If everything fits I make as many sets of production molds as I need. Casting with resin, I use premium resin, you get what you pay for big time!! I measure out the resin 50-50 and mix it. The resin I use the most has a 3 minute work time. I work the into resin in the mold to get rid of bubbles. I can remove the parts in 30 to 60 minutes depending on detail and thickness.
        The main size restriction of my vacuum chamber. This is used to remover air from the RTV. It is 12 inch diameter. This can be worked around and larger molds can be made. I have not made any molds that wouldn't fit in the chamber. I have been around when larger molds have been made.
      Stability and Warpage, I use Alumilite RC-3 it is extremely stable. Most parts that warp are thin and can easily be fixed, thick parts rarely warp. To fix warped parts I dip them in boiled water for about 10 seconds the place on a flat surface and hold it down. Once it has cooled it will retain the shape.
        The detail that can be produced is unbelievable. I can write on a master with a pencil and you can read it on the casting. 
               Thanks Barry 
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Pete B.
      Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:26 PM
      Subject: [pop-pop-steamboats] Re: New member

      Hi Barry,

      I'm the "CLERMONT" guy!

      Your operation sounds like it has potential for Creating at least
      prototype pop-pop Clermonts. Along that line I have a couple of
      questions for you.

      What is your process?

      What is you size restriction for your process and equipment?

      How stable is the material as far as warpage etc.?

      How fine a detail can you reproduce?

      I think that it would be a lot of fun trying to coordinate a working
      pop-pop boat using your expertise on the casting. We have others in the
      group who could develop the engine. With Frank and all his ideas we
      could definitely pull this off. I have a 3D model that I can scale up or
      down as req'd. It's not quite done yet, but the hull is doable. It's a
      3D shell that can be modified quite easily. Check the screen captures
      under Photos.



      --- In pop-pop-steamboats@ yahoogroups. com, " Barry McClelland"
      <barry@...> wrote:
      > Hi Frank,
      > I get most of my plans for kits from books and magazines, I also work
      from photos and occasionally freelance my own plans. For the locomotives
      I fit the plans to an existing model locomotive. I do get lucky and
      occasionally find a donor locomotive that almost fits a prototype
      locomotive within a couple of scale inches. Sometime I am able to
      actually get the dimensions first hand. There are some card models of
      some trains available, I really done follow this.
      > I have done casting for other kit manufacturers. At this point I don't
      plan in going into selling boats, but I would like to help out. I have
      10 years of casting experience and one of my friends is the list owner
      and moderator of the casting list. He lives very close to us.
      > There are a number of products that can be used for casting and mold
      making. It is mostly a matter of finding the right products. If heat is
      involved it is just a matter of keeping the heat away from the resin
      parts. A simple heat shield and thought into design should help out
      > The type of casting I do is very well suited for small production
      runs. For that matter it is not a big deal to cast one part or 500. The
      costs are very low compared to injection molding. Most of the casts are
      for the labor. If we do this I would prefer to start out with a small
      > Thanks Barry
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: Frank McNeill
      > To: pop-pop-steamboats@ yahoogroups. com
      > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:20 PM
      > Subject: Re: [pop-pop-steamboats ] New member
      > Hi Barry,
      > You have an interesting specialty with narrow gauge kits. We have
      several "loco" members on the group who could answer this question, but
      how do go about finding dimensions for rare types of rolling stock? We
      are just getting around to a notion for using kits for paper boat models
      for inspiration. I haven't checked, but am assuming there are also kits
      for paper models of locomotives and railway cars. With regard to your
      ability to produce hulls and non mechanical parts, pop-pop boats are the
      ultimate in "non mechanical," because classic pop-pop engines don't have
      moving parts, and can be as elegantly simple as a length of metal tubing
      with a few turns of coil at the center center and two ends sticking out
      somewhere below the waterline for propulsion.
      > Justin "Buzz" McMillian, owner of Buzz's Boatyard at
      <http://www.buzzboat s.com/>, has installed radio controlled rudders in
      several of the larger boats manufactured by Rattandeep Enterprise
      company and has done some development of a custom boat with a vertical
      type pop-pop engine in a wooden hull. Buzz is probably the world's
      largest distributor of pop-pop boats. He is also a member of the
      pop-pop-steamboats group, and would probably be glad to help a fellow
      member get into the pop-pop boat production business.
      > It goes without saying that we are glad to have you as a member , but
      I will "say" it anyway, we are DELIGHTED to have you onboard.
      > Best wishes, Frank McNeill
      > On 11/29/06, Barry McClelland barry@... wrote:
      > Hi All,
      > I am Barry McClelland I own and run Railway Recollections. I am pretty
      much a one man show. I produce resin kits of mostly HOn30 (HO narrow
      gauge model trains) kits. I have been doing this for about 10 years 3 of
      which are full time.
      > I might be able to produce hulls and other non mechanical parts out of
      resin and resin foam. I will also make molds for others to use. If I can
      produce the hulls out of foam there will not be the sinking and
      retrieval problem of a metal hull.
      > My web site www.railway- recollections. com
      > Thanks Barry
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