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  • JK
    Jan 5, 2011
      sorry, what information, Linda?
       
      I recommend contacting Meylakh Sheykhet in Lviv, Ukraine...he works with the Jewish community there and can get you housing and transportation if you use Lviv as a base:
       
       
      He is a real tzaddik and a sweet man. I think there are several articles about him on the web, just google his name.
       
      regards from Brno,
      Jeff 


      --- On Wed, 1/5/11, Linda Soudack <soudack@...> wrote:

      From: Linda Soudack <soudack@...>
      Subject: Re: [podhajce] Re: Trip to Podhajce
      To: podhajce@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 6:51 PM



      We happen to be going to Austin Texas tomorrow for a family wedding.  If I recall correctly there are some families within Austin who have family from Podhajce, and would like to touch base with them.  Could you send that information.  Thanks Linda Soudack
       
       
       
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 10:01 AM
      Subject: [podhajce] Re: Trip to Podhajce

       
      Jeff,

      Thanks for your reply. Vienna would also be of interest as my Great Great grandfather is buried in the National cemetery there. Would love to figure out a visit there. But I have heard Budapest is a fabulous city too. trying to figure out best route / available flights. Looks like train between Vienna and Budapest is 3 - 4 hours and +/- $100 (US)...so maybe we go into one and out of the other. I will let you know.

      Has anybody catalogued the graves in Podhajce?

      As to the internet helping with all of this... I can not imagine making alll of these connections any other way. How would we have found each other? How would we share all of this information....?? A much better use of this technology would be hard to imagine.

      I will stay in touch. Thanks!

      Herb

      --- In podhajce@yahoogroups.com, JK <jeffckellner@...> wrote:
      >
      > Hi Herb,
      >
      > Wow, Podhajce Texans, now I've hoid everything!
      >
      > Thanks for the email...Vienna would be a better starting point for a number of reasons...I live about 2 hrs from Vienna...Podhajce is about a 2 hour drive from Lviv, so driving from Vienna or Budapest isnt so crazy.
      > But there is a Vienna-Lviv flight on a cheap (possibly Romanian) airline.
      > It goes thru Budapest and is quite long...a rented car or van would be cheaper if a few people go.
      >
      > I am not sure if the Ukrainians lifted their expensive visa requirements on Americans, someone told me yes but its worth researching.
      >
      > Funny, my grandma (from Podhajce) had a cousin who didnt have the luxury of choosing where to get off, they immigrated to Brazil in the 30s as the US was cut off due to the then anti-immigration fever (!) I found my distant cousins first on the Vad Hashem Shoah databse and then skype and a few hours later we were hooked up! The miracle of the internet age, would have taken weeks by post...
      >
      > Thanks again,
      > Jeff
      >
      >
      >
      > --- On Wed, 1/5/11, goodmanherb@... <goodmanherb@...> wrote:
      >
      > > From: goodmanherb@... <goodmanherb@...>
      > > Subject: [podhajce] Re: Trip to Podhajce
      > > To: podhajce@yahoogroups.com
      > > Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 12:21 AM
      > > Jeff,
      > >
      > > I am fascinated at how quickly...less than 24 hours...all
      > > of this info could come together for me. All of you seem to
      > > have been onto this Podhajce stuff for awhile....David and I
      > > are just digging in.
      > >
      > > To all who read this.... I am planning...not for sure...but
      > > planning to try to get to Budapest or maybe Vienna sometime
      > > in late June or early July. I will be traveling on award
      > > mileage on American Airlines from Dallas Texas...so I need
      > > to see what is available.
      > >
      > > My great Great garndfather is buried in the National
      > > cemetery in Vienna, hence the desire to possibly start or
      > > end a trip there. A cousin has been there...so she might be
      > > able to direct me to the grave.
      > >
      > > Our ancestors would never believe that the internet is
      > > starting to bring us all back together. As they headed in
      > > their carts or on foot pout to the port of Hamburg or
      > > wherever to escape the pogroms...surely they never imagined
      > > that anybody would ever want to come back to this place they
      > > escaped from!
      > >
      > > Finally...for today at least....our family came from
      > > Podhajce to the port of Galveston Texas in the late 1800's,
      > > early 1900's. There were a few other Podhajce families on
      > > the boat with them...and some families ultimately settled in
      > > Brownsville Texas...on the border of Mexico. The story goes
      > > that others on the boat did not get off in Galveston...and
      > > continued on to Argentina of all places. Some of the people
      > > in Brownsville have actually gone to Argentina to visit
      > > these other descendants of Podhajce!
      > >
      > > Perhaps we shall all meet this summer...
      > >
      > > Herb Goodman
      > > Dallas Texas
      > >
      > > --- In podhajce@yahoogroups.com,
      > > JK <jeffckellner@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Hi Francine,
      > > >  
      > > > I think we corresponded a few years back...
      > > >  
      > > > The cemetery received a fence, I think a couple years
      > > ago, due to the tireless work of Meylakh Sheykhet...
      > > >  
      > > > I secured $45,000 for Meylakh in 2009 from a fund left
      > > by my father's half-sister, who was born in Podhajce in
      > > 1902. The rules of the fund required the funds to be
      > > earmarked for the elderly and young, so money was spent on
      > > food, clothing, medicine and school supplies for the Lviv
      > > community.
      > > >  
      > > > Meylakh put together a written estimate to stabilize
      > > and clean the shul at a cost between $30 and 50,000. Someone
      > > replaced the roof several years ago...it would be nice if
      > > our group could raise the money to improve the
      > > building...are their any machers in our midst? Or anyone who
      > > knows a fund or org out there that funds these types of
      > > things?
      > > >  
      > > > As you can see from the video, expat Podhajcer Poles
      > > began fixing their ruined cathedral, also in the town.
      > > >  
      > > > If interested parties can agree on a date, we can all
      > > meet in a convenient city (Budapest?) and drive there. 
      > > This may be the best approach (as any flight to Lviv
      > > requires two expensive flights and is still 2 hours from
      > > Podhajce by car). There is no Lviv-Podhajce train
      > > service and the Lviv-Podhajce bus trip was something like 4
      > > hours...yeesh. 
      > > >  
      > > > The hotel is simple in Podhajce but could facilitate
      > > us.  It is really worth staying a few days...one day wont
      > > do and you'll want to stay longer. 
      > > >  
      > > > Sadly the one great man to meet in Podhajce, Dr.
      > > Bohdan Metik died last year.  Apart from speaking English,
      > > he had many fond memories of prewar Podhajce life and
      > > counted several Jews among his friends...one of which, Alex
      > > Kimmel has a website and I believe the two spoke after 60
      > > years of silence!
      > > >  
      > > > Jeff Kellner
      > > > Brno, CZ
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > --- On Tue, 1/4/11, Francine Shapiro
      > > <franshap@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > From: Francine Shapiro <franshap@>
      > > > Subject: Re: [podhajce] Trip to Podhajce
      > > > To: podhajce@yahoogroups.com
      > > > Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 10:51 AM
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
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      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > I was there in 2001 with Alex Dunai as my guide. It's
      > > a small town. The synagogue needs renovation and
      > > restoration. It's really a neglected gem. The mill was
      > > destroyed in World War II, and the one standing is a new
      > > building. The original owner's wife is very old, but alive
      > > in Yavne. The cemetery was also unfenced, and still is. I
      > > think the goats do good work trimming the grass, but mine is
      > > a minority opinion.
      > > >    The town itself looks Jean Rosenbaum's pictures.
      > > They were building a Greek Catholic church, and I'm sure
      > > it's been completed by now. We actually had lunch in the
      > > little hotel. Things were pretty basic, but time moves on.
      > > >    My family was from Podhajce on one side. My
      > > grandmother was really born in Biela Konice, a hamlet about
      > > six kilometers away, but lived in Podhajce too, I think. Her
      > > parents died, but her grandfather made liquor in Tarnopol.
      > > >   Some of my Galveston relatives have Podhajce roots.
      > > They own a furniture store called Star Furniture, and it's
      > > been in business for the last 80 years. The woman who
      > > started the Podhajce blog, Jean Rosenbaum is the aunt of my
      > > late cousin's late husband.  
      > > >   We are Goldhirshes, Steins-- and whatever, if you
      > > happen to know them. Cindy Stein lives in Austin.
      > > >    If I were to do the trip again, I think I would
      > > also go to some of the major non-Jewish sights in the area.
      > > All the small towns are just that. It doesn't take long to
      > > see them.It is helpful to put these places in some sort of
      > > context- what other towns looked like, etc.We went through
      > > Rohatyn, which is particularly beautiful. The Austrians put
      > > some effort into beautifying the centers a little, and it's
      > > really aesthetic.
      > > >    The Perls are an interesting bunch. There was
      > > Josef Perl who started a modern school in
      > > > Tarnopol, and wrote the curriculum himself.
      > > > I am trying to remember if there was a Perl-I think
      > > there was- at the Podhajce ceremony in June at the 
      > > Nachlaot Yitzhak cemetery in Tel Aviv.
      > > > Francine Shapiro
      > > > Jerusalem
      > > >
      > > > --- On Tue, 1/4/11, goodmanherb@
      > > <goodmanherb@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > From: goodmanherb@ <goodmanherb@>
      > > > Subject: [podhajce] Trip to Podhajce
      > > > To: podhajce@yahoogroups.com
      > > > Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 1:42 AM
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >  
      > > >
      > > > I am new as of this minute to this group....
      > > >
      > > > Grandfather was from Podhajce. I am thinking of
      > > traveling there this summer...perhaps from Budapest. Any
      > > tips greatly appreciated.
      > > >
      > > > Family name was Pearl or Perl.
      > > >
      > > > Most left late 1890's to either Galveston TX or NYC.
      > > Some left earlier to Safed Israel, where they became a
      > > prominent family....recently one of the descendants was the
      > > mayor of Safed.
      > > >
      > > > I have a cousin in Austin TX who is doing a major
      > > GENI.com family tree on Perl family...so if anybody out
      > > there is interested in or has a Pearl / Perl connection...he
      > > would love to know. His email is david.perl@
      > > >
      > > > Trip advice to Podhajce greatly appreciated. Please
      > > contact me at
      > > > herb.goodman@ Thanks!
      > > >
      > > > Herb Goodman
      > > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > ------------------------------------
      > >
      > > Yahoo! Groups Links
      > >
      > >
      > >     podhajce-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >




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