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  • goodmanherb@yahoo.com
    Jan 5, 2011
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      Linda,

      My cousin David Perl lives in Austin. I will make sure he checks this board and gets in touch with you.

      Herb Goodman

      --- In podhajce@yahoogroups.com, "Linda Soudack" <soudack@...> wrote:
      >
      > We happen to be going to Austin Texas tomorrow for a family wedding. If I recall correctly there are some families within Austin who have family from Podhajce, and would like to touch base with them. Could you send that information. Thanks Linda Soudack
      >
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: goodmanherb@...
      > To: podhajce@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 10:01 AM
      > Subject: [podhajce] Re: Trip to Podhajce
      >
      >
      >
      > Jeff,
      >
      > Thanks for your reply. Vienna would also be of interest as my Great Great grandfather is buried in the National cemetery there. Would love to figure out a visit there. But I have heard Budapest is a fabulous city too. trying to figure out best route / available flights. Looks like train between Vienna and Budapest is 3 - 4 hours and +/- $100 (US)...so maybe we go into one and out of the other. I will let you know.
      >
      > Has anybody catalogued the graves in Podhajce?
      >
      > As to the internet helping with all of this... I can not imagine making alll of these connections any other way. How would we have found each other? How would we share all of this information....?? A much better use of this technology would be hard to imagine.
      >
      > I will stay in touch. Thanks!
      >
      > Herb
      >
      > --- In podhajce@yahoogroups.com, JK <jeffckellner@> wrote:
      > >
      > > Hi Herb,
      > >
      > > Wow, Podhajce Texans, now I've hoid everything!
      > >
      > > Thanks for the email...Vienna would be a better starting point for a number of reasons...I live about 2 hrs from Vienna...Podhajce is about a 2 hour drive from Lviv, so driving from Vienna or Budapest isnt so crazy.
      > > But there is a Vienna-Lviv flight on a cheap (possibly Romanian) airline.
      > > It goes thru Budapest and is quite long...a rented car or van would be cheaper if a few people go.
      > >
      > > I am not sure if the Ukrainians lifted their expensive visa requirements on Americans, someone told me yes but its worth researching.
      > >
      > > Funny, my grandma (from Podhajce) had a cousin who didnt have the luxury of choosing where to get off, they immigrated to Brazil in the 30s as the US was cut off due to the then anti-immigration fever (!) I found my distant cousins first on the Vad Hashem Shoah databse and then skype and a few hours later we were hooked up! The miracle of the internet age, would have taken weeks by post...
      > >
      > > Thanks again,
      > > Jeff
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > --- On Wed, 1/5/11, goodmanherb@ <goodmanherb@> wrote:
      > >
      > > > From: goodmanherb@ <goodmanherb@>
      > > > Subject: [podhajce] Re: Trip to Podhajce
      > > > To: podhajce@yahoogroups.com
      > > > Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 12:21 AM
      > > > Jeff,
      > > >
      > > > I am fascinated at how quickly...less than 24 hours...all
      > > > of this info could come together for me. All of you seem to
      > > > have been onto this Podhajce stuff for awhile....David and I
      > > > are just digging in.
      > > >
      > > > To all who read this.... I am planning...not for sure...but
      > > > planning to try to get to Budapest or maybe Vienna sometime
      > > > in late June or early July. I will be traveling on award
      > > > mileage on American Airlines from Dallas Texas...so I need
      > > > to see what is available.
      > > >
      > > > My great Great garndfather is buried in the National
      > > > cemetery in Vienna, hence the desire to possibly start or
      > > > end a trip there. A cousin has been there...so she might be
      > > > able to direct me to the grave.
      > > >
      > > > Our ancestors would never believe that the internet is
      > > > starting to bring us all back together. As they headed in
      > > > their carts or on foot pout to the port of Hamburg or
      > > > wherever to escape the pogroms...surely they never imagined
      > > > that anybody would ever want to come back to this place they
      > > > escaped from!
      > > >
      > > > Finally...for today at least....our family came from
      > > > Podhajce to the port of Galveston Texas in the late 1800's,
      > > > early 1900's. There were a few other Podhajce families on
      > > > the boat with them...and some families ultimately settled in
      > > > Brownsville Texas...on the border of Mexico. The story goes
      > > > that others on the boat did not get off in Galveston...and
      > > > continued on to Argentina of all places. Some of the people
      > > > in Brownsville have actually gone to Argentina to visit
      > > > these other descendants of Podhajce!
      > > >
      > > > Perhaps we shall all meet this summer...
      > > >
      > > > Herb Goodman
      > > > Dallas Texas
      > > >
      > > > --- In podhajce@yahoogroups.com,
      > > > JK <jeffckellner@> wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > Hi Francine,
      > > > >
      > > > > I think we corresponded a few years back...
      > > > >
      > > > > The cemetery received a fence, I think a couple years
      > > > ago, due to the tireless work of Meylakh Sheykhet...
      > > > >
      > > > > I secured $45,000 for Meylakh in 2009 from a fund left
      > > > by my father's half-sister, who was born in Podhajce in
      > > > 1902. The rules of the fund required the funds to be
      > > > earmarked for the elderly and young, so money was spent on
      > > > food, clothing, medicine and school supplies for the Lviv
      > > > community.
      > > > >
      > > > > Meylakh put together a written estimate to stabilize
      > > > and clean the shul at a cost between $30 and 50,000. Someone
      > > > replaced the roof several years ago...it would be nice if
      > > > our group could raise the money to improve the
      > > > building...are their any machers in our midst? Or anyone who
      > > > knows a fund or org out there that funds these types of
      > > > things?
      > > > >
      > > > > As you can see from the video, expat Podhajcer Poles
      > > > began fixing their ruined cathedral, also in the town.
      > > > >
      > > > > If interested parties can agree on a date, we can all
      > > > meet in a convenient city (Budapest?) and drive there.
      > > > This may be the best approach (as any flight to Lviv
      > > > requires two expensive flights and is still 2 hours from
      > > > Podhajce by car). There is no Lviv-Podhajce train
      > > > service and the Lviv-Podhajce bus trip was something like 4
      > > > hours...yeesh.
      > > > >
      > > > > The hotel is simple in Podhajce but could facilitate
      > > > us. It is really worth staying a few days...one day wont
      > > > do and you'll want to stay longer.
      > > > >
      > > > > Sadly the one great man to meet in Podhajce, Dr.
      > > > Bohdan Metik died last year. Apart from speaking English,
      > > > he had many fond memories of prewar Podhajce life and
      > > > counted several Jews among his friends...one of which, Alex
      > > > Kimmel has a website and I believe the two spoke after 60
      > > > years of silence!
      > > > >
      > > > > Jeff Kellner
      > > > > Brno, CZ
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > --- On Tue, 1/4/11, Francine Shapiro
      > > > <franshap@> wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > From: Francine Shapiro <franshap@>
      > > > > Subject: Re: [podhajce] Trip to Podhajce
      > > > > To: podhajce@yahoogroups.com
      > > > > Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 10:51 AM
      > > > >
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      > > > > I was there in 2001 with Alex Dunai as my guide. It's
      > > > a small town. The synagogue needs renovation and
      > > > restoration. It's really a neglected gem. The mill was
      > > > destroyed in World War II, and the one standing is a new
      > > > building. The original owner's wife is very old, but alive
      > > > in Yavne. The cemetery was also unfenced, and still is. I
      > > > think the goats do good work trimming the grass, but mine is
      > > > a minority opinion.
      > > > > The town itself looks Jean Rosenbaum's pictures.
      > > > They were building a Greek Catholic church, and I'm sure
      > > > it's been completed by now. We actually had lunch in the
      > > > little hotel. Things were pretty basic, but time moves on.
      > > > > My family was from Podhajce on one side. My
      > > > grandmother was really born in Biela Konice, a hamlet about
      > > > six kilometers away, but lived in Podhajce too, I think. Her
      > > > parents died, but her grandfather made liquor in Tarnopol.
      > > > > Some of my Galveston relatives have Podhajce roots.
      > > > They own a furniture store called Star Furniture, and it's
      > > > been in business for the last 80 years. The woman who
      > > > started the Podhajce blog, Jean Rosenbaum is the aunt of my
      > > > late cousin's late husband.
      > > > > We are Goldhirshes, Steins-- and whatever, if you
      > > > happen to know them. Cindy Stein lives in Austin.
      > > > > If I were to do the trip again, I think I would
      > > > also go to some of the major non-Jewish sights in the area.
      > > > All the small towns are just that. It doesn't take long to
      > > > see them.It is helpful to put these places in some sort of
      > > > context- what other towns looked like, etc.We went through
      > > > Rohatyn, which is particularly beautiful. The Austrians put
      > > > some effort into beautifying the centers a little, and it's
      > > > really aesthetic.
      > > > > The Perls are an interesting bunch. There was
      > > > Josef Perl who started a modern school in
      > > > > Tarnopol, and wrote the curriculum himself.
      > > > > I am trying to remember if there was a Perl-I think
      > > > there was- at the Podhajce ceremony in June at the
      > > > Nachlaot Yitzhak cemetery in Tel Aviv.
      > > > > Francine Shapiro
      > > > > Jerusalem
      > > > >
      > > > > --- On Tue, 1/4/11, goodmanherb@
      > > > <goodmanherb@> wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > From: goodmanherb@ <goodmanherb@>
      > > > > Subject: [podhajce] Trip to Podhajce
      > > > > To: podhajce@yahoogroups.com
      > > > > Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 1:42 AM
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > I am new as of this minute to this group....
      > > > >
      > > > > Grandfather was from Podhajce. I am thinking of
      > > > traveling there this summer...perhaps from Budapest. Any
      > > > tips greatly appreciated.
      > > > >
      > > > > Family name was Pearl or Perl.
      > > > >
      > > > > Most left late 1890's to either Galveston TX or NYC.
      > > > Some left earlier to Safed Israel, where they became a
      > > > prominent family....recently one of the descendants was the
      > > > mayor of Safed.
      > > > >
      > > > > I have a cousin in Austin TX who is doing a major
      > > > GENI.com family tree on Perl family...so if anybody out
      > > > there is interested in or has a Pearl / Perl connection...he
      > > > would love to know. His email is david.perl@
      > > > >
      > > > > Trip advice to Podhajce greatly appreciated. Please
      > > > contact me at
      > > > > herb.goodman@ Thanks!
      > > > >
      > > > > Herb Goodman
      > > > >
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      > > > ------------------------------------
      > > >
      > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > podhajce-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
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