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Re: [podcasters] 2007 Podcast Awards Nominations Underway

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  • Brian Ibbott
    Sorry - responded before I d read all the replies after this. Greetings from Redundancy-ville. Brian ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
    Message 1 of 34 , Jul 11, 2007
      Sorry - responded before I'd read all the replies after this.

      Greetings from Redundancy-ville.

      Brian


      On Jul 11, 2007, at 10:52 AM, Brian Ibbott wrote:

      > But you're wrong.
      >
      > There is a level between the two instances you describe. The
      > excellent They Might Be Giants podcast plays licensed music that they
      > have permission to play - as it's their label.
      >
      > The terrific a cappella podcasts A Cappella U, and the Acapodcast
      > play songs that they have FULL PERMISSION to play from the
      > performers, and they pay ASCAP, BMI and SESAC which legally allows
      > them to play these songs, giving deserved stipends to the songwriters
      > of the music they play.
      >
      > As does Coverville.
      >
      > This is why the Podsafe term is limited in it's definition.
      >
      > Brian
      >
      > On Jul 4, 2007, at 11:41 PM, Todd Cochrane wrote:
      >
      > > The issue here is there are a handful of shows that play RIAA
      > > controlled
      > > music, the very high majority play music that will not get the sued
      > > by the
      > > RIAA and if a podcaster today. There is only one of those license
      > > organizations that even remotely have any language in their
      > licensing
      > > provisions that protect a podcaster. The very simple fact is this
      > > if you
      > > play RIAA controlled music in your podcast and make that file
      > > available for
      > > "download" it is not at all podsafe and the podcaster can have his
      > > butt
      > > hauled into court just as fast a person sharing file in peer to
      > peer.
      > >
      > > Podcasting has it tenants in podcasters playing podsafe music you
      > > can try
      > > and get a license from all of these organizations but guess what
      > > unless your
      > > are streaming your podcast versus allowing it to be downloaded
      > > there is no
      > > safety net. To think otherwise is being very ignorant. This has
      > > been looked
      > > at by a variety of lawyers that are well respected in the podcasting
      > > community. Podcasters have already been issued cease and desist in
      > > the past.
      > >
      > > But to this date I have heard of no tenants or amendments to at
      > > least two of
      > > these organizations licenses that allow one to play music under the
      > > control
      > > of the RIAA and make it available for download. Until the time that
      > > podcasters can legally be 100% protected under the law in playing
      > RIAA
      > > controlled music there will be no category on the Podcast Awards
      > > site that
      > > recognizes shows that are technically breaking the law.
      > >
      > > That being said I think it sucks that there is no way for a
      > > podcaster to be
      > > able to 100% protect themselves in playing RIAA controlled music.
      > > The big
      > > hangup remains that the media is a physical download which could
      > > allow a
      > > person to be able to get the track for free and not have to pay the
      > > artist
      > > for the music.
      > >
      > > > >
      > > > > Once again the Podcast Awards snubs those shows that play music
      > > which
      > > > > requires an ASCAP, BMI or SESAC license. Signing up with a
      > > license at
      > > > > any of those agencies is the same as registering with PMN - you
      > > > > simply report what you play. Forget Coverville, this leaves out
      > > > > excellent podcasts like the They Might Be Giants podcast, other
      > > non-
      > > > > podsafe band podcasts, and some of the excellent offerings of
      > NPR.
      > > > >
      > >
      > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >
      >
      >



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    • Brian Ibbott
      Sorry - responded before I d read all the replies after this. Greetings from Redundancy-ville. Brian ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      Message 34 of 34 , Jul 11, 2007
        Sorry - responded before I'd read all the replies after this.

        Greetings from Redundancy-ville.

        Brian


        On Jul 11, 2007, at 10:52 AM, Brian Ibbott wrote:

        > But you're wrong.
        >
        > There is a level between the two instances you describe. The
        > excellent They Might Be Giants podcast plays licensed music that they
        > have permission to play - as it's their label.
        >
        > The terrific a cappella podcasts A Cappella U, and the Acapodcast
        > play songs that they have FULL PERMISSION to play from the
        > performers, and they pay ASCAP, BMI and SESAC which legally allows
        > them to play these songs, giving deserved stipends to the songwriters
        > of the music they play.
        >
        > As does Coverville.
        >
        > This is why the Podsafe term is limited in it's definition.
        >
        > Brian
        >
        > On Jul 4, 2007, at 11:41 PM, Todd Cochrane wrote:
        >
        > > The issue here is there are a handful of shows that play RIAA
        > > controlled
        > > music, the very high majority play music that will not get the sued
        > > by the
        > > RIAA and if a podcaster today. There is only one of those license
        > > organizations that even remotely have any language in their
        > licensing
        > > provisions that protect a podcaster. The very simple fact is this
        > > if you
        > > play RIAA controlled music in your podcast and make that file
        > > available for
        > > "download" it is not at all podsafe and the podcaster can have his
        > > butt
        > > hauled into court just as fast a person sharing file in peer to
        > peer.
        > >
        > > Podcasting has it tenants in podcasters playing podsafe music you
        > > can try
        > > and get a license from all of these organizations but guess what
        > > unless your
        > > are streaming your podcast versus allowing it to be downloaded
        > > there is no
        > > safety net. To think otherwise is being very ignorant. This has
        > > been looked
        > > at by a variety of lawyers that are well respected in the podcasting
        > > community. Podcasters have already been issued cease and desist in
        > > the past.
        > >
        > > But to this date I have heard of no tenants or amendments to at
        > > least two of
        > > these organizations licenses that allow one to play music under the
        > > control
        > > of the RIAA and make it available for download. Until the time that
        > > podcasters can legally be 100% protected under the law in playing
        > RIAA
        > > controlled music there will be no category on the Podcast Awards
        > > site that
        > > recognizes shows that are technically breaking the law.
        > >
        > > That being said I think it sucks that there is no way for a
        > > podcaster to be
        > > able to 100% protect themselves in playing RIAA controlled music.
        > > The big
        > > hangup remains that the media is a physical download which could
        > > allow a
        > > person to be able to get the track for free and not have to pay the
        > > artist
        > > for the music.
        > >
        > > > >
        > > > > Once again the Podcast Awards snubs those shows that play music
        > > which
        > > > > requires an ASCAP, BMI or SESAC license. Signing up with a
        > > license at
        > > > > any of those agencies is the same as registering with PMN - you
        > > > > simply report what you play. Forget Coverville, this leaves out
        > > > > excellent podcasts like the They Might Be Giants podcast, other
        > > non-
        > > > > podsafe band podcasts, and some of the excellent offerings of
        > NPR.
        > > > >
        > >
        > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        > >
        > >
        > >
        >
        > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        >
        >
        >



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