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  • Paul Campbell
    ... Of hand I can think of three reasons: 1) There might be a podcast directory or podcast client that can t handle a URL that long 2) Not easy to remember.
    Message 1 of 23 , Jun 1, 2007
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      On 6/1/07, Michael W. Dean <kittyfeet70@...> wrote:
      >
      > OK, I've finally decided to take Feedburner seriously....mainly
      > because Google bought them out, and I trust Google not to go out of
      > business.
      >
      > I went on a created a feed for Submission and Coffee.
      > The automatically generated feed
      >
      > http://feeds.feedburner.com/SubmissionAndCoffeeWithDollieLlamaABdsmCommunityServicePodcastGlorifyingMarriageThroughPodcastingrat
      > is pretty darned long. Is there any reason NOT to use one that long?


      Of hand I can think of three reasons:

      1) There might be a podcast directory or podcast client that can't handle a
      URL that long
      2) Not easy to remember. May not be a problem if you are redirecting (307)
      a shorter URL to this one.
      3) You can add all those keywords elsewhere in feedburner. They don't have
      to be in the title for search engines to see them.

      Take my opinions with a grain of salt - I've only got one episode under my
      belt and I couldn't even say much that yesterday.

      -
      Paul

      If not, I'll keep it. I like it because it contains words that might
      > work in a search engine and would, at least, be descriptive of the cast.
      >
      > I am hesitant to change it because 8 people have already subscribed to
      > the feed and I don't want to lose them. But if it's going to be a
      > logistical problem for any reason, better I suppose to change it now
      > than later. thoughts on leaving it?
      >
      > I added a Feedburner link to this URL on the site for the podcast. The
      > thing I can't understand is are people only subscribing to it from my
      > link on my site, or do people somehow also subscribe to it from the
      > Feedburner site?
      >
      > I guess I can't really figure out what Feedburner is or what it does,
      > though it does seem to drive traffic to people's podcasts. Can someone
      > give a quick and dirty explanation for me please, or point me to a URL
      > of posts on this board? (I know it's been done on this site before,
      > but I can't find it. A search of "Feedburner" on this board brings up
      > 2994 posts.)
      >
      > I guess I'm trying to figure out how to get more listeners, we've been
      > at, average 1200 downloads per episode for several months, it seems to
      > have hit a glass ceiling somehow. Would love to drive it up a bit.
      >
      > Any help figuring all this out is appreciated.
      >
      > Thank you!
      > MWD
      >
      > "SUBMISSION AND COFFEE WITH DOLLIE LLAMA" (free BDSM podcast. No iPod
      > needed):
      > http://www.askdollie.com
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > Yahoo! Groups Links
      >
      >
      >
      >


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      Paul W. Campbell
      * IM - AIM: kemitix / MSN: paul@... / Yahoo: kemitixii
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      http://estalvinslegacy.info/)
      ** Promo: http://cossmass.co.uk/series/estalvinslegacy/promo1


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    • Michael W. Dean
      ... http://feeds.feedburner.com/SubmissionAndCoffeeWithDollieLlamaABdsmCommunityServicePodcastGlorifyingMarriageThroughPodcastingrat ... handle a ... == you re
      Message 2 of 23 , Jun 1, 2007
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        --- In podcasters@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Campbell" <kemitix@...> wrote:
        >
        > On 6/1/07, Michael W. Dean <kittyfeet70@...> wrote:
        > >
        > > OK, I've finally decided to take Feedburner seriously....mainly
        > > because Google bought them out, and I trust Google not to go out of
        > > business.
        > >
        > > I went on a created a feed for Submission and Coffee.
        > > The automatically generated feed
        > >
        > >
        http://feeds.feedburner.com/SubmissionAndCoffeeWithDollieLlamaABdsmCommunityServicePodcastGlorifyingMarriageThroughPodcastingrat
        > > is pretty darned long. Is there any reason NOT to use one that long?
        >
        >
        > Of hand I can think of three reasons:
        >
        > 1) There might be a podcast directory or podcast client that can't
        handle a
        > URL that long

        ==
        you're new but you're smart.
        That's a really good point, one I hadn't considered.

        I changed the feed on feedburner to
        http://feeds.feedburner.com/SubmissionAndCoffee

        and now both of them work actually, so I don't think I'll lose those
        first 8 subscribers...It seems feedburner rolls it over for you if you
        change it.

        I changed the link on my site too.

        I still have all the other questions posted in the first post, if
        anyone can help with them.



        Thanks!
      • David Smith
        ... Wait, Google bought Feedburner -and- Google bought Libsyn? ... I don t know for sure if there s an important reason -- but my (rather odd) feed reader
        Message 3 of 23 , Jun 1, 2007
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          It was 1 Jun 2007, when Michael W. Dean commented:

          > OK, I've finally decided to take Feedburner seriously....mainly
          > because Google bought them out, and I trust Google not to go out of
          > business.

          Wait, Google bought Feedburner -and- Google bought Libsyn?

          > I went on a created a feed for Submission and Coffee.
          > The automatically generated feed
          > http://feeds.feedburner.com/SubmissionAndCoffeeWithDollieLlamaABdsmCommunit
          > yServicePodcastGlorifyingMarriageThroughPodcastingrat is pretty darned
          > long. Is there any reason NOT to use one that long?

          I don't know for sure if there's an important reason -- but my (rather
          odd) feed reader would probably choke on something that long. I think my
          email clien (Pegasus) managed to truncate it.

          > If not, I'll keep it. I like it because it contains words that might
          > work in a search engine and would, at least, be descriptive of the cast.

          Yeahbut, Feedburner supplies a number of tools to put in more useful tags.

          > I am hesitant to change it because 8 people have already subscribed to the
          > feed and I don't want to lose them. But if it's going to be a logistical
          > problem for any reason, better I suppose to change it now than later.
          > thoughts on leaving it?

          I'd go ahead and shorten it, because I don't think the name of the feed is
          that important for searchable info.

          > I added a Feedburner link to this URL on the site for the podcast. The
          > thing I can't understand is are people only subscribing to it from my link
          > on my site, or do people somehow also subscribe to it from the Feedburner
          > site?

          I forget if you're hosting on Libsyn. I have told Libsyn to point my feed
          address from Libsyn, <http://grizzly.libsyn.com/rss>, to my feed on
          Feedburner -- so subscribers to the former get their feeds from the latter
          in any case. I don' tknow if anyone is still subcribed through the Libsyn
          address, but the feeding is done by Feedburner in any case.

          > I guess I can't really figure out what Feedburner is or what it does,
          > though it does seem to drive traffic to people's podcasts. Can someone give
          > a quick and dirty explanation for me please, or point me to a URL of posts
          > on this board? (I know it's been done on this site before, but I can't find
          > it. A search of "Feedburner" on this board brings up 2994 posts.)

          There are likely features of Feedburner I'm not using right or not aware
          of. Lemme run off from memory what I've found useful:

          . Feed Statistics. Feedburner does an apparently good job of tracking
          who's doing what with my feed and my files. I dunno if the stats miss
          anything, but there sure are a lot of them.

          . Site Statistics. Put a little javascript entry on my Libsyn site, and
          every time someone visits the site, it shows up in site stats on
          Feedburner. Also any time somebody does a search and finds my site (on
          Google, for example), I hear about it in my Site stats. Interesting to
          see what searches I turn up in.

          . Flexibility of feed. Rather than the usual unintelligible XML when one
          clicks on the Feed link, one gets a readable and useable page that allows
          for a vast variety of feed options, including an email feed. I have
          subscribers receiving both my podcast and my (Blogger) blog via email.
          (And all of a sudden, all aspects of my feeds are owned by Google. Don't
          know how I feel about that.)

          . Headline Animators. I have a little widget on both my podcast and blog
          pages with animated displays of the headlines of each, and an option to
          subscribe. If you have other sites wherefrom you could be promoted, you
          could have a headline animator on those sites, and gain new subscribers
          that way.

          . Pinging. Libsyn pings the Big Three agregators. Feedburner pings over
          a dozen (selectable) aggregators and whatnot.

          . "Feed Flares." I can have over a dozen different clickable options
          included in the feed, some for feedback, some for user promotion of the
          show on various discussion venues, some of which I'd never heard of, but I
          guess the Kids These Days know what they are. To me, they clutter the
          feed up a bit, but I guess it's Trendy.

          And there's other stuff that, well, I don't know what they do, or I do but
          don't want to spoil all the suprises. <grin>

          > I guess I'm trying to figure out how to get more listeners, we've been at,
          > average 1200 downloads per episode for several months, it seems to have hit
          > a glass ceiling somehow. Would love to drive it up a bit.
          >
          > Any help figuring all this out is appreciated.

          FWIW, since I average 20 downloads per episode, I dunno if it all scales
          well. But it sure seems like it ought to be useful stuff. Also, since I
          handle both my blog and my podcast through there, I get my stats side-by-
          side, and tools that allow using one to promote the other.

          As I recall, too, you were looking for a way to provide a link to a newer
          show you do that doesn't route through your current "Dollie" weblink. You
          could just point folks to your feedburner feed, which in turn points back
          to your original feed, and provides a bunch of "value added" features.

          I think you'll like it. With a minor caveat: I keep waiting for the other
          shoe to drop, and to find out why Feedburner is a really bad idea. Maybe
          being bought by Google is the other shoe. We'll see.

          --
          Grizzly <grizzly at grizzly.podzone.org>
          Podcast:
          <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
          Blog:
          <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
          The Life and Times of a Minor Local Celebrity
        • Steven R. Boyett
          Wizzard Media bought Libsyn. Steven R. Boyett www.steveboy.com
          Message 4 of 23 , Jun 1, 2007
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            <<Wait, Google bought Feedburner -and- Google bought Libsyn?>>
            Wizzard Media bought Libsyn.

            Steven R. Boyett
            www.steveboy.com <http://www.steveboy.com/>
            "Avarice never wrote a good novel;
            hate did not paint The Birth of Venus."
            --Harper Lee

            Podcasts: "Podrunner" / "Groovelectric"
            www.djsteveboy.com <http://www.djsteveboy.com/>

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            From: David Smith [mailto:dbsmith01@...]
            Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 7:42 PM
            To: podcasters@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: Re: [podcasters] Feedburner help

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          • David Smith
            ... Yeah, I figured that out today. Google s provided info on their plans for Feedburner makes my brain itch; I don t get exactly how things are going to
            Message 5 of 23 , Jun 3, 2007
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              It was 1 Jun 2007, when Steven R. Boyett commented:

              > <<Wait, Google bought Feedburner -and- Google bought Libsyn?>>
              > Wizzard Media bought Libsyn.

              Yeah, I figured that out today. Google's provided info on their plans for
              Feedburner makes my brain itch; I don't get exactly how things are going
              to change there, with all their talk about feed-based advertising. When I
              saw a link right on the sign-in page to opt out of the service entirely by
              June 15, alarm bells started going off.

              And I don't even want to look into this Wizzard Media thing. I like
              Feedburner, but I need Libsyn. But maybe it'll all be okay.

              <sigh>

              --
              Grizzly <grizzly at grizzly.podzone.org>
              Podcast:
              <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
              Blog:
              <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
              The Life and Times of a Minor Local Celebrity
            • marshallkirkpatrick
              Here s a post on how and why to use Feedburner. got enough inbound links that it s the #1 google result for both questions
              Message 6 of 23 , Jun 3, 2007
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                Here's a post on how and why to use Feedburner. got enough inbound links that it's the
                #1 google result for both questions
                http://marshallk.com/how-and-why-to-use-feedburner


                --- In podcasters@yahoogroups.com, "David Smith" <dbsmith@...> wrote:
                >
                > It was 1 Jun 2007, when Steven R. Boyett commented:
                >
                > > <<Wait, Google bought Feedburner -and- Google bought Libsyn?>>
                > > Wizzard Media bought Libsyn.
                >
                > Yeah, I figured that out today. Google's provided info on their plans for
                > Feedburner makes my brain itch; I don't get exactly how things are going
                > to change there, with all their talk about feed-based advertising. When I
                > saw a link right on the sign-in page to opt out of the service entirely by
                > June 15, alarm bells started going off.
                >
                > And I don't even want to look into this Wizzard Media thing. I like
                > Feedburner, but I need Libsyn. But maybe it'll all be okay.
                >
                > <sigh>
                >
                > --
                > Grizzly <grizzly at grizzly.podzone.org>
                > Podcast:
                > <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                > Blog:
                > <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                > The Life and Times of a Minor Local Celebrity
                >
              • Todd Cochrane
                I have been pretty vocal about FeedBurner over the past couple of years and while I am sure some people are happy with the Google acquisition it does bring
                Message 7 of 23 , Jun 4, 2007
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                  I have been pretty vocal about FeedBurner over the past couple of years and
                  while I am sure some people are happy with the Google acquisition it does
                  bring home some points I have been warning people a long time about. I have
                  had at least a 100 emails from podcasters asking me how to get their users
                  back on their own feeds on their own domains. I tell them to contact
                  FeedBurner about setting up a redirect back to their original feed. But I am
                  afraid no mater what those that will quit using their service is going to
                  end up loosing listeners over the transition unless they are paying for the
                  feeds.mydomain.com service they had.



                  Todd..



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                  From: podcasters@yahoogroups.com [mailto:podcasters@yahoogroups.com] On
                  Behalf Of David Smith
                  Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 8:50 PM
                  To: podcasters@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: RE: [podcasters] Feedburner help



                  It was 1 Jun 2007, when Steven R. Boyett commented:

                  > <<Wait, Google bought Feedburner -and- Google bought Libsyn?>>
                  > Wizzard Media bought Libsyn.

                  Yeah, I figured that out today. Google's provided info on their plans for
                  Feedburner makes my brain itch; I don't get exactly how things are going
                  to change there, with all their talk about feed-based advertising. When I
                  saw a link right on the sign-in page to opt out of the service entirely by
                  June 15, alarm bells started going off.

                  And I don't even want to look into this Wizzard Media thing. I like
                  Feedburner, but I need Libsyn. But maybe it'll all be okay.

                  <sigh>

                  --
                  Grizzly <grizzly at grizzly.podzone.org>
                  Podcast:
                  <http://feeds. <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                  feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                  Blog:
                  <http://feeds. <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                  feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                  The Life and Times of a Minor Local Celebrity





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                • David Smith
                  ... Thanks, and I did take a look at it. I m down with using Feedburner. I may even have everything working correctly on my (Libsyn) podcast and (Blogger)
                  Message 8 of 23 , Jun 4, 2007
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                    It was 4 Jun 2007, when marshallkirkpatrick commented:

                    > Here's a post on how and why to use Feedburner. got enough inbound links
                    > that it's the #1 google result for both questions
                    > http://marshallk.com/how-and-why-to-use-feedburner

                    Thanks, and I did take a look at it. I'm down with using Feedburner. I
                    may even have everything working correctly on my (Libsyn) podcast and
                    (Blogger) blog feeds. I'm using most of the features I could figure out.

                    I'm just worried about what might change with Feedburner owned by Google.



                    --
                    Grizzly <grizzly at grizzly.podzone.org>
                    Podcast:
                    <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                    Blog:
                    <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                    The Life and Times of a Minor Local Celebrity
                  • Steph
                    About this ad buisiness, are they putting ads on the feed (though I can t imagine how they would O.o) or on the pages or what? *frowns*
                    Message 9 of 23 , Jun 4, 2007
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                      About this ad buisiness, are they putting ads on the feed (though I can't
                      imagine how they would O.o) or on the pages or what? *frowns*
                      >
                      > _____
                      >
                      > From: podcasters@yahoogroups.com [mailto:podcasters@yahoogroups.com] On
                      > Behalf Of David Smith
                      > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 8:50 PM
                      > To: podcasters@yahoogroups.com
                      > Subject: RE: [podcasters] Feedburner help
                      >
                      >
                      > It was 1 Jun 2007, when Steven R. Boyett commented:
                      >
                      >> <<Wait, Google bought Feedburner -and- Google bought Libsyn?>>
                      >> Wizzard Media bought Libsyn.
                      >
                      > Yeah, I figured that out today. Google's provided info on their plans for
                      > Feedburner makes my brain itch; I don't get exactly how things are going
                      > to change there, with all their talk about feed-based advertising. When I
                      > saw a link right on the sign-in page to opt out of the service entirely
                      > by
                      > June 15, alarm bells started going off.
                      >
                      > And I don't even want to look into this Wizzard Media thing. I like
                      > Feedburner, but I need Libsyn. But maybe it'll all be okay.
                      >
                      > <sigh>
                      >
                    • Todd Cochrane
                      If you want to see what some of the changes are then read a notice all members are getting http://www.geeknewscentral.com/archives/007073.html not sure I want
                      Message 10 of 23 , Jun 4, 2007
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                        If you want to see what some of the changes are then read a notice all
                        members are getting http://www.geeknewscentral.com/archives/007073.html not
                        sure I want my data rights given to Google.



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                        From: podcasters@yahoogroups.com [mailto:podcasters@yahoogroups.com] On
                        Behalf Of David Smith
                        Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:00 PM
                        To: podcasters@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: Re: [podcasters] Re: Feedburner help



                        It was 4 Jun 2007, when marshallkirkpatrick commented:

                        > Here's a post on how and why to use Feedburner. got enough inbound links
                        > that it's the #1 google result for both questions
                        > http://marshallk. <http://marshallk.com/how-and-why-to-use-feedburner>
                        com/how-and-why-to-use-feedburner

                        Thanks, and I did take a look at it. I'm down with using Feedburner. I
                        may even have everything working correctly on my (Libsyn) podcast and
                        (Blogger) blog feeds. I'm using most of the features I could figure out.

                        I'm just worried about what might change with Feedburner owned by Google.

                        --
                        Grizzly <grizzly at grizzly.podzone.org>
                        Podcast:
                        <http://feeds. <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                        feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                        Blog:
                        <http://feeds. <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                        feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                        The Life and Times of a Minor Local Celebrity





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                      • Michael W. Dean
                        ... http://www.geeknewscentral.com/archives/007073.html not ... ===== Bleah! That sounds creepy. I just started using Feedburner, and currently 0 subscribers
                        Message 11 of 23 , Jun 4, 2007
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                          --- In podcasters@yahoogroups.com, "Todd Cochrane" <geeknews@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > If you want to see what some of the changes are then read a notice all
                          > members are getting
                          http://www.geeknewscentral.com/archives/007073.html not
                          > sure I want my data rights given to Google.
                          >
                          >

                          =====
                          Bleah! That sounds creepy.

                          I just started using Feedburner, and currently 0 subscribers through
                          them. (all my subscribers are from iTunes or from my web site.)

                          Maybe I should just stop using Feedburner now, and take the links off
                          my site.

                          Thoughts?

                          MWD
                        • Todd Cochrane
                          It s a personal preference thing, they have some nice features but I value my brand higher than allowing someone else to control my rss feed. The large
                          Message 12 of 23 , Jun 4, 2007
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                            It's a personal preference thing, they have some nice features but I value
                            my brand higher than allowing someone else to control my rss feed. The large
                            majority of people really like their service.



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                            From: podcasters@yahoogroups.com [mailto:podcasters@yahoogroups.com] On
                            Behalf Of Michael W. Dean
                            Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:32 PM
                            To: podcasters@yahoogroups.com
                            Subject: [podcasters] Re: Feedburner help



                            --- In podcasters@yahoogro <mailto:podcasters%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com,
                            "Todd Cochrane" <geeknews@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > If you want to see what some of the changes are then read a notice all
                            > members are getting
                            http://www.geeknews <http://www.geeknewscentral.com/archives/007073.html>
                            central.com/archives/007073.html not
                            > sure I want my data rights given to Google.
                            >
                            >

                            =====
                            Bleah! That sounds creepy.

                            I just started using Feedburner, and currently 0 subscribers through
                            them. (all my subscribers are from iTunes or from my web site.)

                            Maybe I should just stop using Feedburner now, and take the links off
                            my site.

                            Thoughts?

                            MWD





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                          • Michael W. Dean
                            ... value ... ==== That s why I ve avoided it for so long. And I generally trust Google, so when I heard they bought it, I figured, I ll give it a shot. But
                            Message 13 of 23 , Jun 4, 2007
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                              --- In podcasters@yahoogroups.com, "Todd Cochrane" <geeknews@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > It's a personal preference thing, they have some nice features but I
                              value
                              > my brand higher than allowing someone else to control my rss feed. ..

                              ====
                              That's why I've avoided it for so long. And I generally trust Google,
                              so when I heard they bought it, I figured, "I'll give it a shot."

                              But their policy you mentioned seems iffy.


                              MWD
                            • Dan Kuykendall
                              this blog post just screams out for a rebuttal to crappy reasons listed. 1) There are plenty of stats plugins to every popular blogging platform out there. The
                              Message 14 of 23 , Jun 4, 2007
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                                this blog post just screams out for a rebuttal to crappy reasons listed.

                                1) There are plenty of stats plugins to every popular blogging platform
                                out there. The way this is phrased makes it seem like only feedburner
                                gives you this data

                                2) Actually, I find it the opposite. With IE7 and Firefox2 which have
                                RSS readers and dont use the stylesheet anymore... the feedburner pages
                                are standard and all the template stuff with the helpful info is
                                completely lost. This lack of control is exactly why feedburner tends to
                                be a bad choice

                                3) Again, this is easy to accomplish on popular blogging platforms.

                                4) These features are also available in other popular blogging
                                platforms. And there is no need to manage separate settings and
                                additional steps if you just have users go to your direct feed

                                5) As long as you maintain domains you wont lose subscribers. But if
                                your using feedburner and then decide to stop... you will certainly lose
                                some subscribers. And now that they are owned by google, Im even more
                                wary of the havoc they can reap.

                                Additionally feedburner has caused so many problems for people its
                                amazing its still as popular as it is. I know software has bugs, and
                                podPress has caused some feed errors from time to time. But at least
                                when podpress does it, its only to a single blog and rolling back to an
                                older version can be done to get back up. When feedburner has caused
                                problems, and my users freak out... theres nothing that can be done
                                except wait and hope things get fixed soon.

                                Now keep in mind, I dont care if people want to use feedburner, and I
                                dont have any real animosity toward them. They are a good solution for
                                some... but I want people to understand what benefits and what
                                heartaches they provide so that users can make informed choices.

                                --
                                Dan Kuykendall (aka Seek3r)
                                http://www.mightyseek.com

                                In God we trust, all others we virus scan.
                                Programmer - an organism that turns coffee into software.


                                marshallkirkpatrick wrote:
                                > Here's a post on how and why to use Feedburner. got enough inbound links that it's the
                                > #1 google result for both questions
                                > http://marshallk.com/how-and-why-to-use-feedburner
                                >
                                >
                                > --- In podcasters@yahoogroups.com, "David Smith" <dbsmith@...> wrote:
                                >> It was 1 Jun 2007, when Steven R. Boyett commented:
                                >>
                                >>> <<Wait, Google bought Feedburner -and- Google bought Libsyn?>>
                                >>> Wizzard Media bought Libsyn.
                                >> Yeah, I figured that out today. Google's provided info on their plans for
                                >> Feedburner makes my brain itch; I don't get exactly how things are going
                                >> to change there, with all their talk about feed-based advertising. When I
                                >> saw a link right on the sign-in page to opt out of the service entirely by
                                >> June 15, alarm bells started going off.
                                >>
                                >> And I don't even want to look into this Wizzard Media thing. I like
                                >> Feedburner, but I need Libsyn. But maybe it'll all be okay.
                                >>
                                >> <sigh>
                                >>
                                >> --
                                >> Grizzly <grizzly at grizzly.podzone.org>
                                >> Podcast:
                                >> <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                                >> Blog:
                                >> <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                                >> The Life and Times of a Minor Local Celebrity
                                >>
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > Yahoo! Groups Links
                                >
                                >
                                >
                              • Todd Cochrane
                                Dan You and I are on the same page but Marshall is a fan of the product so you are not going to convince him or a lot of other people otherwise. At RawVoice We
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                                  Dan



                                  You and I are on the same page but Marshall is a fan of the product so you
                                  are not going to convince him or a lot of other people otherwise. At
                                  RawVoice We actually poll FeedBurner feeds on a different schedule we have
                                  to give the feeds longer to load because we used to get so many timeouts
                                  that it caused server loading. Average website RSS feed loads in about 2-7
                                  seconds. The feedburner feeds has forced us to increase the feed load time
                                  to as long as 40 seconds. Luckily lots of options out there.



                                  Todd



                                  _____

                                  From: podcasters@yahoogroups.com [mailto:podcasters@yahoogroups.com] On
                                  Behalf Of Dan Kuykendall
                                  Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 11:13 PM
                                  To: podcasters@yahoogroups.com
                                  Subject: Re: [podcasters] Re: Feedburner help



                                  this blog post just screams out for a rebuttal to crappy reasons listed.

                                  1) There are plenty of stats plugins to every popular blogging platform
                                  out there. The way this is phrased makes it seem like only feedburner
                                  gives you this data

                                  2) Actually, I find it the opposite. With IE7 and Firefox2 which have
                                  RSS readers and dont use the stylesheet anymore... the feedburner pages
                                  are standard and all the template stuff with the helpful info is
                                  completely lost. This lack of control is exactly why feedburner tends to
                                  be a bad choice

                                  3) Again, this is easy to accomplish on popular blogging platforms.

                                  4) These features are also available in other popular blogging
                                  platforms. And there is no need to manage separate settings and
                                  additional steps if you just have users go to your direct feed

                                  5) As long as you maintain domains you wont lose subscribers. But if
                                  your using feedburner and then decide to stop... you will certainly lose
                                  some subscribers. And now that they are owned by google, Im even more
                                  wary of the havoc they can reap.

                                  Additionally feedburner has caused so many problems for people its
                                  amazing its still as popular as it is. I know software has bugs, and
                                  podPress has caused some feed errors from time to time. But at least
                                  when podpress does it, its only to a single blog and rolling back to an
                                  older version can be done to get back up. When feedburner has caused
                                  problems, and my users freak out... theres nothing that can be done
                                  except wait and hope things get fixed soon.

                                  Now keep in mind, I dont care if people want to use feedburner, and I
                                  dont have any real animosity toward them. They are a good solution for
                                  some... but I want people to understand what benefits and what
                                  heartaches they provide so that users can make informed choices.

                                  --
                                  Dan Kuykendall (aka Seek3r)
                                  http://www.mightyse <http://www.mightyseek.com> ek.com

                                  In God we trust, all others we virus scan.
                                  Programmer - an organism that turns coffee into software.

                                  marshallkirkpatrick wrote:
                                  > Here's a post on how and why to use Feedburner. got enough inbound links
                                  that it's the
                                  > #1 google result for both questions
                                  > http://marshallk. <http://marshallk.com/how-and-why-to-use-feedburner>
                                  com/how-and-why-to-use-feedburner
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > --- In podcasters@yahoogro <mailto:podcasters%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com,
                                  "David Smith" <dbsmith@...> wrote:
                                  >> It was 1 Jun 2007, when Steven R. Boyett commented:
                                  >>
                                  >>> <<Wait, Google bought Feedburner -and- Google bought Libsyn?>>
                                  >>> Wizzard Media bought Libsyn.
                                  >> Yeah, I figured that out today. Google's provided info on their plans for

                                  >> Feedburner makes my brain itch; I don't get exactly how things are going
                                  >> to change there, with all their talk about feed-based advertising. When I

                                  >> saw a link right on the sign-in page to opt out of the service entirely
                                  by
                                  >> June 15, alarm bells started going off.
                                  >>
                                  >> And I don't even want to look into this Wizzard Media thing. I like
                                  >> Feedburner, but I need Libsyn. But maybe it'll all be okay.
                                  >>
                                  >> <sigh>
                                  >>
                                  >> --
                                  >> Grizzly <grizzly at grizzly.podzone.org>
                                  >> Podcast:
                                  >> <http://feeds. <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                                  feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                                  >> Blog:
                                  >> <http://feeds. <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                                  feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                                  >> The Life and Times of a Minor Local Celebrity
                                  >>
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > Yahoo! Groups Links
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >





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                                • Steven R. Boyett
                                  Can you point me to the info Google has provided regarding their plans for feed-based advertising? Cuz I think it s gonna change the whole game; Google has
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                                    Can you point me to the info Google has provided regarding their plans for
                                    feed-based advertising? Cuz I think it's gonna change the whole game; Google
                                    has cred that nobody else attempting this does, and I'm very eager to find
                                    out what they've got cooking.

                                    _____

                                    From: David Smith [mailto:dbsmith@...]
                                    Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 11:50 PM
                                    To: podcasters@yahoogroups.com
                                    Subject: RE: [podcasters] Feedburner help



                                    It was 1 Jun 2007, when Steven R. Boyett commented:

                                    > <<Wait, Google bought Feedburner -and- Google bought Libsyn?>>
                                    > Wizzard Media bought Libsyn.

                                    Yeah, I figured that out today. Google's provided info on their plans for
                                    Feedburner makes my brain itch; I don't get exactly how things are going
                                    to change there, with all their talk about feed-based advertising. When I
                                    saw a link right on the sign-in page to opt out of the service entirely by
                                    June 15, alarm bells started going off.

                                    And I don't even want to look into this Wizzard Media thing. I like
                                    Feedburner, but I need Libsyn. But maybe it'll all be okay.

                                    <sigh>

                                    --
                                    Grizzly <grizzly at grizzly.podzone.org>
                                    Podcast:
                                    <http://feeds. <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                                    feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                                    Blog:
                                    <http://feeds. <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                                    feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                                    The Life and Times of a Minor Local Celebrity






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                                  • Katronix Serf
                                    And Google owning it, is different than FeedBurner owning it how? ... --
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                                      And Google owning it, is different than FeedBurner owning it how?

                                      Todd Cochrane wrote:
                                      >
                                      > If you want to see what some of the changes are then read a notice all
                                      > members are getting
                                      > http://www.geeknewscentral.com/archives/007073.html
                                      > <http://www.geeknewscentral.com/archives/007073.html> not
                                      > sure I want my data rights given to Google.
                                      >
                                      > _____
                                      >
                                      > From: podcasters@yahoogroups.com <mailto:podcasters%40yahoogroups.com>
                                      > [mailto:podcasters@yahoogroups.com
                                      > <mailto:podcasters%40yahoogroups.com>] On
                                      > Behalf Of David Smith
                                      > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:00 PM
                                      > To: podcasters@yahoogroups.com <mailto:podcasters%40yahoogroups.com>
                                      > Subject: Re: [podcasters] Re: Feedburner help
                                      >
                                      > It was 4 Jun 2007, when marshallkirkpatrick commented:
                                      >
                                      > > Here's a post on how and why to use Feedburner. got enough inbound links
                                      > > that it's the #1 google result for both questions
                                      > > http://marshallk.
                                      > <http://marshallk.com/how-and-why-to-use-feedburner
                                      > <http://marshallk.com/how-and-why-to-use-feedburner>>
                                      > com/how-and-why-to-use-feedburner
                                      >
                                      > Thanks, and I did take a look at it. I'm down with using Feedburner. I
                                      > may even have everything working correctly on my (Libsyn) podcast and
                                      > (Blogger) blog feeds. I'm using most of the features I could figure out.
                                      >
                                      > I'm just worried about what might change with Feedburner owned by Google.
                                      >
                                      > --
                                      > Grizzly <grizzly at grizzly.podzone.org>
                                      > Podcast:
                                      > <http://feeds. <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls
                                      > <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>>
                                      > feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                                      > Blog:
                                      > <http://feeds. <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysblog
                                      > <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>>
                                      > feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                                      > The Life and Times of a Minor Local Celebrity
                                      >
                                      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                      >
                                      >

                                      --
                                      <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/katsplace"><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/katsplace.gif" style="border:0" alt="Kat's Place podcast"/></a>
                                    • Todd Cochrane
                                      The question that needs to be asked, did FeedBurner have the same clause in their TOS before the acquisition. Not sure I would ever give up the rights to the
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                                        The question that needs to be asked, did FeedBurner have the same clause in
                                        their TOS before the acquisition. Not sure I would ever give up the rights
                                        to the data I create to a third party just to use a service.



                                        _____

                                        From: podcasters@yahoogroups.com [mailto:podcasters@yahoogroups.com] On
                                        Behalf Of Katronix Serf
                                        Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 6:42 AM
                                        To: podcasters@yahoogroups.com
                                        Subject: Re: [podcasters] Re: Feedburner help



                                        And Google owning it, is different than FeedBurner owning it how?

                                        Todd Cochrane wrote:
                                        >
                                        > If you want to see what some of the changes are then read a notice all
                                        > members are getting
                                        > http://www.geeknews <http://www.geeknewscentral.com/archives/007073.html>
                                        central.com/archives/007073.html
                                        > <http://www.geeknews <http://www.geeknewscentral.com/archives/007073.html>
                                        central.com/archives/007073.html> not
                                        > sure I want my data rights given to Google.
                                        >
                                        > _____
                                        >
                                        > From: podcasters@yahoogro <mailto:podcasters%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
                                        <mailto:podcasters%40yahoogroups.com>
                                        > [mailto:podcasters@yahoogro <mailto:podcasters%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
                                        > <mailto:podcasters%40yahoogroups.com>] On
                                        > Behalf Of David Smith
                                        > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:00 PM
                                        > To: podcasters@yahoogro <mailto:podcasters%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
                                        <mailto:podcasters%40yahoogroups.com>
                                        > Subject: Re: [podcasters] Re: Feedburner help
                                        >
                                        > It was 4 Jun 2007, when marshallkirkpatrick commented:
                                        >
                                        > > Here's a post on how and why to use Feedburner. got enough inbound links
                                        > > that it's the #1 google result for both questions
                                        > > http://marshallk.
                                        > <http://marshallk. <http://marshallk.com/how-and-why-to-use-feedburner>
                                        com/how-and-why-to-use-feedburner
                                        > <http://marshallk. <http://marshallk.com/how-and-why-to-use-feedburner>
                                        com/how-and-why-to-use-feedburner>>
                                        > com/how-and-why-to-use-feedburner
                                        >
                                        > Thanks, and I did take a look at it. I'm down with using Feedburner. I
                                        > may even have everything working correctly on my (Libsyn) podcast and
                                        > (Blogger) blog feeds. I'm using most of the features I could figure out.
                                        >
                                        > I'm just worried about what might change with Feedburner owned by Google.
                                        >
                                        > --
                                        > Grizzly <grizzly at grizzly.podzone.org>
                                        > Podcast:
                                        > <http://feeds. <http://feeds. <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                                        feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls
                                        > <http://feeds. <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                                        feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>>
                                        > feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                                        > Blog:
                                        > <http://feeds. <http://feeds. <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                                        feedburner.com/grizzlysblog
                                        > <http://feeds. <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                                        feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>>
                                        > feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                                        > The Life and Times of a Minor Local Celebrity
                                        >
                                        > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                        >
                                        >

                                        --
                                        <a href="http://feeds. <http://feeds.feedburner.com/katsplace>
                                        feedburner.com/katsplace"><img src="http://feeds.
                                        <http://feeds.feedburner.com/katsplace.gif> feedburner.com/katsplace.gif"
                                        style="border:0" alt="Kat's Place podcast"/></a>





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                                      • Steven R. Boyett
                                        I just see that users have granted them the right to use the feed along with the attendant services, stats, etc. I don t see where rights to feed content go to
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                                          I just see that users have granted them the right to use the feed along with
                                          the attendant services, stats, etc. I don't see where rights to feed content
                                          go to feedburner. All of this is coming out of a blog entry that is making
                                          melodrama out of the word "rights," where rights doesn't seem to apply
                                          itself to intellectual property contained in the feed itself, merely use of
                                          the feed. It's turning into a panicky tempest in a teapot. Google has a
                                          pretty solid history of not wanting rights to content, but generating
                                          revenue based on it.

                                          Steve Boyett
                                          www.djsteveboy.com <http://www.djsteveboy.com/>
                                          Podcasts: "Groovelectric" / "Podrunner"



                                          _____

                                          From: Todd Cochrane [mailto:geeknews@...]
                                          Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 10:31 AM
                                          To: podcasters@yahoogroups.com
                                          Subject: RE: [podcasters] Re: Feedburner help



                                          The question that needs to be asked, did FeedBurner have the same clause in
                                          their TOS before the acquisition. Not sure I would ever give up the rights
                                          to the data I create to a third party just to use a service.

                                          _____

                                          From: podcasters@yahoogro <mailto:podcasters%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
                                          [mailto:podcasters@yahoogro <mailto:podcasters%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com]
                                          On
                                          Behalf Of Katronix Serf
                                          Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 6:42 AM
                                          To: podcasters@yahoogro <mailto:podcasters%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
                                          Subject: Re: [podcasters] Re: Feedburner help

                                          And Google owning it, is different than FeedBurner owning it how?

                                          Todd Cochrane wrote:
                                          >
                                          > If you want to see what some of the changes are then read a notice all
                                          > members are getting
                                          > http://www.geeknews <http://www.geeknews
                                          <http://www.geeknewscentral.com/archives/007073.html>
                                          central.com/archives/007073.html>
                                          central.com/archives/007073.html
                                          > <http://www.geeknews <http://www.geeknews
                                          <http://www.geeknewscentral.com/archives/007073.html>
                                          central.com/archives/007073.html>
                                          central.com/archives/007073.html> not
                                          > sure I want my data rights given to Google.
                                          >
                                          > _____
                                          >
                                          > From: podcasters@yahoogro <mailto:podcasters%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
                                          <mailto:podcasters%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          > [mailto:podcasters@yahoogro <mailto:podcasters%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
                                          > <mailto:podcasters%40yahoogroups.com>] On
                                          > Behalf Of David Smith
                                          > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:00 PM
                                          > To: podcasters@yahoogro <mailto:podcasters%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
                                          <mailto:podcasters%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          > Subject: Re: [podcasters] Re: Feedburner help
                                          >
                                          > It was 4 Jun 2007, when marshallkirkpatrick commented:
                                          >
                                          > > Here's a post on how and why to use Feedburner. got enough inbound links
                                          > > that it's the #1 google result for both questions
                                          > > http://marshallk.
                                          > <http://marshallk. <http://marshallk.
                                          <http://marshallk.com/how-and-why-to-use-feedburner>
                                          com/how-and-why-to-use-feedburner>
                                          com/how-and-why-to-use-feedburner
                                          > <http://marshallk. <http://marshallk.
                                          <http://marshallk.com/how-and-why-to-use-feedburner>
                                          com/how-and-why-to-use-feedburner>
                                          com/how-and-why-to-use-feedburner>>
                                          > com/how-and-why-to-use-feedburner
                                          >
                                          > Thanks, and I did take a look at it. I'm down with using Feedburner. I
                                          > may even have everything working correctly on my (Libsyn) podcast and
                                          > (Blogger) blog feeds. I'm using most of the features I could figure out.
                                          >
                                          > I'm just worried about what might change with Feedburner owned by Google.
                                          >
                                          > --
                                          > Grizzly <grizzly at grizzly.podzone.org>
                                          > Podcast:
                                          > <http://feeds. <http://feeds. <http://feeds.
                                          <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls> feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                                          feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls
                                          > <http://feeds. <http://feeds. <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                                          feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                                          feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>>
                                          > feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                                          > Blog:
                                          > <http://feeds. <http://feeds. <http://feeds.
                                          <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysblog> feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                                          feedburner.com/grizzlysblog
                                          > <http://feeds. <http://feeds. <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                                          feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                                          feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>>
                                          > feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                                          > The Life and Times of a Minor Local Celebrity
                                          >
                                          > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                          >
                                          >

                                          --
                                          <a href="http://feeds. <http://feeds.
                                          <http://feeds.feedburner.com/katsplace> feedburner.com/katsplace>
                                          feedburner.com/katsplace"><img src="http://feeds.
                                          <http://feeds. <http://feeds.feedburner.com/katsplace.gif>
                                          feedburner.com/katsplace.gif> feedburner.com/katsplace.gif"
                                          style="border:0" alt="Kat's Place podcast"/></a>

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                                        • David Smith
                                          I had seen the disclaimer, which originally raised my concerns. Also, on the intro page, there s a link to a FAQ about Google s acquisition. You wanna talk
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                                            I had seen the disclaimer, which originally raised my concerns. Also, on
                                            the intro page, there's a link to a FAQ about Google's acquisition. You
                                            wanna talk really scary language...<http://www.feedburner.com/google>

                                            Doesn't seem like Feedburner should have had much in the way of "data
                                            rights" in the first place. On the other hand, we are talking about
                                            Google here. As far as I recall, I've never mentioned Tianemen Square in
                                            my podcast... or on my Blog, hosted on Blogspot, also owned by Google.
                                            <sigh> Makes the fact Microsoft is providing my internet connection
                                            almost comforting.

                                            It was 3 Jun 2007, when Todd Cochrane commented:

                                            > If you want to see what some of the changes are then read a notice all
                                            > members are getting http://www.geeknewscentral.com/archives/007073.html
                                            > not sure I want my data rights given to Google.
                                            > _____
                                            >
                                            > From: podcasters@yahoogroups.com [mailto:podcasters@yahoogroups.com] On
                                            > Behalf Of David Smith Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:00 PM To:
                                            > podcasters@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [podcasters] Re: Feedburner help
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > It was 4 Jun 2007, when marshallkirkpatrick commented:
                                            >
                                            > > Here's a post on how and why to use Feedburner. got enough inbound links
                                            > > that it's the #1 google result for both questions http://marshallk.
                                            > > <http://marshallk.com/how-and-why-to-use-feedburner>
                                            > com/how-and-why-to-use-feedburner
                                            >
                                            > Thanks, and I did take a look at it. I'm down with using Feedburner. I may
                                            > even have everything working correctly on my (Libsyn) podcast and (Blogger)
                                            > blog feeds. I'm using most of the features I could figure out.
                                            >
                                            > I'm just worried about what might change with Feedburner owned by Google.
                                            >
                                            > --
                                            > Grizzly <grizzly at grizzly.podzone.org>
                                            > Podcast:
                                            > <http://feeds. <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                                            > feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                                            > Blog:
                                            > <http://feeds. <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                                            > feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                                            > The Life and Times of a Minor Local Celebrity
                                            --
                                            Grizzly <grizzly at grizzly.podzone.org>
                                            Podcast:
                                            <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                                            Blog:
                                            <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                                            The Life and Times of a Minor Local Celebrity
                                          • David Smith
                                            ... I believe the usual phrasing is adopt a wait-and-see attitude. Sounds like a plan to me. Though I do like getting alla them stats and whatnot. For me,
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                                              It was 4 Jun 2007, when Michael W. Dean commented:


                                              > --- In podcasters@yahoogroups.com, "Todd Cochrane" <geeknews@...> wrote: >
                                              > > If you want to see what some of the changes are then read a notice all >
                                              > members are getting http://www.geeknewscentral.com/archives/007073.html
                                              > not > sure I want my data rights given to Google. > >
                                              >
                                              > =====
                                              > Bleah! That sounds creepy.
                                              >
                                              > I just started using Feedburner, and currently 0 subscribers through
                                              > them. (all my subscribers are from iTunes or from my web site.)
                                              >
                                              > Maybe I should just stop using Feedburner now, and take the links off
                                              > my site.
                                              >
                                              > Thoughts?

                                              I believe the usual phrasing is "adopt a wait-and-see attitude." Sounds
                                              like a plan to me. Though I do like getting alla them stats and whatnot.

                                              For me, it'd probably be kinda silly, considering the blog on Blogspot and
                                              AdSense ads on both webpages.

                                              But for you, "wait-and-see" seems advisable. Perhaps everything will turn
                                              out just fine. Till it turns out Google is owned by Halliburton or
                                              Blackwater.

                                              Conspiracy theories, anyone?

                                              --
                                              Grizzly <grizzly at grizzly.podzone.org>
                                              Podcast:
                                              <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                                              Blog:
                                              <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                                              The Life and Times of a Minor Local Celebrity
                                            • David Smith
                                              It s in an FAQ link off of the sign-in page on Feedburner, but the language was written by somebody s lawyers, I d bet. I posted the link in a previous post,
                                              Message 22 of 23 , Jun 4, 2007
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                                                It's in an FAQ link off of the sign-in page on Feedburner, but the
                                                language was written by somebody's lawyers, I'd bet. I posted the link in
                                                a previous post, but lemme see if it's still in my clipboard:
                                                <http://www.feedburner.com/google> yep, there it is.

                                                BTW, I had a Moment of Paranoia when I was on Libsyn putting in a Blog
                                                post about Google and Feedburner, and noticed my firewall showed an active
                                                link to Google, with no such page open. Shouldn't be a big deal, Libsyn
                                                isn't owned by Google. Yet. As far as I know.

                                                It was 4 Jun 2007, when Steven R. Boyett commented:

                                                > Can you point me to the info Google has provided regarding their plans for
                                                > feed-based advertising? Cuz I think it's gonna change the whole game;
                                                > Google has cred that nobody else attempting this does, and I'm very eager
                                                > to find out what they've got cooking.
                                                >
                                                > _____
                                                >
                                                > From: David Smith [mailto:dbsmith@...]
                                                > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 11:50 PM
                                                > To: podcasters@yahoogroups.com
                                                > Subject: RE: [podcasters] Feedburner help
                                                >
                                                >
                                                >
                                                > It was 1 Jun 2007, when Steven R. Boyett commented:
                                                >
                                                > > <<Wait, Google bought Feedburner -and- Google bought Libsyn?>>
                                                > > Wizzard Media bought Libsyn.
                                                >
                                                > Yeah, I figured that out today. Google's provided info on their plans for
                                                > Feedburner makes my brain itch; I don't get exactly how things are going to
                                                > change there, with all their talk about feed-based advertising. When I saw
                                                > a link right on the sign-in page to opt out of the service entirely by June
                                                > 15, alarm bells started going off.
                                                >
                                                > And I don't even want to look into this Wizzard Media thing. I like
                                                > Feedburner, but I need Libsyn. But maybe it'll all be okay.
                                                >
                                                > <sigh>
                                                --
                                                Grizzly <grizzly at grizzly.podzone.org>
                                                Podcast:
                                                <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                                                Blog:
                                                <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                                                The Life and Times of a Minor Local Celebrity
                                              • Steven R. Boyett
                                                Thanks. I read the FAQ, and I don t see any language that accounts for people getting so riled up. Google doesn t want your content, they want your target
                                                Message 23 of 23 , Jun 4, 2007
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                                                  Thanks. I read the FAQ, and I don't see any language that accounts for
                                                  people getting so riled up. Google doesn't want your content, they want your
                                                  target audience.

                                                  Steve Boyett
                                                  www.djsteveboy.com <http://www.djsteveboy.com/>
                                                  Podcasts: "Groovelectric" / "Podrunner"


                                                  _____

                                                  From: David Smith [mailto:dbsmith@...]
                                                  Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 4:03 PM
                                                  To: podcasters@yahoogroups.com
                                                  Subject: RE: [podcasters] Feedburner help



                                                  It's in an FAQ link off of the sign-in page on Feedburner, but the
                                                  language was written by somebody's lawyers, I'd bet. I posted the link in
                                                  a previous post, but lemme see if it's still in my clipboard:
                                                  <http://www.feedburn <http://www.feedburner.com/google> er.com/google> yep,
                                                  there it is.

                                                  BTW, I had a Moment of Paranoia when I was on Libsyn putting in a Blog
                                                  post about Google and Feedburner, and noticed my firewall showed an active
                                                  link to Google, with no such page open. Shouldn't be a big deal, Libsyn
                                                  isn't owned by Google. Yet. As far as I know.

                                                  It was 4 Jun 2007, when Steven R. Boyett commented:

                                                  > Can you point me to the info Google has provided regarding their plans for
                                                  > feed-based advertising? Cuz I think it's gonna change the whole game;
                                                  > Google has cred that nobody else attempting this does, and I'm very eager
                                                  > to find out what they've got cooking.
                                                  >
                                                  > _____
                                                  >
                                                  > From: David Smith [mailto:dbsmith@atbbs.
                                                  <mailto:dbsmith%40atbbs.dyndns.org> dyndns.org]
                                                  > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 11:50 PM
                                                  > To: podcasters@yahoogro <mailto:podcasters%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
                                                  > Subject: RE: [podcasters] Feedburner help
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  > It was 1 Jun 2007, when Steven R. Boyett commented:
                                                  >
                                                  > > <<Wait, Google bought Feedburner -and- Google bought Libsyn?>>
                                                  > > Wizzard Media bought Libsyn.
                                                  >
                                                  > Yeah, I figured that out today. Google's provided info on their plans for
                                                  > Feedburner makes my brain itch; I don't get exactly how things are going
                                                  to
                                                  > change there, with all their talk about feed-based advertising. When I saw
                                                  > a link right on the sign-in page to opt out of the service entirely by
                                                  June
                                                  > 15, alarm bells started going off.
                                                  >
                                                  > And I don't even want to look into this Wizzard Media thing. I like
                                                  > Feedburner, but I need Libsyn. But maybe it'll all be okay.
                                                  >
                                                  > <sigh>
                                                  --
                                                  Grizzly <grizzly at grizzly.podzone.org>
                                                  Podcast:
                                                  <http://feeds. <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                                                  feedburner.com/grizzlysgrowls>
                                                  Blog:
                                                  <http://feeds. <http://feeds.feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                                                  feedburner.com/grizzlysblog>
                                                  The Life and Times of a Minor Local Celebrity






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