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  • Katronix Serf
    Hi all, One of my more recent interviews, you can quite easily hear the person I m interviewing breathing into the microphone. Unfortunately I didn t catch
    Message 1 of 14 , Feb 24, 2007
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      Hi all,

      One of my more recent interviews, you can quite easily hear the person
      I'm interviewing breathing into the microphone. Unfortunately I didn't
      catch this during the interview, I tried putting it through the
      levelator, and unfortunately it didn't really help enough.

      Can anyone recommend another tool available for the Mac that might help?
      I have Garageband and Audacity for the Mac already.

      Thanks,

      Chris

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    • Morning Brew Cast
      Chris, I¹ve heard SoundSoap http://www.bias-inc.com/products/soundsoap/ is good for these type of things. I have not used the program, but the demo looks
      Message 2 of 14 , Feb 25, 2007
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        Chris,

        I¹ve heard SoundSoap http://www.bias-inc.com/products/soundsoap/ is good for
        these type of things. I have not used the program, but the demo looks
        impressive.

        Good Luck,
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        From: Katronix Serf <kat@...>
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        Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 23:31:43 -0800
        To: Podcasters <podcasters@yahoogroups.com>
        Subject: [podcasters] breathing sounds





        Hi all,

        One of my more recent interviews, you can quite easily hear the person
        I'm interviewing breathing into the microphone. Unfortunately I didn't
        catch this during the interview, I tried putting it through the
        levelator, and unfortunately it didn't really help enough.

        Can anyone recommend another tool available for the Mac that might help?
        I have Garageband and Audacity for the Mac already.

        Thanks,

        Chris

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      • Matthew Wayne Selznick
        ... First try filtering out all sounds below a certain level -- this might help! Don t get too extreme with that, though -- too much silence between speaking
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          > From: Katronix Serf <kat@...>
          > One of my more recent interviews, you can quite easily hear the person
          > I'm interviewing breathing into the microphone. Unfortunately I didn't
          >
          > Can anyone recommend another tool available for the Mac that might help?
          > I have Garageband and Audacity for the Mac already.

          First try filtering out all sounds below a certain level -- this might
          help! Don't get too extreme with that, though -- too much silence
          between speaking sounds unnatural.

          It's a lot of work, but you could also manually edit the wav file and
          either lower the volume of the breathing, or cut it out entirely.

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        • Paul Puri
          ... Or you could just interview zombies. They are dead, so do not need air to breathe. Michael and Evo might be able to get you a hookup in that respect.
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            On 2/25/07, Matthew Wayne Selznick <mwselznick@...> wrote:
            >
            >
            > First try filtering out all sounds below a certain level -- this might
            > help! Don't get too extreme with that, though -- too much silence
            > between speaking sounds unnatural.
            >
            > It's a lot of work, but you could also manually edit the wav file and
            > either lower the volume of the breathing, or cut it out entirely.


            Or you could just interview zombies. They are dead, so do not need air to
            breathe. Michael and Evo might be able to get you a hookup in that respect.

            OR........

            Try a noise gate at a certain volume threshold so that it cuts out things
            that are not speech. But as Matt said, don't go crazy or it will sound
            wierd.


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          • Katronix Serf
            Is there a free noise gate? I suppose you would run one before the Levelator? Or is a noise gate something that goes on the mic during recording? I can t
            Message 5 of 14 , Feb 25, 2007
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              Is there a free noise gate? I suppose you would run one before the
              Levelator?

              Or is a noise gate something that goes on the mic during recording? I
              can't really expect the people I interview to modify their mic so that I
              can interview them.

              Chris

              Paul Puri wrote:
              >
              > On 2/25/07, Matthew Wayne Selznick <mwselznick@...
              > <mailto:mwselznick%40gmail.com>> wrote:
              > >
              > >
              > > First try filtering out all sounds below a certain level -- this might
              > > help! Don't get too extreme with that, though -- too much silence
              > > between speaking sounds unnatural.
              > >
              > > It's a lot of work, but you could also manually edit the wav file and
              > > either lower the volume of the breathing, or cut it out entirely.
              >
              > Or you could just interview zombies. They are dead, so do not need air to
              > breathe. Michael and Evo might be able to get you a hookup in that
              > respect.
              >
              > OR........
              >
              > Try a noise gate at a certain volume threshold so that it cuts out things
              > that are not speech. But as Matt said, don't go crazy or it will sound
              > wierd.
              >
              > Paul Puri
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            • Flyswatter
              I have the breathing problem myself (asthma) and I almost never catch it when I am recording! It really got apparent when I switched to a better microphone (I
              Message 6 of 14 , Feb 25, 2007
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                I have the breathing problem myself (asthma) and I almost never catch
                it when I am recording! It really got apparent when I switched to a
                better microphone (I also have a weak voice due to the same problem)
                and it gives my voice a certain ominous, Darth Vadaresque quality.

                The only thing I find that helps is to move away from the mic and then
                levelate everything back up (the new mic picks up enough to still
                sound pretty good but it also pics up fan noise, the airplane flight
                path overhead, my neighbor's stupid dog, my podcast partners wiggling
                around and pouring coffee, and my family doing their thing) and then
                try to disguise it all with bed music. Then I pray to the gods of
                feeble luck that my content is good enough that my audience won't
                notice.

                It all really drives me crazy.


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              • David Smith
                ... It might work up to a point to use a low-pass filter, since much of the breathing noises are going to be higher freqs. But it ll probably sound terrible.
                Message 7 of 14 , Feb 25, 2007
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                  It was 24 Feb 2007, when Katronix Serf commented:


                  > Hi all,
                  >
                  > One of my more recent interviews, you can quite easily hear the person I'm
                  > interviewing breathing into the microphone. Unfortunately I didn't catch
                  > this during the interview, I tried putting it through the levelator, and
                  > unfortunately it didn't really help enough.
                  >
                  > Can anyone recommend another tool available for the Mac that might help? I
                  > have Garageband and Audacity for the Mac already.

                  It might work up to a point to use a low-pass filter, since much of the
                  breathing noises are going to be higher freqs. But it'll probably sound
                  terrible. Also, if there's a stretch of "bare audio" where all you can
                  hear is him breathing, you -may- be able to use that sample in Audacity's
                  Noise Removal tool to remove that particular noise. Don't know that it'd
                  work well, but it might be worth a shot.

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                • Daniel Beck
                  Hi Chris, ... Although I haven t edited audio files for JapanesePod101, I was shown how they use Adobe Audition to replace breaths with ambient with a simple
                  Message 8 of 14 , Feb 25, 2007
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                    Hi Chris,

                    On Feb 25, 2007, at 4:31 PM, Katronix Serf wrote:
                    > One of my more recent interviews, you can quite easily hear the
                    > person I'm interviewing breathing into the microphone.
                    > Unfortunately I didn't
                    > catch this during the interview, I tried putting it through the
                    > levelator, and unfortunately it didn't really help enough.
                    Although I haven't edited audio files for JapanesePod101, I was shown
                    how they use Adobe Audition to replace breaths with ambient with a
                    simple key combination. This is really effective in Audition because
                    the waveform interface makes it easy to quickly identify where
                    someone has breathed in (and/or out). Unfortunately, Audition is not
                    yet available for the Mac.

                    However, I have used the same concept in editing on my own podcasts
                    (I use GarageBand 3) by copying what I know is ambient noise and
                    pasting over breathing noises. While not as elegant a solution as
                    Audition, it works pretty well.

                    That said, it does take time unlike solutions that involve the
                    Levelator or SoundSoap.

                    Daniel


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                  • Rich
                    On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 11:46 +0900, Daniel Beck wrote: I m just wondering why breath sounds are so offensive to everyone? I don t think too many listeners are
                    Message 9 of 14 , Feb 25, 2007
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                      On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 11:46 +0900, Daniel Beck wrote:

                      I'm just wondering why breath sounds are so offensive to everyone?

                      I don't think too many listeners are going to be shocked when they
                      learn that their favorite Podcast hosts and their guests actually inhale
                      and exhale air.

                      Every once in a while I find a breath to be a little loud, and I
                      carefully highlight the breath in my editor and lower it 6 or 8 dB.

                      Rich...


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                      > Hi Chris,
                      >
                      > On Feb 25, 2007, at 4:31 PM, Katronix Serf wrote:
                      > > One of my more recent interviews, you can quite easily hear the
                      > > person I'm interviewing breathing into the microphone.
                      > > Unfortunately I didn't
                      > > catch this during the interview, I tried putting it through the
                      > > levelator, and unfortunately it didn't really help enough.
                      > Although I haven't edited audio files for JapanesePod101, I was shown
                      > how they use Adobe Audition to replace breaths with ambient with a
                      > simple key combination. This is really effective in Audition because
                      > the waveform interface makes it easy to quickly identify where
                      > someone has breathed in (and/or out). Unfortunately, Audition is not
                      > yet available for the Mac.
                      >
                      > However, I have used the same concept in editing on my own podcasts
                      > (I use GarageBand 3) by copying what I know is ambient noise and
                      > pasting over breathing noises. While not as elegant a solution as
                      > Audition, it works pretty well.
                      >
                      > That said, it does take time unlike solutions that involve the
                      > Levelator or SoundSoap.
                      >
                      > Daniel
                      >
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                    • Michael W. Dean
                      ... ===== Actually, I ve found Levelator to RAISE the volume of breathing....as it tends to make quieter things louder while it s bringing loud things quieter.
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                        --- In podcasters@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Beck <DanielBeck@...> wrote:

                        > ....That said, it does take time unlike solutions that involve the
                        > Levelator or SoundSoap.
                        =====
                        Actually, I've found Levelator to RAISE the volume of breathing....as
                        it tends to make quieter things louder while it's bringing loud things
                        quieter.

                        I just snip out obnoxious breaths, and yeah, sometimes cut in room
                        tone. This sometimes involves doing micro fades (in and out) where I
                        do so.

                        This could be a hassle if there is breathing throughout, but if
                        there's just some here and there, it can go pretty quick after practise.


                        MWD
                      • Daniel Beck
                        Hi Rich, ... I don t know that it is offensive (and didn t say so). It s just a style choice. But, should someone want to do so, it s nice to know there is a
                        Message 11 of 14 , Feb 25, 2007
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                          Hi Rich,

                          On Feb 26, 2007, at 12:29 PM, Rich wrote:
                          > On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 11:46 +0900, Daniel Beck wrote:
                          >
                          > I'm just wondering why breath sounds are so offensive to everyone?
                          >
                          > I don't think too many listeners are going to be shocked when they
                          > learn that their favorite Podcast hosts and their guests actually
                          > inhale
                          > and exhale air.
                          I don't know that it is offensive (and didn't say so). It's just a
                          style choice. But, should someone want to do so, it's nice to know
                          there is a way to do it.

                          Daniel

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                        • Mark
                          ... I have started using Levelator at the behest of wizened advice here on the boards, and I ve had the same problem. Daniel, thank you for an excellent
                          Message 12 of 14 , Feb 26, 2007
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                            > However, I have used the same concept in editing on my own podcasts
                            > (I use GarageBand 3) by copying what I know is ambient noise and
                            > pasting over breathing noises. While not as elegant a solution as
                            > Audition, it works pretty well.
                            >
                            > That said, it does take time unlike solutions that involve the
                            > Levelator or SoundSoap.
                            >
                            > Daniel

                            I have started using Levelator at the behest of wizened advice here on the boards, and I've
                            had the same problem. Daniel, thank you for an excellent suggestion, my mind almost
                            bled out my ear thinking about it.. You can only do that in spaces in a track where there is
                            *just* breathing, and you're talking about highlighting an area and just pasting over it,
                            correct?

                            So far there is no 'combine tracks and prioritize this frequency over another in the mixed
                            tracks' feature I've seen in GB3...or is that what you are talkinga about?

                            Thanks!

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                          • Michael W. Dean
                            ... on the boards, ======= Mark, I rarely have the desire to correct people s use of English on web boards, but is wizened really the word you meant?
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                              --- In podcasters@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <stoicism99@...> wrote:

                              > I have started using Levelator at the behest of wizened advice here
                              on the boards,
                              =======

                              Mark, I rarely have the desire to correct people's use of English on
                              web boards, but is "wizened" really the word you meant? "Wizened"
                              means "withered, shrivled, old, dried up.

                              Hmmmm...maybe it WAS the word you meant. If so, that gives new meaning
                              to the world "oldtimer" on web boards.

                              From http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/wizened :
                              "Wizened: to become dry, shrunken, and wrinkled often as a result of
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                            • George L Smyth
                              I use a noise gate plug-in for Audacity called GGate, which has increased the quality significantly, since I no longer run noise reduction on it. Cheers -
                              Message 14 of 14 , Feb 27, 2007
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                                I use a noise gate plug-in for Audacity called GGate, which has increased the
                                quality significantly, since I no longer run noise reduction on it.

                                Cheers -

                                george


                                --- Katronix Serf <kat@...> wrote:

                                > Is there a free noise gate? I suppose you would run one before the
                                > Levelator?
                                >
                                > Or is a noise gate something that goes on the mic during recording? I
                                > can't really expect the people I interview to modify their mic so that I
                                > can interview them.
                                >
                                > Chris
                                >
                                > Paul Puri wrote:
                                > >
                                > > On 2/25/07, Matthew Wayne Selznick <mwselznick@...
                                > > <mailto:mwselznick%40gmail.com>> wrote:
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > First try filtering out all sounds below a certain level -- this might
                                > > > help! Don't get too extreme with that, though -- too much silence
                                > > > between speaking sounds unnatural.
                                > > >
                                > > > It's a lot of work, but you could also manually edit the wav file and
                                > > > either lower the volume of the breathing, or cut it out entirely.
                                > >
                                > > Or you could just interview zombies. They are dead, so do not need air to
                                > > breathe. Michael and Evo might be able to get you a hookup in that
                                > > respect.
                                > >
                                > > OR........
                                > >
                                > > Try a noise gate at a certain volume threshold so that it cuts out things
                                > > that are not speech. But as Matt said, don't go crazy or it will sound
                                > > wierd.
                                > >
                                > > Paul Puri
                                > > A Nice Place to Podcast! Podmotel BETA
                                > > http://podmotel.com <http://podmotel.com>
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                                > > http://podsafegear.com <http://podsafegear.com>
                                > >
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