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  • dave_r_riley
    I use Odeo to house my audio for podcasting. I create my feeds-- --atom-- through Blogger and process them through Feedburner.But if I was starting out again
    Message 1 of 5 , Sep 30 2:15 AM
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      I use Odeo to house my audio for podcasting. I create my feeds--
      --atom-- through Blogger and process them through Feedburner.But if I
      was starting out again I'd go down the Odeo path to create my feeds
      and I'd only house my show notes on Blogger.

      Thats' free, folks, from go to woe.

      I love Odeo and Odeo have been doing more on their site to foster the
      podcasting biziness.

      *This weekend their flash players have been tweaked --at least the
      larger ones -- to carry the name of your episode/audio. This is a
      great way to transport your audio to other sites for sharing -- say
      on your blog. It's the podcasters' version of YouTube.

      * I used to advocate that people create audio for podcasting through
      their SEND AN ODEO attribute which was linked to an email address --
      such as mine or "yours". Great way to generate feedback I thought.But
      the protocols were very unstable and you could lose your recording
      before it was 'sent'. After that happens once ( as once is enough)no
      one is going to try that interface again.So give it a wide birth.

      Better to encourage listeners to go to the Odeo studio:

      http://www.odeo.com/create/studio

      create an account (easy sign up) and notify you later of their audio's
      existence and url. The studio is a much better interface with a solid
      platform that will record and save the recorded audio.

      dave riley
    • Chris Moody
      ... If you have already started and have everything set up, can you use Odeo as you do Podcast Pickle, iTunes, etc? --
      Message 2 of 5 , Sep 30 5:46 PM
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        dave_r_riley wrote:
        >
        > I use Odeo to house my audio for podcasting. I create my feeds--
        > --atom-- through Blogger and process them through Feedburner.But if I
        > was starting out again I'd go down the Odeo path to create my feeds
        > and I'd only house my show notes on Blogger.
        >
        > Thats' free, folks, from go to woe.
        >
        > I love Odeo and Odeo have been doing more on their site to foster the
        > podcasting biziness.
        >
        > *This weekend their flash players have been tweaked --at least the
        > larger ones -- to carry the name of your episode/audio. This is a
        > great way to transport your audio to other sites for sharing -- say
        > on your blog. It's the podcasters' version of YouTube.
        >
        > * I used to advocate that people create audio for podcasting through
        > their SEND AN ODEO attribute which was linked to an email address --
        > such as mine or "yours". Great way to generate feedback I thought.But
        > the protocols were very unstable and you could lose your recording
        > before it was 'sent'. After that happens once ( as once is enough)no
        > one is going to try that interface again.So give it a wide birth.
        >
        > Better to encourage listeners to go to the Odeo studio:
        >
        > http://www.odeo.com/create/studio <http://www.odeo.com/create/studio>
        >
        > create an account (easy sign up) and notify you later of their audio's
        > existence and url. The studio is a much better interface with a solid
        > platform that will record and save the recorded audio.
        >
        > dave riley
        >
        > .
        >

        If you have already started and have everything set up, can you use Odeo
        as you do Podcast Pickle, iTunes, etc?

        --
        <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/katsplace"><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/katsplace.gif" style="border:0" alt="Kat's Place podcast"/></a>



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      • Will Brown
        ... Yes. In the beginning Odeo just pulled everyone s feeds in like most new directories. Then the owner of the podcast would just have to Claim their feed
        Message 3 of 5 , Oct 1, 2006
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          On 9/30/06, Chris Moody <katserf@...> wrote:
          > If you have already started and have everything set up, can you use Odeo
          > as you do Podcast Pickle, iTunes, etc?

          Yes.
          In the beginning Odeo just pulled everyone's feeds in like most new
          directories. Then the owner of the podcast would just have to "Claim"
          their feed and customize their tags. I'm not sure if they go out and
          do that anymore.

          If you are not listed then just sign up and add your feed. Also, there
          is a "Add a Feed" link in the bottom-right corner of every page.

          Will


          --
          http://www.CloudyDayArt.com
          Poetry - People - Podcast
          --------------------------------------------
          Member, Association of Poetry Podcasting
          http://www.PoetryPodcasting.org
        • Chris Moody
          ... Thanks --
          Message 4 of 5 , Oct 1, 2006
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            Will Brown wrote:
            >
            > On 9/30/06, Chris Moody <katserf@...
            > <mailto:katserf%40chrismoody.net>> wrote:
            > > If you have already started and have everything set up, can you use Odeo
            > > as you do Podcast Pickle, iTunes, etc?
            >
            > Yes.
            > In the beginning Odeo just pulled everyone's feeds in like most new
            > directories. Then the owner of the podcast would just have to "Claim"
            > their feed and customize their tags. I'm not sure if they go out and
            > do that anymore.
            >
            > If you are not listed then just sign up and add your feed. Also, there
            > is a "Add a Feed" link in the bottom-right corner of every page.
            >
            > Will
            >
            > --
            > http://www.CloudyDayArt.com <http://www.CloudyDayArt.com>
            > Poetry - People - Podcast
            > --------------------------------------------
            > Member, Association of Poetry Podcasting
            > http://www.PoetryPodcasting.org <http://www.PoetryPodcasting.org>
            >
            > .
            > _,_._,___

            Thanks

            --
            <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/katsplace"><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/katsplace.gif" style="border:0" alt="Kat's Place podcast"/></a>
          • dave_r_riley
            Unfortunately the ODEO claim your feed process can be problematical but really you don t have to claim it unless you want to dress up your podcast page and
            Message 5 of 5 , Oct 2, 2006
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              Unfortunately the ODEO "claim your feed" process can be problematical
              but really you don't have to claim it unless you want to dress up
              your podcast page and add show notes and tags.

              The other related option is this(and I hope I don't confuse too many
              people as ODEO is a very hard site to navigate around):

              I upload my individual audio files to ODEO and generally I allocate
              them to the one all-in feed which is separate from my other channels
              whose feeds are generated on Blogger and later processed through
              Feedburner.

              These other channels are already listed on the ODEO directory and if I
              allocate the audio to each of them I double up the listing so that TWO
              episodes are shown on the ODEO podcast directory for that channel.
              (Although ODEO feed aggregation that grabs your podcast off site is
              very slow in updating your entry on the ODEO directory.)

              The associated advantage for doing it this way is that I can create
              individual flash players for each episode which I embed as part of the
              Show Notes on my podcast pages(on Blogger) separate from ODEO.

              By allocating this audio to the one feed/page on ODEO I also create a
              playlist on the snazzy Odeo aggregator player which I have embedded
              on each of my podcast sites as well ,so I get cross promotion and
              access. So if you go to one of my podcast sites -- you get

              (1) the Mp3 download url for each episode
              (2) each episode immediately accessible through its own flash player
              (I upload my show notes with both attributes)
              (3) and, in the margin, a flash player that aggregates the latest
              episodes across the network of channels.This holds, in my customized
              version of it, eight of the most recent episodes in an easy click
              through interface.

              On top of that, on my blog, I may now and then create throw away audio
              commentaries --or "communiques"(to grab BicycleMark's great term for
              them) -- which I may create on impulse and don't place in any podcast
              or feed at all. It's sort of simple audio blogging. These I offer as
              an embedded flash player.

              What I'm now thinking of doing is finding a way to actively promote
              ODEOs flash players -- "Get the Flash player for your site" -- to
              people who may like to embed the audio/episode on their own blog or
              website. This is exactly how YouTube shares videos. Really it's a
              simple copy and paste exercise but you may need some knowledge of HTML.

              The irony is that people have actively embraced YouTube sharing this
              way but the prospect of sharing podcast episodes like this seems to
              have been overlooked.

              Then -- as part of my 'strategy' -- I'm trying to encourage my
              listeners to record their own audio on ODEO so that I can later grab,
              edit and podcast it. ODEO offers the "Send Me An ODEO" option wherein
              any one can record a message for you and it's integrated into your
              ODEO's account's inbox -- sort of like an email. But this feature,
              I've found, is very unstable,so that I now refer people to the ODEO
              STUDIO instead.

              http://studio.odeo.com/create

              You/they can record for an hour on it.

              While sign up is involved it is much more dependable than the "Send Me
              An ODEO" interface is.

              So generally there are a lot of bells and whistles on ODEO that can be
              harnessed to supplement your current protocols and outreach -- EVEN IF
              YOUR PODCAST IS OFFSITE. Last weekend, ODEO added episode titles to
              their larger single episode/Mp3 file flash players which makes them
              that little bit more identifiable.

              I've also noted here before about ways to use RawSugar(better than
              del.icio.us in this regard) to tag and create supplementary feeds to
              package old or specific category content. You can do the same on ODEO
              too although it's a little bit more laborious.

              Assuming your feed and your Mp3 files are off site(but really even if
              they were housed on ODEO you can still do this) and you wanted to
              package together some chosen episodes under a new label: You create an
              account at ODEO then create a new podcast (and thats' easy to set up
              -- it's a one click thing) -- and YOU LINK to that feed those episodes
              of your podcast you want to format or highlight under the new banner.
              For instance you could separate out the 2005 podcasts from the 2006 ones.

              You can take that feed anywhere you want . You can offer it as another
              subscription option on your site. You can process it separately
              through Feedburner (or another aggregator) so that you get a HTML menu
              of targeted past episodes for your sidebar. You can enter the new feed
              RSS into one of the Blogger in beta widgets and straight away have a
              supplementary list of marked off shows (eg: best of)if your podcast is
              on Blogger (in beta)....

              Easy to do -- but maybe tagging with RawSugar is easier....

              dave riley



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