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  • doowta
    Hi all: My podcast artwork is showing up in the iTunes Music Store. However, when my podcast is played in iTunes, the artwork is not being displayed. I have
    Message 1 of 9 , Jun 7, 2006
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      Hi all:

      My podcast artwork is showing up in the iTunes Music Store. However,
      when my podcast is played in iTunes, the artwork is not being
      displayed. I have heard that Chapter Tool will solve this problem,
      but I am running XP on a PC. Is there a PC based solution?

      -Thanks,

      Jon
    • Brian Noe
      have you included the image in the id3 tag for the mp3 file? noebie http://noebie.com ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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        have you included the image in the id3 tag for the mp3 file?

        noebie
        http://noebie.com

        On 6/7/06, doowta <jatwood@...> wrote:
        >
        > Hi all:
        >
        > My podcast artwork is showing up in the iTunes Music Store. However,
        > when my podcast is played in iTunes, the artwork is not being
        > displayed. I have heard that Chapter Tool will solve this problem,
        > but I am running XP on a PC. Is there a PC based solution?
        >
        > -Thanks,
        >
        > Jon
        >
        >
        >


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      • Andy Bilodeau
        ... Hi John, The easiest way I know of is using iTunes for Windows. It s a free download. You can edit all the ID3 tags. http://www.apple.com/itunes/download _
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          On 6/7/06, doowta <jatwood@...> wrote:
          >
          > Hi all:
          >
          > My podcast artwork is showing up in the iTunes Music Store. However,
          > when my podcast is played in iTunes, the artwork is not being
          > displayed. I have heard that Chapter Tool will solve this problem,
          > but I am running XP on a PC. Is there a PC based solution?
          >
          > -Thanks,
          >
          > Jon
          >

          Hi John,

          The easiest way I know of is using iTunes for Windows. It's a free download.
          You can edit all the ID3 tags.

          http://www.apple.com/itunes/download

          _
          >



          --
          Andy Bilodeau
          PodCaster

          The AndyCast PodCast
          You'll laugh 'til you stop!
          http://www.andycast.net
          Skype : andybilodeau


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        • doowta
          Brian: That must be the source of the problem. So, what I need to do is add the artwork to the id3 tag when I convert the file to an MP3 file within Audacity?
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            Brian:

            That must be the source of the problem. So, what I need to do is
            add the artwork to the id3 tag when I convert the file to an MP3
            file within Audacity?

            -Jon

            --- In podcasters@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Noe" <noebie@...> wrote:
            >
            > have you included the image in the id3 tag for the mp3 file?
            >
            > noebie
            > http://noebie.com
            >
            > On 6/7/06, doowta <jatwood@...> wrote:
            > >
            > > Hi all:
            > >
            > > My podcast artwork is showing up in the iTunes Music Store.
            However,
            > > when my podcast is played in iTunes, the artwork is not being
            > > displayed. I have heard that Chapter Tool will solve this
            problem,
            > > but I am running XP on a PC. Is there a PC based solution?
            > >
            > > -Thanks,
            > >
            > > Jon
            > >
            > >
            > >
            >
            >
            > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            >
          • Brian Noe
            i m not sure audacity has a field for artwork in its id3 editor as posted above, you can do it in itunes also, if you google for id3 editor windows you might
            Message 5 of 9 , Jun 7, 2006
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              i'm not sure audacity has a field for artwork in its id3 editor

              as posted above, you can do it in itunes

              also, if you google for id3 editor windows you might find a utility to do it
              after export from audacity

              on the mac, i use something called "id3x" -- not sure they make a windows
              version

              best,

              brian



              On 6/7/06, doowta <jatwood@...> wrote:
              >
              > Brian:
              >
              > That must be the source of the problem. So, what I need to do is
              > add the artwork to the id3 tag when I convert the file to an MP3
              > file within Audacity?
              >
              > -Jon
              >
              >
              > --- In podcasters@yahoogroups.com <podcasters%40yahoogroups.com>, "Brian
              > Noe" <noebie@...> wrote:
              > >
              > > have you included the image in the id3 tag for the mp3 file?
              > >
              > > noebie
              > > http://noebie.com
              > >
              > > On 6/7/06, doowta <jatwood@...> wrote:
              > > >
              > > > Hi all:
              > > >
              > > > My podcast artwork is showing up in the iTunes Music Store.
              > However,
              > > > when my podcast is played in iTunes, the artwork is not being
              > > > displayed. I have heard that Chapter Tool will solve this
              > problem,
              > > > but I am running XP on a PC. Is there a PC based solution?
              > > >
              > > > -Thanks,
              > > >
              > > > Jon
              > > >
              > > >
              > > >
              > >
              > >
              > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              > >
              >
              >
              >


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            • doowta
              Many thanks Brian. -Jon ... utility to do it ... windows ... 40yahoogroups.com , Brian
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                Many thanks Brian.

                -Jon

                --- In podcasters@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Noe" <noebie@...> wrote:
                >
                > i'm not sure audacity has a field for artwork in its id3 editor
                >
                > as posted above, you can do it in itunes
                >
                > also, if you google for id3 editor windows you might find a
                utility to do it
                > after export from audacity
                >
                > on the mac, i use something called "id3x" -- not sure they make a
                windows
                > version
                >
                > best,
                >
                > brian
                >
                >
                >
                > On 6/7/06, doowta <jatwood@...> wrote:
                > >
                > > Brian:
                > >
                > > That must be the source of the problem. So, what I need to do is
                > > add the artwork to the id3 tag when I convert the file to an MP3
                > > file within Audacity?
                > >
                > > -Jon
                > >
                > >
                > > --- In podcasters@yahoogroups.com <podcasters%
                40yahoogroups.com>, "Brian
                > > Noe" <noebie@> wrote:
                > > >
                > > > have you included the image in the id3 tag for the mp3 file?
                > > >
                > > > noebie
                > > > http://noebie.com
                > > >
                > > > On 6/7/06, doowta <jatwood@> wrote:
                > > > >
                > > > > Hi all:
                > > > >
                > > > > My podcast artwork is showing up in the iTunes Music Store.
                > > However,
                > > > > when my podcast is played in iTunes, the artwork is not being
                > > > > displayed. I have heard that Chapter Tool will solve this
                > > problem,
                > > > > but I am running XP on a PC. Is there a PC based solution?
                > > > >
                > > > > -Thanks,
                > > > >
                > > > > Jon
                > > > >
                > > > >
                > > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                > > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                >
                >
                > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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              • Will Brown
                On 6/7/06, doowta wrote: So, what I need to do is add the artwork to the id3 tag when I convert the file to an MP3 file within
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                  On 6/7/06, doowta <jatwood@...> wrote:
                  So, what I need to do is add the artwork to the id3 tag when I convert the
                  file to an MP3
                  file within Audacity?

                  The easiest way, if you don't use iTunes, is to open the file using Windows
                  Media Player, right-click on the filename and select "Advanced Tag Editor",
                  click on the picture tab and add your picture. Save.

                  I do all my ID3 tag editing in Media Player.

                  Will

                  --
                  http://www.CloudyDayArt.com
                  Poetry - People - Podcast


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                • dave_r_riley
                  - ... Yeah Audacity has a crude and cumbersome ID tag editor which won t handle art work and has an annoying and limited genre list option. I was wondering
                  Message 8 of 9 , Jun 7, 2006
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                    -
                    >
                    > --- In podcasters@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Noe" <noebie@> wrote:
                    > >
                    > > i'm not sure audacity has a field for artwork in its id3 editor
                    > > /FireAnt
                    > > as posted above, you can do it in itunes

                    Yeah Audacity has a crude and cumbersome ID tag editor which won't
                    handle art work and has an annoying and limited genre list option. I
                    was wondering about this question too -- ie: about adding the artwork
                    --and iTunes will do the job --unfortunately!-- as the Big Gorilla has
                    to be fired up just for a quick ID edit. ..and I gather you have to
                    import the file into the iTunes library to edit the tags, then upload
                    from the iTunes default library folder.

                    This is right, eh?

                    You learn somthing new everyday...

                    But hey! It works. Why go chasing another editor with bells and
                    whistles on it you don't need when you have iTunes -- IF only for
                    Quick Time (if not using Quick Time Alternative) or IF only for
                    checking your listing in the Big Music Store.

                    Just on the FireAnt thing about changing the file names...when you use
                    the "Media Items" option or review your podcasts in 'Library'
                    there's no change in what you get to read. In fact the information
                    delivered is much more comprehensive than other podcatchers, I've
                    used, as it relies on the Show Notes.

                    "Library" also arranges your Mp3 downloads into either audio or video;
                    and then by day they were downloaded .And I find the "Save AS" option
                    as a susbtitute for synching works fine when I load up my iRiver.

                    Of course if you try to do it another way -- by using another program
                    to synch, after downloading your files to FireAnt, then you are in
                    trouble as the new file names, where they occur, will be confusing to
                    you.

                    dave riley
                  • Joshua Kinberg
                    Hey there, Saw this thread and had to comment because displaying thumbnail images is unfrotunately very hard for video podcasts... harder than it seems to be
                    Message 9 of 9 , Jun 7, 2006
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                      Hey there,

                      Saw this thread and had to comment because displaying thumbnail images
                      is unfrotunately very hard for video podcasts... harder than it seems
                      to be for audio where you can embed an image in the file header with
                      ID3 tags.

                      So, here's how we handle video thumbnails with FireAnt (which
                      admittedly is not yet perfected). We have 3 products, FireAnt on
                      Windows and Mac, and FireAnt.tv, our website. Each of these products
                      is different at the moment and I'm only going to address FireAnt on
                      Windows and FireAnt.tv (FireAnt Mac does not yet support thumbnail
                      images).

                      Let's start with the website... we have a couple methods for
                      displaying thumbnail images there. First, we parse the <description>
                      element for each RSS <item> and look for the following HTML markup
                      pattern -- if there is a link element where the href attribute matches
                      the enclosure URL, then we check to see if there is an img element
                      within that link tag. In other words, this:

                      <a href="http://link/to/enclosure.mov"><img
                      src="http://link/to/thumbnail.jpg" /></a>

                      Thus, its important for video podcasters to include relevant thumbnail
                      images in their blog posts. Here's an example:

                      Here's Josh Leo's Videoblog: <http://joshleo.com/vlog/index.php>
                      And here's his listing in FireAnt: <http://fireant.tv/directory/channel/15275?>

                      However, it is not very common to see a blogger make it so simple for
                      us. There are a number of different ways that people use HTML markup
                      -- it just takes more testing to discover how to route around some of
                      the issues, and sometimes its simply that people don't include images
                      in their posts -- just a text link that points to the video.

                      We have a second way of getting images on FireAnt.tv if this first
                      method fails. Another website, MeFeedia.com, aggegrates video and
                      extracts thumbnail images with a server side process. They make these
                      thumbnail images available to us through an API. If we don't get an
                      image the first way, then we check to see if MeFeedia.com has it.

                      Unfortunately this method is not often reliable and when it is
                      successful, it returns small images that we have to scale up which
                      then look distorted. The other problem is that since the video maker
                      didn't choose the image, there is no way for MeFeedia to know which
                      video frame is a good representation of the video.

                      We're working on still a third way of getting images on FireAnt.tv,
                      but its still experimental. We're hoping it will improve our success
                      rate in this area, which is admittedly not what we'd like it to be at
                      the moment.

                      So, after that long-winded description, here's what we do on the
                      client side with FireAnt on Windows...

                      We only display images after the file has been downloaded, and only if
                      you have "show descriptions" enabled (you can disable this from the
                      right-click menu). Once a video is downloaded, FireAnt will extract a
                      thumbnail image from the file. iTunes is similar in this regard, but
                      we deal with many different video formats in addition to Quicktime, so
                      this can actually be quite challenging. At the moment, we're pretty
                      good at getting the images for Windows Media Videos, not as good at
                      getting them for Quicktime videos.

                      For Quicktime videos, we are 100% successful if the video has a
                      "poster image" set. You can set the poster image using Quicktime Pro
                      or other editor. This is great because then we know the video maker
                      has selected an appropriate image. If there is no poster image set, we
                      often get a blank frame or have to guess which frame represents the
                      video. This is something that we need to work on.

                      We have not yet addressed images in audio files... looks like we
                      should as that is probably low hanging fruit...

                      Hope some of this is helpful...

                      -Josh

                      http://FireAnt.tv


                      On 6/7/06, dave_r_riley <dhell2@...> wrote:
                      > -
                      > >
                      > > --- In podcasters@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Noe" <noebie@> wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > > i'm not sure audacity has a field for artwork in its id3 editor
                      > > > /FireAnt
                      > > > as posted above, you can do it in itunes
                      >
                      > Yeah Audacity has a crude and cumbersome ID tag editor which won't
                      > handle art work and has an annoying and limited genre list option. I
                      > was wondering about this question too -- ie: about adding the artwork
                      > --and iTunes will do the job --unfortunately!-- as the Big Gorilla has
                      > to be fired up just for a quick ID edit. ..and I gather you have to
                      > import the file into the iTunes library to edit the tags, then upload
                      > from the iTunes default library folder.
                      >
                      > This is right, eh?
                      >
                      > You learn somthing new everyday...
                      >
                      > But hey! It works. Why go chasing another editor with bells and
                      > whistles on it you don't need when you have iTunes -- IF only for
                      > Quick Time (if not using Quick Time Alternative) or IF only for
                      > checking your listing in the Big Music Store.
                      >
                      > Just on the FireAnt thing about changing the file names...when you use
                      > the "Media Items" option or review your podcasts in 'Library'
                      > there's no change in what you get to read. In fact the information
                      > delivered is much more comprehensive than other podcatchers, I've
                      > used, as it relies on the Show Notes.
                      >
                      > "Library" also arranges your Mp3 downloads into either audio or video;
                      > and then by day they were downloaded .And I find the "Save AS" option
                      > as a susbtitute for synching works fine when I load up my iRiver.
                      >
                      > Of course if you try to do it another way -- by using another program
                      > to synch, after downloading your files to FireAnt, then you are in
                      > trouble as the new file names, where they occur, will be confusing to
                      > you.
                      >
                      > dave riley
                      >
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