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Re: On the Banks of the Ilissus.

Mark, First, he descended. As did we all. We fell from a higher place. The early stages of the dialogue was about mercantile (economic mentality) ways of life
t_mether
Mar 30, 2016
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2723

Re: On the Banks of the Ilissus.

Bob, All the dialogues have settings. The settings are integral, according to most commentators, to a dialogue's theme. most authorities agree several dialogs
t_mether
Mar 30, 2016
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2722

Re: On the Banks of the Ilissus.

Friends, My post has stimulated some interesting speculations. If I may, I will make a couple of observations. Is it correct to say the dialog is about Eros?
Bob Taylor
Mar 24, 2016
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2721

Re: On the Banks of the Ilissus.

The parallel with the Republic is meaningful but inverted. There Socrates is moving out of the underworld towards the City of light, the realm of Ideas. In
Mark Faller
Mar 24, 2016
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2720

Re: On the Banks of the Ilissus.

Or consider this. Again: irony is the concept. The Republic (about the constitution of the just soul and society) is dramatically framed by Plato as Socrates
t_mether
Mar 24, 2016
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2719

Re: On the Banks of the Ilissus.

I think Socrates means what he says. He is not learning anything from Phaedrus anyway because it is not he who speaks but he is just reading Lysias speach. His
Carmen Zavala
Mar 24, 2016
#2719
 
2718

Re: On the Banks of the Ilissus.

Thomas,Ironic in contrast to what? Ironic in contrast to your preconceptions? On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 11:26 PM, "Thomas Mether thomas.r.mether@...
NY Amateur
Mar 24, 2016
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2717

Re: On the Banks of the Ilissus.

Or consider this. Again: irony is the concept. The Republic (about the constitution of the just soul and society) is dramatically framed by Plato as Socrates
Thomas Mether
Mar 23, 2016
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2716

Re: On the Banks of the Ilissus.

 Lee, Perhaps a pragmatic rather than a dictionary approach might work here. Plato intends to raise the level of discussion in the speeches on love by
NY Amateur
Mar 22, 2016
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2715

Re: On the Banks of the Ilissus.

May I suggest irony: appearances are not what they seem. Statements, actions, situations, persons, and reality are not what they seem. In light of the newer
t_mether
Mar 22, 2016
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2714

Re: On the Banks of the Ilissus.

I'm sure there's a vast secondary literature on this, but my own tentative view has always been that eros should not be discussed in public but only in private
James Costopoulos
Mar 21, 2016
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2713

Re: On the Banks of the Ilissus.

well it's about eros, and eros is about beauty, and nature seems to evoke that. However, OTOH, Aryeh Kosman claims that the Greeks only apply the word Kalon to
Lee D Perlman
Mar 20, 2016
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2712

On the Banks of the Ilissus.

Regards to All, 227A Phaedrus is going for a walk on the road outside the city, because it is less tiring than in the city, when Socrates meets him. Socrates
Robert Eldon Taylor
Mar 20, 2016
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2711

Re: Happy philosopher?

How can one be truly happy when he has no morality? One is happy when he can see the true reality. We have pleasure in reading Schopenhauer, so is he in
chungchihsu2000
Jul 4, 2015
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2710

Happy philosopher?

A friend and I were discussing an article about Schopenhauer. I remarked that, although Boethius found consolation in philosophy, I could not think of a
Robert Eldon Taylor
Jul 4, 2015
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