17659Re: [plagpk] Re: Some professional/personal reservation and humble suggestions about PLA upcoming elections
- Jun 3, 2012waisay tussi teachers de aina khalf kion oo. shaid tuhaday teachers changay nai sun.ik hoor gal. tussi mehrbani ker ke highly respected madam de karnamay te share karo saday naal, te ke qoom noon pata chalay apnay hero kairay nainjaan de amaan pawan ke arz karan, tussi janab apay sawal te apay jawab, waisay koi hoor nai madam bushra kool karnamay share kernwalaaasi te sunya way tuhadi apni coleagues naal v nai koi changay relations. kisi naal hay v nainlarao na lookan nu janabteachers qabil izat nain madam bushra v nain te khalid sb v. tussi kuch hoor soochomuafi chahnay wan janab ghustakhi di
From: qaisrar <qaisrar@...>
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 5:03 PM
Subject: [plagpk] Re: Some professional/personal reservation and humble suggestions about PLA upcoming elections
Sahi farmaiya Dr. Amjad Sahib,
Jab hamara baat karnay ka yeh standered hay ur jealousyka yeh Aalam hay tu ALLAH PAK hamaray din kayse badlay ga ?????????????? yeh douno cheap batain bushra main nahin hain tu Mash ALLAH ....Allah nay us ko nawaza bhi buhat hay..... jo guilty hota hay wo bay naam hota hay...... SYED BHI UR HAJI BHI ..... MERAY DIL MAIN TU IN KE BARI EZAT HAY.... PLEASE BADNAAM NA KARAIN....... GUSA NAHIN TARAS KARNA CHAHYE .... AAP NAY YEH SUB SOOCHANAY MAIN AAPNA WAQAT BARBAAD KIYA ... wo he aap koi sotwere bana sekh laytay ........ :(......GUNAH LLAG HO GA..... HADITH main hay k jo pak ur ba kirdar urat par tuhmat lagata hay wo ghunah e kabera ka murtakib hota hay...... marnay say pehlay Allah say maafi mang lain ...nahin tu qiyamat kay din BUSHRA kay poun choonay parain gay......
Ezat jab Allah day tu koi nahin lay sakta.......
--- In email@example.com, dr amjad <amjad_dr2@...> wrote:
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> Makkay Madinay Ghoom Aaya, Tay Tu Naa Rakh Liya HajiÂ
> Bhullay Shah Hasil Ke kitaÂ ............................................
> From: qaisrar <qaisrar@...>
> To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 11:36 AM
> Subject: [plagpk] Re: Some professional/personal reservation and humble suggestions about PLA upcoming elections
> Haji sahib, rab nu jan dayni ae sub nay , Bushra nay us kay liye personaly ju bhi kiya buhat saray loogoun ko pata hay, magar hum sub AAP kay samyiet kiya kiya... kitni dafa gye ...kiya madad kar kay aye???? ALLAH KO HAR KOI APNAY FAIL KA JAWABDAR HAY ...AAP KO NAHIN... NAYIKI AAP SAY EZAT LAY KAY NAHIN KARNI THEE.... KHUN BATAYE BUSHARA AAP KO..... ???????? AAP KON.....?????? :)
> PATA NAHIN TUSIN HO KON..... MODERATOR NAY AAP KO SHAMIL KAYSE KIYA...???? AAGAR AAP HAMARAY LIBRARIAN HAIN.... TAY SIR HAJI SAHIB APNA NAAM TAY SAHE LIKHO......
> --- In email@example.com, HAJI Zullai Shah <hajizula@> wrote:
> > Agreed with Mr. Farasat and Hmid and writing directly to Dear Bushra,
> > With context of
> > the letter of All Pakistan Librarians Group
> > Undersigned and
> > several other senior professionals wrote a general email after you very first
> > email on group to avoid dirty politics, slang language and to concentrate on
> > your own manifesto. Just gone through your letter its jus a piece of nonsense speech
> > in Urdu language, no manifesto , no past record no positivity. After readings
> > this letter I diagnosed that it seems assumption consequential airs.
> > Dear enthusiastic
> > lady, you wrote Ã¢â‚¬Å"Ã›ï¿½Ã™â€¦ Ã˜Â§Ã™Â¾Ã™â€ Ã›' Ã˜Â¨ÃšÂ¾Ã™Ë†Ã™â€žÃ™Â¾Ã™â€ Ã™â€¦Ã›Å'ÃšÂº Ã˜Â§Ã™Â¾Ã™â€ Ã›' Ã˜Â§Ã˜Â³Ã˜Â§Ã˜ÂªÃ˜Â°Ã›ï¿½ ÃšÂ©Ã™Ë† Ã˜Â§Ã™Â¾Ã™â€ Ã˜Â§ Ã˜Â±Ã›ï¿½Ã™â€ Ã™â€¦Ã˜Â§
> > Ã˜Â³Ã™â€¦Ã˜Â¬ÃšÂ¾ Ã™â€žÃ›Å'Ã˜ÂªÃ›' Ã›ï¿½Ã›Å'ÃšÂº Ã˜Â§Ã™Ë†Ã˜Â± Ã˜Â¨ÃšÂ¾Ã™Ë†Ã™â€ž Ã˜Â¬Ã˜Â§Ã˜ÂªÃ›' Ã›ï¿½Ã›Å'ÃšÂº ÃšÂ©Ã›ï¿½ Ã™Ë†Ã›ï¿½ Ã™â€žÃ˜Â§Ã›Å'Ã˜Â¨Ã˜Â±Ã˜Â¦Ã˜Â±Ã›Å'Ã™â€ Ã™â€ Ã›ï¿½Ã›Å'ÃšÂº Ã›ï¿½Ã›Å'ÃšÂº. After reading this line the phrase Ã¢â‚¬Å"a bad
> > workman fights with his toolsÃ¢â‚¬ï¿½ just prompted into my mind. Dear lady Ã˜Â§Ã™â€ ÃšË†Ã™Ë†ÃšÂº ÃšÂ©Ã›Å' ÃšÂ¯Ã˜Â±Ã›Å'ÃšË† Ã™â€ ÃšÂ¯ ÃšÂ©Ã˜Â±Ã™â€ Ã›' ÃšÂ©Ã›' Ã™â€žÃ›Å'Ã˜Â¦Ã›' Ã˜Â§Ã™â€ ÃšË†Ã›' Ã˜Â¯Ã›Å'Ã™â€ Ã˜Â§ Ã˜Â¶Ã˜Â±Ã™Ë†Ã˜Â±Ã›Å'
> > Ã™â€ Ã›ï¿½Ã›Å'ÃšÂº Ã›ï¿½Ã™Ë†Ã˜ÂªÃ˜Â§,I
> > would quote Faiz and Ahsan Danis (teacher & student, instead of giving
> > example of shoes) Ã‚Â Faiz 's poetry is far
> > better and most popular in labor community as compare with Ahsn Danis who was
> > labourer where as faiz sb led a royal life. Ã‚Â And by the way you are also Associate
> > Professor and eagerly go to deliver lectures in same department(s) then who you
> > differ yourself? no doubt you served Americans and reputed National and international
> > organization but it does not mean that there is only you who can dramatically change
> > the fate of librarian of all Pakistan and you should be rewarded with a position
> > of President PLA (HQ) just because you performed your duty in your own
> > organization as very well. You are a teacher and paasing the statement donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t consider
> > your teachers as leaders and trying to be teacher Ã¢â‚¬Â¦. Stange very strange, good
> > practical approach Have a shock for oneÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s vanity Ã™â€¦Ã˜Â§ÃšÂº Ã™â€¦Ã˜Â±Ã›' Ã™â€¦Ã˜Â§Ã˜Â³Ã›Å' Ã˜Â¬Ã›Å'Ã˜Â¦Ã›'))
> > Dear enthusiastic lady you wrote in your letter Ã›Å'Ã˜Â§Ã˜Â¯ Ã˜Â±ÃšÂ©ÃšÂ¾Ã˜Â¦Ã›' Ã˜ÂµÃ˜Â±Ã™ï¿½ Ã˜Â¬Ã™Ë†Ã˜ÂªÃ˜Â§ Ã™Â¾Ã›ï¿½Ã™â€ Ã™â€ Ã›' Ã™Ë†Ã˜Â§Ã™â€žÃ˜Â§ Ã˜Â¬Ã˜Â§Ã™â€ Ã˜ÂªÃ˜Â§ Ã›ï¿½Ã›' ÃšÂ©Ã›ï¿½ Ã˜Â¬Ã™Ë†Ã˜ÂªÃ˜Â§
> > ÃšÂ©Ã›ï¿½Ã˜Â§ÃšÂº Ã˜Â³Ã›' ÃšÂ©Ã˜Â§Ã™Â¹Ã˜ÂªÃ˜Â§ Ã›ï¿½Ã›' Ã‚Â Ã‚Â , if you donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t mind just quote the complete
> > phrase Ã˜Â¹Ã™Ë†Ã˜Â±Ã˜Âª Ã˜Â§Ã™Ë†Ã˜Â± Ã˜Â¬Ã™Ë†Ã˜ÂªÃ›Å' Ã˜Â¬Ã˜Â³Ã›' Ã™â€žÃšÂ¯Ã˜ÂªÃ›Å' Ã›ï¿½Ã›' Ã˜Â§Ã˜Â³Ã›' Ã›ï¿½Ã›Å' Ã™Â¾Ã˜ÂªÃ›ï¿½ Ã›ï¿½Ã™Ë†Ã˜ÂªÃ˜Â§ and the librarians working under you are the witnesses,
> > The wonderful lady Late Ms. Ammna (If I could remember the right name) died
> > with major diseases, Ã‚Â you were in PLA at
> > that time and her immediate boss as well what do u did for her officially,
> > leave without pay without medical facility. Is this your achievement you cannot
> > secure your own team and looking forward to whole Pakistan? What is your Past
> > record and what does u do for this profession?
> > Regards,
> > Hji Zula-i-Shah
> > Librarian
> > ________________________________
> > From: Hamid Rahman <hrawan57@>
> > To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: [plagpk] Some professional/personal reservation and humble suggestions about PLA upcoming elections
> > Ã‚Â
> > Dear all
> > Asalam-o-Alaikum
> > To endorse the Farasat's Mail I would just produce Allam Iqbal's one QITTAA
> > Ã‚Â
> > Thy wo b din kay Khidmat-e- Ustad ky evuz
> > Dil Chatha tha hudya-e- dil Paish kejeey
> > Badla zamana esa k larka, bad uz sabaq
> > Kehta master say k bill paish kejeey
> > Ã‚Â
> > Its ok now students are grown up & mature professionals & can decide by their own & can understand who is the best & deserve the vote. Nobody is with them whileÃ‚Â they are markingÃ‚Â ballots.
> > But they my youngesters are talking about their teachers does not sond well.
> > Some say teachers do have their form of ASA some comment in dofferent tone
> > to one end everybody wants to become a teacher on other teachers are .......
> > come on.
> > I think there might be some loophole at part & sure it is
> > No one is complete & after all teachers are also the humun beings
> > I remember Dr Jalal once contestedÃ‚Â for presendant & asked me that people know me well.
> > IfÃ‚Â theyÃ‚Â think I deserve & could do something for them they will vote me I wont ask anyone for vote. He won the election & became the presedant.
> > Alas
> > Ã‚Â
> > Na wo ustad rahay aur na wo shagird
> > Ã‚Â
> > But respect for teachersÃ‚Â .... ask from Imam abu hanifa
> > who once was lecturing & during the lecture all of sudden stood up
> > students got astonshed by his action and followed him looking at a guy
> > who was junky & was in a miserable position
> > students asked imam sahib what makes you to stand up in the respect of this notorious guy. Imam replied that his dad was my teacher.
> > All of them simultaneously replied that his father was worset than him.
> > imam sahib replied that no
> > once discussion was going on that
> > when a dog becomes an adult dog, nobody could reply except his father that
> > whenever a dog starts peeing with a right leg upward, means that he gets mature.
> > Thats the thing I learnt from his father.
> > So by virtue of this learning he is my teacher & this guy is a son of my respected teacher.
> > I dont understand everyone sitting outside wants to become a teacher while on the other hand we are bad people
> > But dont worry gone are the daz when you reap your deeds by third generation.
> > Nature is getting so fast its now immediate reap
> > Aik hath do Aik hath lo
> > Time is comming up & get ready.
> > Hope this is enough
> > Hamid Rahman
> > School of Library & Information Studies
> > University of Peshawar
> > KPK
> > --- On Wed, 5/30/12, Farasat Shafi ullah <farasat.shafi@> wrote:
> > From: Farasat Shafi ullah <farasat.shafi@>
> > Subject: [plagpk] Some professional/personal reservation and humble suggestions about PLA upcoming elections
> > To: "plagpk" <email@example.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, May 30, 2012, 11:28 AM
> > Ã‚Â
> > dear professional colleagues
> > aoa
> > i am writing these line with a deep sorrowÃ‚Â and its took almost the whole day that how and where to start after receiving a letter from ALL PAKISTAN LIBRARIANS GROUP.
> > On this email group as for i remember ( please make me right if wrong) we always discuss professional issues and condemn dirty politics and mud slugging.
> > As professional librarians we already know about our status and continuously striving for its betterment (individually or in group), we also know the LIS faculty comments about Librarians and how they behave in their own department but............................
> > can we blame our teacher ( who are our career councilor before we are able to be called as librarians) by these slang language script " aap kin librarins ki baat karte hain jo das ropee ki khater hume vote dete hai" or Ã‚Â "hum boolpan main apne asateza ko
> > apna rehnuma samgh leete hai" or yaad rakhai joota pehnene wale jaana t hai joota kahan kaata hai"
> > i feel embarrassed that at some stage in our lifeÃ‚Â we will remember our teacher in these words.
> > We can have differences even with our parents but are we forget all our ethical, moral and religious teaching that what respect teacher has in any individual's life. Even we know the people who talked about LIS faculty behavior or have any reservation,Ã‚Â they are willingly and happily teaching in same departments.
> > I humbly requestÃ‚Â please it is not professionalism if some one abuse and you abuse in reply doesn't make any sense.
> > The Need of time is to concentrate on positive elections campaigns and see what option or manifesto new groups have for future, what are their achievement (if old
> > buddies are there), what difference they can make
> > please don't mind for long email
> > regards
> > --
> > Farasat Shafi-ULLAH
> > (Certified Knowledge Manager)
> > (Master in Lib & Info. Mgmt,UK)
> > Librarian
> > SCME-NUST, http://scme.nust.edu.pk/
> > lib.officer@
> > Facebook: farasat Shafi-Ullah
> > LinkdIn: farasat shafi ullah
> > office # 0092-51-90855015
> > Fax # 0092-51-90855002
> > cell # 0092-344-5300122
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