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  • batmiteforever
    Hey your welcome it was the least I could do, Clearly you love the show!--- In pittscomicon@yahoogroups.com, Donald Hargnett ... said ... you ... toy ...
    Message 1 of 6 , Mar 2, 2008
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      Hey your welcome it was the least I could do, Clearly you love the
      show!--- In pittscomicon@yahoogroups.com, Donald Hargnett
      <donaldbain@...> wrote:
      >
      > Thanks to everyone who responded and shared their thoughts
      > intelligently. And now for batmite.,,,
      >
      > Quote batmite "Hey here is an idea don't go"
      > Here's another idea, read my post, particularly the part where I
      said
      > I'm not going.
      >
      > Quote batmite"try and compare the two you must be smoking something
      you
      > should pass around"
      > I never compared the two. I go to Steelcity as well, but it's a
      toy
      > show with very few comic vendors.
      >
      > Quote batmite "Are those people driving or flying in for the
      bargins or
      > is it because of a guest or an artist they want to meet"
      > I don't know, that's why I asked instead of assuming everyone's
      reason
      > for going is the same as mine.
      >
      > Quote batmite ".If there was a separte charge for artist alley and
      > Frank Cho came back would you complain that you had to pay to meet
      one
      > guy?"
      > No. Mentioning Franks was more to illustrate that in all the times
      > I've gone to the Con, there's only been one guest I've wanted to
      meet
      > and the guests are not a motivation for attending.
      >
      > Quote batmite " all the vendors that do show up at the Con to sell
      you
      > stuff come from different states, so why come to the Burgh"
      > To sell stuff. Would they sell more if there were more people
      > attending because it is cheaper to get in? Seems a large number of
      > them stopped attending so we have multiple DVD tables and water
      > proofers.
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > On Mar 2, 2008, at 6:02 PM, norvandell wrote:
      >
      > > I go to the con as a guest artist every year, and over the years,
      > > I have noticed from time to time, the lack of certain guests and
      > > sometimes fewer vendors.
      > >
      > > Thing is, some of those vendors, have bought mulitple spaces and
      > > have expanded from years prior, to try to sell more. As for the
      > > guests, yes there are other cons who get bigger guests and more
      of
      > > them, but there is a cost in getting them to come to the show.
      > >
      > > Its hard when some of the "Wizard" shows try everything in their
      > > power to out trump the smaller cons in getting guests, which is
      > > difficult, when you as an organizer, have to go to many of those
      > > above cons the year before to try to invite guests to your show
      the
      > > following year.
      > >
      > > I saw Renee in Baltimore this past Sept., doing this very same
      > > thing, talking to guests and vendors to come out to a show thats
      not
      > > as big as SD or a Chicago or New York. The bigger cons do have
      bigger
      > > budgets to help with bringing in the big names from the mecca of
      > > comic artists, California and New York.
      > >
      > > Tan was at the Pitt show back a few years ago, and since then,
      > > Wizard, has taken over some of the cons across the country, and
      > > turned them from a more traditional comic con, to more of a
      multi-
      > > media event.
      > >
      > > I attended the first show Wizard did in Chicago, and while it was
      > > big, Pitt was much more relaxed. These bigger cons, have had to
      rely
      > > on the multi-media aspect to bring in the people, while Pitt has
      been
      > > able to keep the show more traditional and artist friendly, and
      the
      > > same high quality.
      > >
      > > The Georges have brought in wrestlers and actors over the years,
      > > but have also managed to have keep it to what I think a show
      should
      > > be. I do want more vendors, so there is a better selection of
      > > goodies, and I'm sure that the show will grow with time. Its
      still a
      > > young con in comparison.
      > >
      > > Something that most people don't realize, is that other con
      > > organizers come to Pitt every year to see how a good show is
      run, and
      > > take that back to their show. Some of the best shows you'll ever
      go
      > > to, will be like Pitt. Its when the show goes coporate, and turns
      > > into a Wizard con, that I'll stop going.
      > >
      > > Sure, save your money for SD, and spend about a half years wage
      > > too. Its MORE money to get in, to sleep in a hotel and eat, and
      > > you'll wait hours in line to get Jim Lee's autograph, only to
      find
      > > out he went home hours ago.
      > >
      > > If it weren't for the arists, would there even be a show?
      > >
      > > Tod Allen Smith
      > > 2008 guest
      > > from Altoona Pa.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
    • Jim Balent Studios
      here here! we don t do NY.... ;-) heehee H
      Message 2 of 6 , Mar 3, 2008
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        here here!
        we don't do NY....
        ;-)
        heehee
        H

        norvandell wrote:

        I go to the con as a guest artist every year, and over the years,
        I have noticed from time to time, the lack of certain guests and
        sometimes fewer vendors.

        Thing is, some of those vendors, have bought mulitple spaces and
        have expanded from years prior, to try to sell more. As for the
        guests, yes there are other cons who get bigger guests and more of
        them, but there is a cost in getting them to come to the show.

        Its hard when some of the "Wizard" shows try everything in their
        power to out trump the smaller cons in getting guests, which is
        difficult, when you as an organizer, have to go to many of those
        above cons the year before to try to invite guests to your show the
        following year.

        I saw Renee in Baltimore this past Sept., doing this very same
        thing, talking to guests and vendors to come out to a show thats not
        as big as SD or a Chicago or New York. The bigger cons do have bigger
        budgets to help with bringing in the big names from the mecca of
        comic artists, California and New York.

        Tan was at the Pitt show back a few years ago, and since then,
        Wizard, has taken over some of the cons across the country, and
        turned them from a more traditional comic con, to more of a multi-
        media event.

        I attended the first show Wizard did in Chicago, and while it was
        big, Pitt was much more relaxed. These bigger cons, have had to rely
        on the multi-media aspect to bring in the people, while Pitt has been
        able to keep the show more traditional and artist friendly, and the
        same high quality.

        The Georges have brought in wrestlers and actors over the years,
        but have also managed to have keep it to what I think a show should
        be. I do want more vendors, so there is a better selection of
        goodies, and I'm sure that the show will grow with time. Its still a
        young con in comparison.

        Something that most people don't realize, is that other con
        organizers come to Pitt every year to see how a good show is run, and
        take that back to their show. Some of the best shows you'll ever go
        to, will be like Pitt. Its when the show goes coporate, and turns
        into a Wizard con, that I'll stop going.

        Sure, save your money for SD, and spend about a half years wage
        too. Its MORE money to get in, to sleep in a hotel and eat, and
        you'll wait hours in line to get Jim Lee's autograph, only to find
        out he went home hours ago.

        If it weren't for the arists, would there even be a show?

        Tod Allen Smith
        2008 guest
        from Altoona Pa.


      • Jim Balent Studios
        cupcake anyone?
        Message 3 of 6 , Mar 3, 2008
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          cupcake anyone?

          Donald Hargnett wrote:

          Thanks to everyone who responded and shared their thoughts
          intelligently. And now for batmite.,,,

          Quote batmite "Hey here is an idea don't go"
          Here's another idea, read my post, particularly the part where I said
          I'm not going.

          Quote batmite"try and compare the two you must be smoking something you
          should pass around"
          I never compared the two. I go to Steelcity as well, but it's a toy
          show with very few comic vendors.

          Quote batmite "Are those people driving or flying in for the bargins or
          is it because of a guest or an artist they want to meet"
          I don't know, that's why I asked instead of assuming everyone's reason
          for going is the same as mine.

          Quote batmite ".If there was a separte charge for artist alley and
          Frank Cho came back would you complain that you had to pay to meet one
          guy?"
          No. Mentioning Franks was more to illustrate that in all the times
          I've gone to the Con, there's only been one guest I've wanted to meet
          and the guests are not a motivation for attending.

          Quote batmite " all the vendors that do show up at the Con to sell you
          stuff come from different states, so why come to the Burgh"
          To sell stuff. Would they sell more if there were more people
          attending because it is cheaper to get in? Seems a large number of
          them stopped attending so we have multiple DVD tables and water
          proofers.

          On Mar 2, 2008, at 6:02 PM, norvandell wrote:

          > I go to the con as a guest artist every year, and over the years,
          > I have noticed from time to time, the lack of certain guests and
          > sometimes fewer vendors.
          >
          > Thing is, some of those vendors, have bought mulitple spaces and
          > have expanded from years prior, to try to sell more. As for the
          > guests, yes there are other cons who get bigger guests and more of
          > them, but there is a cost in getting them to come to the show.
          >
          > Its hard when some of the "Wizard" shows try everything in their
          > power to out trump the smaller cons in getting guests, which is
          > difficult, when you as an organizer, have to go to many of those
          > above cons the year before to try to invite guests to your show the
          > following year.
          >
          > I saw Renee in Baltimore this past Sept., doing this very same
          > thing, talking to guests and vendors to come out to a show thats not
          > as big as SD or a Chicago or New York. The bigger cons do have bigger
          > budgets to help with bringing in the big names from the mecca of
          > comic artists, California and New York.
          >
          > Tan was at the Pitt show back a few years ago, and since then,
          > Wizard, has taken over some of the cons across the country, and
          > turned them from a more traditional comic con, to more of a multi-
          > media event.
          >
          > I attended the first show Wizard did in Chicago, and while it was
          > big, Pitt was much more relaxed. These bigger cons, have had to rely
          > on the multi-media aspect to bring in the people, while Pitt has been
          > able to keep the show more traditional and artist friendly, and the
          > same high quality.
          >
          > The Georges have brought in wrestlers and actors over the years,
          > but have also managed to have keep it to what I think a show should
          > be. I do want more vendors, so there is a better selection of
          > goodies, and I'm sure that the show will grow with time. Its still a
          > young con in comparison.
          >
          > Something that most people don't realize, is that other con
          > organizers come to Pitt every year to see how a good show is run, and
          > take that back to their show. Some of the best shows you'll ever go
          > to, will be like Pitt. Its when the show goes coporate, and turns
          > into a Wizard con, that I'll stop going.
          >
          > Sure, save your money for SD, and spend about a half years wage
          > too. Its MORE money to get in, to sleep in a hotel and eat, and
          > you'll wait hours in line to get Jim Lee's autograph, only to find
          > out he went home hours ago.
          >
          > If it weren't for the arists, would there even be a show?
          >
          > Tod Allen Smith
          > 2008 guest
          > from Altoona Pa.
          >
          >
          >


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