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  • Maria Theresa R. Termulo, M.D.
    How can I acquire a copy of this newsletter? From: pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com [mailto:pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of joshualipana Sent:
    Message 1 of 7 , Sep 8, 2008
      How can I acquire a copy of this newsletter?



      From: pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com [mailto:pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com]
      On Behalf Of joshualipana
      Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:36 PM
      To: pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [pinoy_atheists] Shouts for Utopia




      This article is from the newsletter "Freethinkers Reader"
      published Bi-monthly by CFI / Philippines

      Shouts for Utopia

      (Faith and its connections to Utopianism)

      By: Joshua Lipana

      I see in Marx a man who had vision of a society without oppression a man
      who could not foresee the deeds of his future disciples. Much like
      Jesus his message of compassion and equality was turned into a murderous
      crusade by their followers. There is something in both visions to be
      admired. But in painting an alluring and unreachable paradise both men
      gave an excuse to their followers to do anything to accomplish their own
      utopia. Such is the case with most religion's and ideologies which
      at their end game have a paradise. The ends will always justify the
      means in their view. Nothing is spared nor should be spared because of
      the rewards at hand. Such is the thinking that has brought us almost
      every human tragedy. Believing in something with all your heart may seem
      admirable but the heart often times does not listen to reason. And
      although sometimes there are rewards when this manifest's in love
      but when faith is the one that appears tragedy occurs.

      It is blind faith I believe that turns the most admirable visions of
      society grounded in some reason into catastrophic and dangerous
      movements.

      Faith is the one that drives good people to commit bad things. For it is
      only this blind faith which is in some true believers in a cause that
      can block out all reason. Such is the faith that caused hijackers to
      kill themselves while destroying the twin towers in 9/11, Such is the
      faith that made Roman Catholics of the dark ages to commit the
      atrocities that they did such as mass tortures and mass murders. It is
      faith that gave the Catholics and Protestants the confidence to burn
      women and children in their various witch trials of centuries past,
      it's also this blind faith that has caused almost every human
      tragedy known to man. Faith is the problem. Faith is primarily fed by
      superstition but can arise from any idea which is rigid.

      Although this faith can give comfort; the harm it causes is too grave
      and the comfort it gives is at the end false. The comforts from faith is
      no better then a white lie. Faith is a form of withdrawal from reality.
      It is a form substitution for a utopia. It is the easiest escape. And
      though this may sound alluring facing life with a deluded world view is
      harmful to the man and its society. This personal faith will manifest
      itself in actions which I have specified above. It can make a man do
      good things too. But a man can do good things without faith. But a man
      seldom does bad things without faith. It is which that drives most acts
      of grave violence in this world. Faith is the problem. Now as for the
      desire of a utopia grows and grows two things can come about Faith or
      Hard-work to get there. Utopianism can arise from anything but it is
      blind faith that makes utopian thought deadly there are some Utopian
      ideas that's caused great progress for mankind as well. Communism,
      Christianity and some other world religions have that in common. And now
      the shouts for utopia started with religion primed with Socialism and
      now withers with Democracy. Utopians had good ideas but the problem was
      they turned their ideas into sacred rigid truths. Dogma. The days of
      utopians are fading.For better or for worse. In due time hopefully
      with the voice of reason on our side faith and unreason may finally be
      extinguished.

      Joshua Lipana is the Editor-in-Chief of Freethinkers reader.

      [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





      [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
    • joshualipana
      Hi Maria you can either give us your mailing address or you could go to popular bookstore at 305 T. Morato Ave., Quezon City. ...
      Message 2 of 7 , Sep 8, 2008
        Hi Maria you can either give us your mailing address or you could go
        to popular bookstore at 305 T. Morato Ave., Quezon City.


        --- In pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com, "Maria Theresa R. Termulo,
        M.D." <tesstermulo@...> wrote:
        >
        > How can I acquire a copy of this newsletter?
        >
        >
        >
        > From: pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
        [mailto:pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com]
        > On Behalf Of joshualipana
        > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:36 PM
        > To: pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
        > Subject: [pinoy_atheists] Shouts for Utopia
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > This article is from the newsletter "Freethinkers Reader"
        > published Bi-monthly by CFI / Philippines
        >
        > Shouts for Utopia
        >
        > (Faith and its connections to Utopianism)
        >
        > By: Joshua Lipana
        >
        > I see in Marx a man who had vision of a society without oppression
        a man
        > who could not foresee the deeds of his future disciples. Much like
        > Jesus his message of compassion and equality was turned into a
        murderous
        > crusade by their followers. There is something in both visions to
        be
        > admired. But in painting an alluring and unreachable paradise both
        men
        > gave an excuse to their followers to do anything to accomplish
        their own
        > utopia. Such is the case with most religion's and ideologies which
        > at their end game have a paradise. The ends will always justify the
        > means in their view. Nothing is spared nor should be spared
        because of
        > the rewards at hand. Such is the thinking that has brought us
        almost
        > every human tragedy. Believing in something with all your heart
        may seem
        > admirable but the heart often times does not listen to reason. And
        > although sometimes there are rewards when this manifest's in love
        > but when faith is the one that appears tragedy occurs.
        >
        > It is blind faith I believe that turns the most admirable visions
        of
        > society grounded in some reason into catastrophic and dangerous
        > movements.
        >
        > Faith is the one that drives good people to commit bad things. For
        it is
        > only this blind faith which is in some true believers in a cause
        that
        > can block out all reason. Such is the faith that caused hijackers
        to
        > kill themselves while destroying the twin towers in 9/11, Such is
        the
        > faith that made Roman Catholics of the dark ages to commit the
        > atrocities that they did such as mass tortures and mass murders.
        It is
        > faith that gave the Catholics and Protestants the confidence to
        burn
        > women and children in their various witch trials of centuries past,
        > it's also this blind faith that has caused almost every human
        > tragedy known to man. Faith is the problem. Faith is primarily fed
        by
        > superstition but can arise from any idea which is rigid.
        >
        > Although this faith can give comfort; the harm it causes is too
        grave
        > and the comfort it gives is at the end false. The comforts from
        faith is
        > no better then a white lie. Faith is a form of withdrawal from
        reality.
        > It is a form substitution for a utopia. It is the easiest escape.
        And
        > though this may sound alluring facing life with a deluded world
        view is
        > harmful to the man and its society. This personal faith will
        manifest
        > itself in actions which I have specified above. It can make a man
        do
        > good things too. But a man can do good things without faith. But a
        man
        > seldom does bad things without faith. It is which that drives most
        acts
        > of grave violence in this world. Faith is the problem. Now as for
        the
        > desire of a utopia grows and grows two things can come about Faith
        or
        > Hard-work to get there. Utopianism can arise from anything but it
        is
        > blind faith that makes utopian thought deadly there are some
        Utopian
        > ideas that's caused great progress for mankind as well. Communism,
        > Christianity and some other world religions have that in common.
        And now
        > the shouts for utopia started with religion primed with Socialism
        and
        > now withers with Democracy. Utopians had good ideas but the
        problem was
        > they turned their ideas into sacred rigid truths. Dogma. The days
        of
        > utopians are fading.For better or for worse. In due time hopefully
        > with the voice of reason on our side faith and unreason may
        finally be
        > extinguished.
        >
        > Joshua Lipana is the Editor-in-Chief of Freethinkers reader.
        >
        > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        >
      • Maria Theresa R. Termulo, M.D.
        Hello Joshua, can I just email it to you privately? Thanks. From: pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com [mailto:pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
        Message 3 of 7 , Sep 8, 2008
          Hello Joshua, can I just email it to you privately? Thanks.



          From: pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com [mailto:pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com]
          On Behalf Of joshualipana
          Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 11:45 PM
          To: pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [pinoy_atheists] Re: Shouts for Utopia



          Hi Maria you can either give us your mailing address or you could go
          to popular bookstore at 305 T. Morato Ave., Quezon City.

          --- In pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
          <mailto:pinoy_atheists%40yahoogroups.com> , "Maria Theresa R. Termulo,
          M.D." <tesstermulo@...> wrote:
          >
          > How can I acquire a copy of this newsletter?
          >
          >
          >
          > From: pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
          <mailto:pinoy_atheists%40yahoogroups.com>
          [mailto:pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
          <mailto:pinoy_atheists%40yahoogroups.com> ]
          > On Behalf Of joshualipana
          > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:36 PM
          > To: pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
          <mailto:pinoy_atheists%40yahoogroups.com>
          > Subject: [pinoy_atheists] Shouts for Utopia
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > This article is from the newsletter "Freethinkers Reader"
          > published Bi-monthly by CFI / Philippines
          >
          > Shouts for Utopia
          >
          > (Faith and its connections to Utopianism)
          >
          > By: Joshua Lipana
          >
          > I see in Marx a man who had vision of a society without oppression
          a man
          > who could not foresee the deeds of his future disciples. Much like
          > Jesus his message of compassion and equality was turned into a
          murderous
          > crusade by their followers. There is something in both visions to
          be
          > admired. But in painting an alluring and unreachable paradise both
          men
          > gave an excuse to their followers to do anything to accomplish
          their own
          > utopia. Such is the case with most religion's and ideologies which
          > at their end game have a paradise. The ends will always justify the
          > means in their view. Nothing is spared nor should be spared
          because of
          > the rewards at hand. Such is the thinking that has brought us
          almost
          > every human tragedy. Believing in something with all your heart
          may seem
          > admirable but the heart often times does not listen to reason. And
          > although sometimes there are rewards when this manifest's in love
          > but when faith is the one that appears tragedy occurs.
          >
          > It is blind faith I believe that turns the most admirable visions
          of
          > society grounded in some reason into catastrophic and dangerous
          > movements.
          >
          > Faith is the one that drives good people to commit bad things. For
          it is
          > only this blind faith which is in some true believers in a cause
          that
          > can block out all reason. Such is the faith that caused hijackers
          to
          > kill themselves while destroying the twin towers in 9/11, Such is
          the
          > faith that made Roman Catholics of the dark ages to commit the
          > atrocities that they did such as mass tortures and mass murders.
          It is
          > faith that gave the Catholics and Protestants the confidence to
          burn
          > women and children in their various witch trials of centuries past,
          > it's also this blind faith that has caused almost every human
          > tragedy known to man. Faith is the problem. Faith is primarily fed
          by
          > superstition but can arise from any idea which is rigid.
          >
          > Although this faith can give comfort; the harm it causes is too
          grave
          > and the comfort it gives is at the end false. The comforts from
          faith is
          > no better then a white lie. Faith is a form of withdrawal from
          reality.
          > It is a form substitution for a utopia. It is the easiest escape.
          And
          > though this may sound alluring facing life with a deluded world
          view is
          > harmful to the man and its society. This personal faith will
          manifest
          > itself in actions which I have specified above. It can make a man
          do
          > good things too. But a man can do good things without faith. But a
          man
          > seldom does bad things without faith. It is which that drives most
          acts
          > of grave violence in this world. Faith is the problem. Now as for
          the
          > desire of a utopia grows and grows two things can come about Faith
          or
          > Hard-work to get there. Utopianism can arise from anything but it
          is
          > blind faith that makes utopian thought deadly there are some
          Utopian
          > ideas that's caused great progress for mankind as well. Communism,
          > Christianity and some other world religions have that in common.
          And now
          > the shouts for utopia started with religion primed with Socialism
          and
          > now withers with Democracy. Utopians had good ideas but the
          problem was
          > they turned their ideas into sacred rigid truths. Dogma. The days
          of
          > utopians are fading.For better or for worse. In due time hopefully
          > with the voice of reason on our side faith and unreason may
          finally be
          > extinguished.
          >
          > Joshua Lipana is the Editor-in-Chief of Freethinkers reader.
          >
          > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          >





          [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        • joshualipana
          Sure. Thats no problem. Its joshualipana@yahoo.com ... [mailto:pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com] ... go ... Termulo, ... oppression ... like ... to ... both ...
          Message 4 of 7 , Sep 8, 2008
            Sure. Thats no problem. Its joshualipana@...


            --- In pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com, "Maria Theresa R. Termulo,
            M.D." <tesstermulo@...> wrote:
            >
            > Hello Joshua, can I just email it to you privately? Thanks.
            >
            >
            >
            > From: pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
            [mailto:pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com]
            > On Behalf Of joshualipana
            > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 11:45 PM
            > To: pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: [pinoy_atheists] Re: Shouts for Utopia
            >
            >
            >
            > Hi Maria you can either give us your mailing address or you could
            go
            > to popular bookstore at 305 T. Morato Ave., Quezon City.
            >
            > --- In pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
            > <mailto:pinoy_atheists%40yahoogroups.com> , "Maria Theresa R.
            Termulo,
            > M.D." <tesstermulo@> wrote:
            > >
            > > How can I acquire a copy of this newsletter?
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > From: pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
            > <mailto:pinoy_atheists%40yahoogroups.com>
            > [mailto:pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
            > <mailto:pinoy_atheists%40yahoogroups.com> ]
            > > On Behalf Of joshualipana
            > > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:36 PM
            > > To: pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
            > <mailto:pinoy_atheists%40yahoogroups.com>
            > > Subject: [pinoy_atheists] Shouts for Utopia
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > This article is from the newsletter "Freethinkers Reader"
            > > published Bi-monthly by CFI / Philippines
            > >
            > > Shouts for Utopia
            > >
            > > (Faith and its connections to Utopianism)
            > >
            > > By: Joshua Lipana
            > >
            > > I see in Marx a man who had vision of a society without
            oppression
            > a man
            > > who could not foresee the deeds of his future disciples. Much
            like
            > > Jesus his message of compassion and equality was turned into a
            > murderous
            > > crusade by their followers. There is something in both visions
            to
            > be
            > > admired. But in painting an alluring and unreachable paradise
            both
            > men
            > > gave an excuse to their followers to do anything to accomplish
            > their own
            > > utopia. Such is the case with most religion's and ideologies
            which
            > > at their end game have a paradise. The ends will always justify
            the
            > > means in their view. Nothing is spared nor should be spared
            > because of
            > > the rewards at hand. Such is the thinking that has brought us
            > almost
            > > every human tragedy. Believing in something with all your heart
            > may seem
            > > admirable but the heart often times does not listen to reason.
            And
            > > although sometimes there are rewards when this manifest's in love
            > > but when faith is the one that appears tragedy occurs.
            > >
            > > It is blind faith I believe that turns the most admirable
            visions
            > of
            > > society grounded in some reason into catastrophic and dangerous
            > > movements.
            > >
            > > Faith is the one that drives good people to commit bad things.
            For
            > it is
            > > only this blind faith which is in some true believers in a cause
            > that
            > > can block out all reason. Such is the faith that caused
            hijackers
            > to
            > > kill themselves while destroying the twin towers in 9/11, Such
            is
            > the
            > > faith that made Roman Catholics of the dark ages to commit the
            > > atrocities that they did such as mass tortures and mass murders.
            > It is
            > > faith that gave the Catholics and Protestants the confidence to
            > burn
            > > women and children in their various witch trials of centuries
            past,
            > > it's also this blind faith that has caused almost every human
            > > tragedy known to man. Faith is the problem. Faith is primarily
            fed
            > by
            > > superstition but can arise from any idea which is rigid.
            > >
            > > Although this faith can give comfort; the harm it causes is too
            > grave
            > > and the comfort it gives is at the end false. The comforts from
            > faith is
            > > no better then a white lie. Faith is a form of withdrawal from
            > reality.
            > > It is a form substitution for a utopia. It is the easiest
            escape.
            > And
            > > though this may sound alluring facing life with a deluded world
            > view is
            > > harmful to the man and its society. This personal faith will
            > manifest
            > > itself in actions which I have specified above. It can make a
            man
            > do
            > > good things too. But a man can do good things without faith. But
            a
            > man
            > > seldom does bad things without faith. It is which that drives
            most
            > acts
            > > of grave violence in this world. Faith is the problem. Now as
            for
            > the
            > > desire of a utopia grows and grows two things can come about
            Faith
            > or
            > > Hard-work to get there. Utopianism can arise from anything but
            it
            > is
            > > blind faith that makes utopian thought deadly there are some
            > Utopian
            > > ideas that's caused great progress for mankind as well.
            Communism,
            > > Christianity and some other world religions have that in common.
            > And now
            > > the shouts for utopia started with religion primed with
            Socialism
            > and
            > > now withers with Democracy. Utopians had good ideas but the
            > problem was
            > > they turned their ideas into sacred rigid truths. Dogma. The
            days
            > of
            > > utopians are fading.For better or for worse. In due time
            hopefully
            > > with the voice of reason on our side faith and unreason may
            > finally be
            > > extinguished.
            > >
            > > Joshua Lipana is the Editor-in-Chief of Freethinkers reader.
            > >
            > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            > >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            >
          • joshualipana
            Sure. Thats no problem. Its joshualipana@yahoo.com ... [mailto:pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com] ... go ... Termulo, ... oppression ... like ... to ... both ...
            Message 5 of 7 , Sep 8, 2008
              Sure. Thats no problem. Its joshualipana@...


              --- In pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com, "Maria Theresa R. Termulo,
              M.D." <tesstermulo@...> wrote:
              >
              > Hello Joshua, can I just email it to you privately? Thanks.
              >
              >
              >
              > From: pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
              [mailto:pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com]
              > On Behalf Of joshualipana
              > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 11:45 PM
              > To: pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
              > Subject: [pinoy_atheists] Re: Shouts for Utopia
              >
              >
              >
              > Hi Maria you can either give us your mailing address or you could
              go
              > to popular bookstore at 305 T. Morato Ave., Quezon City.
              >
              > --- In pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
              > <mailto:pinoy_atheists%40yahoogroups.com> , "Maria Theresa R.
              Termulo,
              > M.D." <tesstermulo@> wrote:
              > >
              > > How can I acquire a copy of this newsletter?
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > From: pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
              > <mailto:pinoy_atheists%40yahoogroups.com>
              > [mailto:pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
              > <mailto:pinoy_atheists%40yahoogroups.com> ]
              > > On Behalf Of joshualipana
              > > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:36 PM
              > > To: pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
              > <mailto:pinoy_atheists%40yahoogroups.com>
              > > Subject: [pinoy_atheists] Shouts for Utopia
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > This article is from the newsletter "Freethinkers Reader"
              > > published Bi-monthly by CFI / Philippines
              > >
              > > Shouts for Utopia
              > >
              > > (Faith and its connections to Utopianism)
              > >
              > > By: Joshua Lipana
              > >
              > > I see in Marx a man who had vision of a society without
              oppression
              > a man
              > > who could not foresee the deeds of his future disciples. Much
              like
              > > Jesus his message of compassion and equality was turned into a
              > murderous
              > > crusade by their followers. There is something in both visions
              to
              > be
              > > admired. But in painting an alluring and unreachable paradise
              both
              > men
              > > gave an excuse to their followers to do anything to accomplish
              > their own
              > > utopia. Such is the case with most religion's and ideologies
              which
              > > at their end game have a paradise. The ends will always justify
              the
              > > means in their view. Nothing is spared nor should be spared
              > because of
              > > the rewards at hand. Such is the thinking that has brought us
              > almost
              > > every human tragedy. Believing in something with all your heart
              > may seem
              > > admirable but the heart often times does not listen to reason.
              And
              > > although sometimes there are rewards when this manifest's in love
              > > but when faith is the one that appears tragedy occurs.
              > >
              > > It is blind faith I believe that turns the most admirable
              visions
              > of
              > > society grounded in some reason into catastrophic and dangerous
              > > movements.
              > >
              > > Faith is the one that drives good people to commit bad things.
              For
              > it is
              > > only this blind faith which is in some true believers in a cause
              > that
              > > can block out all reason. Such is the faith that caused
              hijackers
              > to
              > > kill themselves while destroying the twin towers in 9/11, Such
              is
              > the
              > > faith that made Roman Catholics of the dark ages to commit the
              > > atrocities that they did such as mass tortures and mass murders.
              > It is
              > > faith that gave the Catholics and Protestants the confidence to
              > burn
              > > women and children in their various witch trials of centuries
              past,
              > > it's also this blind faith that has caused almost every human
              > > tragedy known to man. Faith is the problem. Faith is primarily
              fed
              > by
              > > superstition but can arise from any idea which is rigid.
              > >
              > > Although this faith can give comfort; the harm it causes is too
              > grave
              > > and the comfort it gives is at the end false. The comforts from
              > faith is
              > > no better then a white lie. Faith is a form of withdrawal from
              > reality.
              > > It is a form substitution for a utopia. It is the easiest
              escape.
              > And
              > > though this may sound alluring facing life with a deluded world
              > view is
              > > harmful to the man and its society. This personal faith will
              > manifest
              > > itself in actions which I have specified above. It can make a
              man
              > do
              > > good things too. But a man can do good things without faith. But
              a
              > man
              > > seldom does bad things without faith. It is which that drives
              most
              > acts
              > > of grave violence in this world. Faith is the problem. Now as
              for
              > the
              > > desire of a utopia grows and grows two things can come about
              Faith
              > or
              > > Hard-work to get there. Utopianism can arise from anything but
              it
              > is
              > > blind faith that makes utopian thought deadly there are some
              > Utopian
              > > ideas that's caused great progress for mankind as well.
              Communism,
              > > Christianity and some other world religions have that in common.
              > And now
              > > the shouts for utopia started with religion primed with
              Socialism
              > and
              > > now withers with Democracy. Utopians had good ideas but the
              > problem was
              > > they turned their ideas into sacred rigid truths. Dogma. The
              days
              > of
              > > utopians are fading.For better or for worse. In due time
              hopefully
              > > with the voice of reason on our side faith and unreason may
              > finally be
              > > extinguished.
              > >
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            • joshualipana
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              Message 6 of 7 , Sep 8, 2008
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                --- In pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com, "joshualipana"
                <joshualipana@...> wrote:
                >
                > Sure. Thats no problem. Its joshualipana@...
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                > --- In pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com, "Maria Theresa R. Termulo,
                > M.D." <tesstermulo@> wrote:
                > >
                > > Hello Joshua, can I just email it to you privately? Thanks.
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > From: pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
                > [mailto:pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com]
                > > On Behalf Of joshualipana
                > > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 11:45 PM
                > > To: pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
                > > Subject: [pinoy_atheists] Re: Shouts for Utopia
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > Hi Maria you can either give us your mailing address or you
                could
                > go
                > > to popular bookstore at 305 T. Morato Ave., Quezon City.
                > >
                > > --- In pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
                > > <mailto:pinoy_atheists%40yahoogroups.com> , "Maria Theresa R.
                > Termulo,
                > > M.D." <tesstermulo@> wrote:
                > > >
                > > > How can I acquire a copy of this newsletter?
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > > From: pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
                > > <mailto:pinoy_atheists%40yahoogroups.com>
                > > [mailto:pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
                > > <mailto:pinoy_atheists%40yahoogroups.com> ]
                > > > On Behalf Of joshualipana
                > > > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:36 PM
                > > > To: pinoy_atheists@yahoogroups.com
                > > <mailto:pinoy_atheists%40yahoogroups.com>
                > > > Subject: [pinoy_atheists] Shouts for Utopia
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > > This article is from the newsletter "Freethinkers Reader"
                > > > published Bi-monthly by CFI / Philippines
                > > >
                > > > Shouts for Utopia
                > > >
                > > > (Faith and its connections to Utopianism)
                > > >
                > > > By: Joshua Lipana
                > > >
                > > > I see in Marx a man who had vision of a society without
                > oppression
                > > a man
                > > > who could not foresee the deeds of his future disciples. Much
                > like
                > > > Jesus his message of compassion and equality was turned into a
                > > murderous
                > > > crusade by their followers. There is something in both visions
                > to
                > > be
                > > > admired. But in painting an alluring and unreachable paradise
                > both
                > > men
                > > > gave an excuse to their followers to do anything to accomplish
                > > their own
                > > > utopia. Such is the case with most religion's and ideologies
                > which
                > > > at their end game have a paradise. The ends will always
                justify
                > the
                > > > means in their view. Nothing is spared nor should be spared
                > > because of
                > > > the rewards at hand. Such is the thinking that has brought us
                > > almost
                > > > every human tragedy. Believing in something with all your
                heart
                > > may seem
                > > > admirable but the heart often times does not listen to reason.
                > And
                > > > although sometimes there are rewards when this manifest's in
                love
                > > > but when faith is the one that appears tragedy occurs.
                > > >
                > > > It is blind faith I believe that turns the most admirable
                > visions
                > > of
                > > > society grounded in some reason into catastrophic and dangerous
                > > > movements.
                > > >
                > > > Faith is the one that drives good people to commit bad things.
                > For
                > > it is
                > > > only this blind faith which is in some true believers in a
                cause
                > > that
                > > > can block out all reason. Such is the faith that caused
                > hijackers
                > > to
                > > > kill themselves while destroying the twin towers in 9/11, Such
                > is
                > > the
                > > > faith that made Roman Catholics of the dark ages to commit the
                > > > atrocities that they did such as mass tortures and mass
                murders.
                > > It is
                > > > faith that gave the Catholics and Protestants the confidence
                to
                > > burn
                > > > women and children in their various witch trials of centuries
                > past,
                > > > it's also this blind faith that has caused almost every human
                > > > tragedy known to man. Faith is the problem. Faith is primarily
                > fed
                > > by
                > > > superstition but can arise from any idea which is rigid.
                > > >
                > > > Although this faith can give comfort; the harm it causes is
                too
                > > grave
                > > > and the comfort it gives is at the end false. The comforts
                from
                > > faith is
                > > > no better then a white lie. Faith is a form of withdrawal from
                > > reality.
                > > > It is a form substitution for a utopia. It is the easiest
                > escape.
                > > And
                > > > though this may sound alluring facing life with a deluded
                world
                > > view is
                > > > harmful to the man and its society. This personal faith will
                > > manifest
                > > > itself in actions which I have specified above. It can make a
                > man
                > > do
                > > > good things too. But a man can do good things without faith.
                But
                > a
                > > man
                > > > seldom does bad things without faith. It is which that drives
                > most
                > > acts
                > > > of grave violence in this world. Faith is the problem. Now as
                > for
                > > the
                > > > desire of a utopia grows and grows two things can come about
                > Faith
                > > or
                > > > Hard-work to get there. Utopianism can arise from anything but
                > it
                > > is
                > > > blind faith that makes utopian thought deadly there are some
                > > Utopian
                > > > ideas that's caused great progress for mankind as well.
                > Communism,
                > > > Christianity and some other world religions have that in
                common.
                > > And now
                > > > the shouts for utopia started with religion primed with
                > Socialism
                > > and
                > > > now withers with Democracy. Utopians had good ideas but the
                > > problem was
                > > > they turned their ideas into sacred rigid truths. Dogma. The
                > days
                > > of
                > > > utopians are fading.For better or for worse. In due time
                > hopefully
                > > > with the voice of reason on our side faith and unreason may
                > > finally be
                > > > extinguished.
                > > >
                > > > Joshua Lipana is the Editor-in-Chief of Freethinkers reader.
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