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  • toni_s1950
    Hello, I am very new to this awsome art form and would love to learn from y all. I have made several baskets and a cup but i have MUCH to learn. A few
    Message 1 of 5 , Jul 21, 2009
      Hello, I am very new to this awsome art form and would love to learn from y'all. I have made several baskets and a cup but i have MUCH to learn. A few questions if you please
      1 where do you get the walnut slices and are they expensive
      2 how do you achieve those "airy" spaces between rounds?
      3 how do you make thos airy centers?? I looks like they are made from the rafia somehow, NOT the cutout wood pieces... though Id like to know also do you make those yourself or can you buy them?
      4 What media "string" do you use for binding for those that are NOT made with rafia?

      I have 20 acres of loblolly pines here so I have that covered.. LOL
      I guess thats enough to start with. MUCH thanks in advance and I look forward to achieving just a bit of the awsome art I have seen here!
      Toni
    • GMArcher
      Toni, Welcome to the group. The airy spaces you re refering to at the center of baskets and sometimes between coils are created by doing something called
      Message 2 of 5 , Jul 21, 2009
        Toni,

        Welcome to the group.

        The "airy" spaces you're refering to at the center of baskets and sometimes between coils are created by doing something called teneriffe on plastic or wire shapes, then stitching them into the basket as you coil the basket. You can probably find some information on the internet if you search on teneriffe. Also, the books by Jeanne McFarland listed in the links section of this group have lots of baskets with teneriffe shapes.

        If you go to the link to Judy Mallow's site, and click on supplies, you'll find black walnut slices and things other than raffia to use as thread. She sells artificial sinew, upholstery thread, and waxed linen. You can find other sources, but her site is specifically for pineneedle basketmakers. She also authored a very good instructional book that you can get there.

        Hope that answers your questions. We'd enjoy seeing pictures of the baskets you've made.

        Gloria
      • Becky Fonseca
        Welcome Toni! Another lurker here, that enjoys the conversations and the new photos. Last year I posted on Craigslist that I was wanting black walnuts; and I
        Message 3 of 5 , Jul 22, 2009
          Welcome Toni!
            Another lurker here, that enjoys the conversations and the new photos.
            Last year I posted on Craigslist that I was wanting black walnuts; and I received quite the response. Some pick-your-own farms offer black walnuts, do you have any friends that own walnut trees or have access? I've been fortunate enough to get mine free. I've found some folks don't do anything with them, and just want to get rid of them.
            I slice them myself with my scroll saw and discovered that a curve cut, rather than a straight cut gives a totally better look. I prefer the curvey cuts over the straight cut myself.
            Jeannie McFarland's 'Pine Needle Raffia Basketry' & 'Advanced Pattern Book' are also excellent self-teaching books that shows the teneriffe and the faggot stitches. Her website is www.basketsandbullets.com, she's easy to find on the 'net.
            I've used raffia; but prefer artificial sinew. I get mine from Baker Bead in Oregon. Do a search for artificial sinew, I recommend not to buy through Ebay; the spools are smaller and the deals aren't that good compared to buying the larger spools through a decent company. I buy no less than a 1/2 lb. spool at a time.
            Good luck and happy coiling!
            Becky
            N. Idaho
           
           
             

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          To: pineneedlebasketgroup@yahoogroups.com
          From: toni_s1950@...
          Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:07:02 +0000
          Subject: [pineneedlebasketgroup] learning

           
          Hello, I am very new to this awsome art form and would love to learn from y'all. I have made several baskets and a cup but i have MUCH to learn. A few questions if you please
          1 where do you get the walnut slices and are they expensive
          2 how do you achieve those "airy" spaces between rounds?
          3 how do you make thos airy centers?? I looks like they are made from the rafia somehow, NOT the cutout wood pieces... though Id like to know also do you make those yourself or can you buy them?
          4 What media "string" do you use for binding for those that are NOT made with rafia?

          I have 20 acres of loblolly pines here so I have that covered.. LOL
          I guess thats enough to start with. MUCH thanks in advance and I look forward to achieving just a bit of the awsome art I have seen here!
          Toni




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        • toni smith
          Thank you sooo much for all this wonderful information!! I REALLY appreciate it! Toni  It is not necessary for Eagles to be Crows (Sitting Bull)
          Message 4 of 5 , Jul 23, 2009
            Thank you sooo much for all this wonderful information!! I REALLY appreciate it!
            Toni
             
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            From: GMArcher <gmarcher@...>
            To: pineneedlebasketgroup@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 7:48:57 PM
            Subject: [pineneedlebasketgroup] Re: learning

            Toni,

            Welcome to the group. 

            The "airy" spaces you're refering to at the center of baskets and sometimes between coils are created by doing something called teneriffe on plastic or wire shapes, then stitching them into the basket as you coil the basket.  You can probably find some information on the internet if you search on teneriffe.  Also, the books by Jeanne McFarland listed in the links section of this group have lots of baskets with teneriffe shapes.

            If you go to the link to Judy Mallow's site, and click on supplies, you'll find black walnut slices and things other than raffia to use as thread.  She sells artificial sinew, upholstery thread, and waxed linen.  You can find other sources, but her site is specifically for pineneedle basketmakers.  She also authored a very good instructional book that you can get there.

            Hope that answers your questions.  We'd enjoy seeing pictures of the baskets you've made. 

            Gloria





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          • toni smith
            Thank you Becky, I an really very interested in the teneriffe. I also think I will try your idea on using the scroll saw!! I like to create my own stuff a lot
            Message 5 of 5 , Jul 23, 2009
              Thank you Becky,
              I an really very interested in the teneriffe. I also think I will try your idea on using the scroll saw!! I like to create my own stuff a lot more than buying. I have wood galore here as I have 20 acres and a LOT of Loblolly pines.. I am also going to try to grow my own gourds to use. I am into history/reenactments of the 1800s so the more I can "do myself" the better. I also do crochet, counted cross stitch, and weaving. I even am trying to spin some, so you see, I am ADDICTED to do it yourself!! LOL
              Thanks soo much for any and all help.
              yours truely, Toni
               
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              From: Becky Fonseca <bybecky@...>
              To: pineneedlebasketgroup@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 1:56:20 PM
              Subject: RE: [pineneedlebasketgroup] learning



              Welcome Toni!
                Another lurker here, that enjoys the conversations and the new photos.
                Last year I posted on Craigslist that I was wanting black walnuts; and I received quite the response. Some pick-your-own farms offer black walnuts, do you have any friends that own walnut trees or have access? I've been fortunate enough to get mine free. I've found some folks don't do anything with them, and just want to get rid of them.
                I slice them myself with my scroll saw and discovered that a curve cut, rather than a straight cut gives a totally better look. I prefer the curvey cuts over the straight cut myself.
                Jeannie McFarland's 'Pine Needle Raffia Basketry' & 'Advanced Pattern Book' are also excellent self-teaching books that shows the teneriffe and the faggot stitches. Her website is www.basketsandbullets.com, she's easy to find on the 'net.
                I've used raffia; but prefer artificial sinew. I get mine from Baker Bead in Oregon. Do a search for artificial sinew, I recommend not to buy through Ebay; the spools are smaller and the deals aren't that good compared to buying the larger spools through a decent company. I buy no less than a 1/2 lb. spool at a time.
                Good luck and happy coiling!
                Becky
                N. Idaho
               
               
                 

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              To: pineneedlebasketgroup@yahoogroups.com
              From: toni_s1950@...
              Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:07:02 +0000
              Subject: [pineneedlebasketgroup] learning

               
              Hello, I am very new to this awsome art form and would love to learn from y'all. I have made several baskets and a cup but i have MUCH to learn. A few questions if you please
              1 where do you get the walnut slices and are they expensive
              2 how do you achieve those "airy" spaces between rounds?
              3 how do you make thos airy centers?? I looks like they are made from the rafia somehow, NOT the cutout wood pieces... though Id like to know also do you make those yourself or can you buy them?
              4 What media "string" do you use for binding for those that are NOT made with rafia?

              I have 20 acres of loblolly pines here so I have that covered.. LOL
              I guess thats enough to start with. MUCH thanks in advance and I look forward to achieving just a bit of the awsome art I have seen here!
              Toni




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